/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>8571593
Crash it.

Thx trump for the trade war victory

He sold. Raise the ask for tomorrow.

Who here bought the /Ko/ dip?

>>8571638
Today was Just institution buying back shares and shorts covering.

tomorrow is commercial buying and institutional dumping.

>Portfolio down $5000 on friday
>Portfolio up $3000 today, even though market is higher than start of friday

My delta is fucked.

>>8571593
I have my normie ACWI ETFs and I am glad that today I was still holding them.

>>8571758
Yeah, I'm still not buying this bounce back yet. The market has been unusually low volume. Needs a few more days to really establish a trend.

>>8571840
been saying the same thing. way too fucking quiet. im fully convinced that this run today was on the backs of hungry retail bulls, and that the big guys were for whatever reason, completely absent

Buy Chegg you twinks

>>8571890

Big guys want to see a better established trend. One day bounce off a deep red day isn't sufficient.

>>8571962
but its been like this since last week

>>8571984

Yes. Volatility is keeping a lot of money on the sidelines.

>>8571962
big guys create the trends

> bought high on Thursday
> sold low today
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

what TEUM? ER tomorrow

>>8572027
i also think the fact that this week is a holiday week is playing into it too. seems the only people trading on short weeks are retail. thats why im still unsure if the market wants to keep bearing down on us or not.

Are we seriously sitting here FUDding a fucking 670pt gain? Guys, chill the fuck out lol

>>8572106
sure. i for one, think thats way too much of a gain in one day to call it a healthy market. and on the backs of low volume, on a holiday week, after tech and financials had their worst week in years.

suddenly having literally the greenest day ever in trading history right after that does not sit well with me. at all

>>8572106
They're going to wait and FOMO when we're up another 10%

>>8572177
happens literally after every sharp correction you nigger
>in trading history
not even close

>>8572177
>>8572224
Stocks Jump in Best Day Since [August] 2015 as Dollar Falls

>>8572032

>>8572224
regardless it was a fuckhuge bounce. and easily the biggest in years. also, i still maintain that this isnt a correction, we are entering a bear market in equities.

Holy shit i should have all inned on RHT REE

Finally had a green day after 9 straight days of red. Was at $5.1k March 12. Clawing my way back to 5k

>>8572365
>5k down to $800
are you memeing right now

I am interested in getting into the stock market but have never tried anything in it before. I have been trading crypto since June.. asides the crazy volatility crypto has, what are the main differences you would say??

>>8572365
no memeing here, just put it in an index fund.
you're clearly terrible at this

I picked a helluva time to get partially out of crypto and dabble in the market. Mr Toad's wild ride.

>>8572412
If that would be true then there would be closed factories and riots in the streets...

>>8572275
>2015
wow its nothing

>>8572317
its more probable that we enter a bull market or consolidation easily before a bear market, thats deluded as fuck, do you realize how rare bear markets are?

>>8572417
Trades are generally more costly, so you trade with lower frequency.

A common scheme is just to HODL an ETF tracking a performance index like S&P 500 or the ACWI for 30 years.

>>8572412
nope, lost a bunch on spy calls

>>8572365
Jesus christ man, stocks aren't your game.

>>8572485
Details please for learning.

>>8572490
nah man I'm gonna make it back with options

>>8572502
>gonna make it back with options

You gonna make it back by taking a step back and earn some money on the job, as stocks are clearly not your thing.

>>8572526
Jesus Christ...

Can someone explain how something like UDOW works? Its 3 times leverage of the DOW and has made 359% over the past 5 years. What's the catch? The only thing i could think of is that if the DOW list 33% of it's value you'd get liquidated or something.

>>8572502
>I'm gonna make it back with options

>>8572501
He likely bought high risk contracts and couldn't sell them before expire. He didn't have enough money to exercise the option so he lost big

I also have a Tastyworks account for playing SPX options. Went from $60 to $120 today scalping SPX 0 days. Wish I would have just kept one SPX call I bought in the morning for $45 that was worth $1400 at close

>>8572549
Post trade history please

>>8572566
*Lost

>>8572526
>>8572549
All beware of the power of betting heavy on options

You will be a rich man or a poor man by expire.

Easy come, easy go.

BASEDbook
>he fell for the FB fud
Im using these gains to buy a bottle of gin

>>8572566
yes if the dow loses 33% of its value your etf goes to zero. also you can lose money even if the dow remains flat or goes up due to slippage. you lose more money the more volatile the dow is and we're in a volatile market now.

eg, the dow goes down 6% then up 7% your 3x etf just lost money even though the dow is up overall

>>8572566
If the Dow loses 33% then you got (1-0.33)^3 = 30.07% remaining. Already that you do not know how leverage works means that you should step back before you lose your life savings because of a meme derivative and instead buy a book to understand how it works.

>>8572590
I would need like 10 screenshots to fit them all in

>>8572032

tfw poorfag just trying to turn 100 dollars into something more.

Realistically how long should it take for me to double my money? A month or two with the right all in approach? or do i spread it around and hope for the best?

im just playing poorfag stocks at the moment trying to score a couple bucks here and there a day.

>>8572618
No, if it goes down 6% down then 7% up you get:

DOW: 0.94*1.07 = 1.0058, i.e. 0.58% up
UDOW: 0.94^3*1.07^3 = 1.017, i.e. 1.7% up

>>8572063
Get out now. This pumped up price will not survive, even if they beat. Sell now and wait to pick up cheaper on Thursday/Friday.

Here are my trades from Tastyworks today

>>8572695
>Amount: 158.01
>Fees: 35.998

Am I in the meme dimension in this thread or what is going on?

>>8572618
Thanks

>>8572665
How long do you WANT it to take you to double your money? And how ballsy and risky are you?

>>8572695
>tastyworks

How do you figure out how much to hedge in options? 2-4% seems reasonable, but is there some math that makes it easier to decide?

Say I own 300 shares of microsoft, do I hedge with 3 options contracts or is it just whatever risk you want.

>>8572726
Can't trade SPX on Robinhood

>>8572665
If doubling your money was easy everyone would be doing it. There's no method of guaranteeing scoring a couple of bucks a day because sometimes you gain and sometimes you lose.

>>8572730
I just go all in options no shares. Shares only limit gains thank you very much

>>8572722
i mean realistically i would like to do it ASAP. I can hold stocks if i see the potential but im looking for quick money makers off day trades.

And its 100 dollars...im not going to cry to sleep if i lose it all so im pretty ballsy with it.

>>8572761
This is true, but longer term it is nice to have the underlying equities. I made a bunch buying puts on facebook last week (probably will tommorrow too), but I dont want to actually own that toxic stock. I guess in a real market dump I can buy puts on a valuable stock and exercise the option for discounts

>>8572736
what do you mean by spx? the sp cfd? the leveraged etf of the sp?

>>8572618
udow, leverage 3x, leverage style "daily resetting"

meaning it will go to zero if dow drops over 33% intraday. not over time.

etf daily resetting leverage is not SAME AS traditional leverage such as cfd leverage

>>8572730
You hedge your risks by not investing in a single company, bucko

>>8572788
VTGN should be a safe buy right now. Sell it when it gets back to $1.20 or $1.30

>>8572822
but they dont let the dow drop that much, its impossible

>>8572861
historically 33% has never happened you are right

at 4-5x leverage drag will be too much to handle for holding

>>8572861
Did you just (((they)))?

>>8572730
its easier to do with leveraged cfds sure but youll just find a pattern
like Natgas Long $5 point and Natgas short $2 point

>>8572885
I dont mean historically, it has dropped that much before, I mean today they just shut down the market via circuit breaker

>>8572526
Holy shit.

>>8572895
I mean technically, its the Fed or goverment that stops the market from crashing, they wont let it happen

>>8572885
Have we had a crash with leveraged ETFs in as much play as they are now?

It would be a very bad day. My conspiracy theory hat thinks that we are watching a planned release of bullmania right now to prevent this and de-lever the economy. If this is on purpose they are literally saving the free market. BUT THATS JUST A THERORY, A MEME THEORY

I hate to say it, but we have to thank /pol/ for this one. Last week was clear setup for a deliberate politicized crash, but weaponized autists sniffed out the game and memed up some insurance. (((they))) saw the danger of exposure and called it off.

>>8572032
>big guys create the trends

>>8572822
How is daily resetting leverage different from regular leverage. I guess neither is good for long term holds

>>8572647
Your trading frequency is actually proof you're making emotional decisions and not logical ones.

Is it worth it to get robinhood gold? I don't see why not at the price per month is peanuts, but is it what you guys use? Asking for a friend.

>>8572920
no dow has never dropped over 30% on a single day.

>>8572960
I have bigger fears that the whole market becomes more and more correlated, as more private and institutional investors are buying into ETFs which track performance indices. So we will see only days where everything goes up or everything goes down.

>>8573007
yeh man get the +6k and yolo everything in F :)

>>8573035
I may be new to stocks but mamma ain't raised no sucka.

>>8572988
regular leverage you'll have stop loss at 2x leverage = 50% drop for example

daily resetting you dont. each daily returns are simply multiplied by your leverage wether it's 2x, 3x, or 10x

>>8573010
sorry I misread

There are daily resetting etf's for dow and such

and then there are monthly and 3 month resetting

>>8572821
do you really not know what SPX is lol. It's the S&P 500

>>8573143
you said it wasnt on robinhood , which it is, hence why Im confused

>>8573202
SPX is the actual S&P 500 Index while SPY is a S&P 500 Index. SPX options cost 10x more than SPY and with SPX 60% of your gains are taxed as long term and 40% as short term

>>8572686
your math is wrong lmao. That's not how its calculated.

Start $100.
Index down 6% on first day. ETF promises 3x, so that's -18%.
You now have $82.
Index up 7% on second day. ETF promises 3x, so that's +21%.
You now have $99.22

Assuming no slippage. That's how rebalancing works.

>>8572686
>>8572628
>^3
wait what that doesn't sound right isnt 3x of 6% 18%
admittedly I haven't read the prospectus but still

>>8573251
nigger that doesnt make sense
60% of gains taxed? In what country are you in? Netherlands?

>>8573391
Not taxed at 60%. But 60% of the gains are taxed at the long term tax rates.

>>8573251
*SPY is a S&P 500 ETF

>>8573251
>with SPX 60% of your gains are taxed as long term and 40% as short term
?? what

im gunna need a source for that, i don't think it matters if you are trading an etf or a stock they'll both have capital gains tax and that tax would depend on how long you held that particular asset excluding any wash sales.. no?

>>8573510
"For Section 1256 contracts, you get to treat 60% of your gain or loss as long-term (which has more favorable tax rates) & 40% of your gain or loss as short-term. This is an advantage of 1256 contracts, which lets you take 60% of the profit at the more favorable long-term tax rate even if you held that 1256 contract for a year or less."
http://tastytradenetwork.squarespace.com/tt/blog/filing-taxes-brokerage-account

>>8573574
Oh interesting. I wasnt aware of this for options.

>>8573650
Not all options mind you. Just the ones on futures and the broad based indices

>>8573574
>http://tastytradenetwork.squarespace.com/tt/blog/filing-taxes-brokerage-account
wow i didn't even know that, this is a great piece of info. thanks anon this might change up my strategy

>>8573311
>>8573326
Wait what ... that means that leverage is automatically negatively biased, right? Assume $100 in, 1% up, 1% down, with 1x, 5x or 10x leverages:

100*(1+0.01*1)*(1-0.01*1) = 99.99
100*(1+0.01*5)*(1-0.01*5) = 99.75
100*(1+0.01*10)*(1-0.01*10) = 99

So the higher the leverage the higher the negative bias ... who would use leverage at all, if you are automatically biased to lose money?

>>8573781
leveraged etfs decay

>>8573781
now you're getting it

>who would use leverage at all, if you are automatically biased to lose money
leverage is different from a 3x etf. when you leverage you literally own 3 shares and you exactly track the index. of course, there are disadvantages -- you need to post collateral and pay interest. so in the end, you're negatively biased either way. to answer your question, someone who was pretty sure the market is going up would use leverage

"My partner Charlie says there is only three ways a smart person can go broke: liquor, ladies and leverage. Now the truth is — the first two he just added because they started with L — it's leverage."
--W.B.

>>8573852
Then why pick an etf?

>>8573923
because you dont need to post collateral and you dont need to pay interest

>>8573781
>who would use leverage at all, if you are automatically biased to lose money
for short term trading, holding them long term is kill

Nikkei bros here yet?

A story popped up in my news feed today that has me intrigued. Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell announced a new bill being put forward that will legalize hemp as an agricultural product. While this is only tangentially related to upcoming recreational marijuana legalization, there are a few companies in the sector who have fingers in this particular hemp pie as well. Notably MWM, Hempco, and primarily US based (Canadian traded) FFT.

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/380287-mcconnell-bill-would-legalize-hemp-as-agricultural-product

There was a second news story today stating that Aurora Cannabis increased their stake in Hempco to 35%.

https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/aurora-cannabis-increases-stake-in-hempco-to-35-677902583.html

This is a part of the marijuana industry that I believe many investors are sleeping on. While long term upside on hemp production is pretty slim (tight margins), an investment in hemp growers right now could pay out pretty well as this is very early in the game still. Might be something to look at if you're of the opinion that recreational marijuana is already pretty inflated in terms of share prices.

>>8574754
Always here
its time to make 2d gains

>>8575243
Mooning oya

I don't trade on the Nikkei but I have about $6000 in http://portfolios.morningstar.com/fund/holdings?t=FJSCX&region=usa&culture=en-US

Why aren't you holding SPY, EFA, and EEM and selling covered calls? It's free money until eternity and less drawdown. Liquidity is good too.

>>8575416
well actually, I am

Futures continues to moon, we did it guys

>>8575451
Good man. I'm getting easily >1% premium income every month. Fuck bonds.

We really +100 futures after +670 during the day???

I need a patrician stock to buy. I've been putting all my money in AYX but I already know it's overweight. I think it has the potential to follow Tableau's path, though. I could see it being $80-$100 in the near future.

This market feels bad, there is so much waiting to pop. Look at how a little bit of bad news can take down some stocks so easily. Feels like canary in coal mine stuff.

Im just a shitposter though

I guess everything is fine and it's probably not going to collapse and 2008 won't ever happen again.

<t. When it was just a fluke

>>8575597
Microsoft will take the BI spotlight from Tableau, buy them at the next dip

>>8575644
Imagine if someone charged you $800,000 to buy spaghetti and you charged them $50 to walk through your front yard. Would they still make the deal?

>>8575642
Everything is over valued, the S&P P/E has been too high for years, and, people know it. We're going to be reminded not to ignore fundamentals.

Another nikkei moon lol

>>8572611
>knew it was a perfect window to buy
>told everyone else
>held out myself cause I wanted my special snowflake growth shares

Not to worry, theres going to be another dip once they impose new regulations or whatever the fuck. Ill jump on it then.

God damn I'm so pissed.

>Bought the Feb rally, sold the dip last week, literally the /biz/ standard of buy high sell low
>Wanted to buy in today but I made myself be patient rather than jumping all in, and I was expecting the downturn to continue
>Could have made bank on the netflix and AMAT bags I dumped last week

I'm FOMOing so hard right now. Please tell me this is a bull trap laid by the Bogs.

>>8576502
Lol we called the FOMO this afternoon. Sorry broski, you missed the dip to buy

>>8576502
There will be more dips anon, dont worry.

Lunch break for the TSE. Anything good happening?

we're still in a pitchfork channel from 2016 and bounced right off the bottom yesterday, still in a bull market buckos. lots of variance sure but theres no true signs we are going bear yet

>>8572566
When you invest in regular stocks you take the stairs up and the stairs down, when you use leverage you take the elevator up and the window down

>>8577722
Trips and dubs confirm. Great explanation

>>8577771
you are correct that in a full bear or bull market they can be great, the returns are legit, but during times like the last 2 months or so of huge volatility just get out of them and wait for it to calm down. you will get chopped up guaranteed, let the market come to you

>its another I drink too much and fall asleep before placing orders on the nikkei episode

>>8577909

Anyone know if I can short bitcoin on robin hood?

Also I've bought puts on amd, GE, and calls on amrs. Ready for them to pull back to normal

>>8573143
Stop making fun of people when you're the when who turned $5000 into $800.

>>8578044
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIscL-Bjsq4

is this a good time to be on the ASX?

>>8578367
yes its a good range

Roku's pre IPO shareholders' lockout expires tomorrow, with a very convenient pump today, I'm wagering a few puts that we'll see a massive selloff tomorrow. If you think you can sneak in a put order early, might still be worth it, but they are hella priced in now. It's risky at this point, but I'm very confident.

BUY MY SVXY CALLS
$14.5 4/6 74 CONTRACTS
BUY BUY BUY I DON'T WANT THEM ANYMORE

>>8578586
kek you should never have got into options
amrs was a lucky break

>>8578586
this looks like a post id see on craigslist for some reason

>>8578607
Act-uall-y you dumb nigger, all the other options ended in the positive.

It's just... no one will buy these.. at literally 1 cent.... I DON'T WANT THEM TO EXPIRE WORTHLESS

>>8578627
Should I post it the personal section and offer succ if someone takes them?

>>8578586 this guy>>8578607 is right
>amrs was a lucky break
i've been buying puts here and there on AMRS thinking it'll come back down sometime soon

>>8578641
Ill trade you a nikkei position from 24k

>>8578659
personal section down, i've been seeing alot of whores on corners lately

>>8578666
Add a 2D girlfriend and you've got yourself a deal

>>8578641
They'll expire worthless whether anyone gives you a penny or not.

>>8578523

Easy call, but timing will be pretty important. Any IPO of that size is gonna see massive cashouts from investors.

If you can't get in on it, ROKU might be a good long term hold, good, solid product that's holding it's own against iTV and the other competitors.

>>8571890
Nikkei is up, and futures look good. VIX is down, but not a significant amount. I'm allowing myself to be a little hopeful for a green day tomorrow. Globally, things are up. That trend could change fast, but so far...

>>8578789
im selling half my shit tommorw at open since im all in green

I dont doubt itll go higher but theres probably going to be a sell off beforehand

>>8572106
A lot of posters in these threads are nolambos who want the market to crash, because they've fully bought in on the "JOOZ" meme, and are "It's happening" faggots who rush over to /pol for natural disasters and pull on their little puds, so they can jerk off to other people's misfortune. They're miserable little shitstains, and they will do everything to make everyone else miserable. That, or they're a coincult true believer who actually believes normal and institutional money will run to bitcoin in a crash, which is fucking pathetic and hilarious at the same time.

In other words, yes, they're fudding a 670pt gain, because fucking 4chan. If you load this site expecting less than unadulterated faggotry, you're on the wrong site.

>>8572417
Don't even put a dollar into the market. Anything you might have learned from crypto means shit.

AT MOST, buy some blue chip, or ETFs with a good record, and medium risk. Then decide what you want - long term investment, dividend income, or day trading. Each is a separate thing, and with separate strategies.

>Join Morningstar.com, and start trading fake purchases.
>Start reading sites like Investopia
>Start reading The Wall Street Journal, and other sites
>If you have more than a couple grand, start auditing financial services, like Ameriprise, or Merryl Lynch, for long term holding.
>Figure out if your money, or a portion of it, is better off in an IRA for a long term hold, tax free.
>Talk and LISTEN to people with a proven track record in investing, especially if they do it for a living. In other words, not here.

Do this for a year. Then you're ready for your first trade. If you have some cash accumulated, consider putting it in an investment account for now, let someone else grow it for you while you learn. Having someone you can call and talk to about questions you have is worth the fees.

This year is probably gonna be bumpy, because Trump is getting into shit that shakes the market, but has long term payoffs. He's looking at second term shit right now. The time to go all in with no experience was this time last year, the market was easy money until January. Now? Not a good time to be jumping in, unless you catch a dip like yesterday, and know what to buy. If you're looking for money right now, you need to day trade, and you can't learn that here - and you're not going to learn it fast, and you WILL lose more than you win in the beginning. Stay the fuck away from margin trading and derivatives. Stick to blue chip and ETFs for now, if you HAVE to jump in.

>>8572665
100% return? In this market?

You're fucking adorable. This isn't crypto, dummy. They only way to get 100% in the market is insider trading.

ch-chill out man

>>8573781
Degenerate gamblers and YOLOers.

What, you think they only show up on Bitmex? Wall Street is just a racetrack or craps game with suits.

>>8578833
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the /smg/ threads, and I’ve been involved in numerous pump and dumps on Nasdaq, and I have over 300% confirmed gains. I am trained in shorting pump and dumps and I’m the top trader in the entire US stock markets. You are nothing to me but just another retail trader. I will wipe the fuck out of your portfolio with precision the likes of which has never been seen before in this market, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of brokers across the world and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your investments. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I will short all your holdings seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my one hand. Not only am I extensively trained in going long and short, but I have access to the entire arsenal of options on my brokerage account and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable portfolio off the face of the market, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will short stock all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

baaaased

>>8575571
Nikkei and globally stocks are green. VIX is down, but not in any amount that's alarming.

Grass looks green for tomorrow. Remember 2011? When stocks dropped 2k? No, you don't, because you didn't start paying attention to the stock market until last December. It dropped 2k, and rebounded quickly. My bet is that this will happen again. I don't think we'll go back up all the way, but we should at least retrace from where it started to shit the bed. Happened again in 2015, 2k drop. Had a dead cat bounce, and then mooned in the trump rally. Look at the history charts, faggots. The market can and does rebound, and since 2009 over all, it's all up. With the economy doing well, I see no reason for a downward trend. And you "hurr derr dollar falling" faggots can fuck right off with that meme.

>>8578956
>Do this for a year. Then you're ready for your first trade

And watch all my picks get massive gains while my money sits on the sidelines?
Screw that, Im yolo, seeing what will happen on the spot.
Besides, its easier to give a fuck when its real money. Aint noone researching stocks for simulators

>>8578956
whats your balance between TA and fundamentals and memes for making decisions on trades?

>>8577711
With the Fed raising rates because the economy is a touch too hot, there's no reason for a bear market to form. Last week was all sentiment and emotion, from Facebook and the "Muh trade warz" bullshit, cheerled by a media that wants a bad economy for the 2018 elections.

The real test starts next month, when the earnings calls start.

I hate having to explain this shit, but I sometimes forget this is mostly NEETs who missed out on Bitcoin and think they can get lambos off Wall Street. (When the best way to get a lambo off Wall Street is to get your Series 7 and work there)

>>8579106
are you yelling at me like this?

>>8579086
" A fool and his money are soon parted". KJV. One of the only good quotes from that book, too.

I'll wait for your despair post, when all of your money is gone. Shouldn't take long.

>>8579102
None, I don't day trade, or care to. I might dabble when I retire. I don't give specific advice, either. Interested in some stock? Do your homework.

>>8579168
I'm not sure how I feel about this yet. What's the point of this thread and forums like this?

>>8579126
If i get any lower than 25% return, im marking it as a disappointing year.
Only a crash is bringing these babies down

>>8579168
dank

>>8579102
>whats your balance between TA and fundamentals and memes for making decisions on trades?
>>8579168
>None

>whats your balance between TA and fundamentals and memes for making decisions on trades?
>None

>>8579179
About the same as any on 4chan.

Did you forget where you are?

>>8579168
why are you getting so mad lmao its just an internet message board

i do do my own work thats why im profitable

>>8579179
>What's the point of this thread and forums like this?
its mainly for during day when stock market is open for people to shill shit stocks and for secret chat rooms to come steal stock picks and either pump em or crash them. It's basically a place to shit post until someone finds something good imo

whats expected at DAX open, is it going to follow suit and rise?

>>8578969
>They only way to get 100% in the market is insider trading.

....weed.

Just finished up my tax stuff for the year. Pain in the ass as usual however slightly less of a pain than previous years. Canada Revenue set up a thing where you can dump all the information they have on file for you for the year straight in to your return without having to manually type it all in. It even broke up all my investments in to separate T5008's which was very handy. All I had to do was type in the settlement date and the original book cost for each. That saved me about an hour of typing in numbers.

>>8579343
12k

>>8579232
Who said I'm mad? Because i used salty language? Dude, that's being friendly here. It's 4chan, get a fucking helmet.

Play the rest of the week is SVXY. Vix bagholders going to get rekt by the MM.

bump for overnight gains

who here ready for the eurofags to wake up and dump the FTSE like the fags they are

ok, markets still rallying, dollar ranging, metals rallying

I think we have ourselves the legendary golden bull market

>>8580687
I still think there is going to be one massive dump from all the Boomers chasing in their 401K along with every one selling to pay for their taxes.

I can't imagine where all the money is gonna come from too keep this bull market going.

>>8580730
hell no, more people are born faster than boomers die,, all those newborns are getting fresh 401ks

>>8580407
>up 1.5%

>>8580764
wages are still stagnant I don't think people are allocating that much to their 401K any more.
People are not getting paid more, and the Fed will gradually stop providing fresh dollars to keep pumping the market.

Hey, Eurofag new to this investing thing here. I was looking at the big IT shops and noticed that Microsoft is seriously cheaper than the others. Their net income is pretty gud, a lot more per employee than Netflix (which is over 3x MSFT). Microsoft has come up in the past few months a lot but I suppose it could go to well over $200, they have multiple solid products and they are not going away any time soon. The dividends also make it interesting for long term investment. What do you think?

>>8580801
WRONG
kill yourself bearfag

Looks like we are hitting 275 on SPY by Mid day Tomorrow just look at that momentum.

I'm hopping off TQQQ as soon as I reach 164 And going short 6x leverage I'm only 2x leverage here.

>>8580828
Just Look at the school debt problem, these scrubs won't have any money to invest, and the boomers are gonna crash the market by collectively chasing in their 401K on top of voting for an imbecile.

The deleveraging process will be brutal, worse than 2008 because Donald will have no idea what to do and will probably nationalize the banks.

>>8580865
doesnt matter, employers pay for the 401k
wages increase almost every year

>>8580865
go back to infinitychan by the way, its not a red day yet

Am I the only one who's had 401a and 401b?

>>8580888
https://youtu.be/PHe0bXAIuk0?t=955

>>8580984
Ray is a hack
Kill yourself, suffer in agony through impalement.
and buy coca cola you stupid fucking faggot