/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>8400278
god, sc2-3-4 was so comfy. I never try cities skylines tho

>>8400278
Tsun na Kanojo Dere na Kanojo

>>8400318
Cities skylines is the true successor to SC4, there's a shitload of mods like SC4 but it focus more on building an aesthetic city rather than management and shit

>>8400348
Cities Skyline is crap. There's no challenge whatsoever, just lay down roads and watch your city grow. Sure you can make some really sweet looking cities with amazing road systems but it feels like you're just plopping it down.

Sim City required constant planning, patience, a careful balance of city services, and your city constantly grew not just because of thoughtless expansion but because you were constantly demolishing, rebuilding and improving your inner city as well. Getting a large, functioning metropolis felt like an accomplishment, in Cities Skyline it just feels like a matter of time.

Patrician

>>8400278
That Donald Trump Tycoon game

>>8400278
RuneScape

I play a ton of League of Legends

>>8400348
the only great thing about csl is curvy roads.
however in city cuilding roads that bend is really important

>>8400428
The problem with SC4 is the bugs that EA never let Maxis fix, so no matter what your city is going to fall apart due to the eternal commuter bug and problems with the game engine that cause crashing

>>8400456
>BLACKED

Fuck all this pussy shit... Rome total war or medieval total war

>>8400278
Terraria

>>8400428
freeform builders were never really about business. sc4's main challenge wasnt balancing the budget, it was managing commute times.
csl doesnt have rigorous gameplay, that isnt good. but the time spent building major cities is ungodly, so it was always about aesthetics.

Anything with an auction house.

>>8400745
its all fun and games until cash shop

factorio is legit biz tier good times

port royale is maybe the game with the most jewish feeling to it, maybe industry giant II too

The open market of warframe in 2016 (haven't played since early 2017 so I dunno if something changed) is one of the reasons I realized that slaving away forever isn't a way to live
I made so much plat just buying low and selling high
interacting with "people" really makes you realize things

>>8400826
I'm a memorylet, -1 both years.
Anyone still in? My mountain of ember prime sets worth anything?

Patricians choice : Pharaoh. Available for free as it is 1999 game in abandonware state

>>8400278

The Guild 2, one of the best business sim games ever made

>>8400278
>nobody mentioned Capitalism 2
Bunch of retarded faggots

>>8400858
yeah these city building games from Sierra were awesome, together with Zeus & Poseidon, Caesar and Emperor

>>8400875
was cesar III good?

>>8400858
impressions games are all incredibly good. also children of the nile by tilted mill.
dont think too hard though, or youll realise the economies in these games are 100% communist

>>8400872
>>8400456
cant even into thread

>>8400456
>blacked
>pillage

Looks realistic.

>>8400891
yes. its the hardest of them all

Unironically modded Minecraft. Comfy with tons of resource management, great to play in between work and trading.

>>8400861
>the guild

Biggest deception ever, it is like SC4, you can never bankrupt, you just watch your business grow and the AI shitting on you trying to turn that game into a RTS, plus the most profitable business models are the stupidest ones (selling bones and thieving).

But it's a comfy game tho, but it's definitely not a good business management game, more like the sims.

>>8400278
bhopping in cs 1.6

>>8400858
I fuck with this

Open TTD
Rise of Industry
Transport Fever

>>8400774
then it's funnner

It's an older game, but East India Company was a fun /biz/ game.

Load your ships up in Europe, off to India to trade and pick up your spices. Ship battles with those who are trying to steal your stuff, taking over cities to lower your net costs.

>>8401238
depends on what they sell on cash shop.
the publishers can fuck the entire auction market over if they feel like it

>>8400278
Ultima Online classic.
Quake 1.

>>8401264
pirates!
not a strict biz game, but the goal is to amass gold and land, so not far off

Running an arbitrage bot on gaiaonline before the economy became present day Zimbabwe.

>>8401333
I loved vendoring on gaia. I never set up a bot I just stared at the recently posted

>>8401264
It get boring pretty quickly.

Civ 5

Pizza Connection 2

the ultimate /biz/ game

locomotion

>>8400905
>he wants games to ignore troubled youths robbing department stores

cuck

>>8400318

This. Fuck CitiesXL, Skylines etc. Soul-less 3D crap.

>>8401860
basically a shitty railroad tycoon

>>8400797
This. You land on an alien planet and have to exploit its resources with increasingly complex industry with the end goal of building a rocketship. Your factories produce pollution which eventually aggros the indigenous aliens, so to protect your buildings you set up walls and turrets and attack drones. Sometimes you need to expand so you hop into a tank to go level one of the alien settlements.

It's an anarcho-capitalist wet dream.

>>8400858

Caesar III was so fucking comfy... I still remember booting it up the first few times.

>>8400278
Victoria 2.

>>8400474
seconding this
>>8400340
how so?

>>8400620
if you don't mean rome total war 1 you can suck my balls

Yakuza series. I don't even play other games.

>>8401987
EBIN GROSS GERMANIUMS

Tropico 4-5. cant wait for 6

>>8402097
Anyone playing Surviving Mars?

>>8402118
tried to but all these planet colonization sims taht are popping up are super dull

>>8402097
tropico 5 manual is platinum plated kek material

>>8402132
just play rimworld and dwarf fortress

>>8400278
EVE ONLINE. GTFO with this city building bullshit. I learned to trade in that fucking hell hole called Amarr. Every single scam that shows up in crypto was tried first in EVE. I heard about bitcoin 5 years ago talking to other traders. I'm almost retired from cyrpto because of what I learned in that game. One more good bull run and I'm done working for life. Fuckin sim city can suck my dick.

>>8401965
Fugg factorio is so fucking addictive tho, damn.

>>8402147
well rimworld is a different genre entirley, and can be fun for a few games

>>8400849
Looks cool. What is this?

>>8402194
pizza tycoon 1

pizza tycoon 2 is more detailed, see here:
>>8401580


but the pizza making is hard as fuck in 2 so 1 is easier

>>8401981
Caesar 3 was/is/forever will be amazing.

>>8402165
>only one more bullrun and im out
lel

>>8400278
Right now I'm playing another run on Oblivion, level 30 and been playing for a couple months or some shit. No time for Dota.

pic related is Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines, I install it on every format because you never know when you play through it again.

In the good ole times I used to play a lot of Quake and UT, getting too old for this shit tho

(btw this is a pretty lame screenshot from the tutorial of vtmb, don't judge the game by it)

>>8402231

Based oldfag.

>>8400474
Is there anything similar to this and current? I would like to try Darkfall but it seems like the good server is in burgerland and I'm from EU

>>8402165
Is the game still worth playing?

>>8402253
there isnt too much replay value tho. basically 1 non malk run and 1 malk run.
amazing ambience though, better than deus ex even

>>8400456
Classic

>>8402266
Not as well known and a fantasy spin on city building. Stronghold 1993 from SSI. Also a gem.

https://youtu.be/hSQ9I2xAD2g

>>8401914
ha
>thinks railroad tycoon is more comfy

>>8402253
I've played through it twice, both as malkavian because being crazy is too fun. Are any of the other families as interesting/fun dialog wise?

>>8402374
who said anything about comfy? its a better business game

>>8402311
I got too busy for it about 3 yeas ago. I played fairly heavy for 3-4 years. I mostly just traded and hauled shiny objects around. You can do anything you want to do in the game I just got hooked on the trading platform and the in game economics. Its referred to as spreadsheets in space for a reason.

>>8402392
nope, but the spellcaster ones get their own hideout

paradox vicky ii

The Anno series is good for you supply chain obssessed cucks

There’s also Tropico series where you can be Fidel Castro. Soundtrack is fooking amazing

Now if you really want to go old school play Caesar 3 on steam. Or check out Emperor:Rise of the Middle Kingdom.

>there are people on /biz/ who never traded their cattle on the market

Not gonna make it

>>8400891
All the impression games, Caesar 3 , pharaoh, Zeus, except for emperor is on steam. Caesar is fooking childhood memories

Classic everquest pvp private server project1999.com on red server

If you arent at least champ in rocket league your life is objectively shit.

>>8400620
shogun 2, but nice try

>>8402392
Malkavians are the ones with the most different dialogue options, nosferatu have a bit different gameplay though and it's what I'm playing next, after I finish the main quest on oblivion

>>8400278

>>8400630
Ive got this on steam but cba to install it. Looks like shitty-minecraft with too much going on...
Redpill me

>Ctrl+F
>Recettear
>zero (0) results

It's as if I'm not currently posting on a malaysian powerpoint usergroup

>>8402561

>It's a shitty-minecraft with too much going on

Good call

Currently playing Command and Conquer 2 or rather a modded add-on called "Mental Omega". Just for the OST by Frank Klepacki this game is pire gold *-*

franks adventure

>>8402542

>any total war sequel

Only the first Shogun, medieval, and Rome are good.

>>8402483
>america farmer
>netherlands flag

The bubble has truly popped, now that we're seeing these kinds of threads again

>>8402747
shogun 2 is not bad

crusader kings II.
aspies love it.

>>8402835
It's not over. It's just not exciting right now. It'll start again.

Dark Souls.
because it's Dark Souls.

>>8400549

fag

>>8400474
Old school RS Bros

Also The Sims 1, Rollercoaster Tycoon and Theme Park world.

>>8402835
fuck off faggot i've been here for two years and stacked more money on bitbean than you'll ever make pretending to be jordan belfort

This, also Stronghold, total war, hearts of iron

>>8401331

>>8403682
problem with total war is the time to recruit a unit is too fast 1-2 turns, so all you have to do is build eco and maybe defend then go nuts when ready since you save so much on troop upkeep.
hearts of iron 3 with black ice mod is sex

>tfw too stupid to play RTS or management games

Invest in businesses and improve your hr skills to get better deals on resources.

>>8400861
How do I get sons in Guilds 2? I keep getting daughters 100% of the time.

>>8403803
>HenryVIII.jpg

>>8400549
Fag

>>8403818
I need help. I think the game is bugged and I don't want to make more daughters.

>>8403904
have them get kidnapped and killed by bandits

>>8403682
holee shiet that game is ancient, but great.
one od the first strat games with real time battles

Theme Hospital for greatest economics

Caesar III also god-tier

http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/24114/Holiday+Island.html this beautiful piece of garbage teached me how to get rich 101

stardew valley. comfy

BETA TIER
>RTS games
>manage nothing, learn nothing, win anyway
NORMIE TIER
>Business management simulators (tycoon games)
>Balance microeconomic forces for your benefit
CHAD TIER
>Government management simulators (Sim City, Tropico)
>Balance macroeconomic forces for your benefit and gain insight into the fundamental nature of society
GOD TIER
>Kerbal Space Program
>Completely transcend economics and hammer out the logistics of an asteroid mining/space tourism business. Once you master the physical principles of such an operation, you will know how to invest your money when you're a billionaire.

>>8404241
>gain insight into the fundamental nature of society


kek'd

>>8402579
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN6D1TSMfBU
this. Recettear is the only correct answer

>>8401026
Nigger

>>8404241
You can mine asteroids now? Haven't played in forever. What tier is landing on Mun and returning safely?

>>8403682
>Stronghold
shiet I played that when i was 4 and couldnt get past the first lvl cause i didnt get how it worked and on top of it the game was in english n shieeeeet

>>8400278
mount and blade, if you use all mechanics, +diplomacy.
hearts of iron 3, and basically all paradox grand strategy games.
factorio, kerbal space program, prison architect.

>>8404791
Stellaris.
Try making a civilzation that spans dozens of colonised worlds, while balancing an economy and factions trying to overthrow you. Also tech is constantly changing, so you better be upgrading shit or you will get ass blasted when the klingons arrive

Also, this is a v. comfy thread. Why can't /biz/ always have threads like these?

>>8402311
No, you start now and you'll never be close to the no lives who've been playing it for years.

That's the shitty part of the game. The old groups run the entire game, they are so far ahead of everyone it's literally impossible to just start playing and make any progress.

>>8404873
ye, like I said, basically all paradox grand strategy games.

>>8404927
that's where the human part comes in, worming you way into groups and being paid by other groups to snitch info to them etc etc

gets pretty meta, I don't like how autistic eve people are

>>8400278

Runescape

>>8400474
I was the one who made the suggestion for the flashing alerts when a trade changed after I got fucked on a trade for almost my entire net worth (maybe this is the wrong place to brag about that given the prevalence of pump and dump).

I ended up building my stock back up and ended up with a huge house, dwarf cannon, and other miscellaneous crap before they nerfed free trade and I quit.

>>8403682
>Lords of the Realm II
This nigga right here gets it

When crypto goes to zero we will all be playing Postal 2 but IRL

>>8400278
puzzle pirates

>>8400797

factorio belongs in a managerial accounting course
or supply chain management

its a great fucking game for anyone who likes tweaking production flows and solving bottlenecks and shit

really loved it

>>8404948
>>8404873
>>8404791
These games literally spoonfeed you. Paradox is the master of making games that feed into players egos and desire for control. Actual control/choice is an illusion.

>>8405394
Yeah ok anon. Go back to HOI3 and pretend that the million screens and janky impenetrable interfaces made it a 'better' game

GTA 5. Hearthstone before that. Gaming is boring when you can trade crypto and read about all of this stuff instead. I can't code or anything, but if this is the future of something amazing, I want to be all up in it. Gaming isn't really that exciting anymore. Maybe when VR gets really good. I do have a psp with emulators.

>>8405476
>Gaming is boring when you can trade crypto and read about all of this stuff instead. I can't code or anything, but if this is the future of something amazing, I want to be all up in it. Gaming isn't really that exciting anymore. Maybe when VR gets really good.

I think the same.

>>8405421
i have to agree
never liked hearts of iron, shit was just such a mess

meanwhile I enjoyed EU3/4 and CK2 very much.
wouldnt quite call them /biz/ games though

>>8400278
hackforums marketplace

Back to Recettear. Where you play a loli losing everything and have to run a store selling trash to other lolis.

>>8400861
The Guild 1 is far better in my opinion. But i didn't like micromanaging a family like you do in 2. There's also a lot more professions and stuff to do in 1. Not to mention asshole competitor dynasties.

>>8405517
They sell alts which are green for btc which is red. Then btc rises due to volume moving into btc. Alts tank and people buy more back. It's a matter of timing the top and bottom of candles on a chart. Easiest way to make money is to buy the red and sell the green.

There's also http://www.junctiongate.com/
A free incrimental idler management browser game with a fun stock market. Maybe you never made it in crypto, but you can with the space stock market.

Here is my Surviving Mars base.
My first time playing.

>>8405525

Fucking this

Yayifications! Capitalism Ho!

>>8404346

>Didn't post this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIAPSXpkKmE

wtf are you doing?

Anyone ever beat this?

>>8405673
Also never beat this. I’m not sure if it’s supposed to simulate “you can’t win” or “it’s all luck.”

>>8405673
that game was made by an italian commie and the point was to prove how evil and unsustainable the business model of mcdonalds is

>>8400858
came here to post this

>>8405690
that reminds me of "life simulator" where you get to be a 3rd worlder and die of aids at 12
google it up its retarded

>>8405781
>unsustainable the business model of mcdonalds is

In case you haven't noticed they won and are everywhere, so I would say their business model is one of the best ever written.

>>8401987
and fucking this

>TFW when you achieve monopoly on tropical wood AND rubber

>>8405805
no shit, read the part were the game was made by a commie

>>8405690
>>8405790
ok actual name is reallives

>>8405826
wtf in what expansions were dogs added? havnt played in over a year

No one said Age of Empires 2.

>>8400278
I liked empire total war
The economics is shit but the ship battles were sweet
Now i like playing oxygen not included
Dont starve is also cool

>>8400278
>it's been 18 years
>still no game as good as this

>>8405945
Patrician choice, my friend

>>8405953
>2003 was 53 years ago

>>8402835
Yeah right
Pls kek gimme three years to accumulate

>>8405781
>>8405805

You can win if you keep balancing the bribes, marketing and the pasture, but it's a shitty grind.

Finally found a woking version of real lives form tpb
this is now a real lives thread

every fucking time

>>8400278
BIDEOOOO GEIMUUUS

kek that didnt take long

ok this is actually sad, so a paki with goiter, stunted growth and epilepsy, with 2 years of schooling and whose father died of aids at 3 years old does better than us.. wtf guys this game is actually depressing and it is suposed to makes us feel great from living in the ''developed world''

Victoria 2, the economy, resources and industrialization are a big aspect of the game.

>>8406403
>not connected to the Indian ocean

typical Sweden

>>8406429
Well the plan is to take Ottoman African land, but not before getting the Belgian Congo as a puppet. Also I started as Denmark, not Sweden and Danish is the dominant culture of the Scandinavian Union.

>>8405805
Age of empires 2.

Combines economy management, empire building, and violence, all wrapped up in a nice medieval, nostalgic package.

Games suffered the same destiny of movies

There are no original concepts for videogames coming out anymore, everything is either a rehash or a remake which half ass everything related to gameplay and feels obliged to slap SJW propaganda everywhere, the only thing that has improved are graphics everything else has gone downhill bigtime

Bannerlord might be the only game to look forward to when it gets released on the year 2132

>>8406615
It's hard to consider any RTS as a deep economy or business game as it always boils down to "spend resources to increase resource production"

If life were as simple as "use lemonade stand profits to open a 2nd lemonade stand" we'd all be filthy rich

>>8406615

That game was the shit, but would Nemesis of the Roman Empire be a little closer to /biz/?

>>8402253
Patrician taste.

>>8406724
agree with this, it's difficult for SP games to implement the snags that real-life entrepreneurship throws at you. i've always been more fond of multiplayer games that have an auctionhouse like wow but now that i've graduated, i don't really have the time.

Anyone who played Ultima online pre ren knows what's up. The amount of grinding, schemes, high stakes.... it was great

>>8407568
Dude... Ultima Online was one of the best MMO economies.

Story time:

>be noob.
>no skills, no patience to grind.
>scrounge for weeks to build tiny little highrise on minimum size housing plot
>look through other houses & see mansions w/ assholes displaying keys to all their shit
>realize you can cast teleport on keys to go there
>teleport onto some rich fuck & realize they left hold unlocked w/ 50,000 fish steaks on board

>proceed to break into every single boat in the entire game via key teleporting, & steal literally millions of fish steaks

>>8407656
teleport onto some rich fuck's boat*

>>8407656
Fuck buddy that's amazing. I haven't found anything that made me feel like that game did since.

I remember a dude ghosted into my house one time and then at least 7of his buddies teleported in and proceed to take everything I had worked for. Devasting.

It was also the kind of game where if you had a great strategy and like 3 skills you could take out fully stacked players. Made your balls ache farming in dungeons with a full set of shit on you.

Only for the 1000iq Machiavellian /biz/raeli.

>>8407924
what gaem

>>8408018
Its called throne of lies. You play as a medieval court and have to accuse/execute your adversaries through deduction.

>>8400318
It's good. It's better than that shitshow EA put out. The base Cities game is meh, but if you get the right mods, it's excellent. You can drill down as deep as you want.

I just got Surviving Mars, it's Sim City on Mars, I like it a lot.

Factorio is kind cool.

Sim Airport and Airport Simulator are cool, but overpriced.

I like Planet Coaster, too. It's equal to Roller Coaster Tycoon, in some ways. I got it free, I wouldn't pay full price for it.

>>8400858
Is that anything like Caesar III? That was some top tier gaming, it was Age of Empires and Simcity combined.

>>8400278
tracing the evolution of simcity from the amazing game it once was to the facebook iphone game it has become really says something about corporate greed.

>>8400891
I played the shit out of Caesar III. Awesome fucking game, it led me to the Civs.

I have Civ 6, and like it, not sure if I want the expansion. Not as epic as Civ 5 tho, if you want a civ game, 5 is the shit. I played that too much, which is why I moved on to 6.

>>8405184
>ass-length

>>8400549

former leaguer, hate that game, its the sjw version of dota2. Dota 2 is a beautiful game but i dont have time too play it anymore

>>8400986
I was into Skyblock, pretty hardcore, until they gimped all the servers, and disallow redblock and spawning mobs and animals and villagers. Now it's just autistic kids pretending to drink, and creepy 50 year olds pestering 13 year olds to be their girlfriend and wrecking the game economy. Never been able to find a decent server for a pure Skyblock, gave up. I don't even know what's in Minecraft anymore, it's been so long.

>>8402118
Me. Loving it so far.

>>8402165
I won't go EVE. I know what will happen, I'll jump in like I did with WoW, and the next thing you know a decade goes by. I try to stick to games I can play for a little, and walk away. The EVE rabbit hole is too fucking deep.

>>8405165
This. For such a cartoony looking game. It went hardcore for anyone who wanted to run a profitable crafting business.
I learned about the burdens of inventory from this game. A million gold pieces tied up to run a shop with enough consumer options that people would buy regularly.
It was easier to just play poker.

>>8406719
I don't care if it's an old concept - if the execution is done well, it's worth it.

>>8406293
Yes one of the best especially manipulating the stock markets to fuck your competitor's.

>>8400278
18xx boardgames. / heavy economic games like Indonesia, Container, Brass

This game was great you could help cities grow organically and learn how logistics work. Same with Railroad Tycoon 3 although you only focused on railroads. RT3 takes the cake for intergrating stock markets and allowing you to short or long depending on the basic indicators.

I play a ton of League of Legends

>>8406218
>Pakistan
>die of aids
>.01 % prevalence rate
That is pretty fucking unlucky

I'm just happy I will enjoy a time line where I will (hopefully) make it and be able to shitpost about Rollercoaster tycoon, civ series and such with fellow millionaires.

theme hospital

cure pink wojaks 1 at a time

>>8401981
I just hate how the Census/Demographics hit you in 20 years. You'll have 200 unemployment if you don't beat the level in 10 years

IS Payday 2 /biz/ core?

>>8405184
greatest text game ever made

unironically

>>8407672
best game EVER

>>8409648
best game EVER

>>8406719
Fucking retard

>>8400278
SC4 with NAM and full plugin folder is about the only game I keep coming back to.
Skylines has no soul

>>8400607
check out the Network Addon Mod. fixes all those issues and adds a fucking ton of new shit

>>8406719
this.

>>8400849
O my god this x1000!!!
I spent my childhood infront of pizza tycoon

>>8406403
debug yesmen

CSGO shooting russians and stupid teenagers in the head

>>8400895
>the economies in these games are 100% communist
Explain?

>>8412296
>100% centrally planned economy
>everything is provided by the state
>population doesnt pay for any of it
>tax the upper class more than they earn (where do they get their money from??)
>worker class owns nothing, only rent

>>8400278
A-Train 9 from Artdink. It's a complete city-builder that revolves around a railways management sim, and heavily focuses on financial aspects (investments, industry, growth, bank loans...).

>tfw no mmo thats just like minecraft except extremely realistic and if you die you are banned for 30 days and are dropped somewhere else in the world, causing players to build cohesive nations

anyone else play civcraft during its prime here?

>>8402165
THIS, the game is pretty much what you should hook you kids on if you want them to go to finance or economics.

>>8402209
A big part of my childhood
Played mostly in Berlin, maxing out Charlottenberg

>>8403682
>Peasants to fill moats
>Battering ram to open hole in walls
>Knights to rush the flag
>2ez4bz

>>8413887
>>8413895
>>8413911
>>8413951

>>8400428
this. It's not a city building sim, it's a city building tool

>>8413711
That sounds like such a horrible game idea jesus christ

>>8400278
Dwarf fortress