/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>9323597
Amazing

Many haters around

>>9323597
Best fundamentals out there, highest potential for 2018

Unrivaled potential.

>>9323597
it's been shilled here non stop so probably a shit coin like most others on biz. haven't seen anybody provide solid information about why it will be successful other than "normies will love this". sounds like December 2017 talk to me. i think the challenge will be getting advertisers to buy the coins, unless somebody can provide some info on how that will go because. do they need to buy the coins from an exchange? some wysker shill can probably provide details but the woman ceo is a red flag for me. women are worthless in leadership positions unless it's a daycare

>>9325505
Agreed. This one needs a kickstart first, then it runs on its own. Advertisers will only come in if the app finds customers, the biggest thing they have right now is the design (which is unironically amazing to me) and the DISCOUNTS meme

>>9325505
The egg-bearer is not the ceo but the coo, and advertisers will be able to buy wys tokens off the ad-platform

>>9325622
getting the advertisers to buy tokens from the exchange seems like a big step to overcome. they have a tiny portion locked away (5%) for strategic partnerships. can someone explain the wysker ad platform that is in development? does that imply that advertisers will need to format their adds through the platform specifically or can they just insert whichever ad they created and submit to the potential users? and if the advertiser buys X number of coins, and plans to target consumers, what happens when there are more consumers consenting to the ads than there are tokens available? will that mean that some people don't get rewards while others do? or will the ad exposure be limited by the number of tokens purchased? any wysklets able to provide some info? i agree the app looks fancy, but producing revenue for retailers is the only thing that matters, and a fancy product that doesn't do this will die.

>>9325749
ok, so they put fiat in for the ads, gotcha. and do they need to sell on an exchange or can you sell from the platform from a wysker liquidity bank or something?

>>9325810
I had an arguement about this with some anon in another thread, and honestly, im not sure.

he was argueing the taxes of the companies that pay for advertising couldnt be written off as such if they bought tokens off an exchange, I am pretty confident there will be some sort of smart contract instead. aka they pay the dev for enableing advertisement services without actually trading the tokens themselves === no scary technology, easy procedure, clearly able to be written off as advertisement payments

I do however NOT know if this is the case!
All Im hoping for is that they release iOS Version very soon, because after that advertizing their product finally starts to make sense. I wanna see it on german tv.

Also, can someone post the Wysker Cat Pic plz?

>>9325878
well technically if you're taking your budget and buying something on an exchange that can go up or down in value then you can't write that off. it's like if Google buys a bunch of Euros on a Forex exchange and the Euro crashes, they don't get to write that off. if they are paying for a service that wysker is providing and the tokens are gifted as part of the package then it would be the other way around. but from what i can tell advertisers need to create their own ads using the platform or something. the whitepaper doesn't explain that part very well

>>9325878
my android phone died two days ago and i'm back on iphone so i can't download the app. fuck

>>9325939
>>9325984
hmm. concerning desu, depending on the platform. also concerning that there is no iOS yet. german media reported on it in september 2017, thats over half a year ago.

It has been shilled recently, saw it first time that way, and I do like the app, rly hard to make any sensible call. If its being worked on it might be a moonshot.

I wouldnt advise anyone to invest in this above anything else they are secure in, this is literally my "oh, I had 0.4 ETH left so I dumped it in this" coin

>>9325505
>it's been shilled here non stop so probably a shit coin like most others on biz.
Thanks to biz I just stacked a grip this past week with Holo and Nexo. Just waiting on Sharder to pop. Some legitimately good shit being shilled on here

>>9326024
my concern is the consent for ads and earn tokens part. the issue about how many tokens the advertiser has to gift to users vs the number of users consenting to the ads. is this like a competition to see who can go through the most content the fastest to gain rewards? i don't see anything about how that works in the whitepaper. it's not like the rewards are based on loyalty from actually buying the products or previous purchases from that retailer. it would be disappointing to accept a bunch of ads and not get a fair reward. won't exactly entice me to use it if i'm not getting the token for the work.

iOS always rolls out apps after android. i like my phone but so many apps are currently unavailable on iOS that are on Android.

>>9326072
>Holo and Nexo

aye but you have to be careful still, holo is interesting, but also pretty strange. nexo seems insane.

then again, theres stuff like colx and amb shilled nonstop here too in the past week, rly gets annoying. just now some coss.io shill thread, that stuff isnt going anywhere. its all so weak.

>>9326082
>is this like a competition to see who can go through the most content the fastest to gain rewards?
I played around with the app for about 15 minutes the other day and was able to farm 0.0940 Tokens by scrolling through and across products at max speed. It really does not seem that insane, but of course, the incentive is there.

The biggest doubt I have is wether normies will think its cool vs just annoying, but I think the userbase for it being cool might just be there. Its all about getting iOS to work, and then heavy marketing.

>>9326158
15 minutes for 0.094 tokens seems like a lot of work for a small reward at this stage. so who issued you those tokens? do you know which retailers or was this from the 10% wysker reserve for early adopters? when that 10% reserve has been mined or farmed by users, will the app depend on the advertisers distributing the tokens?
i have lots of questions about the tokenomics i guess. maybe i'm a brainlet and i'm missing something, but most of the shilling for this has been "norimies will love it". that's not the most inspiring shill tactic in my opinion because that was said during december ico mania about a bunch of coins that went to the gutter quick

>>9326265
a certain group of normies will love it and the rest will hate it, but I like the app as a whole. the tokens just got "collected", to the user it looks like a game, apparently they represent the value of your shopping data; aka what you scroll through, what you buy to the retailers and advertizers.

You can spend tokens afaik to improve how the app matches products to you or on discounts, advertisers spend tokens so the right products get to you, etc.

0.094 for 15 minutes is a sensible rate to me, considering I bought like 1.4k of these tokens just for lulz

To be brutally honest, all one can do with this thing and wait and see. its not as secure of an investment as some other coins are right now, but god knows it could be a decent moonmission imo

>>9326310
so i'm assuming those collected tokens came from the 10% reserve being held by wysker for the early stage user incentives. i'm guessing that this will eventually run out, and the tokens will only be distributed by advertisers. can you confirm this? maybe i'm missing something but it seems like the end result will be advertisers buying tokens, targeting users for their attention and access to data, then distributing to users for the viewing and product recommendations. that goes back to my original concern about competition for the rewards. i can see two scenarios, some users get the reward for viewing content first or viewing more content, or the tokens purchased by the advertiser will be distributed evenly among the users. if the tokens are distributed evenly then that could result in puny rewards if the user base consenting to the ads is out of proportion to the tokens purchased by the advertiser. example using round numbers, advertiser buys 1000 tokens and 100,000 users consent to ads then the reward is 0.01 tokens per user. the value of the token would have to be $1 to earn a penny. anybody else in this thread know anything? where are all the shills from the last thread?

I had a little doozy with the app and I can see people who buy random crap off Amazon/Ebay benefiting the most. Apart from that it is not offering much for the average normie unless you can use your tokens to lower the price, this creates an incentive and gives the tokens a use.

>>9326438
Tokens awarded during campaigns are based on your data profile and your likelihood of purchase (that's if you choose to participate)

The token is a representation of the value of your data profile, everyone has a data profile, but no body has a way of attributing value to their data, this paradigm can be applied to more then just online shopping

>>9325804
Advertisers don't place add as far as I understood. They place products. Products they know that customers like them cause they bought the customer personal shopping data. So they place products to users who will likely buy them and the user get discount for this.
That's atleast how I understand it

>>9326765
>unless you can use your tokens to lower the price

You can do just that and more with the token, it is a representation of your data profile value

And your intitled to your opinion, but this app was designed for the snapchat/Instagram generation, its a normie trap without doubt

Where can I buy it? Í have some eth left.

>>9326826
>its a normie trap without doubt
Exactly. This is why I bet on it

>>9326844
Forkdelta or nebula exchange.

>>9326844
https://forkdelta.github.io/#!/trade/WYS-ETH

>>9326844
https://forkdelta.github.io/#!/trade/WYS-ETH

Best place to buy atm

>>9326782
so your data profile from previous shopping history or just the profile that build by scrolling for goods and making purchases?
>>9326822
section 5.4 describes an ad platform that is being built as an ad service for global brands.
if it's just spamming people with the product then it seems one dimensional for the advertiser.

Is the market cap 10m?
Too big I'm out

Also what's the circ supply?

Thanks you boyos. I am going to put 20 Eth just for the LOLs

>>9326978
Tbh I don't know the details, I just see the big picture which shows a very high moon potential.

>>9326998
102 million total supply
60million sold during ICO
Token price nearly 5 cent.
Market cap is low as fuck, multiplying will happen no matter if it's good or bad product

>>9326978
>so your data profile from previous shopping history or just the profile that build by scrolling for goods and making purchases?

All data(every little detail) is tracked within the wysker app, this is how they build your data profile which you will be able to view and interact with in the 2.0 release.

>just spamming people with the product then it seems one dimensional for the advertiser.

Its essentially a matchmaking system between retailers and data profiles with a high rate of purchase, using the blockchain as a escrow service. You cannot be spammed as you have full control with your not you get advertised to in the first place as their are two channels in the wysker app, the organic channel where products more or less randomised and shown to you in groups called "streams". And the paid channel where your data profile is used to match you to retailers and products you show an affinity for.

This is called "advertising by consent" and is a) much more effective and cost effective then traditional advertising b) Gives data ownership rights and the ability to gain profit from having a data profile to the user.

>>9326998
market cap is 3m https://www.livecoinwatch.com/price/Wysker-WYS

>>9327221
You think 300 million is possible? Would be rich as fuck then

>>9327367
300 million is nothing

>daily trade volume is: 800- $1200

Any thoughts on this?

>>9327582
Its under the radar and waiting until kicking off with 2.0\iOS release, Marketing\exchanges are all planned for after release.

Moonshot going in for 31145 of these

How can I set a market order on forkdelta?

>>9326826
Yeah, I can definitely see the Instagram crowd using wysker since there is so much hipster crap

What is the best place to buy $50k of wysker?

>>9328013
https://forkdelta.github.io/#!/trade/WYS-ETH

>>9327745
Just check and buy what's lowest in the sell book.
Don't think there's a market order option.

>>9326438
They're not coming out at a fixed rate. In the future with the ad platform and appreciation of the price of wys, you may only earn 0.0009 wys for 15mins work.

The biggest thing wysker has going for it is that it captures purchasing intent. Not many other platforms manage to do that because you might input your search for an item into google and then browse their listings from certain shops but then go to their website for checkout. If an advertiser took on a contract for selling 1000 nike kicks and they got 1000 wys for it, they would browse the dataset of wysker to find entries most likely to purchase nike kicks based off the way they use the app/complete purchases and then when they push the ad through the ad platform it will match make between the advertisers and the consumer. They might be able to see there are 3 people in san diego that always buy the newest nikes but they won't be able to deliver their ad to those people unless they offer them wys to be linked up.

I think there'll also be some generic advertising to say reach x amount of people from a certain demographic with y amount of wys, but if you start juat farming either of these ways of getting wys and never actually buying anything your data profile will start losing value/attractiveness.

>>9328683
Are there any crypto shopping apps out right now?

>>9328996
Shopin just finished their ICO. That's all i'm aware of.

>>9329183
i've seen that shilled like once and another shpng or something and cybermiles that i know of but they're all different from what i can tell.

>>9328996
The only released app I know of is wysker

When is the iOS app slated to be released?Thinking of dropping a few eth in now, UUU has been underperforming all week

>>9330123
within Q2

Circulating supply is 60m but on etherscan there are 3 billion tokens, what's up with that. Also there are some whales with 1-2m tokens which could be dangerous

>>9330560
https://etherscan.io/address/0x2f976a5382c0c6214b3d8fe6bdc5379edd35d9d4#code

Just show this app some asian and he‘s gonna steal your phone.

>>9323597
Man I almost thought this was another holocuck thread

>>9328996
Phore

>shytsker pajeets OUT OF CONTROL
>MFW

>>9331372
Oh hai there, another stint of benevolent FUDing to protect the poor helpless bizraelis?

>>9331372
thx for bumping the thread friend

>>9331372
This isn't even listed on a real exchange, shilling at this point won't do anything because people can barely buy it. I think OP is trying to help us out, in any case I put up a buy order on FD

>>9331512

If it’s all about When Binance? Then why shilling at all? You can buy it on forkdelta, radar relay and Nebula.exchange.

>>9331553
Neither radar nor nebula have any real liquidity, I'd have to buy at 10x the current price. I put up a buy order on FD but right now it won't be easy to buy until it gets on a bigger exchange like DDEX or IDEX

>>9331372
Why can't you hold all these wys?

>>9331578

That’s true anon. But Nebula opened just yesterday. Give it some time as it bears much potential. Also Next.Exchange will follow in the coming days.

Team refused to get listed on more exchanges untill now in order to not spread liquidity too much as MC is just at the beginning. Wysker is gonna grow eventually in some major exchanges as daily volume grows.

I remember this was shilled in November. Why isn't this on exchanges yet?

>>9331694
The ICO started in november anon... it ended in february. But yeah they should've gotten on at least IDEX by now

>>9331694

Just use your eyes kek there are listings and it is being traded. They got struck by the parity hack and had to restart their ICO in january.

Sitting there comfy with 65k

>>9332366
Sitting comfier with 450k

>>9332424
pretty fucking solid meme right there DESU
may have to buy some

>>9332443
The meme magic is strong with wys

WYS, best coin for biggest gains. Great coin to hold. Good team good tech. Plz buy sir.

>>9332513
it is indeed, best memes ive seen for shilling a coin in a long time

>>9332522
this but unironically

thank you pritesh i will buy with my remaining 100 rupees

>>9332542
Come to death, templar

>>9332424

Wow you‘re gonna be biz-king!

>>9332424
>>9332443
>>9332513
>>9332530
>>9332749
>literal pajeets replying to each other

>>9332768
>pajeet fuding his own coin earlier

I think it's a shit project but blessed by Kek, so I'm gonna ride this to 100m market cap and get off before it collapses

>>9332913

Hodl til ad-platform release in 2019 and kek‘s gonna be blessed by advertisers money.

>>9332913
>blessed by kek himself
>thinking it's ever gonna fail