/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>8464920
this isn't /r9k/, but the answer is no - unless you hit 25 without making any real progress. after that, you're fucked.

Nope... I was 26 and still a virgin. What salvaged me was taking a trip to Thailand under the (to my friends and family) pretend of making a scuba diving license there (which I also did) but I was banging hoes for every day 5 weeks straight and came back as a chad. Not even larping. My only regret is I married a woman and can't repeat this anytime soon :(

If you pay me 0.5 BTC I will get you a long-term girlfriend. This is an open offer to any virgin incel type.

I'm 100% serious. You have to be willing to make change though.

>>8464920
If he could do it so can you. You have no excuse.

>>8464920
For 2.5 btc I can get you married to a hot Russian girl no LARP

>>8464920
I didn't lose my virginity til I was 22, and scored a girl way above my league. Don't give up.

>>8464997
what a stupid nigger lmao go beg somewhere else your "chad" knowledge is basically fucking free

>>8465026
No chad knowledge, I'll come and meet you in person though
You're mad but why

>>8465017
being famous has more social value to women than anything most guys have, OP can't even compare

>>8464920
That's fucking nothing, normie. I'm 24. At this point I don't even feel bad about it anymore. I hope I die before 30.

>>8464920
I spent whole highschool time worrying I'll never see a pussy in my life. It's amazing how fast I scored once I stopped thinking about it and just followed whatever interested me at the moment.

Don't give up Anon. Take care of yourself, learn new stuff and try to enjoy life. It will come.

>>8464920
No, in fact dating under 20 is weird and exploratory.

>>8464963
>Thailand

They know, anon. They know.

>>8464920
/adv/

Get a dating app, start hitting the gym, and buy some nice clothes. Better shape + new look = confidence when going out on that date.

Get a match. Never message a girl until she's messaged you back. Don't message back right away, wait 30 minutes - 2 hours so she thinks you're doing something interesting instead of fapping to Senpaitachi's Waifu Sniffers 9 again. Keep the conversation moving with questions, sound interesting, don't be too available.

Before you walk into whatever sandwich shop that you and this semen demon have agreed upon meeting, remind yourself that literally no one is looking at you or gives a fuck what you do, because they're worried everyone else is doing the same. First date, play it cool, just give surface level answers to her questions and ask easy questions.

>>8465486
Good answer.

>>8465486
Also this on technical level

>>8464963

How much money did you spend? Looking for a cheap place to hole up for the year, minus some of the whores.

>>8465486
why do you nerds think so hard about this jesus christ.

>>8464944
Your lucky . When things change, you will get a wizard card.

no. i lost my virginity at 19. i met a girl at a nightclub and we dated for 4+ years

>>8465190
with that attitude i hope you do too

>>8465344
normie
first and only time i had was with 25

>>8466449
25 what

>>8464920

nah this kind of thing is becoming increasingly common in western countries, install tinder and go on a few dates till you figure out how to interact with girls and you'll be fine.

>>8464920
Nah. You clearly haven't really been trying. Get back to me when you've been actively dating for years yet still can't manage to get into a relationship.

>>8464920
That is awesome - great photo

>>8464920
You have plenty of time left. I am 30 and was never on a date or had a gf. If i need sex i pay...

Seriously just go to Asia

>>8464997
post pic bby

>>8464920
Almost 30 wizard here. Porn keeps me satiated. I have normal social interactions every day. I think you will be fine.

what's the story with the pic and the slut in it? did anon find some of her leaked nudes and is showing all good girls are sluts or what? so many questions

>>8467122
You can't become a wizzard if you're not continent bro
hate to break it to you

Be happy you are a wizard OP

Women are like cryptos, when you hit your stack target it is never enough - just a bit more and more. You never cash out and end up holding bags.

Same with women, hence why I've been Fucking a Polish girl behind my girlfriend's back for a few months and I feel bad but I c ant stop.

>>8467122
yea same here, thank god the internet is an endless sea of porn so there is really no need to have a gf in 2018.

Dating is virtually impossible unless you fit certain criterias - There are too many attractive and socially capable ppl nowadays.

Just do what Cambridge Analytica CEO says, get yourself a beautiful Ukrainian girl with money.

>>8464944
fugg 1year and 4 days remaining
not gonna make it

yeah i dont get it either desu

i feel pretty fucked

>>8465486
This guy nailed it. I didn't have a date until 22, had my first gf at 23. The only thing I'd add is to smile and seem happy. Girls feed off your energy, if you are a nervous, miserable wreck they can sense it and it will make them uncomfortable. That is exactly how I actually felt but by smiling and laughing I was able to fool her.

>>8464920
It's state of mind dependent not age dependent.
You're fucked as long as you keep up your current loser mindset.

There are a fuck load of variables that have to line up, especially in our modern culture that dictates you find the best person for you and not just the first or most convenient because just getting married is the thing to do

You have to both be single and emotionally available and in the right place to meet at the right time, in the right frame of mind. You have to have enough of the same interests that you feel similar enough to get along but different enough to keep each other interested; you have to both think the other person is attractive; you have to have personalities that mesh such that you both want to get to know each other, and that factors in everything about your past emotional experiences and your sense of humor and how you interact with other people; you have to both line up at least somewhat in your sexual preferences; you have to both have similar goals (are you looking to keep dating a person?); etc., etc., etc.

And if all of those things don’t line up and feel magical, well there’s always another person so why keep trying with this one, say all the swipe apps

It’s a god damn ducking miracle anyone ends up together desu

>>8464963
Fuck man I'm still a virgin but my best friend got his first girlfriend 6 months ago and it only lasted for 2 months but since then he's been in alpha mode hooking up with multiple women in bars etc (he showed pics). He invited me to go with him but I fucking hate bars I would rather stay home and smoke weed + play mmorpg's/program but whatever man I'm just going to drink some before going and get shitfaced drunk. I still got 8 years before I'm 26 so I hope I'm good, I'm pretty autistic though desu like for example a friend in my college got a girlfriend and recognized me on the street and introduced her to me and I shook her hands and apparently I gripped them so hard she hurt her hand like she said it hurt and her face was that of hurt that shit was so fucking awkward man seriously makes me want to go lifeskill in BDO and not even bother with it anymore

>>8468120
this is the way i feel too

it might sound stupid and that im being lazy/dont want to fix myself, but jesus christ can't someone just like me for who i am?

I'd say ive done average in everything, a bit above average in somethings, but overall pretty average.

>>8468157
how does anyone get into relationships seriously?

are most relationships just heavy on compromise? I know plenty of people who don't do nearly as much yet have relationships.

Maybe my expectations are too high?

>>8464920
>I'm 20 and never been on a date or had a girlfriend. Am i fucked /biz/?
I am 20 and am with my first gf.

ask away.

>>8468157
chances are a girl is interested in you but you turned her down because she wasn't good enough for you
if you want someone better you have to improve

>>8468541
how did you meet her?

>>8464920
I was virgin til 34 then I banged like 30 escorts and became confident with women. Now have gfs and laid whenever I want for free.

>>8464920
How the fuck you manage to stay a virgin with 20.

I can understand if you are trying to stay a virgin but from your post I feel like this isn't the case.


1. Are you ugly?
2.Social outcast?

>>8468570
no girl has ever talked to me outside of buisness interactions or anything of the such

i come across as quiet and reserved, with a constantly grouchy face

perhaps thats it?

no really im willing to take ANY girl, not saying that it will work out, ill give anyone a chance.

>>8468714
have you tried meetups? tinder? anything? friends?
you have to take initiative they don't just fall in your lap

>>8464920
yeah probably, cause early gfs didn't teach you how monstrous women can be, so you'll just get fucked by their old tricks in the prime of your life instead of when youre in HS.

>>8464920
i am female and i lost my virginity at 23. Have never had a boyfriend until college.

>>8464944
well im fucked

>>8466310
I mean that's the best post I've seen in trying to help the tfw no gfs of this board

>>8468759
biological female or "female" ?

>>8468734
hes like Elliot Rodger - he just expects girls to come up to him and ask him to fuck them and wonders why they don't

>>8468801
>>8468734
Well I really dont care about sex I just want a girl to act nice to me, make me feel special i guess.

Pornography does sex better anyways probably.

But yeah good point. I probably am just expecting people to come to me.

I guess its not how things work so im just going to off myself. See you guys

>>8468801
I have autism and cant relate with noone

22 yo virgin
I wish i could live life as a spectator. I wish i could disappear completely. I can't look at people in the eyes. I can't ever find anything interesting to say.

>>8465410
jesus christ this place is pathetic

>>8468881
do some normie things so you can relate to them.
if you can't stand it then just use hookers & stay alone

>>8464944
Nah. Know some virgin wizards who made it in their 30's. Though if you don't make it in your 20's you should probably change everything about your life to make it in your 30's. Cause if not you're going to become an hero.

Hugh Hefner was a virgin until 22

>>8469129
I always remember that fact when I get sad. 2 more years I have I guess

>>8464920
The not EVER dating part puts you a little behind the 8 ball, but not having a girlfriend and being a virgin at twenty is not the end for the world.

When I was 20 I was convinced I was untouchable, and would never have sex. When I got to 23 I was a wreck, mentally. How could I ever continue with life when I was not even operating in the same world as everyone else. Girls would laugh at me of I ever got naked in front of them, I wouldn't know what to do in bed.

I lost my virginity at 24, and my sex drive and confidence were reawakened. Being below average in the penile department? Irrelevant. My first time was great, I had lots of good sex in the years since then.

Don't worry. There's so much time, even if you feel left behind.

>>8467954
fake it till you make it

>>8469387
everyone can sense a fake character, its cringy as fuck

>>8469446
as opposed to being "a nervous, miserable wreck"?

almost wizard status but sister's wedding with her thirsty friends might be a bit troubling

>>8468128
dude you're literally 18, you can still fix your autism, I'm not gonna tell you how, what I am gonna tell you is that the older you get from now on, the more you're going to regret not having done anything about your autism sooner

no offense but I'm pretty sure I had a far worse life than you did (both parents are deadbeat junks, have a history of psychosus and even had cancer a few years ago, luckily just Stage I) and even I have managed to fix my life and am at least able to pretend that I'm a normie for my friends/family, if I can do it then god damn it anybody who's not literally disabled can as well

>>8464920
I'm 26 and have never even touched a woman in my life. I wish I could be 20 again

>>8468573
i met her at my workplace

>WAAAAH I'M SINGLE

Fuck off with this. If you really wanted to date someone, you would go out and fucking do it.
There's MILLIONS of women out there. You're just being too stuck up.

this isn't /fit/

that being said I can't say much. Same situation except I did lose my virginity at 22 and had a gf briefly at that time.

Do what >>8468734. Gotta make the opportunities happen, kouhai.

why not go fuck a hooker? Get it out of your system. After a while you won't even care anymore.

>>8464920
No, you're not fucked. Here's what I've learned from my own experience: if you're having this kind of problem, it's probably because of some combination of you being uncomfortable with your own sexuality, you being uncomfortable with women's sexuality, and you not knowing what to do.
Not knowing what to do isn't a big problem. To get laid, you have to 1) interact with women, and 2) be in sexual mode while interacting with them - basically, this means being aroused. But of course, you have to be aroused not in a creepy hard-up way, but in a relaxed way. So you have to become comfortable with your own sexuality, that'll let you be aroused around girls while in relaxed sexual mode (which is basically what flirtation is). How to become comfortable with your own sexuality? It's largely a physical skill. You would be comfortable already, if there wasn't anxiety arising in potentially sexual situations. Anxiety generally starts in the mind, and then fucks up the relaxed state of the body. Use cognitive therapy methods on yourself to figure out what sort of assumptions and thoughts, if any, are causing the anxiety and use stuff like deep, slow breathing and practicing being aware of your body to work on how anxiety is triggered and what happens afterward. You need to put yourself in situations where you're going to be around women so you can work on this.
Some examples of assumptions that might be fucking you up are: "It's not ok for me to feel sexual feelings" (why not? it's just biological and almost every adult human feels it) or "Women are not sexual" (many of them obviously are - often they are highly sexual) or "No woman would be interested in me" (how do you know unless you try to find out?).

>>8464920
Cont.
As for women's sexuality: basically, first you should realize that there's an abundance of women out there and that most women are sexual. As you get more experience with sex, you'll become more attuned to how women are sexual.
As I've said, this is just based on my own experience and I can't offer any guarantees unfortunately.
Now, what about looks? Well, I'm not gonna try to bullshit you, if you are really ugly/obese things will probably be hard. But I mean really ugly, like 3/10 or less. Chances are, you're just average. If you're average, even a bit on the ugly side, you should be fine. But you have to try.

why is it always about sex for you guys

cant you just hire a hooker or watch some porn

i just want someone to appreciate me for who i am and spend time together

the pain is so heavy

>>8470213
I wanted that too, my girlfriend fucking left me for my mental issues.We're back together now but whenever I need any help for anything or just ask her to treat me well she tells me she doesn't give a fuck about me anymore. For some reason she hasn't left me but I have no idea what the future holds.

lived to 29 without so much as a kiss on the lips
then lost my virginity to a virgin teenager and we've been in a loving relationship with an active sex life ever since (it's been years)
getting with a girl is a lottery where the odds are stacked against the house: you get millions of tries and you only need to win once

>>8470287
she wants your money or is in some other way getting something out of you

the point is if you need her more than you need her she always will fuck you up

>>8470287
doesn't sound like a very healthy relationship. Why do you stick around with someone who's clearly a toxic person?

>>8470287
fucking leave her oh my god

she's only gonna make you feel worse, maybe much worse

women are literally dime a dozen, if you've managed to get yourself a gf you'll do so again ffs, don't let a woman corner you into a state of being like that

>>8464920

29 here, same. I fuck hot sluts off Seeking Arrangement and I fuck sweet church-going girls and give them weed for it. They lick my loads off their purity rings ffs. It ain't that difficult.

>>8467954
Same

I'm 25 and I've never been on a date, or had a girlfriend, or been kissed, or held a hand with a girl.

>>8470363
yeah but arent you bothered no one actually cares about you, they just want sex?

>>8470360
this. Women are like buses. There's another one coming along in 10 minutes. If you think that this is the only woman who will ever take her clothes off for you, you're a fool.

>>8468603
“Free”

>>8470213

I'm sorry, but you have to murder this part of yourself. You won't get what you want in this day and age. Your ideal qt is getting fucked bareback by strangers in bathroom stalls and by the time she wants you, it will be out of desperation and she will have lost her ability to pair-bond years ago.

>>8470402
yeah but he wants osmething meaningful

>>8468734
I don’t have tinder because I’m an autist tin foil hat type about my online data

>>8464920
I was a kissless virgin until 19 , once I lost my virginity it was too easy to begin dating different girls. I’m married now and I don’t even feel a thing that I lost my virginity late. Never too late anon

>>8470399

They want money and weed, not just to get fucked hard and do freaky shit they won't do with their future husbands. The fact that I fuck them like I hate them is just a bonus for them.

That's what women want. Resources and hard fucks. Stop deifying them.

>>8469545
I feel you man

The best possible advice I can give you guys is that people don't know what you know. If you own yourself and act like you were gonna do that anyway then why would they ever know. I hope this gives you guys the power to do what you think is impossible because the only person that thinks it's impossible is you.

>>8470287
I know you must be emotionally attached to her or feel you may never get pussy again, but it’s healthier for you to not contact her after you break up again. Can you imagine once you get married and have kids and she pulls some blushing like that? It would literally destroy you.

>>8470287
>I have no idea what the future holds.

With her. Pain. Suffering, Suicide. She's the one causing your mental issues faggot. Get rid.

“Women - you gotta treat em like shit.”
t. President Trump


Listen to the Boss you hopeless virgin pussybois ! The older you get the more you value peace and not being bothered by the BS chicks vent all the time. Seriously women are mentally deficient meat holes that are there for the taking. It’s not that hard to fuck them if you’re not a total waste of life loser.

>>8469129
>>8469148
LOLLLLLL WHAT THE FUCK KIND
>HUGH HEFNER WAS A VIRGIN TIL 22
YES, IT WAS 1948 AHAHAHAHA I DONT REMEMBER EVER READING SOMETHING THIS PATHETIC

>>8464920
>TFW 35 years old
>My wife of 8 years still didn't have sex with me and I've heard every line in the book
>"Headache, Migraine, period, Stomach ache"
>"I don't feel like it, Sad, Depressed"
>The one time I went beserk and almost raped her she threatened me that she would call the cops on me and got her brother to beat me up
>Her fucking son looses his virginity even before I do

Getting a wife was a fucking mistake honestly If bitcoin doesn't take off and make me a millionaire so I can finally lose my virginity I'm just going to kill myself before I hit 40.

>>8470734
hahaha nice LARP.

>>8470637
treat 'em like shit and they keep coming back for more

>>8470734
Hooker. Easy fuck. You are a dumb fuck.

>>8464920
PROBABLY LARP, IF NOT WHO GIVES A FUCKING SHIT. GO BUY SOME WHORES!

>>8470734
Larp. No one is this pathetic

>>8470875
i wouldn't be so sure

> self made billionaire
> tv star
> potus

you know this guy is “””propably””” right

>>8470845
>Risk your wife finding out you cheated and having to pay 50% for life,

Nah

>>8470769
>>8470875
I googled LARP and it seems some sort of game. No it's not a game, would push reset if it was.

Hi cia

>>8471005
Why the fuck would you marry someone with a fucking kid without fucking them first?
It's not like she's super christian and waiting for marriage to have sex, she has a kid.
That should have been a huge red flag for you, why is she unwilling to fuck you?
Are you just the cashcow for her and her kid to get fed?

>>8471450
She didn't have the kid yet when I started dating her.

>>8464920
I don't understand why anyone cares so much about such a thing.
It's like people worship women and think fucking one will solve all of their problems.
Entire communities obsess over their incapability to find women who will spread their legs for them.
I'm not even MGTOW, I just find it pathetic that so many men base their own self-worth on what women think of them.
I'm not advocating being a worthless neet, but have some ambition in something beyond simply finding a women that tolerates you enough to spread her legs.

>>8465017
>>8465165
This. Plus they're both ugly anyway

>>8466356
i'm a wizard since 3 months but i still don't have any magical powers, when do they come usually?

>>8471450
>>8471568
Forgot to mention that I've been in a relationship with her for almost 17 years but only married for 8 due to her being catholic and I was protestant so it took a while before we finally got married.

Her son is 15 and lost his virginity to his girlfriend.

>>8471638
>I've been in a relationship with her for almost 17 years
>Her son is 15
Anon, I have bad news

>>8464920
Sauce? Looks like a girl I know

>>8464920
I never knew I had this fetish until now.

If you post more I won't report you for off topic.

>>8471689
Nah I know it looks bad but she wasn't a virgin and had sex before sperm can survive a very long time in the womb and while statistically unlikely it sometimes happen that women get pregnant a year after the sex occurred.

>>8468739
hahahaha this so fucking much. If you haven't dated anyone when you are 22, the fucking lag you have in relationship knowledge is going to crush you

>>8471719
Did she tell you that m8?
And she had her son 2 years after you started dating, so even if that were true, the math still dose'nt add up.
How much money do you make?
Dose she work?

>>8464920
I sometimes wonder how the fuck OP exists. I lost my virginity at 14, dated multiple roasties until 18,settled down now at 22 with aryan goddess

>>8464920
I'm sure you didn't have a masculine figure while growing up. Find one, and do all you can to become a true man. Once you start elevating yourself in the social hierarchy, you will start to consider females as females, ie as people who need you for protection and care and emotional stability. You will stop being scared by women because when you will talk to them, it will be as if you were talking to a child. You will understand that in the end, they are just lost kid who, behind their independence agenda, need a stability figure to project on. Start behaving like a men, not violent and aggressive, but temperate, dominant, confident and protective.

I didnt realize people on this board was this pathetic.

>p-porn is better than sex anyway, even though i never tried it!

>>8464920
You can still make it if you just get in on some ICOs.

MDL is an easy 10x.

>>8464920
25 y virgin here. For many years i've been seriously ill so during my teenage years and high school i had little interaction with people with the same age. Because of that i was in a state of clinical depression for years, developed social anxiety and couldn't even speak to grills. Lately things got better and i see that girls are intreested in me, but i feel absolutely nothing for them. I went on a date with a 9/10 girl once after which she texted me that it was so cool and wanted more, but i really felt nothing and told her that we should just stop. I think i'm just broken after many years of depression and loneliness.

>>8468120
Thats putting into words what I couldn't. Great powers of description.
One other thing you need is to be able to describe things well, I didn't develop this skill because I always ignored English lessons because of the "English? pfft what a pointless subject I already speak English" meme.

Now all I can do is build tech things and grunt and hope that this somehow makes a girl fall in love

>>8471787
Lel someone has been watching Peterstein videos. Clean your room anon.

My only goal in life is to be kissed by a woman who genuinely loves me. After that I can die.

27 years old, never had sex, never want to

>>8473029
Why would you like to kiss your mother?

>>8470408

Shut the fuck up you huge retard

>>8471787

Kys you closet faggot

>>8464920
20 here too
Every day I wonder how should I go about fixing this yet do nothing

>>8468739
Fuck, this sounds so true it hurts.