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>>9768901
i know this feeling, challenge yourself and do thins that scare you everyday is a solution

>>9768901
>wat do?
get into gunz, buy a dogger, get into blondes

>>9768901
You need hobbies. Try hiking/camping.

>>9768906
like what? this is a pretty generic answer, like something i'd expect a meme tv show host to say

>>9768908
a dog could be nice

>>9768920
like, go travel to china, try skydiving, try to run a marathon, try to get ripped etc

>>9768901
heroin

>>9768932
i guess. thanks anon

>>9768914
pretty good idea i used to like hiking when i was a lad

>>9768914
This. Hiking/hunting/camping are a great way to "go back to the basics" and feel the relationship with the land we all once had but have abandoned in recent decades.

Also, start working out. Don't become a /fit/ gym rat, try to find something cooler and more interesting like combat sports (not martial arts).

>>9768960
What's a cool combat sport that isn't martial arts?

I remember I was in the same position until I stumbled on my purpose in life.
To this day I can still feel it, its like a fire in your chest that burns. It burns and burns until you cant sit down or do anything other than what you have to do, what you need to do.
Its unlike anything you have ever felt, the best sex or high doesn't even come close.
I had to travel far and wide for 26yrs before I found my thing.
Get out there op, to the obscure and vague parts of the world that you never saw yourself in.
You will still come to /biz/ to shitpost but that droning emptiness wont be there anymore

>>9768985
Good advice, any advice on countries that are worth a visit?

>>9768967
I personally recommend krav maga. it's the most used defense mechanism (not a martial art) used to choreograph fight scenes in movies. Its really fun, desu.

>>9768985
this sounds euphoric as fuck. how do i start?

>>9768985
whats your purpose fren?

>>9769017
Is krav maga a meme? or is it legit?

>>9768901
You have to work on being interesting, anon, it's not just going to come to you when you have the time and money

>>9769062
useless is popper word for it

>>9769007
Australia Mongolia Japan Alaska Antarctica Nepal
Stay as far away from the travel meme places and go where you never usually would of gone. What your looking for can only be found through as much exposure as possible

>>9768901

>>9768985
Motherfucker what meaning did you find? how could post this without the specifics?

>>9769062
its legit, honestly. It's fun af,and practical. No art aspect to it,it's meant to work. The goal of krav maga is to inflict the most pain/hits with the least moves.

It works well in case someone ever jumps on you/streetfights. It's no wonder why so many scenes are choreographed using krav maga desu

>>9768901
take SARMs and go to the gym. chad in 2 months

>>9769062
Jiu jitsu is objectively better. Find a Gracie academy and not a sport school though.

>>9768967
why? just do muay thai. 99% of the population can't fight for shit.

>>9768945
Show bobs sir

>>9769125
I disagree desu. It real actual fights krav maga is better. Jiu Jitsu is better for competitions.

Street fights don't usually end up in the floor, it's unrealistic to want to use jiu jitsu for real life situations.

krav maga does implemet some elements of jiu jitsu, so you get some of that too in a more practical package.

Jiu Jitsu is great if you wanna compete tho

>>9769018
I did the same, ive been all around the world, south east asia is nice but crowded with richy germans and pussy french or ugly UK whales. Go to remote countries..ive loved china (worked there as a skiing instructor), its huge! Amazing nature.. buy a bike and ride vietnam like lorenzo lamas - i did. Outstanding.. u can do work and travel in nz. Funny fact that india is so good..despite the typical pajeet but once u r there its different than biz.. ask me anything. Happy to help

>>9769062

Its a meme. If you care about self defence carry a weapon. Krav is pure bullshit.

Good combat sports: boxing, muay thai, judo, Brazilian jiu-jitsu, kyokushin karate, wrestling.

There are a few others such as Sanda but you won't find legit ones near you.

>>9768901
Eat one cannabis edible.

>>9769018
book a ticket far away but for the love of God like I said above stay away from the travel meme and all the things associated with it. No Instagram pics or duckface selfies or euro-trash hookups. Go see Everest, stand in the ruins of the old khemer empire see the cherry blossoms for the first time in Japan, stand ontop of the Japanese alps when its snowing. Just break the mould set in your mind
For me mountains always did it, it changes something in me, its like it charges me and that fire that stops me giving into despair.
Ironically I've done all the country's above for next to no cost if you do it right and stay away from the hot spots.

>>9769166
Fren you get it

>>9769166
I'm planning a trip to vietnam, it's doable by bike? any tips?

>>9769104
second I post something personal fren is the second it gets shit on left right and centre and I lose it
sry

>>9769164
Its unrealistic to want to use martial arts for self defence at all.

I'm a purple belt in bjj, multiple titles muay thai and have dabbles in judo, kyokushin, boxing. Guess how many times ive been forced to defend myself in that time?
0.
Want to know something even funnier? A light person who spends 10 years training in krav/boxing/whatever will usually lose a fight to a stronger untrained aggressor. I have seen professional fighters get ragdolled in training by buff untrained dudes who are just bigger.

Training self martial arts for self defence is like taking weekly classes on punching sharks. Its pointless, if you are genuinely terrified of sharks don't go in the water or take a spear gun with you.

>>9769243
Krav Maga is not a martial art, its a defense mechanism. It was created by the jewish defense forces and they teach it to every soldier. If it werent effective they wouldn't teach it.

I agree with you, martial arts aren't meant to be used in real case scenarios (I've done ninjutsu for example and the whole "art" aspect can slow down things in a real fight) that's why Krav Maga is better for irl cases.

>>9768960
>>9768967
Stay away from krav maga, kung fu, kitchen karate, tai chi, wing chun and other bullshit. Full contact combat sports are the way to go, everything else is just dancing around in fancy clothes while giving your money to some pseudo 'master' who claims to possess Doctor Strange powers.

Boxing and kickboxing are a great way to start. Muay thai is pretty much the most well rounded combat sport there is - you got punches, kicks, knees, elbows and even clinch work, combined with a pretty harsh strength/endurance training. I recommend you go through a few months of boxing/kickboxing first before you dive into muay thai.

Choose your first combat sport gym carefully - you need a place where your sparring partners will help you out and not go full nelson on you cause of low self-esteem. Make sure your trainer/coach has some good credentials and experience competing in the respective sport.

Also, avoid 'learning' any martial disciplines or combat techniques from the internet, at least until you're able to tell a bad advice from a good one.

t. anon who practiced martial arts (shotokan and kyokushin karate, taekwondo, aikido) as a kid and boxing and muay thai as a grown up.

>>9769331
Yes, and get kicked in the head all day to get early dementia. Have fun.

>>9769306
It serves the same function that boot camp and basic unarmed combat training does for the US soldiers. Hyper aggression with some basic legit techniques taken from other martial arts.

I cross train with a few krav guys who are bouncers. They come along and do muay thai as well because most thai boxers train and spar at a much higher level and you are only as good as the people you compete with. Trust me its not some secret recipe for badass, its either a decent krav place with about same standard as an mma school or a scam krav place teaching 'teh deadly'. At least in Australia vast majority are the later.

Its not the worst martial art ( i reserve that for ninjitsu, wing chun and aikido).

>>9769164
Krav maga is one of those martial arts where your sparring partner has to be passive or assist you in some so that you can successfully perform a technique. You don't need that because it gives you an unrealistic amount of confidence and provides no actual self defense or combat skills.

If don't believe what i say, just google some krav maga videos - their techniques always follow the same scheme:

- an opponent attacks you with a single punch, kick or holds a weapon in front of or behind you
- you perform the technique and neutralize him while he virtually cooperates
- the opponent is neutralized and the technique is over

>>9768901
I perceive this feel, stream your self and do things that frenzy you ordinarily is the answer.

>>9769242
I mean does it involve knee pads? You are going to let /biz shame the love you have for your knob collection you polish daily? What kind of a man loses interest in a passion because others don't like it? Just fucking tell me. Lol

>>9769361
Pretty much why i switched to Brazilian jiu-jitsu mid 20s. Striking arts really start to take their toll on your body, I'm carrying so many injuries still.

Not something a twice a week newb needs to worry about though, you won't be getting kicked in the head.

>>9769361
That's complete bullshit propagated by those who have zero experience with combat sports.

Practicing a combat sport as a hobby and a way to keep fit is actually way safer than riding the bus to work. You need to get hit hard, daily in the course of years, i.e. be a competitor in the sport in order to get dementia, Parkinson's, etc. No sparring partner would unload his full arsenal and power on you when you're a beginner. There is of course the odd Charlie Zelenoff who thinks he's there to kill people, but such guys are a very rare occurrence because they're just bad for the gym's business - they chase clients away. Thus, they're pretty much asked to leave and never come back should they allow themselves to go berserk on a newbie.

Speaking out of experience, worst things you could get are a mild black eye, some bruising or - very, very rarely - get punched in the liver which hurts like hell but has no long-term consequences.

>>9769430
Bullshit. You don't know how much effect do even those mild punches have. If you get them daily it can have an effect over years. It's almost impossible to do research in this.
And your experience does not mean shit if we're talking about long-term effects on your brain.

> get punched in the liver which hurts like hell but has no long-term consequences.

Did you just make that up? How could you know? Can you point me towards some research in this area?

>>9769430
Its pretty rare but freak accidents so happen still in training (prob less likely than riding a bike). If they get out of the beginner phase the injury rate usually goes down. Saw a guy paralysed from neck down few years back in bjj. Have seen multiple full leg breaks in MT (those gross ones where they go to put the leg behind them ).

Professionals run the risk of brain damage, there are a lot of early 20 braindamaged Thais driving tuk tuks in Bangkok. Obviously not going to happen unless you have a 5 round fight every week for 15 years.

Anyone who trains seriously will eventually be injured. I've had two surgeries (hand, acl), broken my toes enough times they are deformed, and my back was injured years ago with no solution in sight.

>>9769488
> Obviously not going to happen unless you have a 5 round fight every week for 15 years.

No, but it can have negative effect on your brain performance. How much? After what time? Nobody knows, that's the problem.

>>9769485
Getting punched in the liver does not cause long term damage. The liver is the only visceral organ that possesses the remarkable capacity to regenerate.

There are plenty of studies done on combat sports and brain damage dyor ;).

Getting punched in the head is not good for your head. If this is something you are worried about do a grappling martial art or kyokushin karate.

>>9768901
>Don't get along with people so I don't go out often. Don't have any hobbies or anything
>Doesn't know why he feels bored of everything.
>t.brainlet w/ no self awareness

if you dont want brain damage then dont damage your brain

only in /biz/ is this concept difficult to grasp

>>9769501

For a professional fighter the chance is there and it should be taken seriously. For a beginner trainer who will likely do NO full contact sparring the likelihood is small to insignificant.

Everything causes cancer, no one really knows how likely passive smoking is to give it to you.
People die getting into cars/planes. People die going for bike rides.
Old people fall over taking showers.

If you let small likelihoods dictate your life you won't be living much.

>>9769555
But the discussion was about learning using full contact martial arts. Why would anyone risk the long-term health of their brain for that?

>>9769485
>Did you just make that up? How could you know? Can you point me towards some research in this area?
Google 'liver knockout'. I know cause I've been hit a few times in the liver. Of course, if you get punched by a professional using his full power he'd probably rupture your liver and you'll die, but a successful liver shot does not require that much power or momentum to get the knockout effect.

I agree, research and actual data is hard to present since everyone has a different physiology - some people might get damaged by a single punch and other may compete for decades with little to no ill effects, excluding the usual bruising. In case I wasn't clear enough, I'm speaking as someone who has only done combat sports as a hobby, despite that I have done it for years. From what i got OP wants exactly this - just a hobby he could engage in couple of times a week. The damage you speak of regards and could be a consequence of rigorous, competitive training and it's not usual, let alone necessary or even expected should you simply do some light sparring. Again, I'm only talking about the case where you find a good gym with adequate coaches and sparring partners. In any case, no one would expect a beginner to spar in their first workout, not even two months after he started. Even then, it won't be free sparring but just learning distance, bobs and weaves, etc. in the course of conditional sparring (for example, your opponent gives you a jab and a straight, you block the jab and slip the straight).

>>9769555
> the likelihood is small to insignificant.

And the likelihood you made that up is..?

>>9769567
because they live in a 3rd world hellzone such as the US and they need to defend themselves and their families from roving packs of jamals

>>9768901

Become an audiophile and spend the rest of your life finding the perfect brand of headphones or the best sounding equipment you've ever heard. Searching for good music actually takes some effort and can be fun too. It's the comfiest hobby.

>>9769555
Exactly.

I hate it when inexperienced people talk out of their asses to convince you to stay away from a perfectly valid hobby and an amazing way to stay in shape just because they perceive it as violent, extremely dangerous, aggressive, thuggish and what not.

You're not made of glass and most of us have had traumas way more severe doing childish shit as kids/teens compared to the damage you may (but most probably won't) get from doing boxing 2-3 times a week as a beginner. Such fear mongering helps no one and just sets out the preposterous idea that combat sports are way, way more unsafe than just about any other physical activity out there like riding a bike or lifting weights.

>>9768901

Also this sounds weird but maybe look back at what your family tree was good at in the past and try to do that. My family on my mom's side has a really strong musical history such as being musicians or being dancers and music as a hobby resonated with me instantly. It's something in my blood. I love to dance and listen to music all day, I never get tired of it. It makes me feel alive to listen to a good song.

>>9769576
Did you read any part of that post aside from the one line you're citing? Dude's talking about a beginner. If you think beginner's get thrown straight into the ring against a 250 lbs professional fighter to get intentionally maimed or killed, you're either insane or you're 5 years old.

>>9769576
Go look up some studies, they have done brain scans of people and looked at activity performed. When i say dyor I mean it, brain damage from casual training (95% of people at martial art gyms) have as much likelihood of brain damage as you do from reading biz post.

Personally i am more nihilistic than most. I don't try to avoid every possible risk in life or demand statistical odds on risks that are so hard to measure.

I've done a lot of mdma, psychedelic and put my brain at more risk than a NEETs. I'm now a professional accountant (skills learnt after getting punched in the head/taking drugs). If i am high functioning after years of fight training/ drugs you should be fine taking 1% of those punches at 5% of the force.

Still not comfortable? Don't do it. It's like crypto, the risk is not for everyone.

>>9768901
Yup, you've done it all. Everything is now boring.

>>9768901
Try to learn something? I don't know man.

>>9769242
C'mon, throw us a fucking bone here!

>>9768901
yeah, just embrace it. Start enjoying simple things. That's it really.

>>9769089
What even is there to do in most of those countries apart from hiking though, Japan is worth visiting though I agree

>>9768985
>t. professional dick sucker

Use your money to buy some tools and play with them. Get a welder, bender, lathe, and mill used from craigslist and go to a junkyard and just start making shit.