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>> No.10256002

BCH is the real Bitcoin as set forth by Satoshi himself, but it’s backed almost entirely by scammers, so I don’t know what to think.

>> No.10256009

>>10255981
BTC did absolutely everything wrong.
BCH did wrong in putting up with bullshit for two years. Should have forked in 2015-2016 and nobody would even remember BTC.
Instead miners pussied out like the chink pusibois they are, and didn't act until it was too late.
Not it will take more than tx throughput to beat BTC. Smart contracts and ecosystem advancements are coming up, but it would have been a much easier battle.

>> No.10256013

biggerblocks

>> No.10256027

>>10256002
Implying blockstream and core aren't deceptive.

>> No.10256049
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10256049

Satoshi (CSW) is with Bitcoin (BCH). Bitcoin (BTC) is controlled by one for profit company (BlockStream) whereas Bitcoin (BCH) development is decentralized with multiple big teams. The only purpose of Bitcoin (BTC) is to make money for BlockStream (thus small blocks so that transactions are pushed to BlockStream propriety layers). Bitcoin (BCH) just aims to fill Satoshi's vision..

>> No.10256068

I hate that you have to pick a side rather than state the obvious.
BTC needs larger blocks AND second layer solutions

>> No.10256084

Can someone answer my question?

BTC got tamed by the swap with futures and shit.
When the flippening has happened bitcoin is free again.
I think it's very unlikely that the swamp will make a new futures for BCH that's why I think they try to prevent the flippening to let BTC tamed.

How many years will the flippening throw us back?

>> No.10256144

>who was is the wrong?

Does it fucking matter? History is written by the victor, in this case that is bitcoin.

Regardless, bigger blocks is objectively the inferior approach.

>> No.10256155

>>10256084
Your question doesn't make sense.

>> No.10256187

>>10256084
the people who "tamed" bitcoin are the same people who pumped it up

do you really think mega whales trust scamming fuckers like ver wright and wu?

bch is going nowhere

>> No.10256205

both are shit because bigger blocks are bad. core will survive because he is daddy coin.

>> No.10256230

bcash is objectively better tech, but i'll never invest in something produced by such a shady scammy team

>> No.10256255

>>10256230
You'll be forced to invest when it becomes the most valuable coin

>> No.10256257

>>10256230
What team? There is no shady team or are you speaking about Blockstream?

>> No.10256951

>>10255981
Dunno how do alts usually do when compared to bitcoin

>> No.10257335
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10257335

blockstream was created by early bitcoin developers. Bitcoin cash was created by early bitcoin investors. --see the difference?

bitcoin has a solid well known team of developers. bitcoin cash has one frenchy boi and solid well known team of shills. -- see the difference?

AXA venture capital has invested in blockstream (a company created by early bitcoin developers). SBI crypto has invested in bitcoin cash mining equipment and BCH/XRP exclusive exchange. -- see the difference?

every single "current" bitcoin developer is anti- bigger blocks (at least not yet). an offshore gambling mogul, a proven fraud professor, a mouth piece, a mining monopoly, and one former fallen-from-grace bitcoin developer support bigger blocks right now. -- see the difference?

>> No.10257363

bcash is just the chinks having a tantrum when the community made it clear they don't want any more chink shit in bitcoin.

literally indefensible.

>> No.10257385

bcash community is literally cancer.

>> No.10257397

>>10257335
>blockstream was created by early bitcoin developers
Blockstream was created by some of the later bitcoin developers, who kicked out the early bitcoin developers.
>BCH
early devs and early investors

>> No.10257401

>>10257335
>early bitcoin investors
most early adopters to bitcoin want nothing to do with bcash though. the only people that do, are ones with direct influence over it,because that's all bcash is, an attempt to get more control over the coin and take it away from the community.

if ver didn't think he had influene in bcash, he wouldn't go near it (hint: he doesn't, wu has it all). wright is just your average conman jumping on divisive topics trying to get support, just playing the political game.

wu is the only person that has anything to gain directly from bcash, which is why it (accidently) broke satoshi's difficulty algorithm so bitmain could abuse mining it for even more profit.

anyone that unironically thinks bcash has even a remote chance at getting close to bitcoin is completely and utterly chink'd

>> No.10257436

>>10257397
wow you've really got taken for a ride, huh?

bcash has nobody, and blockstream is literally irrelevent when it comes to bitcoin, as the community showed. the minute the chinks, or anybody else does something clearly not in bitcoin's interest, the community tells them to get fucked.

its only a matter of time before blockstream tries the same as the chinks, and yet bitcoin will forever keep on being bitcoin.

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10257452

>>10257436
>blockstream is literally irrelevent when it comes to bitcoin

>> No.10257505

>>10257436
>reddit spacing
>copy+paste shill posts from /r/bitcoin
> taken for a ride
No faggot, I've been mining this shit since 2013 and I've followed all the news this half a decade.
BTC is literally running on its former glory, which is fading away and moving into BCH. If the names and tickers were reversed, core would be dead. Normies still think BTC is a currency.
Bitcoin cash has Ver, Wu, Armstrong - literally the three biggest BTC entrepreneurs.
It also has Ayre, nChain and Jansens who are also amongst the richest billionaires in crypto.
Blockstream completely controls btc, and btc has next to no community. Only a greek fag who never bothered to buy bitcoin.

>> No.10257661

>>10257397
>Blockstream was created by some of the later bitcoin developers, who kicked out the early bitcoin developers.
This is False. I can give you a history lesson if you want. Gavin excluded himself from the repo back in 2014, he gave it to Wlad. He booted himself. you have no idea what you are talking about Junior. The current main core devs were all selected by Gavin. You are so fucking stupid my eyes hurt. just stfu now.

>early devs

Amaury Sechet was writing spyware for (((Facebook))) up until ta couple of years ago. You really are dumb.

>> No.10257708

>>10257505
>which is fading away and moving into BCH
this is false.
BCH market share has dropped 2% in the past two months. down to 4% from 6%. BTC market share has gained 7% in same time frame. You are a lying shill. you fucking disgust me. don't cry for help when you fucking kill yourself.

>> No.10257767

>>10256049
This 100%
It feels weird to know that CSW is Satoshi before everyone else. There's a huge opportunity to make money from this info, but I'm not quite sure how yet. The flippening will happen, the only questions are when will people realize the advantages BCH has over BTC, and when will the market stop being irrational

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10257809

“Just make the blocks bigger”

>> No.10257841

>>10257661
>Gavin excluded himself from the repo back in 2014, he gave it to Wlad
Gavin's rights were revoked after his post about Craig Wright under the excuse that he was "hacked". When it turned out he wasn't - nothing was restored.
>He booted himself
Thanks for introducing me to the newest levels of /r/bitcoin bullshittery
>The current main core devs were all selected by Gavin
Gavin selected Mike Hearn (mocked for his predictions in 2015, 100% accuracy in prediction turnout, kicked from the team), Jeff Garzik (another semi-big blocker) and a fat neckbeard whose selection Gavin named "one of the biggest mistakes of his life".
>Amaury Sechet
as if he's the only dev. You basically admitted Gavin was the first, he's in BCH now. Not as a dev, but he's still a researcher, and Graphene is being implemented by Bitcoin Unlimited (who do not exist according to /r/bitcoin, kek)

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>>10256049
Satohi is Carlos Matos. Bean Cash (BCH) is the real Bitcoin and will solve the oracle problem in the future.

>> No.10258283

>>10257767
Read "The Satoshi affair" yesterday.
Always been a big blocker but always thought CSW is a fraud. That book weirded me out for good...

>> No.10258304

>>10257505
shut up nigger

>> No.10258352

>>10258283
Interesting, I'll take a read

>> No.10258362

>>10257401
>wright is just your average conman

Funny how he lnows Bitcoin better than anyone else in the world. Last example would be Bitcoin script Turing completeness. Literally no one else had a fucking clue..

>> No.10258416

>>10258352
http://archive.is/kjuLi
full edition :]

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10258572

BTC will most likely die, can take a long time though.

>>10256009
it was tried:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin_XT
we're very lucky that this time more people got on board. BCH was the last shot to preserve bitcoin before the point of no return.

>> No.10258627

>>10257708
people are escaping into the safe haven that they think BTC is during the market crash, these people are "investors" that have no clue about what's actually going on. would have been absolutely astonishing if people didn't escape into the oldest crypto during hard times.

>> No.10258650

>>10258572
Bitcoin XT wasn't a fork but node software, completely different thing

>> No.10258666

>>10257767

Literally noone does their research. It's all out there. You can really tell if someone is a LARPer/late adopter when they try to mansplain CSW and the cryptography/security culture of the times--- hint, it's a lot more complicated to those guys than just "no key signing no Satoshi." Many actual cryptographers have said that Craig did not only the right but smart thing.

>> No.10258669

BTC is bottlenecking the base protocol so any layer built on top will still be fucked by the 1mb block limit

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10258676

>>10258650
wrong, it changed the block size limit. check this out:

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/89z483/ama_ask_mike_anything/dwup253/

>Miner: "We agree the block size should be raised and we agree Core is not going to do so."
>Me: "Great! So when will you start running XT?"

>> No.10258726

>>10258666
i think Craig was blackmailed into doing what he did. andresen did talk about how sad Craig was when he showed the proof. then the situation resolved (maybe he could kill the blackmailer or something) so Craig could go on and try to provide as shitty proof as possible so that people think he's a fraud and therefore he could go back to being anonymous Satoshi once again

until the truth is out there i just enjoy the mystery

>> No.10258836

>>10258676
It was node software, not a fork like BCH. For Bitcoin (BTC) there is just one node software (Bitcoin Core), for Bitcoin (BCH) there are many competing clients like Bitcoin ABC, Bitcoin Unlimited and Bitcoin XT. Funny fact, Bitcoin XT was actually overtaking Bitcoin Core until suddenly entire regions were Bitcoin XT nodes were licated were ddossed to death. It's basically a know fact that Crypto Judas Adam Back was behind the attack

>> No.10258860

They both kinda suck to be honest. Lightning network was supposed to revolutionize BTC but it barely works. BCH seems like a clone with a temporary bandaid. Why not just use LTC? I don't see any point to BCH.

>> No.10258962

>>10258860
>LTC
Founder sold his bags and no one Trusts this coin. I rather Pay with Vertcoin

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>>10258836
if XT accepted larger blocks than 1 MB how was it not a fork? these blocks would not be accepted as valid by non XT nodes and then the network would fork.

do you have some link about that Adam Back accusation? i assume it was never proven and just a most-likely-theory?

>> No.10259088

>>10256255
hahahahahahahahaha lmao. hint - it won't. do cashies actually think this? p.s. both bitcoin and bcash are garbage

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10259089

fuck blockstream, fuck axa, fuck bilderbergs, fuck digital currency group. gas them all.

>> No.10259105

>>10258627
bcash cultist coping mechanism #624
>engage

>> No.10259107

>>10257385

bcashers are unironically the flat earthers of crypto, they will believe anything

>> No.10259123

>>10259107
It sounds like you're describing the Bitcoin core community

>> No.10259146

>>10258666
It really is all out there, the only reason I know about it, since I just got into crypto this year, is because I was at the right place and the right time. Gotta see through the BS as well, but it's luck I even got into crypto in the first place.
Sometimes wasting your life on internet forums can really pay off. *Cough cough* looking at you LINK

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>>10258836
>what is Bitcoin Knots
>what is BTCD
>what is Bitcore
>what is Bcoin
>what is Gocoin
>what is Libbitcoin

I could go on. Just because most of the people (willingly) choose to run Core software, it doesn't mean there are many other several teams developing alterantive Bitcoin clients, which people are free to use.

You can go on and continue your useless shitposting while thinking it has impact on the fact you are holding, and will continue to hold, a shitcoin.

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10259259

>hurrdurr liquid sidechains
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEBi_iaCd1Y
"we're not going to develop for free forever"
fucking morons

>> No.10259328

>>10258362
>bitcoin Oracles
>no one else had a clue

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>>10257841
>according to /r/bitcoin
Holy shit. Imagine that... a place where they know what's going down with bitcoin. my mind is blown! It makes sense thogh... I mean, I would hope a place called "r/bitcoin" would know more about ... wait for it... bitcoin, than an Microsoft Paint tutorial board for autistic vacuum tubes does.

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>>10259387
>He thinks /r/bitcoin is not a cesspool of 2017 newfags. He's completely unaware that every early adopter is banned on there

>> No.10259461

>>10258962
LTC is actually accepted as payment. Who the fuck even knows about Vertcoin lol.

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10259493

they were all false

>> No.10259582

>>10255981
Hal Finney is Satoshi. He received the first bitcoin. If you created this new system of money, wouldn't you test it out on yourself. Plus with bitcoin, you could make new wallets every time you send a transaction. Craig Wright and Dave Kleiman were just early miners. Hal and Nick Szabo ftw/

>> No.10259882

Both. Would be better if it never happened.

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>>10259439
I wouldn't know the intimates that well... I honestly just visited reddit the first time a few months ago. I'm not going to front like an oldfag neither. I first visited 4chan like 9-10 years ago. saw it mentioned on consumption junction or encyclopedia dramatica. I just lurked a few time... but, mostly I spent time on ICMag learning how to grow ROLS/No Till organic cannabis. I've been into bitcoin ever since though. can't remember the date but, i bought my fist bitcoins for a donation to deep bass 9. this was before Demonoid went down the first time. naw man...

pic related: Cannabiogen's Peyote Purple grow in 100% not-till ROLS.

>> No.10259950

bcash is retarded
but bcore is even more retarded and (((kikestream)))

>> No.10260007

>>10259493
Did I hear "exit scam"?
http://exitscam.me/138