/biz/ - Business & Finance

*blocks your path*

>>8746990
>Say children are dying.
>People mock you.
>'This is about getting rich, not about saving kids.'
>Children continue to die.

>>8746990
>realize its a scam
>contemplate leaving everyone you know and going far away
>look into details of moving far away
>FOMO all in back to crypto

>has a blockstream t-shirt on
>I-I-I'm n-n-not r-r-representing b-bb-blockstream here

Does Roger unironically think his puppetry works here?

>>8746990
Why everybody is focused on this moment? This chinese corecuck was destroyed by Ver, watch the full video.

The reason corecucks are focusing on this moment is because they dont want you to see the full story.

>>8747996
I don't think intellectuals care about convincing /biz/, reddit, or telegram users to pump their currency.

>>8748092
Roger stop posting here.

If I was a corekek I wouldn't be showing this video to newfags. It's basically a video of a stuttering low-t faggot getting obliterated by Roger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSbPz4g9rZQ

>>8748128
Enjoy crecuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSbPz4g9rZQ

>>8748175
In 2002, Ver pleaded guilty after selling explosive firecrackers, marketed as Pest Control Report 2000, on eBay, which the U.S. Department of Justice described as "dealing in explosives without a license", and he was sentenced to 10 months in federal prison.[5][8][14][15] The Missouri company, Max 2000 Inc. that had manufactured Pest Control Report 2000, agreed to cease selling the agricultural firecrackers in January 2003 after selling more than one million of them.[16] The company had been selling the product illegally to fireworks wholesalers and retailers from early 1998.[17] Pest Control Report 2000 had been used nationally to control infestations of birds. The explosives were banned because they could cause serious injuries or death.[17]

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>>8748207
>literal corecuck who has Roger copypasta on hand for any thread
Roger was more successful than you selling illegal fireworks years ago than you are right now in crypto.

>>8748157
>>8748175

4:40
>If you want an analogy it's like the gold standard where everything is backed by gold
>Bitcoin on the sidechain, bitcoin on lightning, you can always cash back out and get that asset

Holy shit, this just destroys the original idea of bitcoin. Lightning is a lot kikeier than I imagined.

>>8748157
>>8748175
This.

There is no way that a person could possibly be so retarded, to think Bcore and Cuckstream will survive.

Unless, they are getting paid on top of their part-time job at Zumiez.

>>8748157
Holy shit, chink was utterly destroyed...

>>8748375
Even if lightning solved the routing problem (it wont) the full idea would still be laughable. The video proves that blockstream deliberately blocked the bitcoin revolution so they could earn money collecting lighing chanel fees.

Who is bitcoin judas?

BABY BOOMERS ARE DIEING

>>8748462
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>>8748375
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>>8748258

DYING BABIES NEED BCASH

FROM A GUY WHO SOLD ILLEGAL EXPLOSIVES

>>8748522
>SOLD ILLEGAL EXPLOSIVES
* - fireworks

>>8748522
>Calling fireworks illegal explosives

>>8748640
>>8748624

From the guy who sold bombs

Any publicity is good publicity. Thanks for making the thread anon

>>8748522
>>8748706
The funny thing is, you think that trolling makes us mad.
We're actually not responding to you because of you, or because we took your bait. We're responding because every neutral reader will see that corekeks are all braindead retards, and us cashies are trying to have civil conversation.
We're converting hundreds of silent readers and you're helping. When btc goes to 0 and you're crying in your mom's basement, remember that you contributed to your shitcoin's quick demise.

>>8748157
holy shit what an embarrassment, that chink got BTFO. just sold 100k BTC

Jesus this is brutal

corecucks on suicide watch

>only rebuttal is r-r-roger's s-shill

>>8748866
At first I though that the blockstream takeover was a conspiracy to FUD bitcoin. Later I realized that it was not a conspiracy, blockstream admits publicly that they only work for they privative solutions over crippled bitcoin.

https://twitter.com/BTCNewsUpdates/status/981185639910641670

>>8748258
shouldn't a counterargument be at the top of the pyramid instead of "using quotes"?

A lot of people dont realise roger is completely right about the babies, if you think its a cringey overstatement it means you dont understand how central banks financially repress people

All war, poverty and degeneration of society is caused by currency debasement. Bitcoin before blockstream destroted it was the first invention that can make people immune from keynesian money printing

If you are a paid shill you are selling out your family and future generations for trivial short term gain. Whatever you receive to shill against decentralised peer to peer cash is nothing compared to the wealth you would have if we had worldwide adoption. Its subhuman to do anything to stop the adoption of crypto

>>8749011
Counterargument only backs up your proposition but doesnt invalidate the opposing view.

>>8748207
Sounds like my kind of guy. These corecucks don’t seem to understand what the “bitcoin community” even IS

>why do these stupid gaijin care about other people's children
>can't they just concentrate on making money like the rest of us instead of their little causes?

>>8748522
>HE SOLD ILLEGAL STUFF WHY DON'T YOU HATE HIM?
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF CURRENT YEAR CRYPTO

Utterly and comprehensively BTFO.

I used to be on the fence about this core/cash thing but after watching roger earnestly destroying that disingenuous no argument faggot publicly I have to say I am now part of BCH GANG

>>8748375
Yeah, this is why I prefer BCH. That said I hold equal amounts of both because I don't let my values interfere with my investments.
>>8748462
Winklevoss twins, they actively pursued getting more regulation on crypto.

>>8749124
I know right? Who ARE these people?

>>8749078
If a negation of a statement is true then the original statement is false. At the same time an argument can be correct for given set of data in the hypothesis but that data might me insufficient or inaccurate. Refuting the central point forces you to work within a constricted set or rules. Like arguing that god doesn't exist and only having the Bible,and established Dogma as possible reference. If you fail, you contribute at perpetrating an invalid reasoning.

>>8749194
At this moment if there was a flippening BCH would be more than x10 in value. I personally prefer to slightly overweight BCH just in case the same people who made btc great decides to make BCH great again.

>>8749300
Not necessarily, there may be reasons for scaling on chain and off chain, in this case one must argue why it was a bad idea not increasing the blocksize even if there are possible off-chain solutions.

As you said, if you cant deny the existence of God based on the biblical reference then you cannot prove the opposite. You could claim why you think otherwise but not refuting the opposing argumentation.

>If a negation of a statement is true then the original statement is false.
If you prove a negative then you refute the central point, counterargument refers to non opposing statements.

>>8746990
https://www.strawpoll.me/15435277
https://www.strawpoll.me/15435277
https://www.strawpoll.me/15435277
https://www.strawpoll.me/15435277

>>8746990
honestly from a layman it looks and sounds like ver is an autistic scumbag lacking self awareness, but is right

what are babies going to do with bcash?

>>8749616
Looks the same from a non-layman's view, but I wouldn't hate on Roger, he's been through a lot, still became a billionaire and he's following his passion.
He's a top 1% human being despite being awkward from time to time.

>>8746990
>tfw you realize Samson isn't fit to work a McDonald's cash register

Ver made this guy look like a clown. He couldn't keep up with the debate and was just throwing buzzwords around

>>8749661
I'm still shocked that he agreed to a debate, Andreas is being smart by hiding like .the pussy he is.
Last blockstream employee that Roger debated got fired weeks after getting buttraped in the debate.

>>8749650
Probably grow up and tell there parents how retarded they were to invest in tulips

>>8749561
Isn't it odd that 88% is really similar to the loss in initial investment in crypto

I'm glad to see as prices have completely tanked the newfaggotry core kike cocksuckers have left.

>>8748798
as a neutral eth maximalist this thread's making me think btc is going full-on kike with the LN shit thing. wtf is the point then? idk im dumb i only know about eth

>>8749788
All of us cashies caught the ETH pump, because we were frustrated with kikestream at the time.
ETH+BCH are the only blockchains that need to exist. There's decent tokens, too, but when it comes to blockchains, all except BCH/ETH should be worth 0 desu

>>8749142
This. I never really bothered to take a side but after listening to the debate, holy shit. Fucking subhuman chink insectoids only thinking about momentary gains. And he has the audacity to be smug about it. He can't even look Roger in the eye when speaking. Pathetic. I'm really considering going heavily into bch now.

lol paid shills even in this thread. Roger is one cringey teenager.

>>8749353
I consider a flippening to be very unlikely because the majority of people in crypto now don't care about the original goals of crypto. I wish this would change but realistically I don't see this happening.

>>8749905
Did you watch the debate? You have to be an idiot to think that roger didn’t utterly destroy this corecuck faggot. No one has to pay me to see that.

>>8749905
More like the inefficiency of kike-funded corekek shills. Sorry boys, hate for core is the natural state of this forum, Adam Back is running out of money.

>>8749788
Some of ETH's scaling solutions are similar to LN.

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>>8750000

Digits confirm BCH is the cash revolution

it doesn't sound good with some main entity "Blockstream" in charge of the bitcoin development, wtf?

>>8749054

This is libertarian bullshit that completely ignores evolutionary psychology. Please explain murderous intergroup chimpanzee conflicts and their relation to currency debasement please.

>>8746990
The cartel can only afford pajeets? OP is fucking lazy.

>>8750129
Winklevoss twins pursued regulatory approval of crypto so it wouldn't get shutdown in the US. The deal they made behind the scenes was to make it cripple bitcoin for the longterm in return of no real action being taken against it. This is how we got to where we are.

>>8750129
Here you go
>>8750136
It's not libertarian bullshit if it is reflected by reality. All the stats show that economic freedom leads directly to reduced infant mortality. A nice example is the industrial revolution. Yeah, kids working in factories isn't something we like to hear about, but the fact is that child deaths under the age of 10 reduced significantly during this time.

In all nations that have experienced economic freedom and with it economic growth, infant and child mortalities drop SIGNIFICANTLY. The first step to economic freedom is have control over your money, and requires that money to be easy to spend. Bitcoin (cash) brings that.

>>8750136
How is that remotely a relevant or intelligent point to make? You’re an idiot through and through get that checked out lol

>>8750201
kids working in factories just speaks to the retarded ignorance of history of today, and the decadence we enjoy

kids had to work in their families anyway, and if they were orphans they would starve

there is no reason to assume working in a factory at the time was especially heinous, and the government banning things like child labor only happens because it was possible economically to do so

imagine hunters and gatherers all the way up through agrarian societies fully implementing social justice laws, you cannot. It is only in the face of extreme decadence that these things become reasonable and normalized

>>8750180
why wouldn't that happen with bitcoin cash?

>>8750136
one could easily make the argument that impediment of the economy leads to more suffering

taken to the extreme, freezing industry to the victorian era would also freeze advances in things like medicine

government regulation, debasement of currencies, and anything in general that kills long term growth leads to suffering and death, indirectly

where ver is wrong is that people like africans are capable of implementing libertarian ideas, let alone whole societies

>>8750270
They're ancap idealists, most of whom fled to tax havens.

>>8747916
Great pr move by core supporters.

>>8750374
while I get the feeling there's organized shilling in this thread, I honestly only hold shitcoins trying to catch a moon mission, hoping to soon deposit enough to buy one btc to just hold..

so I'm really a newbie and kinda always thought btc was a bit more freedom-y than some big "Blockstream" in control of stuff? is that satoshis vision?
however with all the things about Roger Ver maybe bitcoin cash isn't his vision either, but I have to say it sucks that the crypto community is divided

>>8750453
Ver is a fucking sperg but he does actually want bitcoin to follow through on what everyone originally wanted. The problem is that most people in bitcoin now aren't ancaps, that's why you see retarded shit like crypto developers who are literal communists, why you see people actually advocating paying taxes, and others acting horrified by drugs being bought and sold with crypto.

>>8750488
Like with all communists, eventually they will be out competed. The only way they can force people to use their inferior product in a medium like the internet is through sustained censorship and propaganda.

Maybe it will work out long term, but I suspect that strategy burns more money than it generates.

>>8750203

>He has never heard of HBD

Good luck with your vapor faggot, you'll be the one holding the bags