/biz/ - Business & Finance

First for WTW hype is over

>>931723

Almost pulled the trigger on $16 this morning, but then I realized my other funds hadn't cleared, so I would have only gotten 7 shares.

Anyone have the EPS for ASTI for Q3? I can't find it last quarter was .36. Have they released it?

I'm going long on CSX right now

locking up dollar amounts that are several hundred thousand times larger than your profits is pure retardation.

Keep it up you speds. These threads are a comedy goldmine.

>>931742
End of the day (3 days later) they still get the money, what's the issue? Theyre not exactly wall street traders who need the money there and then.

>>931742
if you have big money then yeah its better to just pay a 7$ commission per trade and get your money right away I agree

>>931742
>implying we aren't having fun either

Most of the balances on here range from 500-4k which is tiny af this is for giggles picking meme stocks tbh.

>>931724
Got in at $18.17, cashed out at $18.20. Was up at $19 and started tanking to $18.05 so I cashed out as soon as it jumped out a little. Fuck that shit, the hype is over and I just didn't want to loses a single penny. Lesson learned, you get about one day when stuff like this happens before it equalizes

>tfw I bought EMES @ 7.19 last week
>went down to 6.49 and now its still not back yet

I'm still a big fan of DWTI, it fluctuates $5-$10ish dollars a day. Kind of high to buy in but it's good for a quick return. I bought 3 shares at 89.74 and sold at 100 for a quick $30. Probably gonna do it again when I get my funds back

Netflix, good or bad idea? Why.

>>931759
in the long long run its a good idea

in the short run it is coming down

>>931759
I'm on the edge about this.
Revenue and growth all seem good, yes they missed targets for domestic, but they are expanding internationally right now.
P/E ratio is scars me though.
Maybe it is overvalued right now and everyone is starting to realize this. Especially since Amazon Prime got Top Gear, HBO is a la carte now,
and many networks are starting to add online streaming services for a low monthly fee(CBS is 5.99 right now) showing that competition is starting to heat up.
Meaning Netflix isn't as unique as it once was.

>>931759
It was at $700-ish a share and they did a 7:1 stock split so more people could buy it. It's rough now but it'll rebound. No day trading on this one, gonna have to hold it for a while unfortunately but it'll get there.

>>931768
What would you consider the best option right now as far as day trading goes?

>>931720

Choo choo on HEAR train.

Also waiting on to ride out the HK pump and dump.

I'm holding ASTI , RXii, SYN, and MEIP for the long run, what are you guys up to?

Hopefully looking to make some patient and easy (but probably relatively small) profits

I am holding onto ASTI as well, hopefully it will increase soon. Another stock I am holding is NBG, they are supposed to get a decision on a bailout next week, hopefully they get it.

Still holding HEAR and ASTI.

Thinking about dumping my oul stocks tomorrow.

>>931806
*oil

>>931788
>>931792
ASTI is tricky because it trades to the $100th of a penny and fluctuates about a penny a day.

>>931769
I look at everything compared to $100 buying power compared to the historical price fluctuations. DWTI goes about $100 a share a fluctuates $5ish a day. So the potential for a $5 return. ASTI averages a penny a day between .17 and .18. So $100 / $.17 is 588 shares. 588 shares x .18 price jump is 105.88. So also about a $5ish return from $100 buying power. I'm currently waiting for RAX to rebound.

>>931808
>>931806
>>931792
>>931788

"In addition, the MilPak™ E has also been selected to present to the U.S. Military, Corporate, and Investment Leadership at the Defense Energy Innovation Summit and Showcase on December 1-3, 2015 in Austin, Texas."

ASTI holders, What do you guys think is going to happen when this does? Somebody decides to buy a large order of the MilPak and the stock goes up?

just got word from a friend inside. he said asti is going to jump to 20 tomorrow at open

>>931827

"November 12-13
R&D Awards in Las Vegas"

this is also an important date.

All I can say is that I'm riding this out until late november, possibly early decemeber but most likely going to sell when I see it go over $3

>>931868
Ive heard that if they dont reach 1 dollar by this december sometime they are going to get delisted.

Not sure where thr poster got that information though.

>>931871
Pretty much if their presentation of their MilPak-E turns out to be shit (which won't happen because everybody is all about >muh solar) they will get delisted. I just dumped $1000 into it when it hit .17 and will be waiting for my 10-15 grand profit when December comes.

Sold all my stocks Thursday and stil can't use that money yet... What the fuck is this

>>931833
How reliable is this intel?

>>931896
Long term, they are the kings of the cpu market and nobody is even close to comparing to them.

>>931896
1000000000%
It came from 4chan

Damn, wish I didn't spend all money today...
NGB gonna be a big investment

>>931910
>.
What do you mean? Did you invest in NBG or you want too?

>>931883

I know the feeling, I'm trying not to spend the money in my head before/if it happens, but its hard not to think about the best case scenario.

Bought 43 shares of Disney. They better gib me some money back after 1q 2016 report

>>931934
Getting ready for Star Wars, huh?

>>931941
The game should hit first, then the stupid movie and all related swag that should sell well right at the Christmas time. And the movie should bring even more players to that dumb game, so I'm pretty sure 1q 2016 report will raise the stock to the sky.

>>931720
How long does it usually take for to clear my application?

Anyone make stacks off of BTU's roller coaster? I bought it was a meme before the split and ended up making like 11% off of it when it hit it's high a few days ago.

>>931945
It is already factored in to the price and movies only account for 5% of Disney's business. Plus all the amateurs are buying into Disney with the same expectations, when the price isn't and higher after the first quarter, it's just going to fall back to last years pricing. I expect it to be $100 a share by summer 2016.

>>931996
So you suggest to jump of the train?

>>931896
Very reliable, my psychic confirmed it.

>>932040
YUM IS GOING TO THE MOON
OR IT MIGHT NOT

I'm on the ASTI train. bought for .17 with the little money I have, plan on buying when it is low, when I have money of course.
/biz/, how many shares should I invest into ASTI. Do you think the ROI is going to be huge due to the possible military agreement?
Do you think it could go back to the $230 range it did a couple years back?

-$12.01

Kill me

>>932069
Only invest as much as you are willing to lose.

GO ALL IN ~

>>932069
You need to remember that while the news looks good for ASTI right now, there is absolutely no guarantee the military will buy their MilPak. Like the other anon said only invest an amount that you would be comfortable losing.

>>931996
>It is already factored in to the price
Spoken like a trader, and not a gambler.

>>932083
>>932092
Well, let me ask you then. How much IS there to lose? what is the chance that a stock can just tank from no where? what happens? What happens to the stock holders?
>Kind of a newfag.
I am very eager to learn though!

>>932107
The major worry is that if the MilPak is a failure the stock may be delisted as said earlier in the thread. If that happens the stock could drop to pennies thus if you bought in at .18 and are forced to sell off after they are delisted at say .4 cents... Thats a huge loss.

>>932120
.04 cents not 40 cents* to clarify.

>>932120
Just use a stop loss then.
Unless I'm missing something.

>>931728
got 251 shares of that shit

>>932128
Stop loss isn't going to save you from a violent downward swing in after hours trading. It isn't a bad idea otherwise, but it's not a safety net.

>>932120
That's why I'm planning to sell my shares before December comes around assuming that the stock rises in that time. Might have to gamble a bit and hold on to some though

>>932158

That's what I'm running into now. I have $120 held back for other potential trades, but the greed fairy is whispering in my ear about how that could get me 500 more shares of ASTI easy.

I think I need to invest in bugspray, I have 1,000 already.

And of course, if it all pans out and goes to $15 a share, I'll be kicking myself.

Thoughts on GoPro? With recent rewards announced and Christmas around the corner I'm thinking it's a safe bet

>>932162
I dunno man if you have the assets maybe you should save some of your stocks on the off chance they do very well in the long-long run

>>932164
Stock prices fluctuate much more than just holiday sales mate! They do look like they are pretty low right now so they could be a good grab in the long run

>>932162
Bugspray?

They know bout us fam

>>932162
I am also 1000 shares deep in ASTI

It's gonna be a a bumpy ride lads

>>932322
sweet how do i get stickers / coasters whatever that is

>>931720
my verification time is taking forever. any way to remedy this?

>>931720
Whats the deal with this site? Why are they able to give free trades? How fast does money clear and has anyone actually been able to get their money out when they want to after it has cleared?

Don't want to put money into something when I'll never see it again just because of >Free

>>932388
>Visit the website first - www.robinhood.com

>>932323
I'm 170 deep. Just a poor boy tryna make it big fam

>>932417
>>932323


and here i am in Australia with 19000 people ahead of me. Waiting for it to get ACCC permission

whatever happened to the dude who was buying anything biz told him?

Anyone else ERII?

>>932420
mfw

>>932471
quick tell me what to buy today

>>932471
He went 170 in the hole, and is still buying BIZ's picks.
It's not just him. There are others I see doing it.

Western digital to buy scandisk. Scandisk is going up, but probably just hype.

damn im at 2500 shares of asti

im in deep lads

>>931755

> mfw bought EXXI at average price of $10.75
> ten dollars and seventy-five cents
> still holding for divine intervention and 30-year time horizon
> mfw fml

$1,000 and 5,000 shares deep into ASTI

Worse case scenario: I'm out a couple hundred

Best case scenario: It hits even $1.00 and I make $4,000 profit

Supreme case scenario: It hits $100.00 even longer down the road and I make $500,000 (and everyone in /biz/ gets a free pizza)

Can you do anything with a budget of 500? Or 1k? People say after highschool just focus on uni or college but fuck I can't sit still and have shit all in my bank account... what can you do with 500 maximum 1000 and where to start to break into buying shares or daytrading.

>asti
Is there any hope for them not going under??

>>932693
capped for the future, better follow through, whitey

ASTI TO THE MOOON

>>932715
also im buying TASR today

>>932699
I started with fifty and now I'm at sixty. Small steps.

>>932650
How the fuck I'm supposed to know about that shit without some special super top secret insider leak? Literally a few days ago it was advised to stay out of the SanDisk
http://www.bidnessetc.com/55245-short-interest-news-micron-technology-inc-qualcomm-inc-sandisk-corporation/
http://www.businessfinancenews.com/25110-insider-selling-monsanto-company-mon-sandisk-corporation-sndk-servicenow-in/

>>932724
yes welcome to the stock market

its literally gambling

>ASTI is already up 10 percent in a day
Thanks /biz/

Fucking transfer is taking forever. I'm gonna miss the asti train aren't I...

Did you guys see ASTI jump 13% in a matter of minutes? Fun stock, just shows a glimpse of how fast it'll move down the road. I have strong hope for a white christmas this year.

>>932706
Just save that screen and call out for MBP when the time comes! Everyone on /biz/ will get a slice of the pie.

>>932728
Nah, it probably won't hit the higher end until November, and then again come December. If anything, you might just have to buy in around $0.20 which isn't that bad

>>932730
Sweet. So what's the deal with it? Why is it so low? Looks like it's been falling for a year now. What changed to make it worth it?

>>932733
It's just been the market. I'm not exactly saying it is worth it, but I have strong speculation that this stock will make a come back based on their recent news.

I think around January they came out of Chapter 11 which plunged stock value, but now with their new product line and new company mission [1] they have a stronger direction.

Their recent presentation also showed a high growth in profit over the year[1] and their next earnings report should be coming within the next few weeks to further show their profit lead.

You just need to place a figure down of how much you're okay with losing. Losing 1k with a potential to gain 5x that is worth playing with. This stuff happens all the time.

[1] September Investor Presentation
http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/ASTI/869907172x7998626x816671/23B439B7-308B-4A15-9468-DC0ABB1F0052/Investor_Presentation_3-18-15.pdf

>>932738
ALSO...

The technology they use, CIGS, has a strong future and will eventually be able to be mass produced at a lower cost making products even more efficient to sell. [1]

[1] CIGS main player solar market
http://www.rdmag.com/news/2015/09/finding-way-boost-efficiency-cigs-solar-cells

>>932729
what does MBP stand for anyway? Money for Biz Pizza? Because that's what it will mean

>>932715
Beat me to it fucker

>mfw ASTI crashes and burns

>>932779
No pizza for you

>>932782
I'll just buy some with all the money I didn't throw away

>>932741
Neat. Well they said my money would be transferred by Friday so I guess I'll hold tight until then and keep watching. Would be neat to have my first taste of the named be a surprise success. Seems like the best place to be if I'm young and not worried about breaking the bank is cheap penny stocks with a huge potential to rise or also crash fantastically. Is that right?

>ASTI
Welp youve convinced me biz, looks like im buying 1000$CAD worth of shares, ill be hit by a 3% conversion fee(1.5 on buy another on sell) and knocked down by any spikes in the CAD, in at 18.8

>>932786
So you're telling me you wouldn't like free pizza?

Photovoltaics Futures are bright (solar publicity)

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/building-applied-photovoltaics-bapv-market-024245367.html

>be ASTI CEO
>company circling the drain, investors drying up
>lasthope.jpg
>go on /biz/ and drunkenly shitpost about ASTI
>the fire rises
>/biz/ anons buy over 50k shares and save the company

It would be pretty funny if /biz/ saved a company

Why is CLBS shitting the bed???
WHAT THE FUCK!

>>932809
Go read up on how stocks work.

>>932809
>be casual /biz/ lurker
>see thread about beginner/speculation trading
>see news about pennystock
>change name to match another lurker who seems interested and follows news about company
>myfirsttroll.png

>ASTI rises %10 in 20 minutes
>SUNE down %4.20 since open

Im long on SUNE but come on they just started showing signs of controlling their debt and are picking up government contracts around the country and they cant break 9.50. Both are in the manufacture of PV cells. What am I missing?

>>932823
SunEdison's deal is falling apart?
http://www.thestreet.com/story/13330699/1/sunedison-vivint-solar-deal-up-in-smoke-shares-choke.html

>>931833
Confirmed for insider trading

Stupid BMO taking forever to open up my Investorline account.

I want to taste that sweet sweet ASTI poosy. I'm currently neet with a few k sitting in the bank.

Going ASTI and BCM Mining.

>>931833
Keep us informed on your friend until he's arrested.

>>932847
It's not insider trading if he is letting everyone know on a public website.

IMHO it is now public information, people should just know where to look. heh

>itt single man asti pump dump

>>932813
>not understanding how stocks work
>tell other people to read up on how stocks work

You're not too bright are you bud?

>>932822
>be newfag
>enter anything into name field

There is a reason only tripfags use names

NBG doing well, it'll probably hit 1.00 within this week or next.

im long
>FIZZ
>LBIO
>AMD
>NEP

>>932162
just picked up $1000 in ASTI

Thinking of buying more HEAR tomorrow when it does the last morning dip as usual. Hold til end of Nov to get them black Friday/ battlefront release spike gains

>>932930
Late morning dip, not last. Not sure how that happened

Eh fuck it I jumped on the ASTI train too with what little buying power I currently had left over. Got in at 0.18 on the dot

Hoping ASTI will be my knight in shining armor.

Always a bridesmaid, never a bride.

Also picked up 40 shares in ESI during the dip this morning. Earnings report is next week, so I'm hoping for a good climb to cash out at.

I'm in rxii right now and I feel like selling out because the hype isn't real

>>932937
Got 100 shares cause why not

MSFT dropping like a fucking rock right now

>>932082
I was with GoPro a while before they crashed and burned
Lost $20 or so
Same with fitbit

just jumped on the ASTI train as well. 500 shares.

This is what I see right now. Could be a buy next week well see what happens

ERII AFTERMARKET GOING SKY HIGH

WHOS ONBOARD

>not hopping on ADAT

Bros we need a better system. Before the market opens, say what you either have or will have and at what price. Give a couple brief reasons why, then if someone shows interest either elaborate or tell them where to do their own research.

During trading hours, do similar and comment on how you're doing.

After the day is over, don't give 20/20 hindsight comments, explain what you're looking forward to the next day

>>932973
Explain this.

>>933076
>We
Do your own research or follow stock twits if you want to listen to strangers advice

This thread is for bandwagoning and baseless speculation

Currently any DWTI you can buy for $99 or less will yield a profit. They average at low $100's a share. Try for $95 sell at $105

>>933108
I'm brand new to the merrier but this thread has made me an expert. Throw all you have at ABT right now!

>>931720
So this is essentially Loyal3: The App?

>>933150
AYE AYE SIR

SET TO BUYING 3 POORFAG SHARES IN THE MORNING

Is there anything else like robinhood that can be used in Australia ?

Nigger this question gets asked daily in every one of these threads.

Learn to read

>>933240
Sorry i dont browse biz that often

>>932952
555 shares. Get on my level ;P

>Be me, poorfag
>Some Chad at work tells me about the hood.
>Board ERII hype train
>lose money as soon as it opens today
>Skyrockets afterhours
>Selling all my shares tomorrow when it hits $9
>mfw i have to ask him how to make my text green
>mfw i don't know what I'm doing

>>933332
how much did you buy in at

>>933335
$7.50

Whats the problem then? You will be making a profit!

>>933338
A big IF it hits 9 tomorrow. This is my first time trading and its very intense. Im excited to get back my profits so i can invest more. My main goal was to make a little and buy GM stock and hold on to it for long

>>933341
good luck my friend. I made an account and Im going to play around with 400. 200 on ASTI in hopes of making a lot, and 200 on random things to play being a day trader

>>933352
Thanks and to you as well. I made an acct and added just 50 dollars so i could get the hang of things and poorfag. But i also bought into ASTI, heres hoping for that mil contract. And after a few weeks i plan on adding some more funds and start buying into GM for the long haul

soooo anyone have a general list of lower cost stocks other than ASTI and HEAR? I want to start trading at a short term level, but I feel really overwhelmed with how many stocks there are and what not. I want to see a bunch to get a general sense of this whole penny stock thing. Thanks <3 xoxo

>>933408
If I had more money I'd want to mess with, I would invest into OMEX (Odyssey Marine Exploration Inc)

First off, under sea exploration is totally cool. Great conversation piece for random ladies, easily segway into something about the environment.

Second, they've seemed to be doing pretty well recently. I haven't looked into them much as my focus has been on ASTI. But if anyone else wants to look into them more and report back on findings that'd be rad.

>>933408
NGB

>>933410
One source says OMEX is short term supposed to reach 4 maybe even $6, but $2 at the least.

>>933419
the next big meme stock??

>>933425
hop aboard. who knows, they can use marine exploration for oil and shit too. CHOO CHOO only 8 hours to cash in on sweet juicy morning peak

>mfw all these Ascent Solar posts are just an elaborate attempt to get investors, and it works and the stock bounces back and i didnt invest.

>>933411
don't see it on robinhood

ASTI is the biggest troll stock ever. Anyone who looks at their historical prices can easily see they are tanking hard. They're on their way to $0.15 a share I GUARENTEE it. Cash out while you can folks.

>>933487
>GUARENTEE

>>933410
>marine exploration is cool and would be a good conversation piece

topkek at your criteria for investing

>>933217
bump, pls i need help :'(

Big CLH announcement this morning. Been posting about it for a couple weeks.

>>933427
>>933532
in for 280 stocks at 0.55

>>933587
>tfw there is a clean harbor plant outside the window of my office and it already leaked poison gas once, less than a decade ago, and I'm just counting the days until I die at a miserable job.

bamp

Robinhood general is now just daytrader/penny stocks general and I am okay with this

>>933487
dont they have a competition coming up soon where if they win they can go to the moon?

Got a tip from a friend that asti is going to 30 in an hour

>>933668
lmao any proof ?

>>933668
its at .17 now dont see it hitting 30 anytime soon

>>931788
>>931806
>>931827
>>931833


Why are you holding ASTI?

There is are no sales contracts with any military. Why are you buying this stock ahead of price action? Who says ASTI will secure a contract with the Military?

On top of that, the company's financials.


http://biz.yahoo.com/e/150928/asti8-k.html
> The Company intends to seek stockholder approval of such share issuances at a special stockholders meeting to be held in November or December 2015.

Why does the company need financing if it's doing so well?
It's issuing shares. It's preparing to dilute the shares outstanding and fuck investors.

Im new to trading on the stock market, but I put a thousand on this app to see where it takes me and I put about 10 shares (350) into ATVI, based on the fact over the year it made up 88% and before that it was nothing but rising.

is that wise? any other decent long term stocks? and what about short term?

>>933673
some drunk shitposter on /biz/ told them it was a great investment one night for a laugh and the robin hood speculators all jumped aboard.

>>933666
Apparently they're in the running for a military contract. Win and they could literally go to the moon. Any word on the competition? That might tell us if they're worth it.

>>933713
>>933695
>>933673
http://investors.ascentsolar.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=936102

>>933673
Worst case scenario I lose 50 dollars. I've blown half a bill on worse shit.

Damn, if only people on /biz/ listened to the the person who said invest in NBG. I bought in last was at .73 and today it's floating at .99 cents. It should definitely hit 1.00, btw ASTI sucks.

>>933721
apparently in the last month it's been going up, is that a good indicator of anything?

>>933724
Yeah, they are talking this week about a bailout package. The amount is less then 2 billion but still it will definitely help the stock.

>>933714
>oh wow the company released a press release that makes it sound like it's on the verge of blowing up!
>it must be true! Why would a company be overly optimistic in a press release aimed at investors?

The military is in a budget slashing phase and there are hundreds of these competitions every year that amount to nothing even if you win. ASTI is circling the drain.

>b-b-but someone on /biz/ told me if they win the military gives them a trillion dollar order and they shoot up to 1000 dollars a share

>>933713
Hope isn't a viable strategy. How do you as a trader know if they'll secure a contract?

>>933727

Bought in at .18. My guess is they will get to .50 on the hype, maybe higher. I'm selling before the release of the contract information.

>>933732
>before the release of the contract information

Did you guys even read the release you keep talking about?

There is no contract, not even on the way. They're in the process of applying to be LISTED by the GSA, then AFTER they've been accepted to that the military MIGHT negotiate a contract but almost certainly won't. In fact getting listed to the GSA during the current budget cutting phase is highly unlikely in itself.

There won't be any hype that shoots the stock price up, it's a penny stock and no serious investors think attending an R&D competition and filling out an application to be considered on a list of companies which can be considered for military contracts is going to blow the company up.

Why ha the Rxii stock plunged? I thought it was supposed to hit $3 after the conference

>>933217
bump !!

BUY NBG WHILE YOU CAN!

>>933743
holy shit, pretty large jump in the last few days

>>933419
>One source
That doesn't sound very legit

>>933746
Yes, and only going to keep going up! NBG to the MOON!

>>933752
how much did you buy ?

>ESI tanking hard

Wonder if it'll rebound a bit. Read that they were closing down a bunch of their campuses, must have spooked people.

>>933755
I didn't have my money back from selling HEAR, so only 42 shares. Gonna buy more as soon as I can.

>>933743
I wouldn't risk it tbh fam
http://www.bidnessetc.com/55686-national-bank-of-greece-adr-time-bomb-is-ticking/

>>931720
Is there anything like this for people in the UK?

>>933763
and Aus !!

>>933761
We'll see depends when I get my moneyback from Robinhood, shit takes forever.

>>933761
yeah lets hope tommorrow or the following week its worth it, ive already lost like 7 bucks on it lol.

>>933767
Yeah the 3day cooldown is just the worst.

>>933767

I just deposited some cash. Do both deposits and withdrawals take up to 3 days? Is it faster after the first time?

>>933780
I am currently transferring money into robin hood for the 2nd time and no it's not any faster than the first

>>933588
get out while you can friendo

HOLY FUCK ASTI JUST HIT 2 $

>>933792
Stop anon that's rude.

>>933792
bullshit, its never been that high

>>933792
it's fuckers like these that makes me hope ASTI crashes

>>933752
Got 20 shares yesterday and I am up 6% so far
Thinking I might cut my losses by today
Get my dollar

>>933792
topkek

bank of greece just destroyed 20 bucks. Should I stay in and see what happens tommorrow? Ive come this far.....

Guys, what tool can I use to follow the most active stocks on the market?
I'm interested to try day trading or at least simulate it for now.

ANY FIZZ?

Might get in. Honesty nothing bad from this stock.

Thoughts?

GET IN ANYONE?

>>933451
NBG, my bad. Bank of Greece

>>933714
>In addition, the MilPak™ E has also been selected to present to the U.S. Military, Corporate, and Investment Leadership at the Defense Energy Innovation Summit and Showcase on December 1-3, 2015 in Austin, Texas.

This article isn't a contract winner.
They're presenting a product to a Government agency. They're on the right path, but until they secure a contract, it's garbage. The company is not doing well if it requires financing, and ontop of fundamentals; the technical analysis of this company is very bearish.


>>933666
> dont they have a competition coming up soon where if they win they can go to the moon?
Sure. But who says they will win?
What if they fail? This is a pennystock. It would be reasonable to believe that they may fail. They're asking for financing, they're preparing to dilute shares and fuck over investors.

You should wait for a contract victory, and price action to follow and piggyback this stock. You're hopeful that they will secure a contract with the military.


Hope is not a strategy.

>>933817
I bailed

>>933843
>Sure. But who says they will win?
Well, I actually did some research and found out that they don't have any direct competitors within their niche at that expo. It's still doesn't guarantee that military are even in need of such product, and moreover are going to buy it.

>>933843
But on the same token it's a penny stock. If the market is gambling, I'd say penny stocks are the lottery but with less astronomical odds that can actually be predicted for. What does it hurt dumping 20 dollars on the odds that they don't go under, win a contact and move into actual dollar amounts per share?

>>933844
fuck it, maybe it'll be worth something tommorrow, it's got a decent trend for the next few days.......allegedly.

>>933767
>>933779
>not keeping 1/3 of your balance liquid

>>933817
>Ive come this far.....

That's a dumb as fuck strategy. Never carry on with something just because you've come that far.

So how do you guys find companies to trade in? What I would like to find would be a list of companies stock symbols with a history graph of their stock prices next to each symbol, is there any free platform to get that from?

>>933693
Both technical analysis and fundamentals present this stock well.
Not a bad long play considering the holiday season is around the corner, and the stock is receiving alot of positive news.
But don't expect blowout returns. Remember; you have a small position.

IF ASTI goes up again it will be next week Tuesday or Wednesday historically speaking.
Should hit .19 at least, MAYBE .20 but that's playing risky.

>>933880
I wouldn't make any stupids moves until "November 12-13 R&D Awards in Las Vegas" results. I would literally follow that event online or something like that to response immediately

>>933882
I'd sell right before then. If they don't get an award the stock will tank. Just like Netflix's quarterly report was expected to be better then their last one but people still freaked out and the stock dropped. It's alway high right up until the event, I'd bail the day before.

I was looking over ASTI a little closer and this week alone was the potential to make $11 per every $100. Maybe not so bad after all if you know what you're doing. I'd buy in at .17 or lower and sell at .19 or higher next week Tuesday/Wednesday when their prices seem to go up.

>>933851
Why would you assume a contract would move into actual dollar amounts per share? You're assuming that based on nothing.

Again you guys are only paying attention to the competition which isn't related to gaining a military contract.

To get a contract the GSA first has to accept them on to their list, they accept very few people and since government is currently cutting budgets getting on that list is basically impossible.

Even if they do somehow make the GSA list, then they still have to go and apply for contracts and try to sell it..to again a military that is cutting back costs everywhere it can.

>>933850
These competitions exist to gain a little prestige for your product, you pay an entry fee and everyone gets some kind of award for entering. The part of the competition they are in is 'market disruptors'. That's literally just a title made to make the products sound exciting.

It's a worthless penny stock, if you guys are smart you'll dump before they dilute and the stock drops down to nothing.

>>933921
Yep I'm bailing next week at .19 fuck it. Bought at .18 so not much gain but pulling out just to be safe.

who DIS here? what with starwars coming out soon and all that, they should be going up soon eh?

>>933960
I'm >>931934 here. Thinking about jumping off the train after 115 (bought at 110), but at the same time I don't see any other opportunities for easy gains right now

>>933825
I almost bought a week ago when ny money finally hit but i only put in 50 bucks and wanted to play with pennystocks first. I want it mostly because i love Faygo.

>>933968
How can anyone love faygo?

Faygo: when there is nothing else to drink

and now... Grape Faygo: for when you're the only nigger at an insane clown posse concert

>>933960
I bought in at 103 because I expect investors will appreciate the amount of money DISNEY can make from Star Wars; the popularity is of course obvious, but Star Wars stuff outside of the movies also always does excellent with sales.
Also, the movie sales should do good If they get the black audience like they wanted; they tried putting Samuel Jackson in as a familiar face in the prequels, but it didn't really do much for people. It's not like Tyrone was gonna go watch it now.
DISNEY already has its potential white Star Wars fans. This time around, with a black protagonist, they're trying to bring in that untapped source of potential minority race fans that may not have given a shit otherwise if it was "white people nerd shit in space again episode 7"

>>934093
>>933960
>not realizing all that is already priced in

>>934084
NIGGER I KNOW YOU AINT TALKIN SHIT BOUT ROCK N RYE

>25 shares of asti at roughly .1775 a pop.
>down about 4 cent.

I'm really new to trading and I'm working with small money just playing around for entertainment really. I don't expect to get rich. Gonna hang on to asti until I turn a buck or two profit.

Once I've got funds (hopefully tomorrow) how quickly will RH let me trade?

>>934122
its pathetic you can get excited about literal pocket change. fucking hell is wrong with you people i have 25k shares in asti at .17 , man the fuck up

I AM IN UK.
HOW MUCH MORE DO I HAVE TO WAIT FOR ROBIN HOOD TO BECOME AVAILABLE IN UK?

Is there any way I can use Robin hood from UK?

If not, should I go with a normal broker app/website and pay the commissions or what?

>>934134
>If not, should I go with a normal broker app/website and pay the commissions or what?

yes
theres nothing revolutionary about robinhood

they have free trades but then when you sell your money is tied up for 3 days. this is basically the commission as far as im concerned.

>>934134

We don't know. Shut the fuck up and go google it yourself. You aren't going to get rich off of robinhood.

>>934132
Dropping 5 grand on what could be a garbage stock. Anon. We can justify it if it's not a lot of money. Not all of us are rich enough to consider 5k "fucking around" money.

>>934136
Your money is tied up or the tied up? Basically if I bought asti at .15 and by some miracle of Satan it shot to 200 for all of a minute and I sold in that minute, would I get credit at that rate or would they fuck me with the rate for 3 days from that sell?

>>934140
Nah you can sell any time you want at the current price, it's just that after you sell you have to wait 3 days before you can withdraw the money from the sale or use it to buy again.

>>934140
when you sell you get that value posted to your account, so you wouldnt be fucked no

but you cant actually get at that cash for 3 days. you cant take it and buy more stocks until it goes from the 'unsettled funds' category to the 'buying power' category in the app

>>934143
>>934144
Oh OK that's fine. Just means I'd have to juggle between free and lending assets if I intend to trade that often. Can't wait until my money clears tomorrow so I can start learning valuable lessons about losing everything.

So what exactly is unsettled funds?
Does every broker do this? Why can't they just let us trade with that money if we're going to get it back anyway?

Or are they just getting the money early and keeping it to gain the interest to pay fees?

>>934156
>Or are they just getting the money early and keeping it to gain the interest to pay fees?

yeah i think they use your money in the downtime for themselves...

other brokers dont do this no.

>>934156
It's likely the interest thing. They hold all of the money in some huge account. Millions of cumulative dollars all collecting interest on much more safe investments something something? At least I imagine that's how they make money if there is no commission fee.

>>934132
>he threw 5k on asti because someone on /biz/ told him he should buy it

>>934177

>>934136
>your money is tied up for 3 days

like all other broker unless you have a margin account and want to trade on a loan.

>>934084
>>934105
>be me live in michigan, faygo is my life blood
>currently drinking rock & rye
>FUCK YOU FAYGO HATER!
>nigger
Stock looks good though. Will buy soon

>>934156

It's called ACH and every single free money transfer you do for any company, is going to take 3 days.

>>934201

>>934205
selling stock doesn't go through ach though, does it?

>>934098
Stop spouting shit you don't understand.
"Factored in the price already" doesn't mean that it's factored correctly.
If the earnings expectations are really high, and they meet those estimates, the stock will almost definitely go up. Maybe that day, maybe steadily over the course of a month, assuming no bad news comes out.
The point I made was that Star Wars will perform slightly better than expected; while Star Wars stuff will make up just a tiny percentage of disney's profits, they'll be able to start doing things like transition it more into their theme parks, boosting park popularity, and so on. This speculative stuff im talking about ISNT factored in already, because nobody has any idea to what extent all of this stuff will go to. Maybe disney will kill the franchise in 10 years. Maybe they'll do something we don't see coming because if anyone can make top profit out of entertainment, it's Disney.

>>934200
thats nonsense
when I use my capital one sharebuilder (or whatever its called these days) account i can sell market orders during the day to free up cash and use that to make other stock purchases in the same day

>>934217

The money needs to get transferred from another person's brokerage account to yours.

>>934230
>capital one sharebuilder

looks like you're full of shit

You'll know if your trade has executed because a trade confirmation will post to your account right after your order is filled. Three days after the trade date (it's called T + 3), your order will settle, which completes the transaction.

https://www.capitaloneinvesting.com/main/help/topic.aspx?CategoryCode=CTRDSTLFRE

>>934235
okay well heres a screenshot of my transaction history

you will note my account balance on the far right and the dates on the left.

>>934239

I don't know what type of account you have or if it is using other funds to clear your current funds, but it says right on their web site stocks take 3 days to clear.

Why would they lie?

>>934243
well to be fair it says 3 days is the maximum

i dont have a margin account

>>934243

How often have you done this? looks like you can use unsettled funds but if they find out they can freeze your account

>Let's say you use unsettled funds to purchase a new security and then turn around and sell this security before the sale settled. In that situation, we are required to treat the transaction as freeriding under Federal Reserve Board rules for cash accounts.

>If, however, you choose to sell the second security prior to the settlement date of the first security, you have then bought and sold using unsettled funds. This is considered a "credit" transaction and is prohibited by Regulation T of the Federal Reserve Board.
The Federal Reserve Board requires that we place a 90-day settled-funds-only freeze on every cash account that is in violation. Accounts with this restriction are unable to invest funds from stock sales until the sales settle.

>>934248
hmm

please dont report me :^))))

>>934248
honestly though i think the fact that their platform allowed me to buy more stocks was an indication that the funds had 'settled' into my account already

>robinhood
why aren't these niggers in canada yet
CMON TRUDEAU

>>934258

From thier web site it sounds like you can buy stocks the same day but you are not suppose to.

>One way to avoid freeriding is by looking at the trades you're thinking about placing the way we do when we monitor trades for freeriding.
Have at least three market days passed since you purchased the stock? Your trade confirmation shows the settlement date.
If you purchased a stock with the proceeds from a prior sale, verify that the settlement date for the original shares you sold has passed prior to selling it.

>>934265
well in my example,

I sold the DNKN and then bought CSX but i still havent sold the CSX.
so its a non-issue i think?

it only becomes an issue if i buy and sell the CSX before the DNKN cash settles... right?

>>934268

Dunno man, I don't use capital one. Let us know if your account gets frozen.

Lads.

http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/10/drug-with-rage-inducing-5000-price-hike-now-has-1pill-competitor/

Thoughts?

>>934273
THE FREE MARKET WILL FIX IT

So newfag to /biz here, getting in to stocks and all that, I have a good amount of money to start off, Ive been looking into this for about 2 weeks now and feel like RH is a good place for me to start before I actually swim with the big fish. Anyone have any advice for me?

>>934287
Put it all in ASTI :^)

RH is more for some simple betting for fun with the little stuff

>>934275
Well it did

>>934288 I read this whole thread and looking into all the disputes definitely not doing that haha
I've been here for a few hours

>>934221
>stop spouting shit you don't understand
You mean like you're doing? you're a speculator who thought
>hurr durr dey make a lot of money on star wars = stock price going up
and you still think that.

The point still stands that the movie and resulting incomes are already factored into the price. Disney stock already trades at a higher value then would a company with it's cash flow typically would for the sole reason that it's a well known hyped company.

The fact is you're a speculating moron who knows nothing about analysis and refuses to accept you don't understand it.

>>934337
>speculating moron
aw did I hit a nerve when I called out your "it's in da price!!!" meme?
Of course I'm being speculative, I never said I wasn't. But that's what stock investments are; they're speculations. Some carry higher risk than others. Everything else like expected profits and so on, I agree, is factored in already.
But speculations aren't. And that's what I'm banking on, an opinion from someone who personally knows about a franchise and is willing to bet an extra dollar that it will do well. I believe that their marketing of the SW franchise will produce good results, which is not guaranteed, and which is not necessarily factored into the price already.
If a successful quarter was completely factored in to every stock price before earnings even came out, stocks wouldn't go up when solid earnings (and forecasts for the next quarter) were announced. People would just go "ok cool now what?"

But keep up with your "analysis," cause I'm sure you make loads a mone sitting on your chair trying to avoid compaies because their good stuff's already "factored in"

Stocks i have been looking at.
NRP 2.10
Had a big drop yesterday. Way oversold. Has a good chance to rebound
NEM 19.10
Mining company. Been skyrocketing since gold has gone up
LABU
Biotech 3x long ETF. Bio tech got hit hard recently. Probably some good gains in this one. Pricey tho.

Oh and for winter. I imagine UGAZ will break higher next week. Natty gas is at a three year low. Doubt it stays there.

>>934287
Dont go asti. Solar is dead in the water right now because oil and nat gas is cheap as fuck. Solar companies generally do well when electricty is sky high. Summer time they might rebound. Study historical charts and look for patterns.

>>934516
Would make sense, another one to check out when oil and gas are high is TSLA, buddy has some stock there, its very volatile so beware

>>932420
Make fake accounts using your referral link I jumped from 19000 to 200

>>934221
This is interesting to me. Maybe it would be worth investigating toy companies. Im sure performances are high during the holiday season.

Huge gains in the futures market. For today . 30 minutes from open.
Get in UDOW or TQQQ if you wanna just make gains off total market moves. Same day trade. Sell before close. LABU probably will do good. Mining companies will do well with gold up. Im goin balls deep im NRP.
Cheers boys! Lets go get rich!

Stay strong on ASTI boys
If it goes lower though might buy more

Imprimis pharma, called that shit. Almost bought yesterday REEEEEEEEE

>>934516
>implying heating isn't expensive as fuck in winter

Markets open, asti a shit. What's the new flavor folks?

>>934591
Judging by what's been happening in its past it likes to drop to .16 then up again, make .20-.24 cents. I'm getting nervous though about these events coming up and some of the things people have been saying. Like >>934516.

What do you think >>934591?

invest they said.
it would be fun they said.

>>934622
Heating in the US is mainly oil in the north east. And natural gas or electric everywhere else. Nat gas is cheap and electric heaters dont use anywhere near the watts that AC does.

>>934622
Also if you have central heat and air. Like most folks. Your heater ia just a gas furnace with a blower motor.

>>934654
ohh god !! :(

>>934654
how did it drop so much in like a day ??

Is there a UK equivalent of Robinhood yet?

>>934654
ouch


What the fuck are you doing ASTI
I just put in a limit order for .163
get your ass back down there

>>934667
>not living in America

Who else NBG?

PAY YOUR DEBTS GREECE!!

It may be almost time to load up on SYN again

>>934668
What's up?
Buy ASTI hold until late November or early December

>>934666
the same way it can rise by that much in a day satan.

>>934674
They look like their due for another crazy spike. Any reason why that happens?

>>934337
Man, you're really stupid as fuck. I bought DIS at 106 this Tuesday immediately after the first news about the SW movie tickets. You told me that "It is already factored in to the price", and guess what, on a second day, I could sell the stock at 113.7 already

>ASTI today

Should rebound a little next week Monday or Tuesday, those are gonna be the days to sell.

>>934688
>106
My bad, it was 110.06, but the profit is still pretty decent for a blue-chip

>>934677
damn i feel like penny stocks is just gambling

>>934698
No shit Sherlock

>>934688
>$3 profit per $100
This is not how you get rich quick guys.

>>934703
Good luck with your penny stocks m8

As of right now, RH is all cash accounts and you can therefore pattern day trade, correct?

>>934703

3% in three days would be exactly how you get rich quickly. of course disney is not gonna keep that up.

>>934391
>it's factored into the price is a meme
Not a meme, just a simple fact, moron.
>I agree it's factored out but here is my totally bullshitted answer as to why it's not factored out
Yeah you're an idiot

>keep up with your 'analysis"
Right, and you keep on speculating and losing your money like an idiot bub.

>jump off UAL at 58.07
>it's 58.66 now
FUCK! Although I only had 5 shares so I can't bitch too much.

>>934688
>stock moves 4 points
>IT TOTALLY WORKED MAN YOU'RE STUPID IT'S NOT FACTORED IN
>being this stupid

Jesus christ you speculators are retarded.

>>934757
Well, show us your G\L stats

>>934755
>reply with literally no substantial refutations

Well
Enjoy trying to bait, hopefully someone else will bite

>>934778
Google it if you want substantial refutations, we both know you're wrong.

>hurr if you don't explain to me how the entire financial system works guess I'm right

You are extremely determined to be stupid.

>>934778
Tell me again how projected earnings being factored into stock price is just a 'meme' made up on /biz/ to troll you again though. It's really funny how delusionally idiotic you manage to be.

>>934783
>tell me again how projected earnings factored into price is a meme
You can't read at all can you?
I said factoring things into the price isn't perfect. It's not like Disney has some objective valuation of 109 right now, like the company's true worth is 109 a share.
Guess what, pal, pricing a stock on projected earnings is gambling too, did you know that?

>Have shares in MSFT

Up 10% today baby

ASTI News --

Shorts decreasing == investor confidence

http://www.wallstreetpoint.com/short-interest-has-decreased-in-3-stocks-ascent-solar-technologies-inc-asti-avis-budget-group-inc-car-neurocrine-biosciences-inc-nbix/7217217/

>>934802
newfag here, so this basically means steer clear?

>>934795
>not understanding the difference between blind speculation and investment
>"m banking on, an opinion from someone who personally knows about a franchise and is willing to bet an extra dollar that it will do well. I believe that their marketing of the SW franchise will produce good results, which is not guaranteed, and which is not necessarily factored into the price already."
>>>934093


You keep jumping back and forth claiming it isn't then it is because you have no idea what you're talking about. It's because you're an idiotic speculator who got upset over someone letting you know about a fact. But you think you automatically know it all right? Even though you were blatantly wrong and continue to compound your mistake with more stupidity.

If I had like 10,000 in equity to fuck around with would it be possible to turn that into a real income just from hoping on the right stock? Like I see a few of these go up a good 3-5% during the day. Is it feasible to make that kind of investment into my daily income or is that too rare a thing?

>>934813
Wrong

>>934830
It means go for it? Like in the long run it will be good or something? Thanks im just trying to comprehend what im reading

>>934829
If you diversify properly it could be possible, but thats for more of a long run type of thing

>>934833
Well I mean I'm 25. I could lose every dime I have right now and it wouldn't be the end of the world. Just trying to see if I could potentially turn this into a steady income stream. Not trying to be a wage cuck forever. A well paid wage cuck but a cuck none the less.

>>934831
If people are shorting, they're betting the price falls. So if they're not, they have confidence that it will at least hold current levels.

Go for it if you wish, that's up to you and how you choose to invest.

>Note: I have 2k shares of ASTI

>>934835
I feel it, Im 21 and im in the same boat as you. Im putting 10k into an IRA account since its untaxable while trading, from what i understand, im still new to this so im trying to piece it all together as well

>>934840
What does shorting mean? or like an example of it, newfag here

>>934843
investopedia.com

>>934851
yeah i googled it as well, i just wanted like a more personal meaning. if that makes sense

>>934857
The opposite of not shorting

>>934875
Thanks..

>>934828
>keeps calling names
>claims im blindly speculating
>still can't read
>all he can do is try and point out what he thinks is a flip flop in my argument because he has nothing better to argue
I said the success I think they will have isn't necessarily factored in already because I believe they will beat expectations.
And you're getting literally mad over that statement
lel

Okay this is a weak thread. Let me give you a real stock that is about to shoot up. FRSH is Papa Murpheys. The company is way undervalued for what they actually produce. They franchise take and bake pizza locations have almost zero overhead and consistently turn a 25% profit on average in stores after accounting for salary and fixed costs. They have 1500 locations and NEVER close stores because they could theoretically waive all fees and sell 20 pizzas a day and stay open.

>>934974
Excuse me but what is take and bake pizza

Also my stock pick for tomorrow: relypsa. Too much explaining, so I'll just stick with saying it's my pick of the day

>>935040
Tomorrow is Saturday bro

>>934880
>has no argument, already got proven wrong in the very first post
>keeps compounding that mistake with more stupidity
>thinks future earnings being factored into the market is a 'meme'

It's not my fault your a retarded speculator don't get so upset bud, just go pick up a couple books on beginner investing. Are you even old enough to use this website?

>>934580
>+$9 8% today
I should have listened

>>935060
You officially resorted to simply talking baseless shit to me
Congrats, you confirmed your buttfrustration
Also
>your

>>935058
Well you get what I meant

>>935040
>it's my pick of the day

No one cares what your pick of the day is, especially not a company that has been crumbling for a year and is deep in the red.

Tomorrow is also a Saturday dummy.

>>935072
>points out facts
>t-that's just b-baseless shit!
>only response is 'your'

Keep projecting and keep being stupid bud, it's pretty entertaining. I don't think I've seen anyone this dumb and ignorant to how the market works on /biz/ in a while.

Also>>934391
>trying to avoid compaies

>>934802
>October 19th

This is no longer relevant

>>934974
Wrong. Now is the time to sell.

http://www.dakotafinancialnews.com/papa-murphys-holdings-stock-rating-lowered-by-sp-equity-research-frsh/548920/

>>935080
You're literally so angry that you double post just to throw as many insults as you can, then try to criticize me for posting something that didn't give you any attention
For the sake of the thread, please stop shitposting, I stopped feeding your petty argument bait, hopefully you'll stop derailing after your latest post

Back to the thread, enjoy not profiting from a company that's oversold because of an emotional overreaction to an otherwise great news announcement from yesterday morning. I'll be here profiting in the long run

I think I fucked up...

Bought 2000 shares of ASTI, gonna try to sell at .18 next week. Wish me luck guys!

>>935136
I just commented on your idiotic "pick of the day" which no one cares about.

It's not petty argument bait, it was me pointing out you were wrong and you crying about how facts are 'baseless accusation.

I've had Disney shares since 2004 rofl, you bought in near it's peak and think selling in a couple months is 'the long run'.

You couldn't be more of a retarded speculator. Your reasoning for thinking disney will break projections which are already high as can basically be is because

>they have a black guy so now black people will like it too instead of just nerds!

Everything you've said here has been completely stupid, immediately disproven.

>s-stop derailing t-the thread w-with your f-facts!

No, it's too amusing to watch you come up with bullshit excuse after bullshit excuse for your utterly stupid reasoning.

>>935138
Why did you fuck up?

>>935144
I meant the oversold company in my last post was relypsa, not disney

Please curb your sperging, in an attempt to keep this thread from going to shit this'll be my last reply to you

>>934273
>http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/10/drug-with-rage-inducing-5000-price-hike-now-has-1pill-competitor/
What company tho

>>935138
You feelin that gambler's rush yet?
I may join you for the fun of it tomorrow, otherwise I'm thinking of making a simulated portfolio that silently tracks recommendations on this thread and would post the results a month later

>>935156
So you click the stocks tab on MSNBC or something and buy into any of the ones you see in the news?

This is why you are a retarded speculator. If you did a shred of research instead of just seeing "a black guy in da new star wars! disney about ta go to da moon!!". Relypsa's news about FDA allowing a changing in wording is meaningless grasping at straws from a company rapidly circling the drain. They're deep in debt, they have tons of more successful competition and barely anything proprietary left in their shell of a sinking ship.

>b-but t-they w-were in the news! they m-must be going to the moon

At best they'll see a jump a couple percentage points before collapsing into nothing. Most likely not even that.

>stop ruining this thread with facts and pointing out how stupid my baseless speculation is!

No wonder you thinking projected earnings don't actually impact a stock's price and are just a meme.

>>935168
I think the thing most people here are looking for ARE those small spikes before the bomb. That's where they want to make money from, thats where the fun comes from in penny stocks.

>>935138
I'm dumb too m8. bought in at .170

>>934974
You say this but the 6 month history and back has serious loss. What makes you think it'll rise just because it rose today by a very slight, and eventually small amount?

>>935336
>>935336
new thread
>>935336
>>935336