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8333452 No.8333452 [Reply] [Original]

Alright biz im gonna let you in on a little something.

If pic is you get out of crypto. NEETS don't deserve a place in this world, let alone at the top like you will be if you know your buttcoin shit.

Get out. Final warning.

>> No.8333472

>>8333452
None of those apply to me except playing games

>> No.8333490

>>8333452
>tfw getting too old to fit into these

>> No.8333497
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8333497

1 Y
2 N
3 Y
4 N
5 N
6 N (Pragmatism =/ Racism. Fuck Tumblr.)
7 Y

>> No.8333499

pic would apply to most people 15-25.

>> No.8333516

>>8333452
Almost got it. Except for
>underachiever
>non-religious
But nice try.

>> No.8333530

>>8333499
OP is a faggot, but you are an absolute retard.

>> No.8333543
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8333543

>>8333497
>non-religious in the year 2018
you're not allowed on here for another 5 years, kid

>> No.8333550

>>8333452
>Y
>N
>Y
>N
>N
>Y

>> No.8333588

>>8333490
This. I've seen this pic being posted since I was 21, I'm 30 now.
>youre_here_forever.png

>> No.8333639

I want to get crypto rich as a "fuck you" gesture to society. I want to spite everyone.

>> No.8333661
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8333661

>tfw I'm all of these

>> No.8333673

>>8333588
confirmed. even if you leave you always end up back.

>> No.8333832

all the dunning-kruger faggots here will lap up the above average intelligence part of this.

>> No.8333836

>>8333452
Nailed everything except non-religious.

>> No.8333863

>>8333661
I want a stone-faced Chad best friend to drink beers with and go to the gym

all my friends are fucking nerds

>> No.8333924

All correct, apart from age. I'm 40 this year.

>> No.8333975

>>8333452
Literally all of them except underachiever, rather the opposite.

Also haven't played games for some years now desu

>> No.8334034

How the fuck are these all correct for me? Can someone tell me what it means lol? The only difference is I was upper class compared to my town

>> No.8334097

>>8333452
Yes to all except inelegance. Im about to go to medical school.

>> No.8334103

>>8333452
Also those aren’t NEETS you fucking new idiot.

Please lurk moar.

>> No.8334127

>>8333452

Y
N
Y
N
Y
N
Y

>> No.8334305

>>8333863
Be the Chad you want to see in the world.

>> No.8334326

>>8333543
If you have a code of ethics, personal responsibility and goals, then religion has absolutely no fucking use.

You're just jumping on the "traditional Christian businessman" train because you think appealing to the boomers will cover for your ineptitude.

>> No.8334405

>>8333452
All of this is true expect for the atheist bit. I'm actually agnostic leaning towards christianity, but the real question is: HOW COULD YOU BE SO RIGHT ABOUT ME?!

>> No.8334456

>>8333452
All of this applies to me except I don't like video games. Also not a neet.

>> No.8334480

>>8333543
>muh higher being protecting me
That's literally nigger-tier intelligence levels.

>> No.8334517

>>8334305
Kek

>> No.8334610

>>8334480
>Be Atheist
>Claim to be a non-believer and free minded
>Literally believing in every ideology and liberal agenda under the sun
>Still claims to be a non-believer
Atheism is a meme. What people do at a micro level is one thing, but no long lasting functioning society can ever survive without religious belief at the macro level. Atheism eats itself from the inside.

Atheistic morality is just subjectivism.

>> No.8334688

>>8334610
How can anyone be religious when there's just about 1000 different religions and your own religion only depends on the part of the world you are born in. If you are a christian you are only christian because you were born in US/Europe. If you were born in Asia, you would probably be a buddhist or something. If you were born in Middle East, you would be muslim, if you were born in Africa you would believe in some ooga booga wood spirits. Religion is for brainlets.

>> No.8334703

>>8333452
1. Gender is a state of mind
2. Fuck it I'll be oit of this list next month
3. In a third world middle class is a bit different but yeah
4. Well 140iq here tested by online facebook tests i took a quick one while playing candy crush
5. Nah i hate all lifeforms including myself
6.No i dont believe in sky daddy wish he was real tho to call him a retarded faggot and to tell him to suck a bunch of dicks

>> No.8334734

>>8334610
also atheist have beliefs but those beliefes are based on proven facts, religions have nothing but a fucking book and bunch of other brainlets so that you can feel like it's real because so many people surely cannot be wrong, right?

>> No.8334815

>>8334688
I could answer your question, but the EXACT argument could be said about atheistic morality.

You can't have objective morality with atheism. You just proved that yourself in your own comment. How can you say it's wrong to burn children alive when there have been cultures that have done this? Isn't morality dependent on where you are born too? You have to say yes to this, otherwise your initial argument is flawed.

>> No.8334836

Holy shit there are actually people my age that still buy into the western fairytale about desert people?

>> No.8334862

This thread proves im not a pale incel loser. I am only the first three thank God.

>> No.8334865

>>8334610
Agnostic athiest libertarian here.
Wrong, try again.

>> No.8334879

>>8334734
Give me a couple of examples of these atheistic beliefs that are proven facts? I want to hear this.

>> No.8334901

>>8334815
Moral objectivity doesnt exist.

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>>8333452
>tfw all yes except 30 and over achiever

>> No.8334951

>>8333832
Lmao why you so pissed?

>> No.8334974

>>8333452
haha i am actually 26 smd faggot

>> No.8334978

>>8334865
Libertarianism has no inherent moral incentives built into it's ideology.

Prove me wrong. Protip: you can't.

>> No.8334994

>>8334815
Yes, morality is a human-made concept. If there's a culture where burning children alive is a normal thing, then that is moral within their culture, but generally society always evolves over time not to kill or torture people for no reason as there's no benefit to it from evolution's objective which is to keep the species alive under any circumstance. I have morals that I got from society around me, just like you and everyone else. Muslims that live in Europe or US have normal morality like rest of us but those muslims born in ISIS with the same religion find it okay to kill people.
Religion doesn't create morality, society does.

>> No.8334999

>>8333452
I am an old female lesbian who is a CEO making $2kk/day, deeply religious and anti-racist.

Your argument is invalid.

>> No.8335006

>>8334901
Then there is no right and wrong, or truth even for that matter.

>> No.8335010

>>8334978
Nothing wrong with that. Morality is individual.

>> No.8335034

>>8335006
Theres not sorry to hurt your feelings

>> No.8335037

>>8335006
There is truth. Right and wrong are more of preferences

>> No.8335053

>>8333452
What is stopping me just labeling myself as gay and keeping on gambling?

>> No.8335071

>>8334999
Also with an IQ of 83.

>> No.8335075

>>8335037
Theres not faggot theres not truth you human beings are entilted cunts that believe everything spins around you

>> No.8335115

>>8334879
i have a deep spiritual connection to the fact that subscribing to a religion is like subscribing to anything else and until I'm presented with any fucking discernible molecule of EVIDENCE WHY or REASON FOR then you all are doing no more than wasting precious human time to me

>> No.8335121

>>8334688
Most parts Africa and South America are Christian

>> No.8335139

>>8334610
if you think non-believer strictly = atheism you'll never make it sorry man

there are actually ppl who literally just don't give a fuck about religion and live decent, have a deep spiritual life/connection to the world and religions just don't equate - atheism is just another belief system to get trapped in

>> No.8335144

>>8335121
That only proves they are brainlet niggers

>> No.8335157

>>8333452
Ha I'm gay

>> No.8335203

Male

28, about to be 29 in a few months.

Straight enough. Putting things in my ass is pretty fun, but it's hard to get off and I wouldn't put a dick in it.

Grew up super poor for America, still played games. Mostly played outside to save on electricity.

People say I'm above average intelligence, but I space out all day and I'm pretty gullible, so I feel sort of dumb.

Everyone's at least vaguely racist. I'm mixed with everything except Asian though, and the dad that helped raise me was black while my mother's mostly white-Hispanic. Not sure what my real father was. I'm less racist than most people, probably.

I'm religious, but I don't attend church.

>> No.8335206

Y , Y , Y , Y , Y , Y , Y
goodbye

>> No.8335214

>>8334994
The definition of moral is "what is good". You can't say that burning children is moral (good) because that is what's considered moral in some societies.

There is also no benefit to our evolution to feed and house mentally retarded people, or handicapped people or third world people. In fact, the best thing for our species would be to eliminate all people with an iq of less than 70. You cannot argue against this. Because your atheistic morality doesn't bother with objective reality, rather subjectivism.

This is not to say that atheistic people cannot be good, of course they can. They have just managed to choose good values in favor of bad once. They just don't know this because in their own words "morality is not objective and therefor good and bad is relative"

Cultures are not equal. There are good cultures and then there are savage cultures.

>> No.8335232

>>8333452
This applied like 10 years ago

Now I don't think I'm straight

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8335270

>>8333452
Y
N
Y
N
N
N
N

>> No.8335272

>>8334610
>liberal

nope, atheist and libertarian

conservativism is nigger tier "things can't change" lack of neuroplasticity

>> No.8335351

>>8335214
No need to feed and house mentally retarded or handicapped people. In a natural environment they would die naturally due to natural selection as predators would kill them/they couldn't feed themselves, or they would straight up die during birth.
There's no "good or bad". ISIS children believe killing non-muslims is good because people around them say that to them and they go on to happily murder people thinking they're doing the right thing, despite having the same religion as regular muslims across the world. You can't disprove that.
People only choose good over bad because if you're "bad" you will be outcasted from the society and humans have evolved to rely on society, so that's basically a death sentence so of course we will do and follow whatever the majority believes.

>> No.8335387 [DELETED] 

>>8333452
sage

>> No.8335400

>>8335272
Libertarian is socially LIBERAL.

Nice try shlomo

>> No.8335432

>>8335144
No cell phones allowed in the classroom, boy. I'm gonna be giving your parents a call this afternoon if you don't shape up

>> No.8335448

>>8334326
shhhjust pray
breathe

>> No.8335603

>>8335139
You seem to be implying that this vague sprititual connection to “the world” is the default or something. If you think athiesm is another entrapping belied system then your worldly spirituality is too.

>> No.8335661

>>8333452
True except the racist part.

>> No.8335676
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8335676

>>8333452
>I'm smart but lazy

>> No.8335677

>>8335661
Oh wait and the middle class bit.

>> No.8335736

>>8335351
Just because you believe something is good doesn't mean it's good. That is my whole point. ISIS is wrong, doesn't matter if they think they are good, they are wrong. You think Stalin thought he was evil? No, he was a good man in his own eyes. Subjective morality is very dangerous and this has been prove many times in our history.

If you think you are right and have a lot of money and power, what stops you from imposing your subjective values unto other people in the name of morality? NOTHING, nothing stops you. Look at Mao, Stalin and Kim.

Science is also not inherently moral in any regard. This is something atheistic people are generally confused about. They generalize all science=good and progressive. But tell me, what was the first thing that happened when scientist made the biggest scientific discovery of the 20th century? The figured out how to split the atom, right? What happened then? You see what I mean? Science doesn't guaranty good, or even evil for that matter. That's what makes it science. The whole idea of science to begin with was to create a system that is AS unbiased and unregulated by human emotion as possible, and they succeeded. Therefore, you cannot say that science is a path towards moral enlightenment.

Atheist take our society for granted, they take everything we have today for granted.

>> No.8335758

>>8335661
I can't even imagine how much of a faggot you must be. How the fuck, when IQ has a heritability coefficient of .8, do you think that an entire continent with 65 IQ "people" are equal to the rest of the world? That takes some serious delusion/

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8335809

>>8333452
>age 15-25
>grew up middle class

These are not true for me but I wish they were desu desu

>> No.8335811

>>8333472
An Elderly religious lesbian female! Wow!!

>> No.8335831

>>8335214

Why does it seem like you're arguing that all religion is good because it's the only way people would know right from wrong.

What about all the Christian priests who build an entire life around molesting underage boys? Surely they are good men, in a civilized culture in a good religion, but they willingly do objectively immoral things.

People don't need religion to tell them what to do because most don't even listen!

How many religious men are, rapists, murderers, pedophiles? A lot.

How many atheistic men are, rapists, murderers, pedophiles? A lot

It makes no difference whether or not they were told NOT to do those things because they're just shitty people.

>> No.8336035

>>8335831
I'm not arguing that all religion is good, I never said that. There are obviously superior religions, as there are superior cultures.

My point is, you can do whatever you want and say you are atheist. I'm just saying that at the macro level we need religion in order to function and not spiral in to man made ideologies like marxism, feminism, libertarianism etc.

I never said religious people are inherently moral. Priest who rape will go to hell and they are NOT moral. You can say you follow a certain religion, but you still have to act it out. Priest who rape do not act it out. They are evil.

>> No.8336108

>>8335831
The point is not to be super religious and read the bible everyday. The point is to ACT as if there is a god, you speak thru your actions. You do good thru your actions.

>> No.8336361

>>8335400
>socially liberal
>supporting guns
>supporting free speech
>fighting the SJWs

I am not socially liberal, you cuck

>> No.8336526

This was me UNTIL I was 25. Now I'm 28 and I'm mostly the same guy, except
- kicked video game habit, now play rarely if ever (mixed feelings on this)
- more "racist" (simply learned more about race and IQ)
- 100k in crypto and quickly tanking
- no work history

Extremely nervous honestly

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8336655

>>8333452
>yes
>no
>yes
>yes
>no (ph.d in biomedical engineering nigger)
>yes
>yes
i'm also more /fit/ than you. absolutely guaranteed

also, racism isn't a bad word faggot. niggers are a bane on humanity

>> No.8336718

>>8336361
>I'm okey with people doing ANYTHING they want as long as they don't fuck with me personally
>Not socially liberal
>Not a degenerate scum

Okey Mr. Potato Head.

>> No.8336750

>>8336526
>Catalog
You are 5 years ahead of me, give me some advice please.

>> No.8336758

I belive in God, 30 years old and holding 1m $

>> No.8336815

>>8336750
>give me some advice please.
start lifting, running, and hiking with a heavy pack. invest in guns and ammo and practice shooting. accumulate cryptocurrency, monero preferred. stock up on long-lasting food and water filters/tablets that work on bacteria and viruses. i'm absolutely serious.

>> No.8336942

>>8336655
You're what I strive to be when I overcome my video game addiction and stop being NEET... one day

>> No.8336955

>>8336750
I'm basically nowhere in life so idk what advice I can give you. Right now I'm in the process of trying to make adult friends who are interested in friendship but not too far ahead of me and consider me pathetic. I've had zero success in that regard.

I'd say just go to the gym a minimum of 2-3 days a week, don't neglect cardio (run), idk beyond that... good luck bro

>> No.8336964

>>8336955
>>8336750
Oh, if you're 23, it's not too late for you. Go get a degree or start work or whatever, don't let yourself have a huge employment gap like me. I feel like I dug a hole for myself that I can't get out of.

>> No.8336972

>>8333452
I am an early 20s male
straight
grew up lower middle class, only played a couple video games in middle school
above average intelligence, but over achiever
I'm racist in the eyes of some idpol neo liberal, but I am not actually racist, ie I dont think "undesirables" should be fucking eliminated/have no place in society
I am mostly non-religious but not totally certain in my beliefs like many atheists
OP's image BTFO hahaha

>> No.8336987

>>8336942
>when I overcome my video game addiction and stop being NEET
the army broke me of that and gave me enough discipline to get myself out of bed and go work on shit i don't want to work on (to get my phd)

>> No.8336990

>>8333452
You almost had it
>>8333543
Hi pascal

>> No.8337018

>>8333452
>None of those apply to me except playing games
>>>8335811 #
N/A

>> No.8337031

>>8333452
>muslim
>non-racist
25, straight. the family became a middle class but was poor. Played video games in the childhood.
>underachiever
yes, but now I'm on the meds for my bipolar and started to achieve.

>> No.8337079

>>8336108
Why does there need to be a god for you to act right? Morals are just values created by humanity, the same people who penned religious texts. Most people can agree that murder, for example, is wrong for logical reasons. Rarely do I hear someone suggest it’s wrong simply because: god. And we haven’t even considered religions that deem some murder to be righteous. Kill the infidels, torture the heathens.

>> No.8337082

>>8336964
I'm already in school and will get my bachelor in 1 year. Still not sure if I should pursuit a masters, really depends on my situation and if I make it by then or not.

>> No.8337108

>>8336987
I'm in Canada and our nation has become a disgrace. There was a time when I would have considered serving, but not now with our pro tranny/refugee fagminister. Any other initiations that could give a similar sense of responsibility and agency that helped you crack out of it? congrats on making it man.

Also is 24 too oldfag to consider going back to university?

>> No.8337113

I'm 30. Grew up poor as shit (but dad was a burglar so he got me loads of games and consoles)
Does that mean i'll make it?

>> No.8337118

Jokes on you OP I grew up poor.

>> No.8337120

>>8337079
You can't give me one single reason to why murder is wrong. You simply cannot. You will always end up on the notion of objective morality.

>> No.8337133

Lol at religious kids in here trying to argue that religion = morality.

Howd the dark ages work out for ya?

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>>8333452
>above average intelligence
I love how everyone here assumes their geniuses. You're not a genius if you browse this site.

>> No.8337182

>>8336718
>People who I don't know are doing things I don't like REEEEEE

>> No.8337183
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8337183

1 Y/N
2 Y
3 Y
4 Y
5 Y
6 N
7 Y

Your soul matter

>> No.8337236

>>8337120
That’s the point. Morals are values created by humanity. Right and wrong don’t really exist. Whether your value system is based in religion or something else is irrelevant. Religion is not necessary to maintain the social contract.
Murder is wrong because it is a violation of someone else to the highest degree. You wouldn’t want it to happen to you, no one would, so we prohibit it. This is how most people understand it. Or they’ll refer to actual punishments that occur in your life (prison) rather than some distant punishment that may or may not happen when you die.

>> No.8337237

>>8337120
yea if youre an actual moral relativist "murder isnt actually bad" type, youre an edgy faggot

>> No.8337259

>>8337133
It's not that religion = morality, it's that morality is by definition subjective if god does not exist. Every reason you can tell me something is right/wrong is limited to your flawed (If we can all agree humanity is flawed) opinion.

>> No.8337269

>>8337161
people on this site are generally wayyyyy dumber than they think they are, but they're still smarter than the general population

>> No.8337296
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8337296

>>8337269
>they're still smarter than the general population
They're really not.

>> No.8337299

>>8337237
Looks like most, if not all people ITT are edgy moral relativist types.

>> No.8337327

>>8337296
I laughed so loud to that picture!

>> No.8337344

>>8337236
In that regard fear of the law is not very different than fear of hell that religious people have. The social contract is only as binding as the consequences of breaking in for the black sheep/outcasts. Most people will agree on rational principles but there will always be those that think rape/murder/pedophilia are rational to their subjective worldview.

>> No.8337372

>>8337327
aha yes sir plis give more funny picture my son he is not laugh ever since i lose my money in bitconnect plis sirs give me funny picture

>> No.8337468

>>8337344
Well sure. But that also exists in religious value systems in which actions we consider to be wrong are made ok for whatever reasons (infidels etc). Religious morals are no different from secular morals. They have the same origin and purpose.

>> No.8337488

Yes to all questions.

Sitting on my 70k LINK stack, laughing as I trim Marijuana for a day job.

>> No.8337501

>>8334978
libertarian morality is:
do what you want, without hurting others

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8337561

>>8337344
There are nothing rational without god, just engenders wandering around like the ADA developer

>> No.8337642

>>8337501
Those are not morals.

What you WANT doesn't = good. This is what libertarians always get wrong. They believe want = good. Again, just another example of pure subjectivism.

>> No.8337790

>>8336035
>we need religion in order to function
what we need is a foundational meme

religion served as the foundational meme of our society for a long time, then people decided that the meme was too stale and unscientific.

which is fine, but they fucked up when they didn't recreate another foundational meme for the society, leaving a gaping hole for jews to fuck incessantly.

I ONLY support delegitimizing religion if you have another supportable foundational meme to replace it with.

failing that I'm fine with religion.

It would be a really fun project to recreate a foundational meme in today's world though. I'd be really interested to see what people come up with.

>> No.8337852

>>8337561
Sauce?

That’s a bad bitch. I’m into dykes desu

>> No.8337925

>>8333452
I'm not racist and the underachiever thing is too subjective I think

>> No.8337932

>>8337852
twitter:
@psygnisfive
@ternaryaug

>> No.8338026

>middle class
I fucking wish

>> No.8338043

>>8334610
>waaaah
>why don't you believe in my desert sky man and his dead son on a stick?

Fuck right off kike lover.

>> No.8338109

>>8333452
Y
Y
N
Y (low middle, but I didn't have friends)
N
Y (no according to Tumblr, since I'm a Spic)
N

>> No.8338147

>>8333863
Just remember if you ever get a gf unless that chad is gay he will fuck your gf

>> No.8338163

>>8338043
>Fell for the atheist meme
>Fell for either Marxism, Feminism or Libertarianism
>I'm somehow the kike lover and not you.

LOL.

>> No.8338184

>>8337259
>it's that morality is by definition subjective if god does not exist

So, your argument is that God must exist so that morality is objective? That's logically bunk, friendo.

>> No.8338418

>>8338147
Chads are bros who respect boundaries and expect you to respect theirs. Only a beta-chad is desperate enough to toss out friendship for pussy.

>> No.8339365

Tfw males don't deserve crypto gains. Guys I have a penis am I gonna make it?

>> No.8339493

>>8336526
Your IQ is so high, yet you dont have any work history.

>> No.8339710

>>8337296
Majority of retards that voted Trump have less education than those who didnt. Fact.

>> No.8340433

>>8337082
only pursue a master's if you need it.
don't get a degree for the sake of it, do not take shots in the dark

make very calculated decisions
know why you need it before you get it

>> No.8340445

>>8339493
>triggered leftist/nigger
>hurr you're only smart if you've worked
second bit is patently false / a fallacy
moreover I never said I was smart
fuck off idiot

>> No.8340585

>>8333497
this

>> No.8340728
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8340728

>male
Yes
>Age 15-25
24
>Straight
I try to tell myself I am but everyone says I'm an egg
>middle class playing tons of video games
Yes
>Above-average intelligence but an underachiever
I have a BS and a steady salary but I've always felt like I could push myself harder
>Racist to some degree
Yeah sorta
>Non-religious
easter is on april fools this year, perfect day for it since religion is a joke

Am I going to make it, anons?

>> No.8340863

>>8333452
>mtf tranny
>26
>true
>true and was true until recently. Now i have a decent job coding
>I don't see niggers as human
>I am catholic pre vatican 2 style

>> No.8340957

>>8340728
oh and my degree is in financial math & statistics if that matters

my favourite course in uni was time series, in which we did literal TAfagging for the duration of the semester

>> No.8341041

>>8333452
>yes
>no
>no
>yes
>yes
>no

Try again

>> No.8341209

>>8338418
>>8338147
true
Otherfag, wrong
Chads only care about getting laid
They get hot girls sure.... but they will settle for less to get a nut off and not catch any feelings for the bitch
Happened to me in rehab recently, girl i liked got chad'd
We weren't going out... but we had a thing if you will. I've learned from that experience.... girls are shit . Pump and dump you chump. Catch feelings and get slumped

>> No.8341276

>>8333452
>non-religious
Heathen. Jesus is the bread

>> No.8341298

>>8333452
Jokes on you I'm 28 :^)