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>PhD in Chemical Engineering
>working in IT as a "Client Relations Engineer" which is just a glorified name for call centre support
>mfw have to lie to people that I NEETed for 7 years on disability instead of telling the truth

Don't fall for the STEM meme /biz/. Without connections or 145+ IQ, this is where it leads to.

>> No.10160805
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>Studied at a state school
>got my cpa
>making 6 figures now consulting
Lmaoing at the STEM fags who acted so superior

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>>10160805

Its rather ironic isn't it? My current manager graduated with an Arts and Philosophy degree. Thankfully he isn't a complete asshole

>> No.10160858

I didn't because I could never work in an office setting. I'd take working with dusty old alcoholics at a construction site over an office any day. At least I could be myself.

>> No.10160880

>>10160858
fucking delet this, i fell for this meme and all i want is an office job

>> No.10160918

>>10160880
Obviously it isn't a good fit for everyone. Some people fit in with the PC culture of an office. Some fit in with the more realistic crowd. Also if you're doing something like roofing then you have no one to blame but yourself. There's a reason they mostly hire criminals.

>> No.10160989

>>10160775
You owe it to your past self to push your future self higher. Keep looking for new opportunities, and don't sell yourself short.

t. chemical engineer

>> No.10161025

>>10160775
>got tism bucks from the guberment
>stay at home and play on computer all day
>hear about bitcorn while wagies were out working
>throw a few hundred at it in 2010
>now I'm set for life

>> No.10161129

Lol fellow chem eng grad. Got a first class masters and can't find an engineering role so work as a chemical operator.
Regret this meme degree

>> No.10161201

>>10160775

did you do semesters abroad, internships at good companies and shit? Otherwise it's your fault honestly. A students working for C students strikes again.

>> No.10161272

>>10161201
no OP but nobody tells you this shit until it's too late, or worse, you find out the hard way. A students are encouraged to make retarded life choices, whereas C students did the right thing from the start and fucked off doing shit they like. Maybe this is some sick punishment for us not actually using our brains for what matters most.

>> No.10161297

>>10160805
private or public accounting?

>> No.10161334

Yeah i didn't because i don't think im normie enough to have to go to college

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>>10161201
>did you do semesters abroad, internships at good companies and shit?

I applied to probably hundreds of internships (paid and unpaid) and some programmes abroad, but still I didn't get into any. I guess its just one of those superpowers people with 145+ IQ and 1000 friends on facebook have that gives them the edge

>> No.10161503

>>10161272

What - who should tell you? Didn't you think for yourself? No offense but this should be common sense for everyone. This is a globalized world, if you stay in one place, well get fucked

>>10161355

at least you tried. How is your university ranking?

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>>10161503
>at least you tried. How is your university ranking?

Top 20

Not that it really matters. People from shit tier universities are doing much better than me

>> No.10161570

>>10161272
Meh, college drop out
I feel naked with out a degree, something is missing. Maybe it is just the subconscious degree meme bugging me
But there are plenty of ppl who find careers to their degree and make the big buckaroos

I think luck of draw, and location plays a huge part obviously

>> No.10161617

>>10161567

american?

>> No.10161619

>ChemE masters
>hired 2 weeks after graduation in process r&d
heh

>> No.10161874

>>10161025
you're larping but for some people it must be real

>> No.10161946

>>10161874
I am pretty sure most people who got rich of btc in the old days were just junkies who forgot about their btc until they saw it again in the news.

fucking hilarious that those people got rich of their drug habit while brilliant people who had their shit together probably sold when it reached a few bucks.

>> No.10162019

>>10160775
PhD is where you failed
21 years of age I have a bachelors in chemical engineering and currently working for ExxonMobil solving hard as fuck problems and having responsibility of operation for major units in gigantic crude refineries around europe

>> No.10162113

>>10161946

This.

>uses bitcoin to buy drugs/steroids because he thinks it's 100% anonymous (lol)
>forgets 100 of them in a wallet somewhere
>sees the 10k bitcoin headlines in 2017-2018
>remembers he used to buy drugs with those!
>is now rich
>thinks he's some genius 150IQ visionary and starts bragging about it all over the internet and even IRL

>> No.10162151

>>10161946
This is how I made my money. I bought btc to buy some ketamine and chickened out.

>> No.10162221

>>10161503
>What - who should tell you? Didn't you think for yourself? No offense but this should be common sense for everyone. This is a globalized world, if you stay in one place, well get fucked
problem is good students are encouraged to keep going. Especially in STEM, profs always recommend a masters if you've got the grades. Shit students not so much, so they find better things to do.

>> No.10162272

>>10160775
>PhD in Chemical Engineering
Why the fuck aren't you working for oil companies or something?

Right now a lot of car companies are using AdBlue chemicals for diesel cars

This makes 0 sense.

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>>10161946
>junkies who forgot about their btc until they saw it again in the news.

>> No.10162294

>>10162285
bingo

>> No.10162300

>>10162285

Haha, yeeep.

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>>10162272
>Why the fuck aren't you working for oil companies or something?

>implying I didn't try

Considering that the average job application has hundreds if not thousands of people applying, its literally impossible to compete unless you have experience, which I do not have.

>then get experience you tard

Already explained this here >>10161355

>> No.10162334

>>10162323
Post resume, there's probably something wrong with it.

>> No.10162348

>>10162323
Apply as a Hispanic if you're white.

>> No.10162418

>>10160775
Got a bachelor in chemical engineering and hate that shit. Now working as a developer. You can learn the basics of computer science in a few months and get a job that's fun.

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>>10162334
>Post resume, there's probably something wrong with it.

Ah, the resume. Implying actual humans even bother with resumes anymore in the hiring process.
Implying I didn't get my resume checked by a professional and add the "correct" key words for the Applicant Tracking Systems to not reject my application in 0.25 milliseconds.

>> No.10162538

>>10162323
Maybe you can increase your soft skills?
For example in an interview, don't sit straight on with the interviewer, but sit at a 45 degree angle to them, then turn to face them. Subtle things like this make the interviewer think you are more interested in them.

I can give you some useful books on interview technique if you would like. I'm still baffled though. I also found that a linkedin account helps, even if the network is cancer. As a software developer I got introduced to so many jobs this way.

Also have you thought about solving issues for plebs? I feel as if a chemical engineer could fix some issues that I have like how to light a BBQ easily or something.

>> No.10162545

>>10160775
learn to make some pure af LSD and ur good.

>> No.10162597

>>10162418
More info please?
What kind fo developer are you?

>> No.10162608

>>10162545
he could also move to a weed state and start processing / verifying THC right?

>> No.10162638

>>10162608
sure, but then he wouldn't have anything to whine about, would he?

>> No.10162679

>>10160805
It's ok this doesn't actually happen

>> No.10162701

>>10162679
CPAs make good cash.

>> No.10162769

>>10162221
this is true
but after getting my bachelors I said FUCK school
at least for now

>> No.10162788

>>10162679
Yea ur mad, and yea its true. Big 4 then jumped to consulting. 6 figures, no travel. Stay satly

>> No.10162801

>>10162701
was talking about STEM

>> No.10162811

>>10160775
chemical engineering is probably the worst enigneering jobwise senpai, u don goofed

>> No.10162818

>>10162811
What would be the best? Electrical?

>> No.10162852

I'm finishing up a PhD in synthetic chemistry with an IQ of 145. My PI has worked with multiple Nobel Prize winners. How fucked am I?

>> No.10162853

With CPA you can also move to investment banking and equity research. CFA is another good route

>> No.10162875

>>10161129
Masters is what held you back. Nobody wants an over qualified recent graduate.

>chem eng graduate
>job after school

>> No.10162894

>>10162875
>Masters
In the UK, especially for CompSci people are taking masters students. It has become the norm following the 2008 recession.

>> No.10162938

>Bachelor of mechatronics engineering
>Got a job before I'd even finished uni
>Now 1.5 years after graduating I'm on $75k
>Guaranteed promotion in 6 months
>Working towards CPEng, should have it in two years

>> No.10162950

>>10162894
applies to engineering students as particularly with industries which have 'chartered' instituions which require masters for membership (longer route for bachelors incorprates writing an independent technical report). Leaves out a lot of bachelors because seniors don't want to work part-time supervising bachelor graduate in getting a chartered qualification

>> No.10162983

>>10160775

You should have done comp sci.

The joke is some of my engineering friends are way smarter than me, but I make 10x them.

>> No.10162984

>>10162818
I believe mechanical and civil have the highest growth rates and chemical/electrical are getting shit on, think I read that on federal labor statistics

>> No.10163036

>>10162984
>Civil
>Engineering
Electrical is the best, followed by mechanical. Just do what interests you though, you'll never get anywhere if you try to react to current market demands by starting a 4 year degree.

When I started studying everyone in my country thought we'd have a guaranteed job in automotive, but then the entire industry collapsed almost overnight.

>> No.10163049

>>10162983
>The joke is some of my engineering friends are way smarter than me, but I make 10x them.
Last place I worked (Web Developer) had the typical physics guy working as a developer. startups LOVE the shit out of physics memers.

>> No.10163093

>>10163036
yeah I could be wrong, was never interested or smart enough for engineering. Taking the accounting -> CPA path, I disgrace my famiry

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>>10162788
How did you jump?
Did you need connections?

>currently at big4
>not being promoted to manager
>no network, no social skills
Been applying to equity research jobs online, but no interviews so far

>> No.10163241

>>10163093
There's literally nothing wrong with accounting. It's one of the best degrees you can do imo, far better than meme shit like maths or history.

You can go pretty far with accounting, seems like half of the big boi businessmen I see have backgrounds in accounting (with the other half in law).

>> No.10163990

>>10160775
>>10161355
>>10161567
>>10162431
Based on your general tone,
>>10162538
>Maybe you can increase your soft skills?
this guy has it right.
You probably came across as a condescending person who believes that he is entitled to whatever thing he applies to. I'm sure you don't/didn't mean to come across that way, but the reality is that you have to give them something to like about you.

I think perhaps the best thing you can do is to humble yourself a bit and apply to assistant-type positions at a chemical company (i.e., something that your PhD is overqualified for), and try to use that to "break into" a higher position at the same company (i.e., something that actually matches your PhD).

It is never good to plant roots too long in a different specialty, unless you actually want to change fields and never return. The longer you stay in "human relations" "engineering," the more likely you will stay there.

Remember what excited you about chemical engineering. Hold onto that feeling and the things that excited you, and look for work that can help you recapture that feeling. But be humble about what someone else would be willing to bet on you until you've accumulated more experience.

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>>10163201
Bump

>tfw so many coworkers are doing secondments overseas in Europe, they'll get to travel Europe while there
>tfw jealous af
What do?