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/smg/ - Stock Market General (Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Sat Jun 30 17:22:12 2018 No.10098991 [Reply] [Original]

Meme magic and hivemind edition

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> How is it free?
Robinhood earns revenue by collecting interest on cash/securities and fees from their Robinhood Gold service

> When is it coming to my country?
The only "plans" are on an Australian and Chinese beta. Neither of which has gained much traction.

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Basic rundown on options:
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>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Sat Jun 30 17:23:33 2018 No.10099012 File: 34 KB, 434x341, 1530052766876.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First for GBR

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:28:09 2018 No.10099070 >>10099012 second for GBR

>>	2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 17:29:37 2018 No.10099080 File: 51 KB, 342x364, 1525870845151.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Alright, I really am going to get serious on this ML algorithm so I can't hardcore monitor this thread and this is probably my last post today. Cya guys

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:29:38 2018 No.10099082 File: 127 KB, 706x562, gold bull run.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10099012 Third for GBR

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:33:35 2018 No.10099121 >>10099080 >>10099082 YOU MESSED IT UP

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:39:39 2018 No.10099194 >>10099121 FUCK SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL

>>	grim !!tqKNtpU7P6O Sat Jun 30 17:41:46 2018 No.10099218 File: 9 KB, 217x123, alibabalogo2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WHAT AM I SUPPOSE TO DO WHEN THE MARKET IS CLOSED

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:45:14 2018 No.10099248 >>10099218 Enjoy the weekend. Take stress naps.

>>	grim !!tqKNtpU7P6O Sat Jun 30 17:46:16 2018 No.10099256 >>10099248 All my dreams are nightmares

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:47:04 2018 No.10099264 Bepsicola

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:54:51 2018 No.10099336 i wish i could stand t go outside right now. its 90+ where i am and humid as hell. no AC, and i got no ride to the beach. fuck

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:59:45 2018 No.10099376 >>10099248 Research. Prepare. Maybe you'll find something good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:08:02 2018 No.10099443 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ2oXD9DW2Q so y/n 5k per week?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:13:26 2018 No.10099488 >>10099376 this tho

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:17:32 2018 No.10099535 >>10099443 >set a goal of per week continous production by end of 2017 >june 2018 have to meet it for a single week Does it really even matter with TSLA stock anymore?

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Sat Jun 30 18:18:08 2018 No.10099542 >>10099376 Simply wall street is fun for finding random small caps, that's how I found CARV

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:37:47 2018 No.10099772 In other news, Elon Musk is partying in Spain right now.

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:39:54 2018 No.10099809

>>10099443
lol
of course not

>>10099535
not yet. but it will. bond traders always sniff this shit out. and they smell something for sure judging by their latest yield blowout

>>10099772
dudes gonna ENRON all his shareholders an most of his employees, and no one will see it coming because of his status as a cultural icon lol i cant wait

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:42:37 2018 No.10099852 >>10099809 I think they've made it 5k/week. Tesla is not exactly a fragile company, they're wayyyy away from going under

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:45:16 2018 No.10099891 File: 35 KB, 748x753, TSLA junk bonds.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10099852 lol tell that to the bondholders m8, not me

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:45:26 2018 No.10099895 File: 398 KB, 900x647, 1529138120627.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] When is Visa gonna stop going parabolic

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:46:04 2018 No.10099904 >>10099891 since when did bonds mean anything?

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:47:21 2018 No.10099918

So guys, The bond and tbill selloff at the end of friday was rather odd. I think it was China starting some shit. Monday is going to be a volatile trading day I think.

Banks are still in a correction and possibly a bear market soon, tech is ready to pop. Trump is doing his best to shitpost headfakes to keep the eyes off of what might be actually happening. By introducing random chaos into the markets we let off some overly stupid bull heads and weak hands from over pumping or overselling the market. We are in for a choppy Q3 as I think earnings will be weak this quarter.

If Trump can pull off a sector rotation before the markets tank he will have literally saved the economy for now.... We need to fed to tighten without popping the bubble to stop all of this bullshit going on in the economy right now. Emerging markets have already collapsed and we need to keep the malignancy from spreading to the US market. Hopefully to the EU instead.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:47:24 2018 No.10099919 >>10099904 lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:48:03 2018 No.10099927 >>10099919 you didn't answer my question. How are bonds an indicator of a company's health?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:50:52 2018 No.10099952 It's 2018 why are there only 40 market hours a week

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:51:48 2018 No.10099961 GBR $10 this week right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:52:34 2018 No.10099972 I'm really curious to see what happens on Monday.

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:54:11 2018 No.10100001

>>10099918
i honestly think it was the FED.
notes and bills were bleeding all day, and panicky bond traders have been pumping long bonds relentlessly cuz they think were gonna go into a recession. also, just the simple fact that the yields were pretty unattractive with bonds trading as high as theyve been. makes sense some would sell some off to try and ladder back in w higher yields in a month or so

but it doesnt make sense china would do it. they know thats exactly what our central bankers have been doing. i cant see them doing it to "help us out" (since FED has been dumping 30yrs anyways since months ago to normalize curve). you might be right though in the sense that it wasnt an "attack" necessarily, but more a way to sell off some of their dollars and get back to pumping their own market.

>>10099927
read a fucking book nigger. im not here to spoonfeed you on how fixed income securities work/relate to a companies health.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:58:23 2018 No.10100057 >>10099952 we'd hate for the millionaire traders' feet to get tired

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 19:06:53 2018 No.10100155 >>10100001 This might be true, the cash went from the usd/bonds to eur, nzd, aus and yen. Metals also look to be reversing soon as well. This will be an interesting week.

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 19:08:07 2018 No.10100166

>>10099918
another thing thats got me spooked is, while stocks and bonds BOTH went down at the same time on friday, this would normally mean that the dollar would pop up a little, as people buy more dollars for the holiday week next week. but not only did that not happen, but USD continued to slide all day (and the day before, when we were pumping somewhat) against all major currency pairs. so where are all these dollars going?

i thik you might be dead on that it was the chinese, but perhaps it was less an attack, and more a way to raise capital for themselves (ie bracing for their own market crash)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 19:09:09 2018 No.10100176 >>10100155 >This will be an interesting week. i definitely think so too senpai

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 19:11:57 2018 No.10100205 File: 330 KB, 714x915, log off.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] oc for monday

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 19:16:21 2018 No.10100241 >>10100205 They left the AI in charge while they are in jail. (((They))) dont know who they're messing with.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 19:27:35 2018 No.10100354 so what IS monday going to be like I'm very afraid

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 19:29:41 2018 No.10100378 File: 101 KB, 1028x1021, 1524179383453.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10100354 obviously its going to be a green day

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Sat Jun 30 19:34:05 2018 No.10100431 >>10100354 >>10100378 SPY doesn't matter, only GBR matters

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 19:36:13 2018 No.10100456 File: 117 KB, 1597x769, SRLN dump.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10100431 this might though check out this leveraged loan ETF that i found. what in the flying fuck does this mean? did some major corporation just default, or is about to?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 19:37:15 2018 No.10100465 >>10100456 bear in mind, this is going INTO the dividend. this isnt even the div dump yet

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Sat Jun 30 19:38:09 2018 No.10100474 >>10100456 If you want that with options check out JNK

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 19:38:50 2018 No.10100482 >>10100474 lol comfy i was short HYG for a week and a half. i covered on friday

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 19:40:02 2018 No.10100503 >>10100474 youre missing the point tho. why is this ETF full of high risk bank loans to corporations dumping going INTO its dividend?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 19:42:32 2018 No.10100539 File: 669 KB, 800x800, 1527260223212.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10100456 >>10100503 tinfoil hat tier

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 19:46:24 2018 No.10100587

>>10100539
explain
why is it happening? and why so soon after all these junk bonds are dumping? i see absolutely nowhere on this chart where it had a week this bad and THEN dumped. and it hardly ever does anything other than just buzzsaw back up after its div drop.

its showing the exact same signs as HYG did last weekend. i smell serious credit risk

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 19:48:29 2018 No.10100609 >>10100587 all bonds are bear market This is just conforming to its TA, really nothing shocking about it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 19:51:13 2018 No.10100654 >>10100503 Not at muh battle station, but was there a discount/nav spike?

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 19:55:24 2018 No.10100698

>>10100609
this isnt quite bonds though. this is high risk leveraged loans. if anything this should be the thing investors and bond traders would be flocking to. the yields should increase steadily throughout rate hikes. instead they look just like how junk bonds did, with no one looking to pick them up w such shit yields.

and where are all the yield chasers going? are they going for the new, almost 3% 10yrs? no. theyre going for the longterm treasuries

>>10100654
im sorry anon, im not sure how to look that up on my battle station.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 20:02:05 2018 No.10100763 File: 127 KB, 724x1200, DTOi2mDVwAEUW8v.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >its still only saturday >a whopping 36+ hours before I can trade muh stocks again the weekend is suffering

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 20:05:30 2018 No.10100803 >>10100763 Only 24 if you futures broski

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 20:05:54 2018 No.10100810 >>10100698 its still a bond and all these income tools will go down with rising rates Yield chasers are going to Coca Cola Stock unironically

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 20:05:59 2018 No.10100811

>>10100698
If the fund manager got hit with a massive sell off, the price to nav could’ve gone into a discount. I looked at the fund on spdr & the discount/premiums were only there for q1. Is uncommon for open ended etfs (not so much for closed end funds), but CAN happen if there is an major institutional sell off. Most likely the funds assets are starting to shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 20:07:07 2018 No.10100831 >>10100810 >>10100811 im gonna keep an eye on it for the next few weeks regardless.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 20:11:31 2018 No.10100890 >>10100831 Likewise... thanks for sharing. i’ve been watching shit credit for a while, but focus on consumer. Really like the stink of CACC, a subprime auto lender, for a massive turd fest in the near term & have been building a short.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 20:18:18 2018 No.10100955 >>10100205 Log of, Bogdanoff!

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 20:20:33 2018 No.10100980

>>10100890
>CACC, a subprime auto lender
hmmm
so whos giving these guys the money to give out these subprime loans? couldnt possibly be the large banks that all look ready to jump, could it?
(rhetorical question obviously)

>>10100803
>broski
oh shieet
div-sama
i didnt know you still posted here

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 20:25:49 2018 No.10101030 >>10099904 >bunds dont mean nuffin

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 20:29:36 2018 No.10101071 WHEN DO WE SELL GBR BROS

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 20:29:53 2018 No.10101076 File: 164 KB, 512x650, 1527258267781.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is it time to go all in on UPS unironically? They got fudded hard because "Amazon Speedy Van Delivery" This sell off cant last

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 20:29:56 2018 No.10101078 >took out all my student and auto loans at the bottom of fed interest rates >going to pay everything back with a net inflation-adjusted profit so this the power of quantitative easing

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 20:31:47 2018 No.10101100 >>10101078 what kind of student loan rates did you get, i refinanced mine down to 5.4% for 10 years

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 20:34:25 2018 No.10101129 HMNY will get pumped up to a dollar before the reverse split. Screencap this.

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 20:34:30 2018 No.10101132

>>10101076
>"Amazon Speedy Van Delivery"

That translates to 'we bought some shitty local courier service and have them delivering your stuff now'. In my experience with it the service is considerably worse than average UPS. I now have amazon deliver to post office as it forces them to use regular USPS instead of the van thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 20:34:33 2018 No.10101133 >>10101100 about $50k in loans at 3.5% I requested the maximum amount every semester even though I didn't need it and invested that a few years ago

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 20:35:48 2018 No.10101146 >>10101133 wtf when was this? my original rate was 6.8% in 2009

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 20:40:45 2018 No.10101219 >>10101146 around 2015-2016

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 20:47:59 2018 No.10101295 who /GBR/ here?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 21:18:24 2018 No.10101612 >>10100980 Not me. I refinanced my money with sofi for a really good rate. I have 300k in student loans though.. Shit sux man. Im hoping the company fails, the bubble pops and my loans dissapear somehow.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 21:22:13 2018 No.10101657 >>10101612 literally how

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 21:23:50 2018 No.10101678 >>10101612 Your loans will just go somewhere else m8. I've been on and off school for 10 years. Had an old one from 2008 disappear in 2012, and suddenly pop out of thin air a few months later being financed by Deutsche Bank

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 21:29:13 2018 No.10101722 >>10101612 >I have 300k in student loans though just keep changing your name and practice your various identitys signatures. a good one is to learn how to write w both hands. that way they cant track you off analyzing your writing. good luck

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 21:30:19 2018 No.10101729 File: 153 KB, 768x768, 1491430623938.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10101612 >I have 300k in student loans

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 21:36:30 2018 No.10101768 File: 232 KB, 733x597, HMNY_bagholders.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10101129 Well, time to load up on some more HMNY on Monday then!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 22:01:20 2018 No.10101993 File: 25 KB, 797x403, vix.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] interdasting. Whats with that oct-dec backwardation? The election?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 22:05:20 2018 No.10102018 File: 206 KB, 1100x1100, 1530052848963.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] AMD going back down to settle at $13.5 for next earnings.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 22:07:10 2018 No.10102033 >>10101295 >>10101071 Alot higher than it is now

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 22:08:16 2018 No.10102041 >>10101729 >>10101722 >>10101657 >>10101678 Dont feel too bad for me, my AGI is 500k per year as a result

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 22:11:16 2018 No.10102064

KEK
just found out some fucking weirdo kid that i knew growing up got #metoo'd
lol fuckin creeps gonna have to skip town

>>10102018
that seems more reasonable

>>10102041
>Dont feel too bad for me
>500k per year
gimme some and i promise i wont feel bad ever again

>>	Texas anon Sat Jun 30 22:20:12 2018 No.10102128 >>10101612 Wtf degree costs that much? >inb4 women’s studies

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 22:26:59 2018 No.10102187 >>10102128 medicine and law degrees.

2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 22:34:13 2018 No.10102251

>>10101678
>suddenly pop out of thin air a few months later being financed by Deutsche Bank
>Deutsche Bank, the pants on head retarded failing German bank that the federal reserve is trying to shove out of the US, bought student loans
>Deutsche Bank is buying student loans
>student loans confirmed for root cause of next recession
What other banks are doing student loans? Can I see which ones have A LOT? I want to know what to watch out for, like Bear Stearns

>>10100176
Absolutely.
>>10100354
I'm thinking that wicked bond sell off SHOULD mean stocks will pump, but stocks sold off too, but less so... people want to sit on cash rn

>>10101612
>300k
I got half a full ride to a state college that charged like 25k/year, but my parents covered the rest.
Didn't go to University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign though, which I was accepted to and charged like 70k/year... It had a much more solid program, but I probably still came out on top, but I'm still trying to be sure

>>10101133
>3.5%
I somehow got 3.39% APR on my auto loan
>>10101078
my dad always tells me that he makes larger than the minimum required payments on his loans, but I agree with what you said -- why not just invest it instead?

>>10101612
I think if the "bubble pops", the loans would just be sold off as assets to other banks or the bank would be acquired by another like Bear Stearns.
Your loan is worth money as an asset to that bank, they can at the very least sell it off while or in order to avoid being liquidated.

There's at least a few dozen people, but less than 200 IIRC, in the US that now have literally over a million dollars in student loans.
>>10102187
One of the guy's with a million bucks in student loans was a dentist or orthodontist that was reported on in WSJ

>>10102064
>KEK
>just found out some fucking weirdo kid that i knew growing up got #metoo'd
>lol fuckin creeps gonna have to skip town
Please tell me more.
This shit freaks me out.

>>	2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 22:35:48 2018 No.10102265 >>10102251 Just wanted to check in, probably going back off the grid now lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 22:40:37 2018 No.10102305 >>10102187 How much Jewish pussy gets thrown at you when you’re a doctor lawyer?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 22:52:12 2018 No.10102412 >>10102305 Rich Jews don't fuck Jewesses, they go for the shiksas

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 23:34:08 2018 No.10102729

so how do we "big short" australia?
>https://archive.is/j6ZX0
>http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-24/aussie-housing-market-is-four-times-the-size-of-economy (note this is last year too. im sure its worse now)

this shits gonna crash and burn the moment china jumps
also
wtf is an interest-only loan? how the fuck does that work? seems even more retarded than what we had here in 08

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 23:46:07 2018 No.10102828

>>10102128
I have a degree in medicine. Totally not worth it. Healthcare is completely fucked right now, also avoid teaching hospitals right now lest a new intern accidentally kill you. The good news is that you're still more likely to die of a medical error than if you were walking down the south side of chicago.

Medicine is as much voodoo witchcraft as science. All this bullshit gene therapy crap will not be to the bedside until 30 years from now, not to mention most of the common diseases are the result of people just being stupid and or lazy, not to mention the abundance of empty caloric intake. We teach a bunch of bullshit bigpharma sponsored therapies to doctors. Human health has been extended more by modern advances in engineering (like clean waters, sewers etc) than by advances in healthcare by a wide margin.

Healthcare is also the biggest example of wagging the dog I have ever seen. Doctors are basically data entry personel that have to follow guidelines by insurance companies, including the government. Most of what they say to do is based on special interest funded research and what they think its worth paying for.

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 23:46:54 2018 No.10102837

What the fuck

The exuberance got out of hand. Investors gorged on “interest-only loans” that required them to repay not even one cent of principal for up to five years. The frenzy for such loans peaked in June 2015, when they accounted for 46 percent of all new mortgages.

Now it’s time for those borrowers to start paying up: About A$360 billion ($266 billion) of those loans revert to interest and principal payments over the next three years, just as global borrowing costs are set increase.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 23:48:33 2018 No.10102846 >>10102837 Is there a ticker for this for me to short or buy puts on?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 23:50:55 2018 No.10102864 File: 54 KB, 500x500, 1528867255150.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10101612 >Im hoping the company fails, the bubble pops and my loans dissapear somehow. kek If the company fails, they will just sell your debt to someone else.

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Sun Jul 1 00:10:29 2018 No.10103026 Hey my negros, I'm paying a guy off fiverr to write about boomers on biz. Go roll for dubs or trips and I'll have him put it in the rap song >>10103019 >>10103019 >>10103019 >>10103019

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 00:12:39 2018 No.10103045 >>10103026 based, thanks bro

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 00:13:13 2018 No.10103050 >>10103026 bored tonight comfy?

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Sun Jul 1 00:14:41 2018 No.10103068 File: 7 KB, 245x250, 1490922514957.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10103050 Very

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 00:30:21 2018 No.10103221

>>10102828
well
good to know im not totally paranoid for attempting to avoid hospitals at all costs.

>>10102837
crazy innit?
fucking interest-only loans.
who the hell thought they could get away w that?

>>10102846
tryin to figure that out now lol
australias ETF is EWA. options seem liquid enough. im waiting for china to jump before thinking about a position tho

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 00:54:36 2018 No.10103459 LOL canada has imposed trade tariffs on the US i cant think of a way to long maple syrup though, so... long WOOD is there anything else we actually trade w canada for?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 00:57:00 2018 No.10103480 time to get comfy. post crash related clips. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEZB4taSEoA

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 01:00:34 2018 No.10103501

>>10102837
Wait until the Coalition government passes their big business tax legislation before you do anything.
I'm not expecting a crash for two reasons, (but I do advise you to take up bearish positions against Australia).
1. the Chinese property buyers only made a maximum 10% of the total market, and don't expect them to all start selling just because of values dropping: quite simply equity in Australia is worth more than keeping their money in Yuans.
What's more likely is a massive amount of defaults if the Chinese economy tanks, many of those Chinese purchases were backed by fraudulent asset declarations (xeroxs of a friend of a friend's Chinese collateral), and while that practice was stymied over a year ago which is the reason the housing market has been slowing down - assume that Chinese investors accounted for 10% of the market, fraudlent asset declarations would be what, like, a third?
So I don't expect a sudden crash.
2. The royal commission into the banking sector has already flagellated Aussie equities markets, the pressure on the bubble has already been released to an extent. If there was going to be a crash, it would have already happened.

But, here's some ongoing risk factors:
a. walking down a very swanky part of town last night I saw a lot of retail places for lease, not sure if this is just because it's EOFY
b. Chinese stockpiling on minerals/resources will means less exports for Australia 6 months from now.
c. obscenely low interest rates means RBA ('reserve bank of australia', the aussie fed) has nowhere to go if they need to increase money supply. Then again a strong USD always pushes down the AUD.

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 01:05:07 2018 No.10103535

>>10103459
Canada has a smaller economy than California, who do they think they are fucking with?

Also I was going through the events comming this week and a lot of economic data is comming out. Its probably going to be disappointing.... Not sure what to invest in, maybe the goldbugs are right.

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 01:13:45 2018 No.10103612
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>>10103535
im long silver right now. its way out of its range and the dollars been pulling back. plus silver is traditionally more volatile anyways and has been outperforming gold lately

plus i like the options better. the greeks are a lot less brutal than the gold ones

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 01:14:33 2018 No.10103615

I like Micron.
> Cute ticker, MU (sci notation for a micron)
> Makes memory chips, for SSDs and shit.
> P/E ratio about 5.
> Making money hand over fist.
> Doubters keeping it low.
All I own, really. I will not touch coins, some of you are seeing why. Coins don't make money, they're not a business, so "investment" makes no sense.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 01:22:20 2018 No.10103676 >>10103615 It almost feels like the assholes at Morgan Stanley and UBS downgrade MU on purpose just to get in on dips.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 01:31:34 2018 No.10103748 >>10098991 I don't like Kek because he's African.

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 02:00:27 2018 No.10103980
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>>10103615
EVERYTHING; absolutely every reason why MU hasn't gone to 100 dollars at such excellent growth
is because of FUCKING CHINA; 50% of revenue comes from China, they steal MU's tech,
they're going to crash the market eventually but I can't really predict the extent of which they'll fuck everything up and when it's happening

also how the fuck do you start a hedge-fund?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 02:02:19 2018 No.10103992 File: 9 KB, 220x229, images.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10103980 >50% of revenue comes from China >absolutely every reason why MU hasn't gone to 100 dollars at such excellent growth starts with "T"

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 02:35:12 2018 No.10104256 >>10103992 lol trump didnt pump the rest of tech to completely unreasonable heights. MUs main problem right now (as fundamentally, they have few) is that it trades alongside other much more overvalued stocks

2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sun Jul 1 03:55:37 2018 No.10104637
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>>10102412
Fact.
However, rich jews aren't doctor lawyers. Doctors and lawyers are broke as shit now thanks to their massive student loans.
But yeah, Mark Cuckerburg...
Jewesses act spoiled as fuck too. They know they can get a Jewish boy so easy, so they'll fuck over anybody they want and settle for nothing in relationships.
>t. dated a jewess

>>10102828
Healthcare is mega-fucked.
It's a combination of the insurance companies, logistics shits, pharmacists with government sponsored monopolies, and dealer brokers -- Cardinal Health, Express Scripts, Walgreens, CVS
Even the electronic medical record companies are absolutely fucked. I went to a hackathon about trying to fix that shit, and it's literally in the interests of the vendors of EMRs to not play nicely with each other and fucking integrate.

>>10103980
Trump needs to breath down China's neck and the tech industry more. I like where he was going with the latest trade war shit.
He better not cave or even slightly budge like he has with the border wall or immigration.
China has been a cheeky fucking cunt, and it's time for the husband to come home and beat the ever living SHIT out of his wife. Fuck China.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 04:42:33 2018 No.10104851 Do you use the same charts for stocks as crypto? I'm wondering if it's worthwhile mastering chart reading for coin trading

>>	reluctant kneepad girl Sun Jul 1 06:49:44 2018 No.10105510 >>10100763 Am reaching cuck point in suffering where not care if die anymore >_> Where was that bless anon!? Me aa server Kraken and harney side!

(Calculated Gamble) !!yNaZM+ufCLW Sun Jul 1 08:29:46 2018 No.10106073

>>10105510
I almost died three ago from some random bullshit that lasted a couple weeks. Keep at it. I don't how long your recovery would be, but you got people rotting for ya. Coming back from near death experiences tends to make everything easier afterwards.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 08:30:53 2018 No.10106080 File: 155 KB, 850x1177, sample_8de450f413fd90de9bffa5ede395e229.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10105510 What condition?

>>	(Calculated Gamble) !!yNaZM+ufCLW Sun Jul 1 08:30:57 2018 No.10106081 >>10106073 "Rooting", what a terrible typo.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 08:48:15 2018 No.10106185 >>10103026 >>10103068 i love that we're a family of autistic money frens with nothing to do on the weekend as we anxiously await open

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 09:04:37 2018 No.10106290 File: 1.90 MB, 350x197, 1530334176713.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10106185 Indeed

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 09:29:17 2018 No.10106455 >>10100431 Is this a /biz meme? I am honestly poor and would invest $1k on Monday. Don't let me down.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 09:33:46 2018 No.10106489 >>10101768 >HMNY_bagholders.jpg This is so accurate. I see myself in each of them. And I hate myself because of it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 10:08:00 2018 No.10106734 >>10105510 Add me IGN:Akashiii

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 10:17:54 2018 No.10106827 File: 265 KB, 900x1200, helw4xaadc711.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] they did it, lads. 5k model 3 per week

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 10:19:45 2018 No.10106840

>>10106827
where was this posted

are they going to announce sunday or not announce to fuck over all retail/slow shorts/puts?

This whole thing is so ridiculous that following twitter was the best way to fucking research this stock. Not any real earnings numbers or normal dd

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 10:22:21 2018 No.10106863 >>10106840 posted by an employee on twitter

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 10:24:30 2018 No.10106882

>>10106863
yep, just found it. Pretty much confirms the two other celebration tweets/instagrams that happened friday night.

Pretty sure the guy who went on a tour and tweeted #5000 made it obvious as fuck too. This shit is ridiculous though that following that stuff was the best material.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 10:26:08 2018 No.10106897 >>10106882 welcome to investing in 2018. I hope you don't have a short lel

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 10:29:57 2018 No.10106928

>>10106455
christ kid
just do your own research. you got till monday
dont just buy shit /biz/ tells you to. ill admit, im holding GBR, but its up 150% in a day, try to get in lower. better yet, take the time to figure out how to research companies you dont understand. do it w GBR if ya want. try and figure out for yourself why were bullish on it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 10:36:01 2018 No.10106976 File: 57 KB, 1474x332, tell me why i would buy this.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10106840 >Not any real earnings numbers or normal dd LOL you want their earnings numbers?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 10:52:54 2018 No.10107140 File: 118 KB, 1280x720, 1525189880805.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >woke up far too early this sunday When does Rite Aid open

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 10:53:28 2018 No.10107141 >Holding GBR after that close honestly are you just retarded or gambling? You know the market is 94% going to gap down monday, right? And chasing a penny stock?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 10:58:09 2018 No.10107190 File: 1.83 MB, 245x245, tumblr_o2eokpvOaz1rbw50xo4_250.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] market looks very sold going into july, tiny bear at best

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 10:59:11 2018 No.10107201 >>10107190 solid

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 11:00:30 2018 No.10107209 >>10107190 based on what? look at the monthly candles on the s&p dude. i've never been more certain we're going down

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 11:02:06 2018 No.10107222 >>10107209 >t. first year trader

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 11:02:14 2018 No.10107227 For recession strategies is it usually shorting the source of the cause and banks? I need a relatively simple recession strategy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 11:03:17 2018 No.10107235 >>10107227 Short tech

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 11:04:39 2018 No.10107245 >>10107227 short semis. they always get assblasted far harder than the market on the way down

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 11:04:43 2018 No.10107246 >>10107235 Which area of tech though. The technology itself is still improving would it be specific business models that no longer work in recession?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 11:08:09 2018 No.10107272 >>10107246 Companies with a high amount of debt like NFLX and TSLA

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 11:15:07 2018 No.10107343 >>10107245 semis are bottoming, look at SOX

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 11:21:17 2018 No.10107402

It would be funny if tsla accidentally timed the 5k thing with a general market crash.

I dont think rushing a production line is good for QC, I definitely wouldn't buy a tsla now after seeing this haphazard assembly. But ill make a few sheckles off the news at least.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 11:42:00 2018 No.10107596 >>10103459 We have plenty of strategic reserve production. https://www.maplesyrupworld.com/pages/Top-Regions-Producers-of-Maple-Syrup.html

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 11:56:07 2018 No.10107740 so the low credit score auto loan companies are reliant on repossessing and selling the used cars?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 12:08:54 2018 No.10107850 if yall feel like learning something https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHe0bXAIuk0

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 12:16:14 2018 No.10107924 >>10102729 this seems like an interesting lead, know any more? why would the chinese pull out from australia ever anyways? where else would their money go.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 12:28:38 2018 No.10108041 >>10107924 I'm too busy trying to figure out how to short California's public pension system to worry about Australia's housing market.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 12:33:07 2018 No.10108069 >>10108041 Go for shorting Illinois while you’re at it. All American pensions are fucked

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 12:35:45 2018 No.10108095 >>10102729 Chinese investors are pumping every real estate market they can get their hands on. Canada's real estate in some provinces as well as west coast US will implode as well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 12:35:56 2018 No.10108096 >>10107850 Anon, if you want to go more in depth there's a PDF version here https://www.valuewalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/ray_dalio__how_the_economic_machine_works__leveragings_and_deleveragings.pdf

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 12:37:04 2018 No.10108108 >>10108096 are you a Ray Dalio fan?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 12:39:40 2018 No.10108130 How are you guys pro capitalist when it's an obsolete economic system that will collapse in 20 years?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 12:40:54 2018 No.10108141 >>10108130 >How are you guys pro capitalist when it's an obsolete economic system that will collapse in 20 years? have you had enough gay sex today?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 12:41:51 2018 No.10108152 >>10108141 Can't have capitalism without wage labor. Automation is going to replace it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 12:46:53 2018 No.10108182 >>10108152 then we will figure that out in 20 years after we are already rolling in the dough from doing what we enjoy doing. GL kid

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 12:48:08 2018 No.10108191 >>10108152 capitalism still exists. It's just a distributed valuation system. >cars should cost $10 so set the price at $10 doesn't work. Capitalism as a system is fine.

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 12:48:22 2018 No.10108193

>>10107246
look for fuck huge P/Es
companies with shit tons of debt, trading FAR beyond their bookvalue/share. keep in mind the recent corporate tax cuts should hep these companies somewhat, but also remember that w rising FEDfunds, the cost of borrowing all that money is more expensive than it was last year.

the thing im watching for, is when are these large debtridden companies going to tip past the point where the tax cuts will be able to cover the difference in interest payments on the debt. keep an eye on companies that get credit downgrades as well (watch moodys rating) as this will cause bondholders to dump and further screw the underlying stock.

all this is why ive got a short eye on tech in partcular.

>>10107924
lets say china has a crash. im sure most of them (even the ones investing n foreign real-estate) have at least some of their money in their own markets. why wouldnt they w how bullish china has been? so the HSI crashes, and (assuming most of the big guys are on margins), now theyre all getting margin called at the same time. this will ROCKET the currently cheap yuan up (further lowering stock prices against stronger yuan), as everyone has to sell stock to cover their margin calls (crashing it even more).

now if these big money chinks are like the big money over here, theyre probably over-invested. if theres a difference thats needed to cover margin calls, that will have to come from somewhere. in australia, most of the rampant speculation has come from chinese new money investors passing them back and fort between each other. real-estate prices currently stay as high as they are cuz there are buyers. but real-estate is illiquid. if all chinks are trying to sell at once, the prices of all these houses goes down to th next available buyer. so they sell at another loss to cover their loss in their markets.

now remember that aussies economy is 1/4th the size of their housing market. get the picture?

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 12:48:58 2018 No.10108198
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Institutional money are sharply leaving market past months with no sight of slowing down this trend, reversal or at least platoeing - see red line in pic related
What is /smg/ consensus on the state of institutional money in market these days?

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 12:49:00 2018 No.10108200

>>10106827
>Musk wakes up from the floor of Tesla CFO's office for the 6th time this week
>pulls up his laptop e-mail
>"Good morning everyone. On Monday, all employees will be required to work minimum 12 hour shifts.
>...Supervisors are highly encouraged to get their hands dirty with their underlings. Our goal is to make 1,000 cars on Monday the last day of Q1, so that we can claim 5k per week."

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 12:49:36 2018 No.10108208 File: 12 KB, 258x245, 1472338508087.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10108152 >t. It was Her turn!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 12:50:07 2018 No.10108211 >>10108200 they already run 24/7, three shifts

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 12:51:15 2018 No.10108218 >>10108198 Guess they arent so "smart" anymore

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 12:53:40 2018 No.10108240 >>10107227 "Recession strategies" don't really work. The warning signs and writing on the wall will be prevalent for multiple years. Meanwhile you're getting fucked by a market that's still in a state of exuberance.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 12:54:48 2018 No.10108255 >>10108069 I know. It seems like we should be able to make money on something so obvious. Cities large and small are already flirting with bankruptcy over rising pension costs and it is only going to get worse.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 12:55:44 2018 No.10108260 >>10108240 Yeah Im not doing it right now but I want to know what move to make if I have to. Also just trying to understand the market more. Don't think reading about australian banks and sub prime auto loan companies is a bad thing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 12:56:11 2018 No.10108267 >>10108198 >>10108218 b-but... where are they going?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 12:56:17 2018 No.10108270 >>10108108 Yeah I drank the kool-aid on him pretty big time after reading the PDF version of Principles a few years back. That Pain + Reflection thing is one of the most profound thoughts I've ever heard.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 12:57:22 2018 No.10108282 >>10108267 back into the sp

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 12:59:00 2018 No.10108296 >>10108267 cash instruments/bonds

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:00:10 2018 No.10108309

>>10108130
no
we dont want to talk w you about about socialism. go to /pol/ for that.

>>10108095
indeed. the entire west coast of north america is going to get hammered by this. cali in particular is in a very precarious spot too considering how shit theyve been at running their state. not to mention, if a recession happens people will get laid off. and this is in a place where some people WITH jobs are homeless.

the advantage will be that people with money will be able to scoop up extremely valuable real-estate, but for rock bottom prices.

>>10108198
wew
i knew they were leaving, but didnt know the extent, nor the rate. absolutely fuck equities. outside of maybe consumer staples, since they all have enough cash flow to go decades without going under

>>10108255
my favorite short this year has been bonds. hi yield bonds, longterm treasuries etc. theyre all getting hammered by interest rates, and now theres also some possible credit risk involved. both of these things will cause bondholders to sell. combine that, with the yield curve being as flat as it is, and you have a very low yielding unattractive asset to hold onto, and one that is destined to go down as rates rise. the only bond buyers right now are people intending to hold to maturity

i also like bonds because they move very slowly. harder (but certainly not impossible, especially during intl crisis and times of panic in the market) to get totally crushed on your short than it is in equities. just be patient though, as bonds are very slow moving

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:00:12 2018 No.10108310 >>10108267 I don't know what the smart money is doing, but I am accumulating cash. It is better to miss the last 5% of a bull market than it is to participate in the first 20% of a bear market.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:01:20 2018 No.10108321 >>10108296 longterm bonds specifically which gain confirms that smart money has been n a panic since end of january

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:01:44 2018 No.10108328 >>10108310 I think that mentality is actually more bullish. If you look at trajectories and how people think I think it will delay any actual bear market. It seems stupid but it makes buying a better decision when that many people are hedging.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:02:00 2018 No.10108333 >>10108310 i'm just happy my holdings never really get affected by major indices

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:02:06 2018 No.10108334 So whats the play with TSLA? Close out short at market open then reopen short before they announce official numbers?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:02:51 2018 No.10108343 File: 2 KB, 53x58, 1997 Musk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10108334 TSLA is only going to go up.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:03:00 2018 No.10108345 cant wait for the SP to retest its high within a few months and all small specs get their minds blown

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:03:39 2018 No.10108355

>>10108321
*which again confirms

>>10108328
in the near term this is probably right. but look at that sudden flight right on the peak in january. and its never slowed down since. THIS is why every company was dumping after record ERs. the smart money has been selling every rally they could these past few months

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:03:46 2018 No.10108357 File: 35 KB, 580x624, our emoji.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 90% of you are just fucking gambling except with stocks instead of crypto, aren't you?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:04:27 2018 No.10108369 >>10108334 open shorts before consumers receive their cars and realize how many horrible defects they have

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:05:49 2018 No.10108382

>>10108343
I know and it makes me hate humanity. The company has abandoned everything that gave it an advantage to "meet" a production target in the most unsustainable way possible but the stock is going to soar because some people need idols to worship.

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:06:18 2018 No.10108384

>>10108357
its all gambling if you dont understand the underlying and dont manage risk. doesnt matter what you trade.

stocks and bonds are however, fucking real, and have realworld effects (and are likewise affected by real world things). crypto is more gambling in my opinion as it relies entirely on hype and news. very similar to how NFLX TSLA etc and many other tech companies got as overinflated as they are

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:06:34 2018 No.10108386 File: 45 KB, 702x672, 1480907834877.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10108357 >90% of you are just fucking gambling except with stocks instead of crypto, aren't you? umm... no....

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:08:13 2018 No.10108400 >>10108355 Yes, I think I agree with their sentiment but want to ride to peak. It could be much longer than people think.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:08:50 2018 No.10108406 File: 119 KB, 1280x1290, 20170424-4O1GHDF3vyAAcQfG8B1r.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10108384 >penny stocks aren't hype and news

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:09:54 2018 No.10108412 File: 67 KB, 800x790, 1525691272161.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10108386 let me guess, you've got a system and numbers and everything

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:10:28 2018 No.10108418 >>10108406 some of us trade big boy stocks like KO

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:11:11 2018 No.10108423

>>10108386
cryptards cant into risk management, dont have as many vehicles to hedge w, and theyre all retarded enough to think everything in every market is exactly the same as theirs.

i mean ffs they literally think the best you can do is 30% per annum

>>10108400
im not willing to take that risk personally i dont like riding ANYTHING all the way to the top, as i see THAT as gambling. tops are much harder to call than bottoms. theres other things to trade that have not been pumped relentlessly by dumb money for the past decade. im staying out of equities for now, w the exception of consumer staples, which i see as currently grossly undervalued

>>10108406
>whole market =/= pennystocks
seriously m8, go read a fucking book

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:13:10 2018 No.10108443

>>10108412
yes, i do. It has been consistent for more than 2 years.. so i'll stick to my "gambling" lol

>>10108418
>some of us trade big boy stocks like KO
gay. yeah lets wait all year for 5% sounds great even though stocks trading below 1bill can give you that return in 1 day.

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:13:11 2018 No.10108444

>>10108423
lol don't pretend that fundamentally this general or it's reddit equivalent wallstreetbets are any different from cryptofags except that their market is yours on steroids

there's a huge kneejerk reaction to established companies because it's for boomers, gotta trade XIV on margin !

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:13:17 2018 No.10108447

>>10108328
I lived through '08 and '09 and know what it feels like to wake up one day and realize your equities are down 50%. I also remember how good it felt to be sitting on a pile of cash to spend when the market reached bottom. I'm still holding the WFC and BAC shares I bought back then.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:14:14 2018 No.10108454 >>10108443 >my high risk high reward strategy works in bull markets, i'm a genius lol

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:15:15 2018 No.10108464 How much will markets drop when trump is impeached? How long will the bear market that follows last?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:15:16 2018 No.10108465 >>10108423 >30% per annum I actually enjoy my job, but if it gets that good one day, it would be better to quit from a purely financial perspective

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:16:36 2018 No.10108480

>>10108406
>>10108444
fact of the matter is, our market is more developed than yours. it has been through numerous crashes and bear markets over the years, and thus has all the tools you need in order to hedge/deal w downward moves. not to mention the way shares work is completely different to how coins work

what you guys trade is FAR closer to commodities than it is ANYTHING in the regular market. alt coins are rather similar to OTC memes, but fundamentally there is a MASSIVE difference between the equities/bonds market and what you do.

seriously, go look at a chart of WTI crude oil. it should seem very familiar to you from trading crypto. bart formations, futures manipulation etc...

equities are fundamentally different as theyre attached to companies that make (or lose) money. the more established companies move absolutely NOTHING like how crypto does because of these, and many other fundamental differences

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:17:22 2018 No.10108490 >>10108480 I'm not in crypto, retard.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:17:38 2018 No.10108494 >>10108465 you can do it m8. take 5% of your equity and start learning derivatives. that should give you the boost youre looking for (once you get the hang of it)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:17:42 2018 No.10108498 >>10108454 i don't trade things trading in any major indexes... i trade both the upside and the downside and profit from it so tell me how the bull market helps me when i trade on the downside? i'd really like to know.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:18:39 2018 No.10108515 >>10108490 if you werent a cryptard you would understand how different the markets are. i smell bullshit

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:18:41 2018 No.10108516 anyone ever read Reminiscences of a Stock Operator

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:22:48 2018 No.10108561 >>10108516 Googled it, then downloaded it. Prolly gonna read it over next week or 2.

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:23:23 2018 No.10108573

>>10108464
Market goes up if he’s impeached. pence will open up to all trade agreements dude, tariffs revert to zero and blue collar workers everywhere lose. But big firms will make huge gains, thanks to reduced taxes + reduced (read: zero) tariffs. Trump getting the boot is a huge win

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:23:44 2018 No.10108579 >>10108447 badass. thats where im trying to be in that situation. comfortably removed from the equities market, and able to just swoop in and pick up the cheapies

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:23:55 2018 No.10108581 My god >>10108464 You're a shit troll. Go do something with your life man! You could actually be working a side hustle, making money right now instead of mocking people to overcome your own inadequacies STOP RESPONDING TO THIS PIECE OF SHIT!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:25:06 2018 No.10108595 >>10108581 lol relax m8 i think we scared him off if not, theres always the filter option

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:30:03 2018 No.10108646

OHHH NONONO OHH NO OHHHHH NO NO NO

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/29/tesla-q2-production-and-delivery-numbers.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-model3-exclusive/exclusive-tesla-hits-model-3-manufacturing-milestone-hours-after-deadline-factory-sources-idUSKBN1JR1WX

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:32:02 2018 No.10108666 >>10108646 HE DIDNT MAKE IT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:32:33 2018 No.10108672

>>10108646
>https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-model3-exclusive/exclusive-tesla-hits-model-3-manufacturing-milestone-hours-after-deadline-factory-sources-idUSKBN1JR1WX

that fucking manipulation

>sources say

There is going to be so much manipulation and FUD until the official announcement now on both sides.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:33:10 2018 No.10108678 File: 35 KB, 127x137, smusk.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10108666 he did, you're just buttmad extrapolated 5k/week is still 5k/week t. morsk

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:34:14 2018 No.10108687 >>10108678 >after deadline HAHAHAHA YOU LOSE

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:35:30 2018 No.10108699 >>10108672 >>10108666 >>10108646 Who cares if he’s a couple hours late on the deadline? If he still hit production numbers then it’s fine right? I don’t know, I don’t have TSLA and kinda wish I did

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:38:00 2018 No.10108726 >>10108672 >There is going to be so much manipulation and FUD until the official announcement now on both sides. thats literally all that the underlying has going for it, so i cant blame them

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:38:58 2018 No.10108736 >>10108699 They worked 12 hours shifts 24/7 to hit the deadline. 12 hour shifts 24/7 are not maintainable.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:42:17 2018 No.10108768 >>10108736 yeah and it jacks up the overhead a LOT too completely unsustainable

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:44:02 2018 No.10108786 Gin me!

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:45:16 2018 No.10108803

>>10108672
It kinda makes sense, if he had hit it clean, he would have declared it openly to cause total chaos on monday. There will be less chaos if its declared during the report. He takes a bunch of little pictures because he can't declare it because if he said it outright it would be securities fraud.

His goal now seems to be to use FUD to trigger a short squeeze so the stock reaches a higher bottom on the announcement.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:46:19 2018 No.10108814 File: 14 KB, 251x242, 1477620350180.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10108443 >dont trade index or megacaps, they are gay and give less returns Literally "Why trade stocks instead of crypto" tier opinion

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:46:53 2018 No.10108820 >>10108803 Yep, let the 5k+ celebrations leak and run the market. Sentiment will be so positive he can't lose when they say 4900 or whatever.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:48:00 2018 No.10108833 >>10108768 24/7 production has less overhead tho >>10108820 anyone who complains about 4900 vs 5000 is a doofus

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:48:30 2018 No.10108841 >>10108814 because corporations are real and predictable and have been for 100+ years.

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 13:55:43 2018 No.10108916

>>10108833
>anyone who complains about 4900 vs 5000 is a doofus

Correct. The real issue should be the fact that a lot of the robotics and conveyors had to be torn out and regular people put in to build the cars. The fact that there isn't a second painting plant that should've been built in 2017. The fact that their average production will be 3k for another quarter and they will have to raise funds again with a Caa1 rating. Tesla lost its advantage of being able to cheaply make cars through automation. The ONLY thing the company has going for it is brand value.

People are idiots or financial institutions are being predatory or Musk manipulated them or all 3. The focus has shifted to something that doesn't mean a fucking thing. Luke warm and bad news are the same to me. I'm riding this shit to 0 or cutting my losses at 450.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:03:22 2018 No.10108977 >>10108841 99% of people cant become badass Pennystock traders Sure I own some LOCO and Deans food, even some LTBR but theres nothing more predictable than KO

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:05:42 2018 No.10109005 I bought 32 MU shares last week and now I am down $80. The Q2 revenue looked excellent so far. May it be overpriced?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:07:05 2018 No.10109015 >>10098991 Since this is an interactive Robinhood advert, do you mind me asking How the fuck do I use this platform without having US citizenship?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:07:29 2018 No.10109021 >>10109015 You can't

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:07:35 2018 No.10109022 >>10109015 you dont

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:08:17 2018 No.10109028 >>10109021 >>10109022 kek what a shit platform any cheapo alternatives?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:09:40 2018 No.10109040 >>10109028 read the OP I use fidelity but I wouldn't necessarily recommend it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:10:05 2018 No.10109046 >>10109015 all the original robinhood employees got scared off years ago, we just keep the format

>>	(Calculated Gamble) !!yNaZM+ufCLW Sun Jul 1 14:12:23 2018 No.10109064 >>10103480 I can use this for my Boomer clients, thank you.

>>	(Calculated Gamble) !!yNaZM+ufCLW Sun Jul 1 14:13:26 2018 No.10109075 >>10109064 Somehow tagged wrong video, Christ I'm a mess today.

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:14:54 2018 No.10109092

I agree with other anon about home prices in cali, Im really wanting the west coast to implode, I have enough capital to swoop cheap property.

I think the plan this week is to buy cheap slv calls, deep itm uvxy calls and look for value companies with super low beta or just sit cash. This is the best hedge vs a comming tech/bank pop.

I think the bear will leave ots cave forever

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:17:12 2018 No.10109117

so when the real estate market popped literally no one saw it coming. the difference here is there seems to be a majority of peruvian kite flying forum posters that believe its right around the corner. I've always heard that if people are fearful there will be a crash, there won't be one. what do you guys think?

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:19:00 2018 No.10109132
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>>10108833
>24/7 production has less overhead tho
how the fuck would that make any sense? youre taking their currrent ability to raise capital and projecting it into the future

face it, TSLAs ability to raise capital is getting less and less likely every passing month. im not even sure that they will be able to continue issuing bonds with such a shit credit rating, and im DAMN sure (since i fucking trade bonds and watch them daily), that almost NO serious bond traders will want to buy the bonds even if they DO issue them (as yield chasers are finally getting their yields back in MUCH safer instruments like treasuries and even consumers)

>>10108916
>they will have to raise funds again with a Caa1 rating
so much this.
sadly youre talking to an arrogant little shit who doesnt seem to even understand why TSLA not being able to issue more bonds would be a problem.

if i had that kind of capital on margins, id do the exact same thing. i mean, even if they somehow find buyers for their debt, if any number of things get cut (like govt subsidies), then it is completely and utterly over for TSLA. and im pretty sure, even his loyal fans will be upset when he has to fire half of his employees to make up the difference

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:20:18 2018 No.10109146 >>10109028 virgin -> degiro Chad -> InteractiveBrokers

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:23:18 2018 No.10109174 >>10109132 someone has a large short position lol. Go scream and pout on seekingalpha like a good boy. Tesla will be 450 by eoy

(Calculated Gamble) !!yNaZM+ufCLW Sun Jul 1 14:23:49 2018 No.10109178
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>>10109092
House prices may bottom out every once in a while but across less than a 10 year time span they are always increasing by like 3-10 percent, the cost of land in developed areas is invaluable. I hope you get your buy in soon and you don't just wait forever until a dip that is higher than current prices.

>>10109117
Plenty of people saw it coming, normies did not, but anyone with economic wherewithal could see the amount and scale of mortgage loans were going to implode on themselves.
Crashes happen for specific tractable reasons, the next one will most likely not be the same as the last.
My guess would be the amount of debt companies are allowed to hold while being unprofitable under the assumption that "one day they will be!" is going to fuck us over next.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:25:34 2018 No.10109196 >>10109117 crash is not even remotely on the table

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:27:28 2018 No.10109218

>>10109092
>deep itm uvxy calls
i like VXX better for my vol trades now
since its not 2x leveraged, but the underlying is well over twice that of UVXY, its more effective to just get an ITM or ATM one on that one, as there is less vega in the premium, as well as deltas that are less than half the size being able to outperform due to the quicker dollar moves.

>>10109174
anon, you are easily the most retarded person ITT. you willfully disregard every single sign that that company has SERIOUS troubles in the near term as well as the long term, and instead choose to trade off of press releases and the CEOs twitter stream.

you are the epitome of the retarded retail trader, and soon you will be the epitaph.

(Calculated Gamble) !!yNaZM+ufCLW Sun Jul 1 14:28:17 2018 No.10109225
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>>10109196
Not immediately, and not on the 2008 scale, but a recession could happen from various different factors in the next 6 years.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:28:30 2018 No.10109227 >>10109196 there should be some decent vol this week though. im gonna grab more consumers if i see any good dips.

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:30:12 2018 No.10109248
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>>10109225
well yeah 6 years sure

>>10109227
what I think will happen is consumers will on an uptrend but dip on every yield increase for bonds
Banks will rise. This is set in stone

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:30:22 2018 No.10109251 >>10109218 quite the opposite. And hey, I'm not the one losing oodles of money over irrational hatred of a car company :^)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:31:07 2018 No.10109258 >>10109225 You're right that it won't be a recession on a 2008 scale. It'll be even worse than The Great Depression

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:32:00 2018 No.10109271 Around how long does it take to get into this? I'm wondering if I should just hand someone else money to do this for me. I've got tons of time off and I work second shift so this would be a nice hobby since I have no want to interact with people.

>>	(Calculated Gamble) !!yNaZM+ufCLW Sun Jul 1 14:33:41 2018 No.10109289 >>10109258 Not without a comparable cause it won't. Recession are natural, depressions are not.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:39:06 2018 No.10109343 >>10109005 Capital is leaving the stock market, MU was targeted by China and had economic espionage done on them, and people are thinking DRAM prices will drop.

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:40:26 2018 No.10109351

>>10109248
that seems perfectly logical. ill be keeping an eye on bonds anyways, so ill look out for it

>>10109251
when did i say i was short? im trying to tell people who may or my not be invested in TSLA ITT that there is serious credit risk.
>I'm not the one losing oodles of money over irrational hatred of a car company
but you sure will be
either way, i think youre mistaking my "hatred" for the companies fundamentals w some sort of personal vendetta against elon.
i dont hate the guy, he seems alright desu (not as a CEO tho)
i just simply dont believe his company can continue to exist on brand recognition/loyalty alone.

>>10109271
read books
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1rq9DS_rEFIy8JrEeiDDqRhrviAy0Nnqj
watch the vids in the OP
watch these vids too
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain/core-finance/stock-and-bonds
and lurk here if you want to/need a specific question answered

never invest in something you dont understand

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:44:37 2018 No.10109386 >>10109271 you never stop learning..

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:51:06 2018 No.10109447

>>10109005
i was thinking about this earlier. everyone seems to think that MUs drastically lower P/E than most of its competitors indicates its an undervalued company.
but in the modern day, this isnt always the case. if it truly WAS undervalued, then especially with their continuing rise in EPS, you would think someone bigger would have bought a whole shit load of them. however, another thing that low P/E can indicate is that there is not much more potential for growth. this makes more sense as china pumps out (albeit shittier quality) semis like mad. worst korea too. bigger investors might see the much lower P/E as a red flag, signalling that MU will be outperformed by its competitors in the long term, as they all continue to grow, and MU stagnates.

have to see what the balance sheet tells us at the EoY though, as i dont have any insider info on them

all that being said, i certainly dont think that they are going under. as it is now, they PRINT money. and its not like semis are going anywhere

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:52:03 2018 No.10109455 >>10109386 Yea but there's a difference between the bottom of the curve and the I'm not going to lose everything tomorrow part of the curve. >>10109351 Thanks was going ask for a book, videos aren't my thing.

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:55:50 2018 No.10109506

>>10109271
what he said >>10109386

the thing with this stuff, is its like a black hole. the more you learn, the more you "know", but then going back and trying to apply these things, youll learn that not all of it is even applicable/useful in a practical sense.

its the experience aspect that is the most important part, but that simply takes time and devotion to it

>was going ask for a book, videos aren't my thing.
me neither desu senpai
much prefer reading it myself and taking notes. that way i can have a quick version of it that i can glance at for reference. sure you can do it w vids, but i hate the whole pause, take notes, pause, take notes dance

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:57:04 2018 No.10109519 File: 51 KB, 760x428, black.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10109506

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 14:58:29 2018 No.10109545 File: 159 KB, 1241x917, mines bigger.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10109519

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:03:14 2018 No.10109594 http://martinshkreli.com Shkreli blog post off the presses. He has an email that a friend prints out and turns into snail mail.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:03:18 2018 No.10109596 File: 124 KB, 980x571, 4f8c09214df499338c58406b36187698.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10109545 I want to be inside so bad

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:03:41 2018 No.10109601 >>10109447 > Micron Technology (MU) Shareholder Artemis Investment Management Llp Has Cut Stake by $35.98 Million May explain the certain dip from last week. I am not experienced and I fear to loose the little money I own. Would you suggest to sell?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:04:19 2018 No.10109608 >>10109594 FUCKING BASED THANK YOU

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:08:02 2018 No.10109652

>>10109596
>dat lensing tho
wew

>>10109601
not if youre substantially down imo
you could sell covered calls, buy protective puts etc. so long as the whole market doesnt get a rug pull, i think MU should be able to recover. like i said, their EPS is TOP notch compared to many of their competitors. and semis will be an industry regardless of the macroeconomic direction of the future. theyre used in everything electronics

>>10109594
dope. we should hit him up and see what he thinks of all this stuff. guy is sharp as a tack

it looks like the SOXX is bottoming out ayways desu

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:09:04 2018 No.10109666 >>10109601 what % are you down, if you dont mind me asking?

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:09:56 2018 No.10109670

>>10109601
Why are you even asking. If you think there is a risk then pull out. It's not like there aren't a million other places to put your money that sound safer. Are you looking to put the blame on others if it fails? Because then you might as well drop it now and keep your money.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:11:04 2018 No.10109682 File: 56 KB, 500x638, 1524540659027.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >There’s a reason Berkshire Hathaway, the consummate rollup/conglomerate (dirtiest words possible) bailed everyone out in 2008. WHAT DID SKRELI MEAN BY THIS BASEDDDDD

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:13:30 2018 No.10109708 Why bother trading? Why not just put it into vanguard or something?

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:15:36 2018 No.10109733
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>>10109670
because it looks like it will reverse ad he shouldnt sell the bottom

>>10109601
heres a chart. looks like MU has been outperforming and it looks like the downtrend is losing momentum. provided the whole market doesnt shit the bed, you should be able to grab more at this discount price (provided you didnt just all in w all ur cash), avg down on your cost, and hopefully get back up to or above B/E before it reaches its highs again.

but if youre scared, decide what % is an acceptable loss and set a stop loss on it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:22:18 2018 No.10109814 File: 2.00 MB, 200x200, whatever2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10106928 >dont just buy shit /biz/ tells you to. ill admit, im holding GBR

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:23:00 2018 No.10109827 How expensive do calls gap up in the morning? How much higher would I have to put a big to have a chance of getting one early?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:23:33 2018 No.10109834 >>10109814 dipshit i bought it because i looked at the 8k i didnt buy it cuz i like the look of big5s calves

>>	(Calculated Gamble) !!yNaZM+ufCLW Sun Jul 1 15:23:37 2018 No.10109835 File: 143 KB, 320x300, 1507790884138.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10109708 You know the answer to this

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:25:57 2018 No.10109865 >>10109834 and you're still holding?

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:28:49 2018 No.10109892

>>10109865
i have 2.5k realized from it already. the part i still have in is what i see as an acceptable risk. my average cost is still around 1.65/shr and it looks like whoever bought $4.8M of the companies preferred shares the other week is trying to get the price pumped up above $5 to attract more major investors.

youre goddamn right im still holding some

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:30:22 2018 No.10109911 honest question here (pls no bully): just receiving inheritance money right now, 200k so far with another 800k or so to come. Holding off in cash and waiting to buy the index (all I know how to do really) a good plan?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:30:40 2018 No.10109917 >>10109892 fuck me too, i've realized about 4k from it and i am fucking holding the rest for the moon! GBR can rip way fucking higher, like way fucking higher anyone that has never seen a low floater fly wouldn't understand

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:32:04 2018 No.10109933 >>10109917 yup and people love to talk shit on things when they see others makin money that they arent. i dont let it ruffle my feathers

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:32:27 2018 No.10109937 File: 48 KB, 502x432, 1472492653108.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10109911 >Holding off in cash and waiting to buy the index fag

reluctant kneepad girl Sun Jul 1 15:34:31 2018 No.10109962
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Any1 believe in ES_F pivot points 4 SPY opinions trading?

>>10106073
Oh man you guys so nice ;_;
Came here looking farm hate but everyone so nice 2me x.x

>>10106080
Recovery from some bone marrow/ leukemia??? They basically replaced my hips
Am 1 inch taller now!!!

>>10106734
Omg lol you actually did it
Well I'm in no condition 2 actually play right now or even sit at computer hut I will add when am back
I'll show you cow farm!
I'm / was like one of richest people on server

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Sun Jul 1 15:36:11 2018 No.10109984 >>10109594 Thank you!!!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:36:29 2018 No.10109986 >>10109962 sell me your oxymorphone

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:37:02 2018 No.10109990

>>10109911
the market ran up so high over the past year+, i would wait and see what happens in the next few months, if you have that much money you can afford to wait
if you have to put your money in something now i would recommend some high yield energy plays but even those are volatile af right now

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:37:38 2018 No.10109998

>>10109911
if you got like a million bucks comin ur way, definitely take the time and learn how fixed income securities work as well.

im anticipating higher vol coming soon, so you should definitely wait before throwing a large amount in, especially if you are new at this.

but at the very least, learn how to play more defensively if youre starting out w that kind of dosh. bonds are in a bear market now, but if you catch it when it turns, you could easily have a portion of your portfolio yielding quite a bit of money irrespective of the markets price action

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:38:41 2018 No.10110006 >>10109986 isnt that diluadid? i cant remember. that shits no good unless you bang it anyways, and fuck that. never again

reluctant kneepad girl Sun Jul 1 15:41:48 2018 No.10110041
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>>10108345
>he think people who bought here aren't going be bag holders 4 life
Kek
>>10108516
Read it
Think most of it made up

Really gets you hyped for trade tho

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:42:00 2018 No.10110042 Do people fuck up enough on shorting that brokers keep putting it out there? They can't be making money off of it if you successfully pull it off.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:42:27 2018 No.10110050 >>10109911 Yeah, just throw $1m around into whatever you want and is simplest. That's a good plan.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:42:44 2018 No.10110051 What's a good exit point for CMG?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:43:03 2018 No.10110054 File: 151 KB, 278x225, 1529889421580.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10110006 feels good man

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:43:34 2018 No.10110058 File: 29 KB, 720x720, 1482471004598.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] are stemfags like me the ultimate bagholders?

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Sun Jul 1 15:44:30 2018 No.10110074 >>10109911 Go all in on GBR plz, market price buy it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:45:05 2018 No.10110077 File: 374 KB, 434x1194, bullish2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10110041 me kek 3000 this year Will happen, and we're already 7 months in, so ye better get ready

>>	reluctant kneepad girl Sun Jul 1 15:46:21 2018 No.10110093 File: 136 KB, 849x1200, 8242d370f6e91117327816c1d2f988d6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10109986 Fentanyl patchED :DDDDDDDD

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:46:27 2018 No.10110094

>>10110042
successful shortselling should lower the broker/bank youre borrowing froms avg cost. i think they win either way. thats usually how these kinds of things work

>>10110054
it IS the cadillac of opiates i suppose

>>10110058
you talking like student loan bags? maybe. though i bet theres some more oversaturated workforces than STEM memes. i just cant think of anything off the top of my head

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:47:50 2018 No.10110111 >>10110093 lol i use to squeeze out the goop and rub it on cigarettes. dont do this tho. its super fucking dangerous

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:50:59 2018 No.10110146 >>10109835 I dont, please tell

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:52:14 2018 No.10110165 What happens when market opens?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:52:28 2018 No.10110169 File: 97 KB, 433x293, nap.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10110111 Fent, thats the good stuff >buy bth >get white fent powder Not complaining

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:52:40 2018 No.10110170 File: 1.87 MB, 2208x1242, 1507040938465.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10109962 Once ur ass recovers from being remodeled I'll be sure to go another round

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:53:16 2018 No.10110179
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>>10109251
There is no "irrational hatred" for a car company.

There is only irrational love for a company that has yet to prove itself in a hard fought and well established marketsector...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:53:48 2018 No.10110187 >>10110165 Probably gonna be +0.08% but then tommrow +1.25%

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:53:56 2018 No.10110190

>>10110094
i'm talking generally spending the best years of your life in grad school and postdocs and then making slightly more than a truck driver
i only have a small loan i took out to pay rent in nyc so i didn't need roommates, i had tuition paid and 30k stipend which is pretty standard for stem grad school

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:53:57 2018 No.10110191

So let me get this straight. The world bank can collapse the currency of 3rd world countries and profit on currency trade with prior information and propaganda but we can't make fake information go viral to do the same? Is it because no one can hold them accountable?

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:57:15 2018 No.10110226

>>10110146
if you arent completely retarded, overly emotional, or gambly as fuck with your moves, you should be able to outperform most banks in terms of RoI

banks basically just fuck around with your money, use it for whatever, and then tell you you made 4% this year

>>10110169
wew
be careful lad. that stuff nearly killed me a couple times. just remember how it keeps metabolizing for few hours. the "peak" is three hours in. if youre too fucked up after smoking it, that generally means youre toast. cant throw it up either

>>10110190
sounds like it could be a lot worse desu
but yea, this is kinda why i didnt bother w the whole college meme. youd have to have tremendous foresight as an adolescent to get into a field thats actually gonna have jobs 8-12 years down the road. not always easy to do

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:58:17 2018 No.10110235 >>10110191 >Is it because no one can hold them accountable? lol duh its the IMF

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:58:18 2018 No.10110237 >>10110191 yes, that's how the system tends to work.

(Calculated Gamble) !!yNaZM+ufCLW Sun Jul 1 15:59:08 2018 No.10110241

>>10109911
>>10109998
You mean annuities, and no a young man should not buy an annuity. I sell that shit. Get a paid up whole life policy on yourself through someone like Guardian. If you do get Guardian Whole life remember these terms "Disability" "Paid up additions" "Guaranteed Insurability" those are riders and additions, you want them. If you are healthy it makes a safe 4.5% return with untaxable gains with death benefit for family and shit. After that get a lawyer and a financial advisor. If you don't know what you are doing it would be a fucking shame if you wasted what was given to you. If you wanna learn the market and shit read, a lot, and don't use more than like 20k for your first year. The lawyer will draft your will and the advisor will direct you to specific investment assets. Its gonna cost you like 1.5k to sit down with these people and draft up plans but come on its like a mill.

>>10110146
Attempting to beat 4%. Some fail and some succeed several times over.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 15:59:23 2018 No.10110244 >>10110191 to solve it, youd have to have some sort of banking police force. but then... who would pay them?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:01:05 2018 No.10110265 >>10110226 I already told you Im literally Immortal

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:01:36 2018 No.10110270 two stocks I've been looking at lately, not interesting at the moment. NYSE:SC ASX:WBC

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:01:37 2018 No.10110271 File: 101 KB, 500x675, 1530462659112.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10098991 What's everyone's return so far in 2018?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:01:55 2018 No.10110272 File: 42 KB, 472x461, 1492603026900.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i really want the market to open already so i can buy more GBR

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:02:07 2018 No.10110273 >>10110244 This is why we had the banks broken up. I'm not sure if I should blame the republicans for passing it through both houses or Clinton for supporting it so why not just blame everybody.

>>	(Calculated Gamble) !!yNaZM+ufCLW Sun Jul 1 16:02:27 2018 No.10110278 >>10110271 You're 3D whore does not compel me to enter dialogue with you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:03:29 2018 No.10110292 >>10110271 about +3 per 8 in market

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:03:43 2018 No.10110294 >>10110271 +8% still beating the sp500 so therefore successful

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:04:33 2018 No.10110301 File: 218 KB, 1280x1084, 1471632634144.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10110271 exactly 1% since april due to MO taking a huge fucking shit

reluctant kneepad girl Sun Jul 1 16:04:53 2018 No.10110305
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>>10110077
It gonna happen in December... final pump b4 great bear season
SPY chart will look like BTC chart

>>10110111
You are crazy!
They treat this thing like lava

Scared to even touch the stuff they taped over it

Wtf point of smoking it anyways kek?
It like magical works the second touch skin

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:05:11 2018 No.10110307 >>10110273 well everyone from both parties has all of their money w the same large banks, so yes. blame everyone >>10110265 just take kratom or some shit instead m8 thats what i used to do whenever i felt like going on a shitmission like that

>>	(Calculated Gamble) !!yNaZM+ufCLW Sun Jul 1 16:07:28 2018 No.10110322 File: 180 KB, 850x1190, 1505428791562.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10110305 I've said to a hundred billion times, but midterms are magically immune. Can't happen till February.

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:07:50 2018 No.10110330

>>10110305
>You are crazy!
no i was a junky lol
>They treat this thing like lava
outside of what you are using it for right now, id argue they shouldnt prescribe it at all. its very deadly in even the smallest amounts
>Wtf point of smoking it anyways kek?
instant metabolization. you get literally the full effect in seconds. the quickest possible rate of absorption.

but again, this was years ago. i would never touch it ever again

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:09:50 2018 No.10110345
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>>10110307
>just do kratom
come on teh profit, who do you think youre dealing with here. also I havent done opis in like 7 months, Cycles...

>>10110305
The pain you feel in your hip is no match for the pain you feel when your shorts gets Liquified

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:11:40 2018 No.10110359 >>10110345 i was never able to do the cycles desu (though id always convince myself was doing gr8 lol) it always caught up w me. every single fucking time. just be careful

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:16:52 2018 No.10110401 File: 1.99 MB, 897x1166, 1516497641128.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] really counting on that silver gap up though 2 more hours

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:17:19 2018 No.10110406 24/7 production is a meme night shift has like 50% the productivity of day shift and they always fuck things up and let day shift clean up their mess

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:23:11 2018 No.10110469 >>10109990 <3

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Sun Jul 1 16:26:03 2018 No.10110509 >>10110278 Absolutely based >>10110406 I agree, studies show significant damage to workers health and productivity during grave yard shifts If anyone didn't read Martin's blog post, he said he likes GBT, SELB, ALXN

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:26:17 2018 No.10110514

>>10110406
I'll agree with this except first shift is all the new retarded people, seconds shift is the vets who are looking after kids in the day or just run life that way and 3rd shift has no supervision. So like 70% productivity on 1st since they mess up alot and 2nd has to clean up after them so even if they're the fastest they never get a chance to show it. Or at least that's how it is where I am. I'm 3rd shift. We don't even set up until an hour after our shift starts and lots of people crawl off and take naps. I only work because it too boring not to. It's not like anyone would notice the difference.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:28:20 2018 No.10110540 File: 135 KB, 1254x588, Screen Shot 2018-07-01 at 2.28.11 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1013519243030253570

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:29:23 2018 No.10110553 File: 123 KB, 664x1049, DhC5ehaVQAAMLfO.jpg-large.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10110540 internal email to employees from Elon stormy in shortsville :)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:30:48 2018 No.10110570 >>10110406 >24/7 production is a meme Oh so why can the Germans do it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAwRbO37K80

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Sun Jul 1 16:33:20 2018 No.10110604 >>10110570 Just because you can doesn't mean you should. t. Past graveyard worker

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:33:26 2018 No.10110606 Im pretty sure Tesla-amd poster was musk himself

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:33:50 2018 No.10110611
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>>10110271
12%
I was up 22% and dropped fucking 10% during June.
Fuck my life.

I have to admit that I am a brainlet and most of my gains and losses were due to having a way to high weight in IQ though.

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:34:03 2018 No.10110616

>>10110509
The health thing is only if you don't set up your day properly. Lots of people just sleep when they want which is bad. >>10110514
I'd like to add a comparison, back when I was new and worked 2nd because I was halfway decent and better then alot of vets(because they're lazy assholes) I finished 2/3 of a project myself as a welder when there were 2 people on first and 1 on 3rd. I would come in and find 2 feet of weld, or 6 bead around 4 inches each, done in the time I was gone. Production itself is a meme, most people simply don't work. Hell I've done in one night what the guy on 3rd did in 3 this week.
>>10110570
It's work ethic or boredom. I work because its too boring not to. Germans are know for being hardworking, or at least that's what's said.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:34:14 2018 No.10110618 >>10110570 because people buy their overpriced, overrated, scandal-inducing cars you're probably some narcissistic german who conflates one company with an entire nation

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:36:12 2018 No.10110638 >>10110606 >https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1013519243030253570 :^)

>>	(Calculated Gamble) !!yNaZM+ufCLW Sun Jul 1 16:39:30 2018 No.10110675 File: 1.71 MB, 850x1303, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10110611 You mean not enough. Hold my child.

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Sun Jul 1 16:39:32 2018 No.10110677 >>10110638 Kek, I just got 100 ETH from Elon!

reluctant kneepad girl Sun Jul 1 16:41:28 2018 No.10110708
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>>10110322
Demos gonna crash the econmommy to deny repos votes!

>>10110330
>instant metabolization. you get literally the full effect in seconds. the quickest possible rate of absorption.
...
So what does one even do when painkillers out?
Am can't even think same thought fir more 2 seconds

>>10110345
>fresh squeezed kneepad girl
Been learning options ALL YEAR for that moment

It will be most glorious SPY put ever
Even large specs will blush

Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:43:05 2018 No.10110722
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>>10110604
>>10110616
>>10110618
It requires a disciplined, organized society to enable manufacturing innovation.
Just take TSLA's tent factories for instance. This is the stone age of auto manufacturing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:43:58 2018 No.10110732 >>10110722 where are the toilets

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:45:00 2018 No.10110743 >>10110732 Propably the tent at the left side, next to the manual line. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=91&v=HFB-l52Ag2Q

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:45:07 2018 No.10110745 >>10110732 There is a black on and a white one you can choose from on the left edge of the picture

>>	(Calculated Gamble) !!yNaZM+ufCLW Sun Jul 1 16:45:29 2018 No.10110749 File: 60 KB, 400x368, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10110708 Let the fucking commies try.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:45:42 2018 No.10110754 File: 814 KB, 2048x1582, merlin_140495457_5001c425-75ce-4a67-8341-f87be51c0f98-superJumbo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10110732 NYT had pics of the inside

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:45:49 2018 No.10110756 >>10110675 yeah, I am still HODLing some

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Sun Jul 1 16:46:48 2018 No.10110763 >>10110722 >disrupting basic human behavior for profit and productivity The Unabomber was right

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:49:45 2018 No.10110781 >>10110754 not seeing any toilets, also why are they all wearing hats

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:52:44 2018 No.10110807 File: 577 KB, 1047x1440, 1486538042155.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10110708 wherever you place your short will become the new support line that is the life of the small spec

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 16:53:03 2018 No.10110812 >>10110781 Seems like their uniform.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 17:00:58 2018 No.10110907 >>10110763 He thought the world would become overpopulated. He didn't foresee declining birth rates in the civilized countries. He thought technology couldn't solve mankind's problems. I think he'll be proved wrong too.

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Sun Jul 1 17:06:06 2018 No.10110964 >>10110907 Not really the part I was referencing, more like people becoming slaves to the tech economy that they themselves had created. Obviously he wasn't right about everything, but he makes some good points

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 17:06:09 2018 No.10110966 >>10110271 i just joined the market not long ago. the monday before the fed said they were raising interest rates, and trump stating he was gonna start putting tarrifs on shit. so not to hot at the moment. i feel it'll turn around though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 17:07:06 2018 No.10110975 File: 33 KB, 553x386, IMG_20180701_230544.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10108198 In case you are not yet tired from doomsday charts

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 17:10:18 2018 No.10111014 >>10110975 >2014 you should probably update that chart

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 17:19:28 2018 No.10111122 cant wait for that new thread comfy

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 17:23:37 2018 No.10111177 >>10109911 If you don't know what you are doing, call Vanguard, tell them you have $1M to invest, and that you want to partner with a CFP. You need to come up with a plan to average your way into the market over time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 17:33:14 2018 No.10111272 File: 66 KB, 923x943, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] r8 my portfolio

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