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come here I'll fix yer fuckin teeth, bitch.

u stupid faggot. this is a BUSINESS board. btx u need jaw surgery

How much for the Invisalign?

>>8524497
Suck some cocks

>>8524497
The fuck are you doing.
>wisdom teeth out first
>just get normal braces or invisalign (which takes longer)
>yeah you can get cheap braces, go to third world shithole where it wont be done right
>whiten your teeth after braces, ask your dentist

>>8524497
eat more rocks.

look into getting it done in Mexico

Suck it up and do braces. My teeth are fucked and my dentist told me straight up that invisilign is 2x slower than braces.

Get sapphire braces, the links are made of sapphire instead of metal, so they are really hard to see and easier to clean. Way faster than invisilign.

There's as little reason to get your wisdom teeth out as there's reason to be circumcised.

If you had normal teeth with a normal, wide palate there'd be enough space for them to fit perfectly

>El gobelino de las americas

>>8524497
I've been meaning to do this for a long time too OP, I'm turning 30 soon and just been putting it off because dentists scare the shit out of me. I have the money to do it but it's the psychological aspect of knowing I have a shitload of dental procedures ahead of me that is freaking me out.

If those are your teeth in the pic mine are a bit worse.

>>8524536
This, anon. I have the same jaw problem and don't know if it can be handled now (I'm 23). Also, try coming to e europe, the quality of our doctors is high and prices are just a fraction of your overly inflated ones. I personally know a bunch of brits and baguettes that came here just to same money on the dentist.

>>8524497
-Yes get 3rd molars taken out before braces
-No don't get canine implanted
-traditional braces much faster
-6K is a rip off
-Can't do whitening until braces are off. You might have fluorosis, so no whitening

>>8524497
there is literally nothing wrong with non-straight teeth jesus christ op it's better depending on your diet, braces are unhealthy and to a lot of person also unaestheic

>>8524562
Exactly this.

>>8524633
FUCK YOU FAGGOT I'M JUST A POORFAG WHOSE PARENTS CAME FROM EASTERN EUROPE HAVE SOME FUCKING SYMPATHY YOU PRIVILEDGED NON DIASPORA SHITSTAIN (ALSO WIDER THAN U MOUHAMMAD)

>>8524617
If there is not enough space in the jaw for the teeth to align correctly, the wisdom teeth have to be removed. This was the case for me.

>>8524617
Can anyone confirm this?

>>8524637
I can tell you get that shit done. Getting braces is not such a big deal. It will hurt a few days, when you get it the first time in. And will also hurt a bit when you get another wire (every few weeks, months the wire gets replaced by a stronger one to correct the alignment). This regular procedure takes only a few minutes and doesn't hurt.

>>8524497
Get wisdom teeth removed and then bite the bullet and spend the money on the new canine and braces. After that get whitening. Take a loan out if you have to, having fucked up teeth will hold you back in life for much more than 20k. It will mean that if you want to date a hot chick you have to go to Asia.

>>8524497
>me
>2 years apart

>>8524883
niceu

>>8524497
hmmm if only there was some trained professional you could speak to irl, one that specializes in fucked up teeth

>>8524860
>having fucked up teeth will hold you back in life for much more than 20k
>tfw 25 years already wasted because I was born with shitty genes outside of my control and now have to spend like $25k to fix that shit, but nothing will give me those years back

27 and have only 17 teeth left. Teeth are overrated anon. Bitches make out with me just for the story and im eating steak right now. Fuck teeth

>>8524918
I wanted the opinion of a third party with personal experience on the receiving end.

>>8524969
Lol

>>8524969
capped

>>8524519
Cool, how much?

>>8525085
I feel like ive made it now

>>8524969
21 here
4 are stubs tho
No tooth masterrace reporting in

>>8525120
By punching your face with a shovel probably. You got some serious answers, leave it with that. Only bullshit answers will follow.

Modern orthodondistry is a scam, look up Michael Mew and start mewing.

>>8525162
I asked how much it costs you mong TELL ME!!!!!

>>8524497
If you REALLY want to improve your teeth and not fuck up your mandible (Jawline) in the process, then reply to me so I know you are srs before I start to explain what you should do.

Orthodontics is a SCAM and your jaw and bite will become fucked in the long run. Removing your wisdom teeth? LOL, that will REALLY fuck you up. Your whole jawline will collapse as a result of not having them in place. Again, if you are srs then reply.

>>8525231
Pls help me, anon.

>>8525218
aren't these questions something you should be asking a trained professional? why don't you go to a orthodontist and ask.

>>8524497
Dude I got mine at 28, best decision ever. I actually love wearing them.
It is a good investment.
You get your wisdom teeth out before the braces.
Get the missing tooth implanted and teeth whitened after you get your braces off.

Protip: buy 10 link and cash out when you take the braces off. You will cover your costs and have enough cash for veneers if you are not happy with your smile.

>>8525218
Fuck off midget

>>8525346
Am over 6 foot

>>8525338
Thanks, just bought 100k

Go somewhere that isn't America or Europe to get any medical procedures done. Go to eastern europe or some chink country. Russians have become obsessed with dental care recently, because of how fucked their dentistry has been until now.

These non western countries seem to update their medical tech much more regularly, and it wont put you in life long debt. It always amazes me how some shit hole ex-soviet country can have better medical technology than the west, while we're still using caveman shit, for 10x the price.

>>8525231
Seriously, please give me your wisdom.

>>8525285
Brush your teeth with baking soda on top of your toothpaste for the colouring

>>8524497
It's weird when people come to biz with their basic money problems.

Like, how much is fixing the problem worth to you? And how much are you willing to spend? There's your answer. Why do you need my help?

>>8525231
You are talking about sawing out the upper jaw and braking the lower jaw, aren't you?

>>8525231
WHAT DO I NEED TO KNOW?

ILL SEND YOU 0.2 ETH

PLEASE IM SO SCARED OF LOSING MY TEETH

>>8525285
Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.

Okey Anon, get ready for a huge redpill. I hope you compensate me for this. I will change your life, you know.

You are young and have a lot of money to spend on your teeth, this is a good start.

The reason you have incel teeth, and probably face based on your teeth, is because of a couple of things. You were either not breastfeed enough, your parents gave you baby food when they should have given you hard food right after breastfeeding stage, you have terrible posture, you breath trough your mouth, your mouth is open during prolonged time intervals, you don't chew on hard food, your tongue is not on the roof of your mouth.

What braces does is to force your teeth into place, where they shouldn't be. The reason your teeth are crooked is because your jaw is small and the reason your jaw is small is because of the stuff I mentioned above. What you should do right now is to fix your posture immediately, close your mouth, push your tongue on to the rough of your mouth at ALL times, chew a lot of gum. This should be a habit, if you don't do this you WILL relapse into shitty teeth. Your Maxilla is very recess too, based on the condition of your teeth and you are most likely ugly. Your face has grown downwards, instead of FORWARD.

You with me thus far? Okey, now listen up. On Monday you will call Mike Mews office in London and book a consultation with him. He is the father of all of these mouth breathing theories. He has TONS of videos on Youtube, you should watch many of them during the weekend.

Book a consultation with Mike Mew, go to London, let him take a look at your face and teeth. He will not only fix your teeth, he will fix your WHOLE FACE. Your Mandible, Zygos, Maxilla. He will shift your face and make it grown forward. It will be the best investment of your life.

http://www.orthodontichealth.co.uk/book-a-consultation/

>>8525416
Since you're asking for general life advice and not financial advice, I'll give it to you.

Get braces at minimum. That'll fix 80% of your mouth. Don't worry about the missing tooth. My dad is missing the exact same one and you can't tell. Get tooth whitening later in life if you need/want it. But it's not necessary to be a regular, non-deformed member of society. In my honest opinion, $6K is all you should on your teeth and not a dollar more.

>>8525472
Ask me anything you want. But my best advice is to watch all of Mike Mews videos and lectures on Youtube before you go and see him. You have to go and see him if you want to change your teeth, and in the process he will change your whole FACE.

I hope you deliver Anon:
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>>8525524
I'm a dentist and this is retarded advice.

>>8525571
You are not a dentist. You are stupid. Anon, don't listen to this guy. If you remove your wisdom teeth your whole mandible WILL COLLAPSE!! WATCH MIKE MEWS VIDEOS! DO NOT GO TO A NORMAL DENTIST, IM SAVING YOUR LIFE!

>>8525571
Also, you didin't refute ANYTHING I said. You are most likely a larp.

>>8524497

If that pic is actually your mouth, the only problem you have and is worth fixing, can be fixed with braces. Don't need to break your jaw or some other retarded shit. Getting veneers to fix shitty slav teeth genetics is not worth the money or the pain it will cause. The white blotches and yellowish teeth means you probably have weak/soft enamel, the white parts is where your tooth has demineralized.

There's a Scottish company, Reminova, that is working on a process of using electric currents to bond calcium to your teeth and promote natural repair of your enamel. Unless you need perfectly white teeth for your 10/10 face photoshoot tomorrow, i'd live with it. Nobody cares whether your teeth are glow in the dark white, don't fall for the NA meme.

>>8524617
Dumbass

Wisdom teeth generally won't fit in the jaws of civilized people as they are shorter and often erupt at dangerous angles, damaging the rest of the mouth.

They are relics of a time before cutlery and processed foods.

>>8525595
this is a load of bullshit
wisdom teeth extraction, unlike the extraction of other teeth, does not cause any jaw problems
my jawline improved on the side where I got my upper wisdom tooth pulled. My cheek became more hollow

>>8525622
what is NA?

>>8525645
Idiot, the reason you had to remove your wisdom teeth is because your mandible is small. Why do you think we have wisdom teeth in the first place?!! Use your pea brain, I have researched this topic for 5 FUCKING YEARS. How much time have you spent on this? Yes, you will get hollow cheeks, but just wait 5-10 years. Your jaw will collapse because of the lack of support.

Don't believe me? Then DYOR right now and see for yourself. Use google and DYOR, you will be shocked at what you find.

>>8525571
>>8525595
>>8525645


WHO DO I BELIEVE????? AAAAAHJHHHHHHHHHA

>>8525659

North America aka US of A. Land of the free and the brave.

>>8525692
Derr, sorry anon. Thanks

>>8525689
Don't believe me, WATCH MIKE MEWS videos! I have research this for 5 YEARS! Do you hear me anon?! I removed my braces 4 years ago, now my mandible is crooked and asymmetrical because of the FORCED repositioning of the teeth.

You need to expand your palate, you NEED to stop mouthbreathing during the day and when you sleep, you need to push your tongue on the roof of your mouth and you need to swallow correctly with a sealed mouth and NO movement of the face.

Mike Mew will help you with all of this.

>>8525728
what do you think of endodontic treatments?

>>8525689
I am genuinely worried about your decision Anon, I want to help you. You have to watch this video, everything will be explained: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY3bIMRKil8

Why do you think that african tribes, as noted by Weston Price, all have perfectly straight teeth with ALL OF THEIR WISDOM TEETH INTACT? He will explain all of this. Watch his videos. Then send me the ETH you promised, because I'm genuinely saving your face right now, no kidding.

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>>8525595
>>8525617
>>8525728
All of the things you are saying about improving the airway via correct skeletal structure is correct and is literally one of the goals of orthodontics. Your logic makes no sense. What you're talking about, expanding the palate and aligning the occlusion is literally one of the fundamental reasons orthodontic treatment is ever started.

>>8525855
I'm not the one who promised to give you ETH btw. I'm a filthy no-coiner (for now)

>>8525857
Then why do dentist today NEVER mention any of this to the patients?! They want to make easy money by providing braces! The never mention ANYHTING about open mouth, bad posture, soft food, tongue on the roof of the mouth, correct swallowing, pushing the Maxilla forward etc. NO ONE HERE even knew anything about this and accused me of talking bullshit!

The ONLY person who talks about this to his patients and GENUINELY helps them is Mike Mew. Anon NEEDS to see Mike Mew if he wants to fix his teeth and face.

>>8525876
My bad.

>>8524497
How are the /biz vlogs going?

>>8525916
I thought it was him until he mentioned Canada. I think /biz/ vlogs live in the US.

>>8525887
They do mention all of those things and that's why they recommend orthodontics. You can't fix these issues by just pressing your fucking tongue on the roof of your mouth 24 hours a day. You can't will your maxilla to grow just like you can't will your mandible to stop growing. That's not the way the human body works and that's not just limited to teeth.

>>8525934
Of course you can. Faces NEVER stop growing/changing. Without your tongue your Maxilla would instantly collapse. Why do older people look different, skeletally from when they were young? Why did Stephen Hawking look SO different from when he was young? It is all about the tongue.

You have probably never heard of Mike Mew or Weston Price, so I advice you of watching Mike Mews lectures before you talk more. I won't reply to you until you have done that, because you are clearly not familiar with the current literature on this topic.

>>8524497
Dental student here.

Ok listen up faggot, first of all, no one refers to them as "k9". And missing teeth are perfectly normal, but not typically mandibular canines. That's OK.
>should I get my wisdom teeth taken out before or after I get my braces
Yes, you should. It'll give the orthodontist more room to work with especially if the wisdom teeth are coming in at an angle
>should I get a new k9 implanted? Or just let it be?
Depends on how much you are willing to spend / how esthetic you want your smile to be. if your smile doesn't even show your bottom teeth I'd say just leave it go and let the orthodontic work fill in the gap

Also, if you get an implant done it needs to be AFTER the ortho work, because once they place the implant it fucks with the bone and it's harder to move that prosthetic tooth around like a normal tooth
>Should I go with braces or invisalign?
Invisalign is more expensive but for a case like yours it is indicated, because your case doesn't look too complex. but it's hard to tell from a picture. they also will want to fix your bite, and you need to pour out models to see that. To fix a bite it usually requires old school braces or other appliances.

>Any way I can get braces for less than 6k?
No clue about dental prices in Canada.

>how do i get my teeth whitened?
This probably comes LAST in your treatment plan - you can do it at home through whitening kits (some work better than others) or have the dentist do it over a couple of sessions for you. that'll cost more.

>>8525970
*Some older people, not all. Also, some people look Much better when they are older than young because they clearly changed their bad oral habits (mouth breathing, soft chewing, not pushing the tongue etc) The tongue is the STRONGEST muscle humans have, and there is a fucking reason why that is, TO PUSH THE MAXILLA FORWARD.

>>8525855
Unironically, thank you anon. I am beginning to suffer from my impacted wisdom teeth now at the age of 27 and this might help

>>8526017
No problem, I am glad to help even 1 soul. Dentistry is the MOST blue pilled industry in existence. You have to stop listening to these people. They do not fix the cause, they only treat the symptom.

>>8525231
this guy is a retard, probably worships Alex Jones

>>8524497
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvoX_wEtwDk

>>8526076
No argument, you have probably been a victim of orthodontist, in that case I'm truly sorry. I want to help as many people as I can.

Also, tell me how I'm retarded, you didn't provide one single argument.

Enjoy your recessed maxilla and narrow palate, you fuck. You are genuinely making people SUFFER with your bullshit! The face on a human is one of the most important things in a persons life and you are making people suffer because of your ignorance.

>>8525679
My mandible is not small you fucking brainlet.
And Mike m*w is only half right and half a quack. Mewing is legit but I believe it mostly affects muscle tone/skin and can't really change bone.

>>8525970
>Faces NEVER stop growing/changing.
The long bones of the body stop growing after puberty. Connective tissues degrade as we get older and skin sags and teeth wear. Bone becomes less dense. That's it.

>>8525970
>Without your tongue your Maxilla would instantly collapse.
You'd have bigger issues than your maxilla slowly collapsing over the course of years if your tongue was cut out. Not sure what you're getting at.

>>8525970
>Why do older people look different, skeletally from when they were young? Why did Stephen Hawking look SO different from when he was young?
lmao the dude had a significant neurodegenerative disease and lost almost all of his muscle tone. That probably had something to do with it, Einstein.

>>8525970
>Weston Price
Literally one of the OG snake oil salesman. Of course I've heard of the dude because I'm very familiar fixing people who think all they need to do to keep their teeth healthy is swish with coconut oil or some other nonsense.

People like you who have completely rejected western medicine and dentistry really can't be reasoned with because you don't trust any peer reviewed literature and your concept of common sense is completely shot. Note that I'm not even disagreeing with you that having a fucked up mouthbreathing airway is a bad thing. I'm just saying that of course it can be fixed with orthodontics.

>>8526114
Mike Mew is a god. He is saving thousands of peoples faces! I will bring ALL my future children to his clinic and make him help them develop perfect Maxilla.

IF ANYONE HERE doubts Mike Mew then do 1 simple thing. Google his father and look at his fathers face, THEN look at Mike Mews face. Mike Mew has near PERFECT model Lower Third. But if you look at his father you will be shocked, Mike Mew has practiced what he has preached for many years and now you can see the result!

>>8526147
I bet you invested in chainlink as well.

>>8526117
LOL nice bait faggot.

All of your bone sutures fuse by adulthood.

>>8526122
>Mandible not small
>Had to remove wisdom teeth

Pick one you brainlet. I have not removed any of my wisdom teeth, you think it's magic? Come to Lookism and we will see, people will laugh at your face for calling Mewing quackery!

>>8526147
Mike pls go

>>8526143

>>8526143
>People like you who have completely rejected western medicine
Western people have terrible teeth and malocclusion for a fucking reason you idiot! It is a NEW phenomena! Why do african tribes who have NOT been introduced to soft food had their teeth become crooked?!

You are denying that tongue have anything to do with the development of the maxilla, that is fucking retarded. You know NOTHING.

>>8526174
I browsed lookism enough and I suggest that you go back there, though I'm afraid even they are much more sensible in their theories there. You might be laughed at for your bigotry.
I bet you unironically use the term 'forward growth' as well, don't you

>>8526224
Okey then I will give you 1 shot to reck me HARD right now. Why do western people have terrible malocclusion?

Give me an answer to that simple question and I will drop everything.

Wtf the fuck have I created?

>>8526239
Because Le 56% face?

>>8526248
I spent time and energy on trying to redpill you. If you don't take any of my advice, then you deserve every bad thing that the fucking dentist will do to you.

I have given you many arguments. Now it's your choice to do the right thing. Funny how not a single person ITT have given 1 reason to the malocclusion pandemic. Not 1 reason, whereas I have given multiple.

>>8526279
well shit

>>8526220
Back up your claims with some scientific, peer reviewed data. Otherwise go join the anti-fluoridists over in the insane asylum.

>>8526347
SHREKT

>>8526220

>african people not eating soft food
>diet literally consists of cornmeal porridge and salad
>don't eat high amounts of refined shit and sugar as most people in the west
>high death rates = ones with better genetics are more likely to survive

Do you think they're chewing on fucking bark over there?

Kek

Oh dentistry, what a sick fucking scam. The whole industry is a cash cow, I have had many teeth taken out, and some are decayed due to my own addiction to sugary drinks of course. The last time I went to the dentist I had to have a root canal, I have been to many dentists and they all fail miserably and the fact they dont give a flying fuck about you makes them lazy and unconcerned. These days I rarely indulge in sugary products and mainly drink water, my teeth still look like shit but I dont let that interfere with my confidence or self esteem. Stop looking at advertisements on perfect teeth and stop reading up on how women are turned off by bad teeth it is not the end of the world and it is not the only ugly feature you have that they will judge you upon. Oh and a bit of advice, I heard seamen is a great substitute for toothpaste you should try it OP.

>>8526433
I said AFRICAN TRIBES WHO HAVE NOT BEEN INTRODUCED TO WESTERN STYLE FOOD.

>>8526445
idiots like you and this retard >>8526447
are what keeps me employed, so thanks senpai

>>8526445
semen*

>>8526465
Your days are counted you fucking scam artist! You are fucking up peoples faces for a quick buck! You never fix ANYTHING. You ruin peoples faces, modern western faces are melting because of the lack of support from the tongue! Palates are very small and sleep apnea (because of mouth breathing) is getting more prevalent!

>>8526447

African tribes and other "westernized" africans eat the same shit you fucking idiot. And my post was implying that it doesn't matter whether they eat soft food or not, Africans in general have better teeth no matter their background. There are studies that examine Africans and their enamel being generally thicker than other phenotypes, which is why they have low rates of tooth decay. They don't have thick enamel and white teeth because they eat "hard food", which they don't.

Are you starting to see why everything you say is fucking autismal?

>>8526220
>You are denying that tongue have anything to do with the development of the maxilla
I'm not denying that the tongue plays a role in skeletal formation but I'm saying you can't just fix a malocclusion by changing your diet and telling a growing pre-teen to push their tongue against their palate. It's a little more complicated than that. Feel free to link me to some literature if you want to support the nonsense you're spouting.

>>8526445
>dentistry is a scam
Sounds like if it wasn't for dentists pulling and fixing your rotting fucking teeth you'd be in quite a bit of pain and/or poor health with infected teeth and gums.
>I have neglected my teeth and expect the dentist to care about my own teeth more than I do.
Your outlook is pretty retarded, sorry bro. Also people won't stop liking symmetrical, white teeth because it's a sign of good health that we're hard wired to be attracted to.

>>8526224
Out of ALL the different looksmaxing theories that circle Lookism, Mewing is by FAR the most widely accepted one! No other theory is as accepted as Mewing, everyone agrees on it. The only debate some people have over it, is wether or not Mewing is beneficial in adult hood for improving the face, thats it!

Mewing has been accepted and regarded as truth for many, many years long before Lookism, during the Sluthate days. No looksmaxing theory is as legit.

>>8526614
Read this: http://claimingpower.com/jaw-development/

The site seems a bit buggy, but the text is still readable.

Also, read about Weston Price and his theory on the Western malocclusion epidemic.

>>8526614
You know that the Masseter is a MUSCLE! The harder you chew and the more you use it, it WILL GROW! Western people NEVER use their Masseter as much as we should. Brad Pitt has a perfect masseter, he probably chewed the shit out of it.

>>8525524
>>8525728
>>8525855

This is a dumb as Steve Jobs being taken in by curing cancer with drinking tea. One more low-IQ pseudo science snake-oil theory to trap the desperate.

"just wish it and it will be so"

Wrong. Make real physical changes with a clear understanding of how the mechanism works.

If the roof of your house is starting to collapse would you think it could go back to straight and leak free just by putting on new wallpaper and boiling a pot of water?
"hurr but thois way is easier" there is such a thing as just being plain wrong, and that is what this theory is.

>>8526621

>>8526621

I was fine before the fucker started putting his instruments of torture in my mouth. This "Hard-wired" attraction is a another joke from the people who sure do love "Surveys" put yourself in a position where you are outnumbered by the opposite sex or ensure proper lubrication of their mind using alcohol and your good to go. Sure we would all love nice white symmetrical teeth but the fact is that's not reality and anybody who thinks the end goal in life is to have straight teeth is a fool that deserves to lose their shekels.

>>8526799
You didn't dispute ANYTHING I said, and your analogy makes no sense in this case. Give the cause for crooked teeth and I rest my case.

>>8526849
Provide evidence that holding your tongue to the roof of your mouth can change how facial bones grow.

>>8526901
I linked to Mike Mews lecture and everything is mentioned there, are you stupid? Or are you currently examining your downward grown face, with your narrow palate and low Zygos, crying over what COULD have been only if you had known the truth when you were younger? HAHAHA

>>8526834
You said you had an addiction to sugary drinks. You weren't "fine." You had fucked teeth and needed help, ingrate.

>>8524497
6K is too much. Come to the US if you can its a lot less expensive. I got my braces off last year, cost 4 thousand total including retainers. That extra tooth would cost you less than 2k in the states. Why is everything so expensive in Canada ffs. You could even go to Mexico and do it for half the price of the US cost as well.

>>8524883
Nice, I'm so glad I got braces as well. My front tooth gap was no joke maybe 4 times the size of yours, now I look like a normal human.

>>8527203
You call that "nice"? I don't mean to be rude, but his palate looks comically tiny and he will most likely have to wear retainers for the rest of his life. He should have expanded his palate before anything else. This is the problem, modern dentist don't really want to help people. They only want to make a quick buck. A real dentist would have expanded his palate first. His palate is so small that I bet he can't even fit his own tongue on the roof of his mouth.

I only say this to help people, I don't want to hurt people.

>>8527236
>tfw zygolet

>>8527236
Its definitely better than it was before. It does look better, I dont assume everyone has fucking perfect superman genetics and I'm not comparing a normal human to the peak of whatever race they are. So yes I think it is nice that he got quite a drastic improvement faggot.

>>8527301
>Genetics
THAT'S THE PROBLEM! It's NOT about genetics. People don't have malocclusion and small palate because of genetics. His and many other peoples problems could be avoided if they only knew about the importance of nose breathing, hard chewing and tongue pushing from an early age.

>>8527236
There is a limitation, especially in adulthood, to how much the teeth can be moved without causing possible damage to the roots of the teeth and if his palate was expanded any more he'd likely have spaces between the upper teeth (which would look like shit and would cause food impaction) and the upper teeth would then be badly misaligned with the lower teeth for a normal occlusion.

>>8527321
>If I just wish for straight teeth hard enough, it will come true.
It has everything to do with genetics, brainlet. One of the first thing an orthodontist does before proposing a treatment plan is to get a look at the parents and learn about their history and what they look like to get a projection of what the kid will look like without any intervention.

>>8527321
>if they only knew about the importance of nose breathing, hard chewing and tongue pushing from an early age.
Yeah I'm sure this would be a really productive conversation one could have with a 9 year old. Jesus Christ you are a lunatic. I know that in person it would be easy for someone to identify you as a psychopath but here I worry that your advice will have a negative impact on someone's health. Kindly stop posting, my deranged ESL friend.

>>8527321
Ok Ok anon, I'll look into the stuff you posted, relax ffs.

>>8527430
>Yeah I'm sure this would be a really productive conversation one could have with a 9 year old.
You are mental and I hope you never have children. You don't think parents tell their children to walk straight? Eat healthy and brush their teeth?

HOW is that different from telling your child to close their mouth, breath through their nose, give them hard food (no big macs) and swallow correctly? It will save them from having to pay for braces AND having their children develop a deformed face.

Many children today become mouth breathers because of allergies, you have to identify the cause of the allergy, get rid of the thing and HELP your child breath through its nose.

>>8527451
I'm not doing this for me, I want people to be aware for their own sake.

>>8527236
thank you anon,
actually my dentist told me my jaw is small thats thats why my teeth fucked up,
im happy with my teeth now,
atleast it give me a bit self confidence.
before i really dont want to go outside and talk to people,
im currently wearing retainers.

>>8527663
I'm glad you are at least happier now.

>>8527500
>You are mental and I hope you never have children. You don't think parents tell their children to walk straight? Eat healthy and brush their teeth?
No I don't think that. I'm a dentist so I see dozens of patients every day. I think trying to tell a child that it is their responsibility to fix their malocclusion by chewing harder on their food or tongue thrusting is irresponsible and in some cases could be downright negligent. On top of that, it sounds ridiculous to even suggest because none of what you are recommended is accepted medical science.

Children become mouth breathers because they have insufficient skeletal development of which genetics is the major contributor. It has nothing to do with allergies. Please seek help.

>>8527725
>It has nothing to do with allergies. Please seek help.
You need to get your brain examined because you got serious troubles buddy boy!

>Brazilian researchers investigating the prevalence of mouth breathing in children ages three to nine found that a 55% random selection of 370 subjects were mouth-breathers. 2 Reported causes of mouth breathing included: allergic rhinitis (81.4%)


https://www.oralhealthgroup.com/features/mouth-breathing-physical-mental-emotional-consequences/

You are HURTING peoples lives. You are causing a lot of suffering. How can you sleep at night? You are ruing peoples faces.

>>8527776
>Brazilian researchers
Even if they aren't using circular logic to identify people who claim to have allergies among people who are self diagnose mouth breathing, that doesn't offer any solution for correcting a malocclusion they might have already developed.

>>8527899
I'm not mainly talking about correcting, but to prevent malocclusion. That is much more important. Many people are hopeless, and fixing teeth by pushing your tongue up on the roof of your mouth 24/7 is not possible for most people. It is really hard, I have tried for 5 years and only now am I pushing it at 90% of the time, although I don't know how I'm doing when I'm sleeping.

Many people don't even have room to place the tongue on the roof so they are forced to lower their tongue. This should mainly be thought to children. Malocclusion is not fun, mouth breathing is not fun, downward growing face is not fun, pulling wisdom teeth is not fun. All of this CAN be prevented.

PLASTER your fucking tongue on the roof of your mouth and swallow correctly.

This is a dental FUD thread

from what i can see invisalign is by the far the best treatment because it doesn't pull the teeth back like braces and actually expands the palate a little

anyone here had it done?

>>8524497
LA CREATURA

>>8525571
Do you accept dentacoins for services?

Is there any side effect for having teeth planted? Can I have molars planted?

Are dentures already good enough?

>>8524860
>invest 20k in crypto
>be a millionaire in two years
or
>spend 20k on some vain crap no one gives a shit about because you're autistic anyway
>die poor

>>8525855
bump
i love medical redpills

>>8524497
>>braces cost $6000 and will take between 1.5 - 2 years to finish their job.
>>he told me that if I did want to get a prosthetic tooth, it would cost me an extra $4000.
>braces cost $6000 and will take between 1.5 - 2 years to finish their job.
10 grand?
for that money you can travel to east europe - spend a month on holiday, have your teeth fixed and still probably 5k in your hands