/biz/ - Business & Finance

REMINDER TO DRUMPF C.UCKS

Hillary people bought in 2009 after they realized that Obama-Hillary polices would lead to long term growth and a recovery from the Republican recession.

Drumpf voters bought in December 2017, because Drumpf voters are fucking retards who listen to conspiracy videos and jerk off to Animated Japanese school girls so they missed out on a DECADE of growth but since DRUMPF told them to buy in they FOMO'd sold their meth equipment and bought stocks at all time highs

GET FUCKING REKT RURAL RETARDS LMAO

>>8745606
Buy Mondolez interational

Wait, people actually bought cloudera?

>>8745628
This.
We all would've been rich as fuck if Hillary won.

>>8745624
correct the vast majority of people are trash, they are why we succeed. Most people in your bracket yoru probably in your 20s rack up a bunch of CC debt, so not only ar they not saving any money and making % gains off that, their CC costs are rocketing upwards at 5x your % gains which pushes them months behind retirement every week of their life. You will succeed because you are here

>>8745662
oh svetlana

>>8745628
NO THIS CANT BE HAPPENING

HOW DO THE CLINTONS ALWAYS WIN

TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMP

>>8745628
reminder that you are in the wrong thread

>>8745628

>Drumpf

It's gotten out of hand.
Hide all politics posters. Report all politics posters. Do not reply to /pol/ posters

>>8745700
I already hid all of them, they're just shit posting at this point. I don't know why everyone else didn't hide them.

>>8745678
Unless of course I get killed in a terrorist attack before I get the chance to cash in any of my investments. I do live in London after all, so it's only a matter of time really

>>8745700
Sorry, this post got ever so slightly /pol/, but I promise it won't happen again

>>8745700
its /leftypol/.
as far as im concerned, two can play at this game.

>>8745731
This. Anyways what are you guys hoping to close out today? I'm trying to get out of CZZ.

>>8745731
/leftypol/ can be spotted from a mile away, thank god for filters.

>>8745747
I was planning on making a lump index purchase today but I did my taxes and its looking like I owe a couple thousand more than I was expecting

My profit taker triggered on UVXY. I need something to buy before the end of the day.

>>8745628
dude, we all know Trump is a retard, but enough of "drumf" shit

>>8745762
I just went all in on TVIX, the volatility is the only thing I believe will be constant.

Where my /hounds/ at? /Dogs of the Dow/ here
JNJ, IBM, VZ, GS
buy it

>>8745758
"fuck donald trump and white people" is a good sign to just let it go. if you wanna see something really entertaining go to their fucking thread and read their DOW is crashing thread. deluded fucks are so certain they know how the market works from all their years of reading marx and stirner and listening to zizek sniffle. shits pretty funny

>>8745788
bottom of huge cup and handle on XOM?

>>8745789
huh?
Trump is factually crashing the market through purposely lying about amazon and stupidly getting on China's nerves over trade shit.

is anyone actually confused by this?

>>8745628
>mfw I wanted trump elected just to spite leftists
>mfw now a leftist is mad because of it
Worth it.

>>8745789
It's like dealing with my 7 year old nephew, they should be handled in the same manner lol

>>8745773
Fuck you Closet Drumpfer. I can see you cucks from a mile away. Based HILLDAWG would never have gotten into this PATHETIC mess. SHE would have already won the Cold War by now and we would have victory in the trade war with China. DRUMPF is unqualified and mentally weak and physically feeble and so are the rural retards who support him. He has no respect from the FBI CIA or the Pentagon because he's a fat little faggot unliek HILLDOG who would have inspired RESPECT from the intelligence community and she would have instileld FEAR into the hearts of America's enemies.

>>8745810
What's your portfolio bro? What stocks you investing in?

>>8745826
you throw your 7 yo nephew out of helicopters? that seems a little harsh anon

>>8745834
Hey what's your portfolio bro? What stocks you investing in?

>>8745809
I never touch XOM
It looks like a good buy but Idk anything about the gas/oil sectors

>>8745840
>>8745863
dont anon. unless your just another one playing opposition against them to derail, in which case, fuck off

>>8745857
kek

>>8745840
im winning just fine, that's besides the point.

>>8745810
I can't say for sure, because I'm no expert. It seems like he's purposely lowering the stock market so he and his buddies can buy in, then he'll raise the hell out of it by lifting the tariff, and whatever else he can do to raise it (because other than the tariff I really don't know).

>>8745863

>>8745628
You really won't stop until we are all equally poor, equally rightless and you've turned ll of China into a sweatshop making buttplugs will you? You cream for kensian economics, knowing full well the inevitable outcome of icreasing money supply with the example of the Japanese 80s crash staring you in the face and yet you still think the most important things in the world are socialism and homosexuals dying of aids.

You seem to despise people from a rural background, that's where your food comes from. You seem to think that your views are more informed than theirs, they are not. You are utterly brainwashed.

>>8745662
>We all would've been rich as fuck if Hillary won

You'll never know but QE could never continue and neither could the trade imbalance with China.

I'm a cryptofag but why are these generals so comfy?

I'll be damned we may finish this day green.

>>8745628
Gonna go troll /ptg/ with this now, thanks

>>8745809
Looks like it hasn't even attempted a recovery from the earlier correction. Gasoline prices have been going up which should help their revenue. I suspect this is a good buy.

>>8745628
>>8745628
>Obama-Hillary polices would lead to long term growth

Long term debt, mountains of it.

GREEN FOR THE DAY

TRADE WARS ARE EASY TO WIN

BASED TRUMP, PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP

I called this early this morning, big drop, closes even

Oh fuck, another rally. Don't miss the dip! BUY BUY BUY

>>8745920
because people try to post with actual substance besides just repeating "blockchain tech" "undervalued" "smart contracts"

just about every single crypto thread is an echo chamber about a shit coin saying it's better than some other shit coin but really they're all just shit.

Stocks are attached to actual business that create product and actually earn money. There are different types of business out there that do different things and make money doing those things. crypto is just alllllll hype.. all of it, its hard to keep the hype going with nothing new

>>8745920
less pajeets as theyre all on contract to shill crypto, not stock

>>8745918
>You really won't stop until we are all equally poor, equally rightless and you've turned ll of China into a sweatshop making buttplugs will you?
of course not, hes a commie. were being raided these past few days. dont bite

>>8745957
me and you both bud. looks like a strong close barring any last minute bog smash

>dow 24,000
leftypol is crying when it goes down 200 lel

>>8745952

How is this any different than Trump?

Based green day
God bless America

>>8745920
its just an illusion, we're all retards here too

Daily Reminder

>>8745990
crypto is a pump and dump. Anyone behind the push to viral market it is gone now and it's just the dupes left hoping it rallies to 40k.

>he fell for the crash meme

The dow has to eventually go 11000. It should have been allowed to truly correct in 2009 and incompetent financial companies and others let go to the wall.

bears b-btfo hhahaha...

Can this thread not become a political circle jerk about what ifs, and can we get back to the business at hand? We are trying to get in the front of the wave of what ever the Bog's are doing so we can make some money. What is there next move, and where is the deep value for great gains going into tomorrow.

>>8746067
big 5, always

>tfw bought the VOOV dip and now made 3 percent gains today while market is still red

>>8746000
>How is this any different than Trump?

Modern partisan US politics is pretty irrelevant to underlying global and US economic systemic issues. Recession has a necessary function in free markets, it flushes crap, scams, badly run companies and obsolete businesses. Deferring this necessary process just build up more crap to flush and that's what has been happening for a decade.

>>8746067
Don't worry, as long as I hold TVIX the bogs will ensure the market grows and stays green. You are safe anon.

Up 1.19% so far

>>8746033
Justice doesn't exist. Native americans are still drinking themselves to death on shit reservations.

The technology improvements across the board are absolutely amazing and will continue to drive economic growth and stock market growth. We are so bad at utilizing tech advancements that there is a 5-10 year lag on when it hits industry. So we are still looking at serious growth.

You can't look at the advancements in science/tech and not realize the stock market is the place to be.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

BASED GOOGLE
>they didnt buy at 999 for the free money bounce that always happens

>>8746033
if were going down im saying bottom at 19kish on the DOW. but it may straighten itself out before then. im just gonna be patient before i decide its all clear. theres a lot of moving parts right now.

>>8746067
im just gonna focus on what ive been doing this week, which is trying to play options/sell calls/swing off of volatility. might be time for the VIX to snap back down to a reasonable level. atleast thats what im banking on right now. didnt expect that huge gap down tomorrow

>>8746135
*huge gap down today

MOTHERFUCKER ALL I WANTED WAS TO BUY LOW TOMORROW WITH MY PAYCHECK

>>8746063
>>8746067

Its going down and sideways for a decade. This is a temporary day rally. The down will be exacerbated by the usual selloff in may. None o this is particularly down to Trump, its own to QE and the Fed. Greenspan was warning that we are in an unprecedented era of financial market dysfunction a year ago. If you have debts and don't have at least 10000 dollars or euros in savings you are fucking insane to be gambling on stocks or crypto

I'm boarder line crying and very emotional rn. Whoever did the last thread, thank you for putting the hedgefund in the pasta. I know it's a small thing, but actually contributing something to /smg/ makes my life worth living as sad as that is.
Love you goys <3

>>8746167
Schiff and people who think like your post are fundamentally wrong. It's not that the government or markets are amazing or healthy. It's just that technology is so good it makes up for the downsides.

>>8746167

we already went sideways for like 15 years before this. if we go 10 more the gains after will be truly biblical. odds are you're just a retard and big gains are in the cards for the next 10 years

>>8746186
this is what a decade of 4chan does to your brain. leave now before its too late folks.

>>8746186
When are you finally gonna take fiat payment into the hedgefund?
I want to put in like $10 for a laugh, but I don't care about any crypto.

>>8746111
piggybacking off of this, the idea would be to get into shit like AI and biotech stuff yeah? Robots, living longer biologically etc

>>8746202
>leave now before its too late folks.
>leave now
>leave
You don't get to leave 4chan, once you realize that you should probably leave, it's too late.

>>8746186
Where do I sign up?

>>8746221
Anything tech, out of anything traditional. Also it means get out of autos.

>>8746221
The entire tech sector is still pretty solid in general, just use fundamentals like pe to gauge if something is overvalued or not. Avoid social media though (FB,TWTR etc), they are slowly dying.

>>8746198
this, just look at the monthly chart, one of the longest consolidations every, and we JUST broke out

the dow could easily reach 50K before the real next bear market but retards are talking crash when the economy is actually GROWING for the first time in like a decade.

>>8746260

you

>>8746258
yeah nothing to do with social / mobile based. You want technology not userbase #s

>>8746202
My mind was already autistic, this place just magnified my retardation

>>8746206
That's a good idea! I'll set up a paypal. I need to set up a minimum investment though, $10 would be a pain to manage then send back after 6 months.

>>8746248
https://autismincorporated.org/

ICLN doing relatively well lately. Strange to see it green on a day when MGC is red.

>>8746195
>>8746167
i kinda agree with both of you. i think a lot of this has to do with global power shifting behind the scenes, and definitely most of the recent action has been because of the FED. but i also believe that the markets are awash in newer more profitable corps and tech that have been overlooked for the past ten years in favor of speculative bullshit social media stocks with P/Es of +30. once things calm down and these idiots who jump whenever leave, things will calm down and well be able to price things in a little better.

i actually really want a good crash so that i can get a decent entry point. feel like a fool going long in all these companies who have been on ten year bullruns. its like i have no choice but to buy the top, as i havent been in the game long enough

>>8746289
>tfw comfy is bernie madoff

you need a lock up period too

>>8746289
yeah set a paypal ill send money in for the luls

I don't think anyone here follow this stuff

https://www.fooddive.com/news/monsanto-invests-125m-in-gene-editing-startup-pairwise-plants/520109/

USDA just de-regulated CRISPR plants, even implying they can hit shelves with no labeling.

Trump admin can also give USDA regulation over edited animals which would be unbelievable for a host of things from designer pets to meat products.

>>8746317
>this may be misheard

You need a lock up as in hold the funds at least a year so your funds dont suddenly delplete by rapid impatient investors

>>8745952
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-03/asian-stocks-set-to-climb-treasuries-yen-tumble-markets-wrap

>>8746111
>The technology improvements across the board are absolutely amazing and will continue to drive economic growth and stock market growth. We are so bad at utilizing tech advancements that there is a 5-10 year lag on when it hits industry. So we are still looking at serious growth.


I beg to differ. The post cold war dividend and technology boom of the 90s was amazing, mobile telephony and data, the internet, a computer in every home, instant messaging, contact lists, streaming video, search. Great. All that was in place, including mobiles with email, touchscreens and mobile devices with e.g web browsers by 1999. What we have had since for nearly two decades its technological stagnation, FANGS are NOT technological companies but effectively advertising agencies with intricate tax evasion accounting that produce nothing. There has been almost zero technological innovation. Facebook does NOTHING that the likes of AOL or CompuServe was not doing in 1996, search webcrawlers, text to speech, voice recognition and VR again has not advanced in any meaningful sense since the 1990s. You seem to believe something that is actually fundamentally false. Indeed my analysis reflects a collapse in productivity growth that exists because of the complete failure of any worthwhile technological innovation to occur in two decades. Its hard to see what changed but it did. If you think twitter, facebook, apple, google or amazon, netflicks are amazing technological innovators then you are living on a marketing lie, promulgated by those companies themselves which are very much part of the problem as are the equally spurious financial markets surrounding them, driving zombie corporations pumping their stock price via cheap credit, downsizing, disastrous experiments in outsourcing an stock buybacks.

How many people on /biz are actually students with student loans that no sane market should have granted them spending it on gambling on crypto while they study for worthless degrees?

What you guys think on two fresh IPOs - Dropbox and Spotify?

This is an example why both left and right /pol/ are fucking cancer. You guys have to shit up every board, thread, and general quality discussion with your shit flinging and memes. You view the whole fucking world through this retarted lense of black cocks and Trump and Jews. You are the niggers of 4chan, scratch that, you're the niggers of the entire internet.

>>8746341
Worth less than actual garbage, I look forward to all the soyboys that lose half their life savings investing in that trash.

>>8745990
You're going to be so JUST'ed in 5 years when blockchain/crypto tech is running literally everything you use LMFAO. Anyone who owns a good amount of crypto right now will be a billionaire, while you stock fags will be sucking dicks in a back alley somewhere so you can buy heroin to numb the pain of thinking of all the money you missed out on.

>>8746341
>What you guys think on two fresh IPOs - Dropbox and Spotify?

utter garbage. classic pump and dump material

>>8745834
(You) had me going there for a second. Well larp'ed friend.

>>8746339
Interesting post PT. I'm not arguing with your points. In fact I agree with them. My point still stands about the technology being too good for a shitty market to hold it back.

I'm not saying utilization is good, that we are performing optimally, or that it will be done intelligently.

I'm saying the simple powers of technology are too great even for a dysfunctional society to not benefit.

>>8746339
That's because FANG are over-valued meme stocks, see >>8746303

They don't represent the tech industry, but because of their huge size they end up weighing heavily on the nasdaq and dragging the entire sector down as a result. But there are still a lot of real value buys in tech, you just got to look for them again rather than just be lazy and ride the FANG meme like everyone did for the last few years.

>>8746359
I haven't laughed this hard in a long time at this level of delusion. Thank you pajeet.

>>8746282
tech anon, what do you think of SQ? they seem to be the go to for every goddamn store i walk into that accepts cards nowadays. im personally looking for an entry under 40, but i have no doubt that that company could soar. any payment company, especially one with online coverage, and the ability to exchange crypto is gonna be super profitable. and to my knowledge, they already are.

>>8745834
Putin ran rings around Obama and Clinton. Sadly,

>>8745990
>>8746359
Even your stock trading websites/apps will use the blockchain tech that I bought years ago. I literally cannot wait to come here and make threads to rub it in your faces, if this website still exists (it will probably be replaced by a decentralized, tokenized, blockchain version made by someone else)

>Huge trade war dark clouds approaches
>Markets shrug it off.

THIS HAS HAPPENED ALREADY. The markets fell a little, then recovered after because 'we still talking, it doesnt look that bad'.
Then the bogs make the call.

I assure you its going to happen again.

Can anybody explain why stuff like Micron and Sunrun have a P/E of under 6, and are mooning? Thats way too low, but why does it take so long for the market to get to where it should be? Surely everybody should be buying up to a P/E of probably 15-25 depends on the sector but under 6 is WAY too low and an OBVIOUS buy, I got in on both of them from here and am up money but Im just curious why its so easy to find those with ridiculosuly stupid PE ratios

>>8746394
You're not laughing as hard as I will when I am a billionaire in 5 years. I'll be drinking my coffee one morning, after fucking my 11/10 wife the previous night, and a thought will flash through my head for a second of your post. I will lose my absolute shit. And then forget about you forever, as will the rest of the world.

>>8746111
You are forgetting the consequences of centrally planning rates and access to capital. The consequences are zombie companies.

Take VZ. VZ is worthless in normal rates environment. So is most other infrastructure.

To support all this dead wood, to actually prop up this market requires fiscal stimulus. Without constant stimulus, this will all sell off.

The other thing you intentionally don't mention is stock buybacks. That means the companies would rather prop up their earnings and stock prices by reducing float. Event at the expense of borrowing to do so. Again zombie companies.

When you have the QE rally, it's all zombies buying their stocks. Imagine the crutches coming off.

For bank to invest into development and risk requires taking risk. Why would they do that if they can ride the money train? Who gets funded first? Charlatans or financial shady schemes that guarantee returns vs risk of investing in something that may or may not pan out.

If your thesis is right, you should invest in venture capitalists, not this market. This market is more about financial engineering than anything else.

>>8746375
I unironically stand by everything I said ITT

>>8746421
Trade wars help everybody though. If America can't sell China shitty cars built from Chinese steel does that hurt America or China?

>>8746392
>Interesting post PT. I'm not arguing with your points. In fact I agree with them. My point still stands about the technology being too good for a shitty market to hold it back.

Thanks. There is no substantive technological innovation and has not been any for nearly two decades and productivity growth reflects that. 2000-2010 there was the lingering aftereffect of the 1980-2000 technological innovation but that cease a decade ago. The very nature of the technology industry changed during the dot.com boom and it was NON technology companies representing themselves as such that started getting given he capital. This has continued. See twitter. Look at its market cap. Its fucking nothing, useless and the only technology it reflects was around in 1994

>>8746449
>You're not laughing as hard as I will when I am a billionaire in 5 years.
LMAO stop anon I can't breath, I know this is a larp but i'm loving it.

>>8746317
>>8746319
>>8746332

I want to switch it to a one year hold period, but I said 6 months before so I'm not sure what to do.

>>8746476
both

>>8746453
>To support all this dead wood, to actually prop up this market requires fiscal stimulus. Without constant stimulus, this will all sell off.

This. For us all to have an economic chance there has to be a severe global recession that purges badly run crap and poor investors from the free markets with no rescue for them

>>8746412
dont be so smug. i actually agree with you that blockchain tech is going to be used quite widely. but sit down for a second and ponder exactly how many times the first iteration of ANY type of major teh was the model that then became the industry standard. i know, iknow, but alt coins, but many of them are just forks off of main chains etc, and most of them have absolutely no real world value, or marketplace to be used on. take a look at what happened during the dotcom bubble. bunch of super awesome, great looking businesses ZOMG BUY BUY BUY, then the speculative money flow died, and everything fell of a cliff. at the end, only a handful remained, and grew to dominate their whole sectors.

what im saying, is that while you are right, you bought into an important tech years ago, that does NOT necessarily equate to you being an insta billionaire, even if blockchain tech takes off in the way we both expect it to.

>>8746067
just buy BGFV and hold high desu

>>8746448
because credit suisse (whale) pumped its shitcoin (sunrun)

>>8746509
Yeah, people forgot that 2009 was political purge. All the retards who made bad decision are still there making bad decisions now. That's why this looks a lot like all the other failed pumps and dumps on ever bigger scale. It's the same people doing the same shit that worked before. No consequences to bad decision making. The result is zombie market buying back shares.

>>8746453
>>8746453
I think you misunderstand reality. You are looking at things as functional entities in a system. The things you are mentioning exist as an illusion. It's almost a waste of time to parse them or think about them.

The machinations of economists, the fed, etc are illusory. The progress of humanity is not because of such things. You are essentially talking about random meaningless micro-games.

Tech will still do good and any such healthy company you invest in will eventually become a mega-zombie with 80% of employees contributing nothing.

The way to invest in such a market is to pick the trends of the future, put money into them, take it out of the zombie stocks that have a runway full of debris to the tech over 10 years, and move on.

Things to invest in
- Cheapest possible land available, location doesn't matter.
- Technology companies, amd, intel, nvidia, illumina are my favorites.

That's a pretty simple roadmap.

>>8746514
Blockchain tech has yet to actually produce any productivity dividend to anywhere except the black economy (drugs, prostitution, money laundering, ransom, blackmail etc)

>>8746476
i don't think ive even seen an american car when I visited hong kong

>>8746398
Putin got away with a lot because he knew USA was gun shy after Desert Storm 2: afghani boogaloo. Political suicide to try and put more troops on the ground while also backing out of 2 failed conflicts.

>>8746449
>>8746412
>>8746359
you do realize most people here do trade cryptos right? I was giving a reason of why these threads are more comfy then crypto threads, not sure if you even read that far...

>>8746582
>All the retards who made bad decision are still there making bad decisions now. That's why this looks a lot like all the other failed pumps and dumps on ever bigger scale. It's the same people doing the same shit that worked before. No consequences to bad decision making. The result is zombie market buying back shares.

It just makes the necessary economic purge via depression/recession even deeper. If we don't get that we just get stagnation. If we get that we can get back to innovation and growth. That toilet has to flush. QE and bailouts were a disastrous mistake

>>8745633
i unironically bought a pack of oreos after april fools

what does that say about me?

>>8746503
Announce a cutoff date for the current policy.

I'm green! Bears eternally BTFO. Bulls back baby!!!

Power hour looking like it might be a sell off..

>>8746604
>Putin got away with a lot

Because the state department was more concerned with promoting abortion and domestically discussing transsexual toilets than it was with pursuing US interests. Ukraine and Syria were a fucking disaster under Clinton to stabilise lybia.

>>8746602
Not even a Tesla?

>>8746589
Are you for real? Tech is hail Mary for the banks. Fucking MSFT gets money lol. Come on. These are the same people who went broke a number of times doing stupid shit doing the same stupid shit. It's not micro shit. It's banks acting as distribution of funding and they can't do that because they suck at it, because for banks its not worth it. It's a conflict inside the system. Sort of like socialism, but with control of rates and funding. It's the same results. It stopped being salvageable a while ago. Japan is case in point. Unlike Japan we waste way more money on this shit thus becoming more rapidly insolvent.

You can't expect proven losers to perform is the point. This needs stimulation to just not come to grinding halt.

>>8746462
great i give you a big red star for effort. ill stop by the commune and let you guys know when the REAL crash is coming, i promise. just fuck off till then. theres no need for this shit. youre just sitting here manually spamming our general like a buncha scrubs. if ya want to play that game, id bet we have about as many unique posters in this general as you do on your board after that recent schism. but neither of us need that shit, its just childish as fuck.

>>8746682
>he bought the dip, dump it all right before close

Did you forget about your breakfast playing this game, Anon?

>>8746693
HOLY FUCKING SHIT lol DRumpf is pulling out of Syria right fucking now as we speak ceding it to Iran and Putin like a little faggot bitch meanwhile Putin sells mountains of shit to Saudi Arabia and Turkey he fucking called for a summit with Putin a week after Putin gassed the fucking UK which is something Obama never fucking did at all. Not only that he's going to host a summit with fucking Kim Jong Un lmao which no US president did fucking ever because you are acknowledging the legitiamcy of that little shithole of a state. Trump is a little fat fucking bitch who can only boast but never deliver thank fucking god the Deep State and the CIA exists to keep a lid on his retarded fucking antics

>>8746589
I understand reality. I have strategies that literally print money daily. Does that sound like free market to you? Why would banks who can do that in spades, because I pick up crumbs, do anything else? There is no randomness in this market anymore. Sometimes something blows up is the only randomness.

>>8746710
The technology is still too good. A shit system will still advance. anti-cheats in video games now use basic ML. Of course, bringing up ML you just assumed I assume it is actually AI. I do not make this mistake and understand the limitations of current ML and that it's not very magical. Still the basic analysis that ML gives to people is pretty powerful considering how few areas actually use statistics properly.

>>8746693
What the fuck were they supsposed to do? Russian troops took those states by force. Was Killary supposed to reveal her Molok powers and kill them using black magiks???

>>8746703
that one I don't know since Tesla wasn't huge then

>>8746658
>Announce a cutoff date for the current policy.

Not necessary. The command economics of the USSR failed because they did not recognise that the free markets driven by supply and demand are the best provider of prosperity and wealth and they are outside of governmental control. The idea that a bunch of people in the FED can run the global economy via monetary policy is as deeply flawed as command economics was. The fed has in fact no control, as they have to respond to bond markets eventually which are basically broken. The steering wheel is coming of their car. The thing is their car was no more than a fairground ride where the steering did nothing much of value to begin with. The Japanese crash and economic strategies in the 1970s fully tested Keynesian economics and it failed hard. Its failing hard again in slow motion.

>>8746767
The system as a whole will survive and grow. The shit you see is expected and predictable. Even the cognitive ability to fix the system is best used elsewhere. It's fine for now.

>>8746596
but in that sense it HAS proven itself extremely useful. just because something starts on the black market doesnt mean that it cant eventually go mainstream. in fact this usually gives the product, commodity or tech a good amount of momentum right out the gate. i was gonna use weed stocks as a good example of this but theyre getting hammered right now. but hopefully you see my point.

it has at the very least proved its usefulness as a currency. and as far as im concerned, the ongoing buzz about it in financial news is a sign its here to stay in some manner or another.

>>8746765
>HOLY FUCKING SHIT lol DRumpf is pulling out of Syria right fucking now as we speak
about goddamned time. we never had any right trying to arm and fund anyone on either side of that conflict

>>8746741
>He thinks he can predict us, pump it.

Also yeah facebook and others are just "ad companies" if ads control human behavior and they become the masters of it in most countries.....


It may be stupid for technological advancement but being the mule isn't a bad position. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mule_(Foundation)

>>8746717
I promise you are a broken poor loser piece of shit and I have more money then you will ever see in your life Drumpf supporter.

I sincerely hope your daughter gets raped by niggers

LFIN mooning, halted atm

CEO going on CNBC fastmoney at 5

>>8746765
Obama made a red line regarding chemical weapon use in Syria and Asad and the Russians laughed in his face. Trump for all his faults actually allowed mattis to take direct and immediate action. Equally Trump allowed limited arms sales to Ukraine, in particular anti tank weaponry, whereas Obama/Clinton blocked arms sales. All that aside your disposition for the US democratic party is I feel utterly unconnected to geopolitical or economic realities but because you have a polarise allegiance to that institution because you feel it represents a tribe you belong to, that of the homosexual, atheist urban dweller. How ironic that for all your socialist leanings your phone was made in a Chinese sweatshop.

>>8746779
Maybe use cruise missiles against the Syrian airforce like Trump?

GCAP look at this beautiful double bottom.

Last week someone was shilling MORL and honestly the more I look at it the more I like what I see. I could use some good dividends.

>>8746886
>polarise allegiance to that institution because you feel it represents a tribe you belong to
this is the real problem with politics today.
people seem to think they belong to a "team" with a D or an R jersey. they'd rather see that team win than anything else.

where the fuck is bagholder?

>>8746948
Maybe the bags finally got too heavy.

>>8746907
You mean when he spent $100 million dollars on cruise missiles to blow up an empty field and maybe $500 worth o f military equipment. Lol ok, good strategy anon...

>>8746948
that faggot killed himself. He said he was gonna kill himself last week when he lost everything and it looks like he succeeded

>>8746831
>if ads control human behavior and they become the masters of it in most countries.....

Big IF there. An IF that has been upheld as true by the marketing industry for a long time because they like that paradigm. It is of course bullshit. The fact is such marketing only effects those of the very lowest economic status and intelligence which unless you are marketing food stamps and free services has very little economic return

>>8746961
I don't really care what people like you think anon. You are the economic problem.

>>8746948
>>8746958
>>8746962
Was his suicide confirmed by the retards in Xaviers? Did he live stream it?

My SVXY calls are making money today, and to think I was mocked this morning :^)

>>8746962
>he lost everything?
really? kek. I knew he was doomed when he made that "I'm gonna make riskier and riskier bets until I have a lambo"

ALWAYS BET ON BEZOS BABY YEEAAAAHHHHH

>>8746961
those cruise missiles had already been bought and are outdated compared to the new stuff coming. Not a big loss of money.

Gimme some good meme stocks before the day is over

>>8746831
ad revenue companies are the tech im most bearish on. if theres even a sliver of a chance that normies figure out the specifics of whats been going on to them by not only government intelligence, but also by private companies, its gonna be bad. zuck cucks for congress on april 11th. im staying tuned

>>8746860
>I have more money then you will ever see in your life
well let me just redistribute some of that my way then... i needs my reparations

just let it go m8. most of the general is against /pol/ anywho. youre batting at the wrong hive

>>8746986
And you are humanities problem. Low class genes and subhuman intellect should be purged.

>>8746964
Sure, but you can definitely see the effects when good manipulation happens across these platforms. Whether or not the ad and professionals are good at it yet it's just a matter of time. Controlling such infrastructure in so many countries is valuable.

>>8747007
Nah, he probably would have gone and shot up the NYSE first.

am i the only one that has been noticing the hate toward one another more and more in this thread?

its been a shit fest this week and last week in here

>>8747102
It's a leftypol raid, ignore it.

>>8747028
Still, this 'attack' was nothing than more smoke that Cheeto in Chief is blowing up your stupid inbred hick asses. He fucking warned the Russians beforehand, how stupid do you have to be?

>>8747102
weve been getting raided. its just retards taking up opposing sides stirring the pot. classic /leftypol/ faggotry. mods just got the last hothead outta here, so its good to see they got our backs

Fuck im so shitty at day trading, i still love u though biz. My bad descions have cost me all these gains.

I need to learn to not panic trade.

>>8747102
Weak hands and bad decisions are making people angry, they want to shift the blame on someone

>>8747111
/pol/ and /k/ had threads about the attack hours before it happened. Why do you think killing russians would have been a good idea?

>>8747111
missed one

>>8747125
M O D S A R E G O D S

Keep /smg/ comfy

Politics now and again are fine but wanking for the sake of annoyance is no good.

>>8747111
would you have advocated for a larger attack on the russians?

>>8747125
>>8747139
>>8747110
at times its unbearable

>>8747059
ONTX

Are ya winning, dad?

Did you buy the dip this morning, my fellow /biz/ friends? You know you should have bought the dip. It's nothing but green and bull from here now.

>>8747227
yes, actually

>>8747230

probably. flat quarter with nothing but great earnings on the way means this was the time to accumulate

AAAAAHHH WHAT'S GOING ON

I WAS SUPPOSED TO GET RICH OFF OF DUDE WEED

>>8747227
yes son, here is your allowance, don't waste it on that monopoly money again.

>>8747253
imagine when the tax cuts really hit. The buying opportunity right now is insane.

>>8747269
people who smoke weed dont run businesses well
plus canadian weed stocks had been driven into a frenzy of speculation, that much should have been obvious.

>>8747110
>>8747125
What the fuck are you guys talking about?
anyone who criticizes retard trump is a leftist now?
its simple, he's fucking up, people here are commenting on it.
You guys have this victim complex, not everything is a conspiracy.
Most people here and outside of here think trump is a retard and is fucking up, its no the end of the world for you.

>AMZN will NEVER be below 1400 again

>>8747269
why would you ever invest in potheads? curious what went through your mind making this decision

>>8747230
Damn it, I wish. But I did buy $7000 worth of stocks on Monday, so that was great.

>>8746797
It's not about the system. It's about the money required to buy stocks to keep still. You have a serious zombie companies problem. Like Japan, really. Those companies require constant stimulus to survive. They didn't just survived, they held up the market during the QE phase. This shit can't stay still unless the policy stimulates them. You will see a fall out of it.

I'm not a perma bear. I'm long this rally today too because pension funds will buy it from me at the close. But in general, this is not ending well. Buying this for anything but a trade is lunacy.

>>8747294
Amazon is going to buy their own country one day.

(((They))) have confidence in BGFV

>>8747353
They should buy their own postal service first.

>>8747366
just buy, hold, collect divi and wait for mid teens

>>8747368
They're already building it.

>>8747227
Very

Up 2.18%. Everything's green, even goddamn INTC. Feels good man.

>>8745758
>not using their retardation as a means to garner profit
turn off that filter, anon

>>8747440
Even AMRS is green mang

>>8747329
because I thought it was going to be like bitcoin get rich again, and so did everyone else. Classic FOMO

>>8747332
I agree with the sentiment as I said before. I just believe the technological gains in the near term will be enough to float everything around the calamity.

>>8746772
Speaking of AI and tech. Did you see CLDR? That's what happens when buzz words frauds can be pumped.

>>8747269
I hope you're still holding, fellow WEED guy. I've been swing trading WEED and Cronos for the last 6 months and it's been good to me. Legalization is coming though, and you invested your money for 2019, 2020, not next week, right?

Well looks like i'm holding TVIX for awhile, fucking bogs.

>>8747487
what if I was one of the idiots who bought into weed stocks with the january rush

>>8747541
same

>>8747594
I'll ride this all the way down to $7 and wait it out if I have too, I won't let the bogs win.

>>8746186
You deserve it m8
And me a mail ;)

>>8746325
The previous decade was the age of information

The next one will be the age of mutants.

Please take scifi very seriously people

>>8747589
Should've sold a percentage whenever you could have made a 10% profit. Buying and holding indefinitely doesn't work if you're trying to make money, especially with the way this market is right now since February.

>Sunrun at +7%
I hope you bros bought it weeks ago

>>8747608
I think today was a short squeeze

>>8747677
shame on me for selling at $7.50
at least my other stuff is doing okay too

>>8747329
I am investing in drug dealers, actually

>>8747487
I'm holding, yeah. I'd take a small profit at $36-40 at this point, though, as I'd rather put the money into some crypto stuff

Up 4.5% on SVXY calls I just sold today

Hella

>>8747677
i've been watching it and kicking myself for not getting in, i keep saying i won't chase it i won't chase it, this is all it's got, and it keeps going... wtf

>>8747283
were tired of political bait and political mumbo jumbo in general. most of it doesnt pertain to the market at best, and at worst (most of the time) its a huge distraction from the market as it has fuck all to do with most aspects of the global economy. everyone and their goddamned mother has either been defending and cheering his every move, or kvetching and wrteching at every turn. neither reaction is realistic, but in order to trade effectively, we have to be realistic. no one wants to sit here and argue with you about how they voted, so stop baiting with it. if all your here to do is to whine about trump is ruining your gains you can simply fuck off. no one wants any of your shit.

>>8747698
>I am investing in drug dealers
theres a drug dealer ETF? what ticker? sounds dope

>S&P up 1%
This has to be the most obvious pump & dump ever. See you guys. Bring an umbrella for tomorrow.

Hope my fellow mapleniggers bought the Aphria dip

So what changed between this morning and now? Why did my portfolio go from -2% to +2%?

>>8747719
Gotta buy Sunrun before it hits $11 at the end of the month

>>8747680
Wow, didn't even know there were options for TVIX

WOOT. GUESS WHO THE FUCK REVERSED ALL THEIR LOSSES FOR THE PAST WEEK TODAY.

>>8747740
We all remembered some nigga got shot years ago so the bogs called in a pump.

>>8747698
Remember, they haven't had any recreational sales yet. Also the possibilities of big tobacco investing in some of the winners.

Once Canada goes legal, I'll start looking into American Cannabis companies. They're cheap now, but not something I'd put any significant money into yet. $TGIF is on my radar.

>>8747144
I didn't, but when drumptards say obungo and killary weren't hard enough on Russia I wonder what they would have done differently.

Hey fellas, just ordered pic related. I have confidence in my research and my exit point is very low risk. Worse case scenario I will bail out with a small loss. Hope everyone is doing good on this bounce.

Power hour rally! Looking good. Upward trend since the panic dip this morning. Calling green for tomorrow although i'm not sure how strongly it will trend in that direction without any material news from a large cap. Business media have not been fuding recently which is nice. My dip buying at open paid off nicely.

Aurora is struggling mainly due to all the share dilution from the cmed deal. It needs a lot more volume than Canopy to achieve equivalent gains. On the plus side, today had more volume than usual for this bearish period.

>>8747776
IN FACT, I UNDID LOSSES FOR THE PAST MONTH.

>>8747824
Make sure you pay proper respect to sminem, remember who he really is.

>>8747727
Can't tell if serious or /s but it's MJX. I don't bother with it myself.

TSLA shorts on suicide watch

>>8747824
Me undo gains from whole yesterday :(
Stupid short squeezes

>>8747857
>/s

thanks for the pump bogs

Post market check-up. You weren't such a brainlet you managed to close red on a green day right?

>>8747794
>Once Canada goes legal, I'll start looking into American Cannabis companies. They're cheap now, but not something I'd put any significant money into yet. $TGIF is on my radar.

I'm already dipping a toe in the US market. Watching out for TGIF, MPX, CNNX, VIDA (edibles), and FFT (vertical farming, growth lighting, medical dispensaries, and industrial hemp).

>>8747890
Holy shit. I'm green all across my portfolio in the last 10 minutes. What happened??? Still down overall though...

dip's over boys. even if we have a red day tomorrow we've seen the bottom. hope you got in for the next leg higher

>>8747890
Up 4.5%, called the rally

>>8747890
I bought the peak around noon and sold at the low before the rally. I'm not very good at this.

>>8747928
I absolutely do not trust this market, I hope you're right, but at this point any predictions are literal guesses.

>>8747934
Well done.

>>8747927
>>8747961
Bogged. Better luck tomorrow.

>>8747890
my short vol options are so close i can feel it. dis gonna be good. my little swing on TQQQ for half the day was good too. got out the first time we hit flat for the day on the nasdaq. shoulda coulda woulda, but im happy, and tomorrow ill be happier

>>8747847
Always.

>>8746111
I may hasard myself into some weird conjecture about the high valuation in today's markets.

Maybe we are shifting paradigm.

It is a mix of :
- longer life expectancy, PE is roughly the number of years before ROI. But now people tend to live longer, so a higher PE is acceptable
- leverage over everything (very vague term but or example, data and ads a company can extract and sell to a single body, money deposits are no more the apanache of banks but also others which in turn, will surely invest it)
- better and quicker capital allocation (the age of Buffett during which he could arbitrage plenty of stocks because the information was harder and slower to get and analyse)
- risks and processes are now studied and made into theories to death, making business earnings more predictable and consistent. For example, there are schools that teach you how make good movies. There is theory about that now. No more need for imagination or other unquantifiable stuff.
- lack of real talents and ambitious entrepreneurs, making the existing, thriving business more valuable
- money is for the most part digitized, so no more dead money cut off from the capital market

I am also thinking about gold and why the fact money not being tied to it is a good thing for economic development. It is something about leverage again...

>>8747970

six months from now we're gonna be higher than you could have imagined. chill out a little. this was the time to buy

>>8747961
as a general rule of thumb, big guys close out for lunch so the rallies, if they happen, are at the beginnings and ends of the day more often than not

>>8748032
>shifting paradigm.
That's your answer lol

>>8748069
Yep
I know it is a bold assumption but I am retarded and know no shame

>>8748069
>>8748032
You guys mean new paradigm?

>>8748044
So just short the market around noon and buy lunch on margin, come back and lunch was comped?

alright /biz/ this is probably a dumb question but here it is anyway: say my friend and i agree to the following:
i go long into some stock that pays dividends
my friend goes short in the same stock
we will share all received dividends
if i close my position with profit i pay that back to my friend and vice versa.
would we basically be getting dividends for free?

>>8747760
where are you able to see options chains for TVIX? i cant see any on my broker, so ive been trading em on UVXY, but TVIX would be much better for me, so that i could write more covered calls against it (ive been doing this so i can play omnidirectionally, then adding long option legs to play intraday fluctuations). if youre still here id be very interested to hear how you can trade options on TVIX. i got a small account, so this would be perfect.

>>8748149
its not that simple. but check volume charts in the morning, lunch, and afternoon, and youll see what i mean. lunch is when you look for the next play, not when you FOMO into something.

>>8748205
I didn't see them, another anon commented on tvix having a short squeeze, I didn't think you could trade options on things like that.

>>8748165
If the stock pays a dividend while you are short, you have to pay the dividend to the person you sold the stock to.

>>8748274
ah that makes sense thanks anon

>>8748244
short squeeze happens when a high amount of shorts get BTFO buy immense buying pressure and have to cover simultaneously. this "squeezes" the price up real fast. this doesnt happen on options purchases in either direction (long or short) as they dont affect the underlying.

i appreciate the answer though

also if you are into trading options against volatility look at UVXY. thats how ive been doing it.

>>8748117
It's a "smart" way of saying this time its different.
lol no.

You are not seeing a sucker is all there is to it.

>>8748332
Thanks for clearing that up. I will definitely look into UVXY.

>>8748354
Maybe you are right.
Time will tell

>>8748364
look up ways/try to think of ways to play that are direction indifferent as well. its easy to tell that vol is gonna move, its just incredibly hard to tell which direction it will move in. that little tip alone has been helping me to actually trade this shit effectively, and not just gamble on it. also if you want to trade it, look into writing covered calls against it. helps make it a little less terrifying to hold onto.

Anybody else got shares of NG? Where can I find information on the earnings?

>>8748481
Covered calls is something I'm just learning about now, hell i've only been fucking with options for about a month. Did pretty well with SNAP puts, but I know it's a dangerous game.

>tell myself to buy the dip
>too indecisive
>everything closes green
Fuck sake

>>8748606
Can't lose if you don't play right?

>>8748572
Welcome to the option club bro
Covered call is imo a safe way to get used to trading options

I am a LT holder so getting some income while hodling is a nice extra

I am thinking about holding high paying dividend stocks and selling calls against them for extra income.

>>8748606
Gotta have discipline bro

As for me, I only buy when it is red and sell when it is green

>>8748424
Valuations are only important if you are trying to establish worse case scenario. Stocks trade on supply/demand at any given instance. You want to buy a stock nobody is selling, you pay for it. You want to sell something nobody is buying you pay for it. Ticker with no underlying business can command arbitrary market cap. The question is sustainability. Obviously the more overvalued things are the more volatility there is and the bigger random drops happen.

>>8748635
Thanks, definitely going to take it slow and do my DD.

>>8748635
>I am thinking about holding high paying dividend stocks and selling calls against them for extra income.
exactly
need to figure out the timing on each one though as i dont wanna get called away just in time to miss the divs. but you write that thing the day before the divs, and you could just buy it back immediately and repeat with another call. seems like you could atleast get a double play every quarter. in addition to div.

Is it still worth putting money into RUN? How long do you fags think it will keep pumping for?

does anybody here use finviz extensively? I filtered for tech, volume over 500k, with an analysis recommendation fo buy or better and the 2 lowest P/E are MU and SUN, both shilled here for massive gains already.

Something to this process?

>>8748572
being short options contracts is actually a very safe way to play. you just have to make sure you are "covered" and not "naked". covered calls require you to hold 100 shares of the underlying. the real fun comes from combining a stock position, a covered call, and a long call or put. you can do a lot of stuff without even selling your position, all while reducing cost basis and downside risk. definitely look into covered calls if you are new to options. i just recently started trading them in a new way and its good stuff. you can really cover your ass during these drawdowns too

>>8748864
people are looking for stuff thats not overvalued? i guess?

>>8748802
Thanks for the heads-up

In a LT perspective, I have been thinking with my low iq brain but the worst outcome would be to have my stocks called.
But you can buy them back immediately and sell a call agai.
But if you want to keep the stocks no matter what you can actually close the losing option position and rollover.

The only drawback is it requires capital, it is somehow a slow and steady approach and it limits you to lowly priced stocks if you are a "low spec".

>>8748896
Know of any good resources to read up on, or should I just google it and look around.

>>8748951
it seems the day to not be holding a short call is the day before ex-div. at least thats what ive heard. never tried it yet.

>The only drawback is it requires capital, it is somehow a slow and steady approach and it limits you to lowly priced stocks if you are a "low spec".
not if you do it on low priced, hi div stocks
check out SRC

>>8748864
CAPL has P/E= 3430.00

What does this mean?

CURRENT COMFY POLICIES
LONG QD
LONG NOKIA
SHORT THE BOND MARKET
THAT WAS TODAY'S MARKET RUN DOWN, BROUGHT TO YOU BY COKE ZERO

>>8748992
look around. tons of silly videos about "weekly income" and shit from selling naked calls against apple or some dumb shit. and tasty trades will try to coerce you into doing iron condors for no reason. read investopedia, and honestly just try it out on a stock position you already have. its a relatively safe move if you sell it short OTM. itll give you a little cushion underneath your position, caps your gains at your strike price, and pay you a small premium to do it right off the bat. then just watch it and see how it behaves.

>>8749043
its stock price is 3430x what its earnings per share are. thats terrible.

>>8749043
you have to buy $3430 of stock to 'earn' $1, that ratio is shit

normal PE depends on industry but like 10-30, so you're normally risking like $20 to earn $1 in profit

>>8749063
short bonds as well. got a call at 21 for sometime in may on TMV. hasnt moved with me in quite some time though. kinda feel i fucked up and should just try for the 20 calls

>>8749070
btw im suggesting you just go try "covered calls" NOT naked options. those are scary if you dont know how to do them

>>8749103
I have puts on JNK right now, because when the bond market implodes that subprime debt is going to the center of the earth

>>8749063
We're all gonna make it comfy

>>8749127
good point. they got absolutely nowhere to go but down. people will ONLY be selling those things for the next two years. especially the next time the FED hikes rates and crush em again.

>>8749127
i was focusing on longterm treasuries, but clearly im running up against some buying pressure or something im unaware of. bonds seem kind of esoteric to me at times.

What should I do with my weed stocks?
Sell with 50% loss, and use the rest of the money to bet on something else?
I am not gonna make it unless I take huge risk.

This is all in.

Any good, small P/E AI companies to invest in? I'm so tired of only being able to invest in new tech through the current Microsoft, Intel, etc. companies when 95% of the company is boomer shit. I just want the new stuff.

>>8749088
They pay a 12% dividend. Maybe they just give all the money they make back to the share holders.

>>8748864
I used to use Finviz, which is a really fantastic screener for US equities.
Nowadays, I tend to have my ideas by lurking here or browsing a few investing blogs (not the mainstream ones like the Streets or the Motley Fools).
If I like the ideas, I do my DD on them (reading 10-K, researching stuff related to the industry, modelize the company, try to imagine the figures of its future growth and do a DCF model).

I tend to take analyst rating as a joke.

As for the screening process

First, define what you are looking for. Cheap and discounted companies ? High growth companies ? High dividend companies ? large cap ? mid cap ? a specific sector you think would have a tailwind ? etc

For example, I usually put a low P/E (>15), a lower forward P/E (<15), little to no leverage (debt/equity <0.5) if I want a cheap company. And I only only look at companies in industry I can understand. Generally, these companies are cheap because Wall Street don't like their shrinking revenues. You investigate on the cause, the rate of decline and if there can be a catalyst to turn this around etc.
In my opinion, a clean balance sheet means the management can easily get leverage to experiment new stuff. And you try to imagine if you can trust the management to do new things.

When I was an even bigger noob than today, I noticed SAM which was very cheap (around 130$ in 03/2017). I believed the stuff on SeekingAlpha and missed out on the opportunity. I didn't understand the power of share buybacks done solely with the free cash flow.

>tldr git gud son

>>8749240

Average down on the lows. I realize you're spooked if you're thinking about selling at 50% loss but i'm telling you greener pastures are coming. Tomorrow, in fact. There was heavy buy volume in the last 90 minutes today. More volume on the buy side than I have seen in months.

>>8749240
>50%
wew
i dont know. im not sure i could sell at that level, thats normally when i just ignore it for a few months and start praying. but i dont think weed stocks are going to bounce up to back where they were unless it actually gets legalized (or at least until harvest) or some sort of major legislation in its favor. it was REALLY pumped up on speculation. a lot of people had the same idea as you. and i bet a lot of them are sitting there thinking exactly what youre thinking right now. make of that what you will.

>>8749274
>P/E 3430
>12% div
yeah that doesnt sound sustainable at all. remember companies can slash dividends whenever they want

>>8749294
>Average down on the lows.
how do you do this if you already did the stupid move of going all in instead of buying in batches

>>8749138
May Eric guide you Anon <3

>>8749345
>how do you do this if you already did the stupid move of going all in instead of buying in batches
you dont, and then learn to buy in bathes.

why do people go all in on anything? its retarded.

Social media companies are an arm of our government disguised as propaganda-for-hire disguised as social media companies.

If they continue to grow, and their algorithms get better, they will be more powerful than the military. And they should be valued as such. I used to think FB wasn't worth a roll of toilet paper given their shitty business model, but I'm beginning to think their inevitable if not already done transition to state apparatuses will make them rich rich rich.

>>8749345

Okay just hold then. If you want out you'll have a better opportunity tomorrow and Friday. I'm quite sure.

>>8749389
oh shit, 4chan is more powerful than the government? thanks moot!

>>8749389

This relies on public trust though. If public stops using social media in the transparent way they have been in past 10 years or so, the value of the data goes down and the strength of the platform down with it.

>>8749070
Selling covered calls will make you small profits at low risk but I hope you account for the massive loses on the tail.

>>8749389
>Social media companies are an arm of our government disguised as propaganda-for-hire disguised as social media companies
>this makes me wanna go long on them and give them all my money
nothing personnel kid, but i hope you get burned. if you think that type of behavior warrants giving them a bunch of money, then i hope you lose it. no offense. thats the kind of shit that actually deserves to be regulated at a federal level (unlike a lot of stuff that is). they should not be rewarded for working with institutions that were created solely to spy on US citizens and infringe upon their rights. especially not for profit

>>8749466
oh i do. ive just been experimenting with some new ways to use em, and stay hedged while all these bombs are dropping. still new to using them directionally.

>>8749466
I am sorry me not speak english very well

What do you mean "massive losses on the tail" ?
Are those the ones occurred when the underlying is dropping while shorting the calls ?

>>8749420
They are going to get better at covering up their data and who they sell it to. They will also continue to make new platforms seemingly under different management. More "content creators" and product promoters (think insta thots) are going to be created and eventually the system will be too widely used, too obscure, and too lucrative for so many people that it will become too big to fail. I will wait for the congressional hearing to buy, but I've got FB on my list.

>>8749537
the tail of a distribution is the range of outcomes that are not very likely and happen far from the mean. frequently these complicate reasoning about a distribution.

the shaded area is the tail of this distribution.

>>8749537
>>8749589
yeah basically, its very unlikely, but you might get stuck buying back and taking a hit, especially if you wrote yourself a big premium

>>8749589
>>8749630
Oh ok
I learned a new English expression as well tonight
Thanks
That is probability for you

>>8749507
Are you dumb? You make money off of companies with minor competitors and government backing. Who does that sound like to you? I think it should be cracked down on heavily too but we both know it's never going to happen, just like bankers will never be punished for burning everyone's savings every couple decades. This is a game and it's rigged, playing by the rules gets you very little.

If it makes you feel better I'm also going to buy up GE at $10 because I legitimately think they are a good company that are a) worth more than $10 a share and b) bad to let go out of business for a lot of people.

>>8749393
I hope so, I realize I won't come off from this unscathed, but at least less damage would be okay.

...just to lose it all in another risky investment.

> literally bought SPOT at the all time highest then sold at the very lowest
take my money please

>>8749643
You'll often hear "long tail" to express that a distribution has a lot of outcomes in its tail. I like the expression because for many distributions, it looks like the tail of an cat. I like cats :3

>>8749685
>he fell for the IPO meme
BOGGED

>>8749704
>oh hay
>I heard you liek catz...

>>8749384
because I didn't do any studying or research beforehand. It's a mistake I'll have to work around with until I have extra funds to invest/gamble more wisely.

First

>>8749742
based

What's your background, talking to the successful traders/investors here?

Are you just a pretender who has read some shady analyst books and believes he can predict the market?
Or are you a mathematician who can really interpret the figures of the market with a high enough percentage to make the betting more favorable for you?

Just asking, because I am a brainlet with 0 knowledge basically.

Only made $150

Predictions for Tomorrow?

FUCK FELL ASLEEP
oh well, bearfags destroyed

>>8749978
Thursdays usually has a high chance of being a red day doesn’t it ?

>>8750044
Maybe Sideways Tomorrow.

Gold is pumping after hours again, boomers won't quit.

Anyways I'm either Shorting CASI @7.50 again or RUN @ 10

>>8749949
I just buy and hodl indexes.

>>8747890
Spotify ate up all my gains for 2 days in a row, I should’ve listened to you guys.

>>8750127
Pandora only has a Market cap of 1 Billion. It Lost 90% of it's value since the last peak.

Spottily is 30+ Billion.
Unless it can bring a ground breaking Music service that every one is willing to pay for. It won't go anywhere.

based alhabet c

>>8750127
I warned you about it bro

>>8750177
I bought it because i’ve been a faithful and satified Spotify user since it started and I genuinely don’t see a better alternative for mass consumption of music.

I may have fucked up, but I was already financing their lambos anyway, whatever. I learned a valuable lesson.

>>8747393
Does bgfv have enough free cash to continue paying its dividen? i was thinking of getting some cause i see it memed here all the time, but im not sure if their dividend is sustainable

>>8750189
I know, I should’ve listened to you guys. I am just getting started and was expecting to make mistakes anyway.

>>8750249
> i’ve been a faithful and satified Spotify user

Interesting. Perhaps there will be more soy boys buying it out of emotion.
I'll be watching it closely, you might be able to get out on a meme pump.

>>8749949
I read a couple of investopedia entries, lurked /biz/ for a few days and I now have a doctorate in investing from the m`bala university in Uganda

It's really easy, all you gonna do is sign up for a brokerage and DON'T buy weed stocks, avoid FAANG for the time being, avoid leveraged ETFs unless you know what you're doing, and basically buy BNDX until you figure shit out because lately it's been a clusterfuck. This is not a beginner's market at all. The volatility in the market in the past couple of months hasn't been seen in a very long time.

>>8750249
Sadly, it's a shitbag datamining company that produces nothing. Kinda like Facebook, but FB is another story.

>>8750321
based. john bogle posts among us

>>8750258
I looked into their financial reports and their debts just keep on growing

Their share buybacks and dividends are mostly paid for with debts.

Also, in retail businesses, the inventory and the PPE are worth next to nothing in case of a fire sale (who would want big ass shop in a mall nowadays, apart from mexicans or chinks). The margin of safety is much lower than what their balance sheet suggests

But these are fundamental considerations.

Big5Guy views BGFV as a technical play based on the capital structure and the float being shorted.

And as with TSLA, BGFV’s little game can go on as long as the creditors are willing to lend money to this venerable and long lasting business with lots of assets.

>>8750318
Nah, a faithful soyboy like me will probably hodl faithfully until the end out of emotion.

>locking up your capital into one ticker

I was like you once.

>>8750373
Here's a visualization of their current debt. Looks pretty healthy to me, desu

heh well if no one makes the new thread dont mind if I do

>>8750511
i got mine all locked up in a 3x bull ETF that I held down a 40% drop....twice (in feb and march)

>>8750662
what was her name anon?

NEW THREAD FOR AFTER HOURS AND NIKKEI

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