/biz/ - Business & Finance

If someone gets it right youre in for 0.15 ETH, the scraps I have on my binance, go for it anons, try to guess my coin I mean

protip: normies didnt really take notice of it yet

>>9270863
IOTA

>>9270863
>>9270863
mobius?

>>9270897
IOTA LOLE

>>9270907
nope, not even close

hpb

Chainlink

>>9270863
BCH

>>9270938
never heard of it

>>9270942
I understand you anon, but no

>>9270965
EOS

ACHAIN

>>9270960
BitcoinCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASH

BitcoinCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASH

>>9270998
>protip: normies didnt really take notice of it yet

>>9271015
I have no idea what normies are into nowadays, but cool

>>9270863
XRP

>>9270863
ADA my man

>>9271054
Smart guy!

>>9270965
You're probably thinking LINK but XRP is better in everyway

>>9270863

SKY

>>9270863
>"Smart Contract" "Safe" "Scalable" "Decentralized
Pycoin

>>9270891
It's obviously Electroneum, you fags

>>9271013
This

>>9271013
this one got rly close

>>9271054
Hahahahahaha

>>9271068
Nop

>>9271081
I hold some of these, but these are not what I mean

>>9271086
Literal meme de fucking su

>>9271091
Never heard of that one either, ill check it out

Im having way too much fun with this, keep it up!

Bismuth

Rchain

Enigma

>>9271100
I hold ELEC for the inevitable listing but no Electroneum

>>9271104
WTF that just like a... cHemIcs????

>>9271135
doesnt ring a bell

>>9271143
nope

Quantstamp?

Aeternity

Chain LINK

>>9270863
Syscoin
Byteball
LUX

btw, maybe as a disclaimer, I dont require anything truly decentralized, I just mean.. "decentralized". It might be tho

>>9271159
If you don't know Bismuth you are never going to make it.

Qtum???

>>9271160
>>9271175
no

>>9271176
...

>>9271179
no, me likey but no, and no

>>9271194
I know, its this cHeMiCaL eLeMeNt

>>9271198
Close!

>>9271103
Goddamit I really wanted that 0.15 ETH :(

Don't hold any atm.

>>9270891
Zilliqa

>>9271206
Im sorry anon, you made a great guess! Holding ETH now is great, better than BTC imho

>>9271223
see >>9271081

TOMOCOIN

Lisk or lamden or i'm out

>>9270863
Bitcoin.

>>9270863
Ethereum

>>9270863
its eth btw

NEO

Fuck, it's nuls isn't it?

>>9270863
ark

>>9271267
I second this guess. NULS

>>9271236
TOMOONCOIN
but no :(

>>9271239
youre fired!

>>9271251
wow anon hahahahaha

>>9271259
>>9271263
well shit.

>>9271266
checked
im surprised people took this long to suggest this, no

>>9271267
its nulsec for my hunting trips, but not nuls in my crypto crypts

>>9271269
Hahahahahahahaha

HPB

ENIGMA

Truebit

...Its ethereum. Are you people retarded or just trolling?

Ethereum post fork, though, pre fork was not safe.

>>9271292
>well shit.
ETH isn't scalable

qash

>>9271294
>>9271309
both gone

>>9271314
dont know this one

>>9271316
((sharding))
its not eth, I was joking


>protip: normies didnt really take notice of it yet

Another protip required?

AETERNITY

If its MAN and "normies didnt take notice" you're deluded

Qtum or rsk?

>>9270863
Smartlands

>>9271327
nope

>>9271342
nope

>>9271356
im absolutely deluded but youre more deluded for putting money in MAN desu. Bottos Masterrace

>>9271359
qtum already posted, its not rsk

>>9271334
>((sharding))
>proof of concept still
sage

NEM?

OMG is shit

Inb4 it's NOCOIN

Emotiq or NEM?

>>9271368
Already sold bottos pump after masternodes info. MAN will be sold when it hits a proper exchange. Its a normie magnet and sounds like a vaporware project even if its not so it'll do fine. I think bottos has a partnership with hpb btw

Xchng

>>9270863
holo

>>9271383
Nothing will kill ETH, they can at max coexist

>>9271385
>>9271405
nop

>>9271387
it rly isnt, but it also isnt the coin im looking for

>>9271394
I like you, no

>>9271407
I just really dont like what Ive seen with MAN so far, it seems like just another chinese "we are very serious pls invest" coin

>>9271423
no

I should make a list desu, too many people posting duplicates

NEBLIO

>>9271441
Is it Wells Fargo ACH transfers?
Western union pay?
Amazon cash?
Google play gift card?
Which company owns it?
Centralized > decentralized

>>9271441
0xbtc

REQ

Zill pascal or plasma coin?

>>9270863
POWH3D? Idk

NGR

>>9271488
youre fucking kidding me

>>9271437
LOL

>>9271468
no

>>9271480
that is the question, isnt it

>>9271490
none

>>9271491
Isnt REQ some sort of stable coin? Designed to be kept by whales below 0.30cts?

>>9271505
Aw man.

>>9271508
NIG - GER match is gonna be real awesome this year
No

I cant believe this is going so long what the fuck

AELF

>>9270863
achain

>>9271549
No


Guys, heres the list so far.
IOTA
Mobius
HPB
ChainLink
BCH
EOS
AChain
XRP
ADA
Zilliqa
SKY
Pycoin
Electoneum
Bismuth
Rchain
Enigma
Quantstamp
Aeternity
Syscoin
Byteball
Lux
Qtum
Tomo
Lisk
Lamden
BTC
NEO
ARK
NULS
Truebit
qash
Aeternity
RSK
Smartlands
NEM
OMG
Nocoin
Emotiq
Xchng
Holo (hippies)
Neblio
ETH
0xbtc (memes)
Pascal
PlasmaCoin
REQ (whales)
POWH3D
NGR ???
AELF

>>9270863
Unironically Zilliqa

>>9271564
lol nvm

>>9271565
kys fagot

>>9271292
You better believe it.

Go chain?

>>9270863
UTN, pretty easy

>>9271565
Fucking BAT

Cloak or Enj

>>9270863
>Which coin did I just describe, /biz/?
Stellar, XLM

>Smart contact
check
>Safe
check
>Scalable
adding lightning network this year, so double check
>Decentralized
Yeah? More will join in the future so kinda check?
What is truly decentralized in the crypto-world? Nothing

Cardano? Chainspace?

>>9271593
>>9271600
>>9271611
>>9271612
>>9271616

Okay! Okay, Guys!
Enough.

>>9271565
unibright

>>9271622
wtf now I don't even want your .15 ETH

>>9271616
All of this is correct

SKY

Waves

>>9271622
CucumberCoin

just kidding it's BEAN

>>9271666
LOL

ZRX

>>9270863
nebulas

cpx

Calista
Ark
Bts
Xcp
Nxt
Rootstock
Tezos
Waves?

Universa

FLASH

I lied. I lied to you all.
>pic related
Theres no 0.15 ETH.
Theres no coin.
Theres not even an actual person behind this OP.

The whole intent was to find out how many shitcoins exactly drive the ambition to do precisely what Etherum has already done, and you shitlords did a stellar job in delivering. Will ETH be killed? Im thinking no, but all of these coins want into that spot.

If you can reasonably compare blockchain to the internet, then you can reasonably compare the war for the smart contract meme to google vs the rest. Youre betting on whos being google. Theres no need to use every single shitcoin and connect everything with oracles if theres one system established and working like a charm, noone will ever run apps on NEO over ETH in both their current states.

So think carefully where to invest.

This is the list:
0xbtc (memes)
AChain
ADA
AELF
Aeternity
ARK
BAT
BCH
Bismuth
BTC
BTS
Byteball
ChainLink
Cloak
CPX
Electoneum
Emotiq
Enigma
ENJ
EOS
ETH
Go Chain
Holo (hippies)
HPB
IOTA
Lamden
Lisk
Lux
Mobius
Neblio
NEM
NEO
NGR ???
Nocoin
NULS
NXT
OMG
Pascal
PlasmaCoin
POWH3D
Pycoin
qash
Qtum
Quantstamp
Rchain
REQ (whales)
RSK
Rootstock
SKY
Smartlands
Syscoin
Tezos
Tomo
Truebit
Unibright
Universa
UTN
Xchng
XCP
XLM
XRP
Zilliqa
ZRX

AND
>>9271658
>>9271720
Waves

Xmr or qsp?

Prick

>>9271762
:^D

>free money

>>9271743
Well done OP

Its AION

>>9271768
I actually figured this was a sham so you could compile a list of most voted on coin so you would know where to invest. But free money made me try. Interesting.

>>9271802
I actually just wanted a list because every second shilled coin here seems to be the very same godlike blockchain with ""incredible"" ""advantages""

No uniqueness in any of them. Im sick of it.
And thank you

>>9271743
Stratis.
>Alpha smart contracts live may 16th
>ico platform live may 9th
>sidechains
>c# instead of solidity
Cope more op eth is going to be dead end of year.

>>9271847
I figure what we're all looking for is a decentralized banking coin. The government's want something that can be tracked. XRP meets in the middle. The transparent block chain would allow accountability for tax purposes, including deductions to be no problem. Maybe. The vast majority of people who are going to use it for this purpose aren't doing it to buy drugs, guns, and hookers. Also, a massive market cap would make it impossible to manipulate and reduce volatility.

>>9271847

Yeah dude, go fuck yourself.

>>9271743
hahahhaha just because some of these were mentioned doesn't mean they actually matched the criteria you presented. They were blind guesses just to guess because in guessing we lose nothing

>>9271957
XRP is the Spotify to the shit coins' Napster and limewire

>>9271962
sure but the fact that 60 coins get mentioned at all, its all the same shit, nobody cares about any of them

>>9271961
boo hoo

>>9271957
We dont need one. We have decentralized private coins like XMR, they are completely fine. We dont need shit for banking, any token can be pegged to the lowest fiat in existence and get inflated with shittons of volume for that, its just nothing that really needed. Smartcontracts is something else

>>9272021
XRP has smart contracts, and has patterned with ICON for that purpose.

>>9271743
>google
ETH is more like Altavista
ZIL is Google

>>9271743
This is where you are completely wrong.
Just think about the B2B sector.

>>9272048
partnered*

>>9272048
No xrp doesn't have smart contracts. They may in future with codius but they don't right now.

>>9272048
I really dont like XRP anymore. I happen to hold some because I bought them when they were really cheap, but eh..
centralized, deflationary, just weird

>>9272055
bought 100k
thx

unironically zil is one of the few coins I actually HEAR things about from people I trust, I might or might not have some

>>9272059
B2B is pretty much gonna benefit from smartcontracts, Ethereum is firstmover in that, Im not sure if anything can kill it. whole point of the post is how many thing are trying so very hard and end up being undistinguishable. If I knew anon, Id let you guys know instead of being a dick.

>>9272112
Either way, the potential is there. I'm putting my money on it.

ETH
i don't need 0.15 eth though
give it to one of the poor deluded faggots who believe anything else will replace eth

>>9272141
Xrp can freeze the funds of anyone who violates their tos. Why pretend it's a cryptocurrency at that point? Just call it a high growth tech stock because it's operating just like PayPal and banks.

Normie here, how the fuck do I know? How do it's notice of a coin? What does one look for
pls resbond

>>9272215
Gateways, can freeze the IOUs that THEY issue. This is completely independent of Ripple or XRP. XRP cannot be frozen by Ripple. Period.

Read, https://ripple.com/build/freeze/

>>9272367
Ripple asked for jed mcaleb funds be frozen and they were. Ripple can freeze funds. Period.

>>9271743

here's your (you) and your screenshot

>>9272367
And further from your link under individu freeze section.

> (Otherwise, an address might still be able to engage in undesired activity by sending payments through the financial institution.)
How is that not the same sneaky behavior banks do already.

>>9272406
In rippes defense he signed agreement stating that he wouldn't dump his billion xrp at once but instead had a 10000 dollar a week limit. I'm not stoked about that aspect but I'm still betting on it.

>>9271743
>The whole intent was to find out how many shitcoins exactly drive the ambition to do precisely what Etherum has already done, and you shitlords did a stellar job in delivering
> Will ETH be killed?
> Im thinking no
>pic related

>>9272425
>he realized I just wanted the screenshot

de su desu I think the community is so fucked right now with this shit, it had to be done.

Shit id invest in AMB over almost everything in that list and thats saying alot.

>>9272917
implying payments doesnt directly imply xlm is headed for an entirely different market. etherum is the king right now, theres so much shit on and around it, nobody will want to rebuild it if its successful. the worst part about ethereum is the gas

Worst case something kills it or it needs to be forked again to solve all of its shit, best case it either fixes without being forked or outright is ment to die but survives this and next year on life support. But I doubt XLM will be it, even with IBM behind them, It wouldnt make sense for what its trying to be

>>9273056
Ethereum still has its coding as an advantage, but I don't see any viable dapps or DAO's currently.
Payments has, and always will be the real essence of crypto and why Bitcoin was made for. Ethereum helps create a voting aspect to it.
Stellar has a different game strat and consists of trying to be the best of all 4 major cryptos

>>9273101
yeah, but god I wish xlm would die
the entire meme with "bank the unbanked" put me off right from the start, caleb was lucky IBM wanted something to work with.

I dont think payments will look alot different in 2050, I think there is viable models with crypto that will actually generate money, but fiat is gonna largely reign. I see a market with offshore banking, black market activity etc and diluding taxes with BTC and XMR and even Tether that will keep crypto alive. I also believe IoT and Data-Transfers will be something companies could be willing to pay for aswell as customers.
If you look at the Rfid-Tag approach from VeChain, I for one can imagine people scanning these for 0,01cts buying THOR from the network just to see where this stuff came from, if it can reliably validated that is (which technically blockchain should be able to do).

But XLM is literally... just peg the token value to be stable and run it as exchange medium, nothing lost, nothing gained. Theres no reason it should have value, it wont generate any value itself. I just dont trust where its supposed to be going as it stands. Id rather believe in people paying for computing power or decentralized exchanges with currencies based on MW/h for buying power than a medium of exchange holding value based on >actually< nothing. Its supposed to do 1:1 currency swaps that are fast and cheap, nothing else.

>>9273368
>just peg the token value to be stable and run it as exchange medium, nothing lost, nothing gained
It's the same idea of the current financial infrastructure, but instead of fiat cash and outdated banking procedures (which can take days to verify), you can set it up on the Stellar Network which can do it under 5 seconds.

>Theres no reason it should have value, it wont generate any value itself
The idea of Stellar itself is to create a new financial world, which is full of trust and can send all types of assets with each other within 5 seconds
The value is in the Network, which will build over time

What value is the USD dollar?

>>9273494
theres no reason to use XLM for actual payment if it can swap to fiat without any problems in 3-5 seconds at marketprice, theres no reason for xlm to have a high price in any case. I agree its better than conventional banking, I disagree theres a reason to use it for "payment" instead of just swapping fiat back and forth.

Imagine you want to pay litebit.eu for a bunch of bitcoin
>Deploy your USD using the XLM-Network
>Converts to XLM at some fixed rate
>Gets send to litebit.eu's wallet
>Instantly converts to EUR at some fixed rate

You see the problem? Theres no need for stellar to have any sort of value for this to work, as long as people dont pay with XLM directly, you could just peg it to a certain value that nice for accurate conversions and be fine. The only reason it has value is because it can be traded, and somehow people decide they want it for this or that price.

>The value is in the Network
No its not, because any competetion can do exactly the same. Theres no reason for the network to ever cost anything to anyone, theres no reason ultimately to pay some sort of fee, its a revolution in HOW data and information is transmitted, but not a buisness model on its own. Stellar itself does not "produce" anything besides the network it resides in, it does not "create" anything. Nobody will "pay" for anything necessarily in the long run. Which is just where I find it odd it has any value at all.

The problem with Stellar vs USD is that theres an entire economy and globalist supplychains all using USD, while literally nobody uses XLM besides trading crypto -> crypto, crypto -> fiat

I would have a different opinion if my local supermarket accepted xlm, and if the constant need for xlm to rotate would actually create demand, but I dont see why that would happen anytime soon. As far as we are, demand comes exclusively through speculation. theres no way in the world xlm is scarce for its usecase and creates demand through that

>>9270897
this

>>9270863

Is it NANO?

>>9273905
yes anon

give me your ETH adress

>>9273954
xrb_3usp6fojn6rfgxw3w8kjqzhcsm1my55ky75wq4bsxrtmpt8fnf8iub1ce9gb

>>9273980
Noo, I need your public key, the one with 0x

>>9273998
Fuck you scammer

>>9274013
:( but

anon I can only send you if you give the 0x adress
xrb_ is just not valid?

>>9274025
Thats the private key

>>9274058
give him your ETH wallet address retard

0x.................

>>9273670
The point of Stellar was to make it easily accessible for anyone to enter a financial network and trade with all things globally.
The software of Stellar is trying to make it EASY for people to use it in their own infrastructure by allowing this software/hardware aspect do the Payments part of it.

FYI, you don't have to implement your entire business around this, you just have to add yourself onto the Stellar Network.

By utilizing the Stellar Decentralized Exchange, you can literally be an anchor and set up your real life assets on the Stellar Network and exchange it with all other types of assets.
The SDEX also has certain alogrithims in itself that will find the quickest trade through pathing.
So if someone wants to do USD/BTC, and another person BTC/IOTA, the code in the SDEX will find all available trades that can be made between USD/BTC/IOTA and execute it. It is called pathing.

The current strat for Stellar to grow is by the Stellar team creating partnerships with big corporations that will make something useful.
Currently there are many remittance companies taking advantage of Stellar. People trade Euro's to multiple countries.
The volume is ramping up, but there is still much more work to be done

>>9274058
private key cant be this, its hexadecimal, you gave one with _

>>9274074
Sure, but where does stellar gain any value but through scarcity, and why should anyone use the system if scarcity stands in the way of payments? XLM is a utility token, its ""value"" for the network lies in the utility. Either you need to pay to be on the stellar network, or it will be no profit. The token NEEDS to be available for the entire thing to work, and hence you cannot let its price run freely, you cannot allow that theres ever scarcity and somebody has to "wait" to buy stellar.

Which just basically means that the entire value of the thing is pure speculation unless people accept it for goods or services at a fixed rate. itself, forever, at a fixed rate.
the entire money system revolves around fiat being available everywhere and being scarce to some extent. people need to make choices with fiat. for XLM to work, it cannot be scarce, it always needs to be there as medium of exchange.

its as if you mad a taxi service that promises that taxis will readily available at any time for no cost at all and somehow people pay to hoard the taxis to me
I hope you can find some idiocy in that analogy that will make XLM an easy buy for me

>>9274092
oh I thought he wanted my NANO private key

0x5aBD7D9a580743846468a5400C9df8aa9E7E2115

>>9274239
Alright now all I need is your nano password anon

As a match to the private key
So that I can log in
And send a bit of your stuff my way, so I can pay the gas fee, and send you the ETH
got it?
cool

give me the pw

>>9274268
thats ok i give you permission to spend some of my ETH on the gas

>>9274289
I trust that you do anon, I will spend some of your eth so I can send you eth. I will cover your gasfee with eth so you can take some of my eth and just cover my gasfee with eth later when I take some of your eth and will reimburse your gascosts with yet more eth from my wallet in which case of course you will return the favor

>>9274322
If you put your eth on a data stick I'll pay for postage? Or collect if u in PA??

>>9274371
Im just gonna send you a letter with a new wallet and private key and the specified amount in it, then you send me back a package with a Harddrive that has saved the ETH for gascosts. I will then sell the Harddrive including the ETH and pay you with A loan of my BTC of nexo.io. Once the loan defaults they will sell my house, at this point in time you will send me 10k link and a server to the homeless shack I will be residing in, I will find a way to create a node and gain staking profits. Once im a millionare I will come to your house and pay you in Bitcoin Cash, we will have a good laugh, and then I pay you for real in Bitcoin. Then we go and beat up John MacAffee. Deal?

>>9274445
I'm not getting my ETH am i :(

>>9274717
anon the thread died ages ago
I was fucking with you :(

>>9274727
:(
see you tomorrow friend

>>9274864
good luck on your journey anon

you will make it
maybe not with money, idk about that
but you will make "it", always believe in that

>>9274186
I understand your points.
There is an inflation process of 1% (1 billion) added per year to all the holders, so you get compensated for the inflation. 1% is better than most banks

>ts as if you made a taxi service that promises that taxis will readily available at any time for no cost at all and somehow people pay to hoard the taxis to me
For your analogy, you are taking the goal of Stellar and discarding the other great things that make it more than just a simple utility.
For starters, buying XLM is not necessarily an investment. However, buying things on the Stellar Network might be worth it. You see the ignorance?
The great things of Stellar is what it can provide, the more XLM you have, the more power you have in the Stellar Network. You can create tokens on the SDEX from 1 Lumen, but that doesn't mean everyone will start trading for your shit token

Are you a company? Reputable business? What is your token? What is your LinkedIn?
It looks like you are downplaying the underlying impact that Stellar is trying to create with the Stellar Network and its software.
With Quorums and trust lines, you are essentially creating a public ledger for all assets, and forcing people to play by rational and just laws. To be transparent and helpful to the community. If you don't do these things, then no one will deal with you.
Just like in real life.

>>9275119
Interesting. Thank you. I will look more into it!