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Mid teens edition

Popular brokers for stock trading:
Robinhood
>commission free and no minimum to open
http://www.robinhood.com

> How is it free?
Robinhood earns revenue by collecting interest on cash/securities and fees from their Robinhood Gold service

> It's been X days, why isn't my account verified yet?
Not being approved in 3 days seems to be the new norm. Nevertheless, call/email their support if you've been waiting more than that.

> When is it coming to my country?
The only "plans" are on an Australian and Chinese beta. Neither of which has gained much traction.

Interactive Brokers
>$1 commission per 100 shares. $10k minimum to open, $3k if 25 or under. Lowest margin interest. Free API access
http://www.interactivebrokers.com

TD Ameritade
>$6.95 commission per trade. No minimum to open. Fantastic data/charting through their free ThinkorSwim service
http://www.tdameritrade.com

Degiro (Cheap broker for Europeans)
http://www.degiro.eu

Free in depth charts:
http://www.tradingview.com

Premarket Movers:
http://www.nasdaq.com/extended-trading/premarket-mostactive.aspx

Earnings Report Calendar:
https://biz.yahoo.com/research/earncal/today.html

Biopharma Catalyst Calendar:
https://biopharmcatalyst.com/

Pump and Dump Advertising:
https://stocktwits.com

S&P 500 VIX Futures (For SVXY/UVXY, higher is better for UVXY, lower is better for SVXY)
https://www.investing.com/indices/us-spx-vix-futures

>> No.8313892

FAIL

>> No.8313902

>you will never make it
>you will always be a wagecuck and live a life of misery and shitsqualor
I'm losing hope tbfam.

>> No.8313905

>>8313861
I'M SORRY FOR FAILING YOU ALL

>> No.8313920

I'M FUCKING DOWN 0.3 TODAY. DAMMIT I WANT GAINS.

>> No.8313936

This thread has /smg/ in the subject so Im longing it, shorting the other thread.

>> No.8313946
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>>8313905
You haven't failed us, manager Comfortable.

>> No.8313949

>>8313936
agreed


>>8313861
MID TEENS!!!!

>> No.8313951

which is the real thread

>> No.8313957

Speaking of which, how's the hedge fund doing?

>> No.8313977
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8313977

Reminder from last thread, this dip isnt over, yet.

>> No.8313986

>>8313902

gotta reframe your mindset into one that is grateful for the good things, and enjoys the moments. it's the only way otherwise you'll just view all your moments as you already do

>> No.8314028

>>8313977
Power hour will bring everything to all time high, just watch

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8314112

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.8314122

KEEP DROPPING

NEED THEM SWEET TVIX GAINS

>> No.8314129

>>8313905
remove your trip as punishment

>> No.8314132

Rip market.
I'm glad it's over.

>> No.8314137

Thinking of picking up some S (Sprint). I've been a cell junkie for a while and have had their service for nearly a decade.

Went from decent to shit tier to much improved. Not enough low spectrum bandwidth for in-building penetration using standard macro cell buildouts.

I could go on, but they are in a good place with 5G given their large amount of 2.1 to 2.6 GHz holdings and have been righting their ship financially for some time.

Just ran into this SA article which reinforced my thinking if investing.

https://seekingalpha.com/amp/article/4155931-sprint-turnaround-year

>> No.8314142

which member of Trump's cabinet havent been replaced yet? I need to figure out how long I need to short for.

>> No.8314156

>>8314132

yeah just let it be the big one already ffs

>> No.8314170

Did the GE bagholder off himself yet?

>> No.8314190

bearfags go back to your commie honeypot infinitychan

>> No.8314200

>>8314190
>actually wanting to overpay for your stocks

>> No.8314206

>>8314137
Yeah, a true 5g company.

>> No.8314222
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>>8314170
not yet

>> No.8314225
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>>8314200

>> No.8314235
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>>8314200
It is the absolute state of the bull

>> No.8314258

Buy the dip in CLDR. It's been having nothing but gains over the last two weeks.

Thank me later.

>> No.8314350

>>8314235
you can talk a big game and spam your shitty memes but everybody knows you're all talk with like a $1k robinhood account

you probably made less than $100 today

>> No.8314398

nasdaq hasnt even dipped to previous all time high, still in a rocket ship bull market would need to be under 6,000 for a while for anybody to think about bear market

>> No.8314415

>>8314350
this. bears have been getting fucked for months.

>> No.8314419
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>>8314398
>Tech is leaving humanity behind

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8314422

Just risk-off my shit up sempai.

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8314445

Buy gold and silver, lads. It'll be a great hedge for what's about to happen.

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8314458

what happened with ford?

>> No.8314468
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8314468

For all the shit talk that goes on in here why isn't there a /biz/ paper trading league for people to actually back up their claims?

>> No.8314489

>>8314458
i want my mommy

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>>8314445
Yeah no, gold and silver could drop at the dime of a hat, they arent attractive investments anymore and kept low

>> No.8314505
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8314505

>>8314468
>Paper trading

>> No.8314511

>Investors buy calls when they think the share price of the underlying security will rise or sell a call if they think it will fall

So if you can long and short with calls, what is the point of puts? Absolute brainlet here

>> No.8314523

>>8314445
Here is a story about a Goldman Sachs research note finding that "no safe havens -- and no assets or equity sectors -- have had a positive beta to the VIX recently." That is, when the CBOE Volatility Index goes up -- because the U.S. stock market becomes more volatile -- no asset class goes up with it; stocks and bonds and gold and oil all fall as stock-market volatility rises. (Bitcoin too, though Goldman doesn't say that.)

You could imagine a story in which the development of volatility products caused this breakdown in correlation: Back in the olden days, when you needed to buy gold to hedge against rising equity volatility, gold prices obligingly went up when equity volatility did. But now that you can buy equity volatility directly there is no need to hedge against it with gold, and gold has quite sensibly become a worse hedge against volatility.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-13/havens-just-aren-t-safe-any-more-as-markets-rumble-goldman-says

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>>8314490
>t.brainlet

>> No.8314527

Red day on very low volume. Story of the sector tiday us good news = flat, no news =a couple percent red. I scooped up some discount shares on my US indoor growing tech play FFT at 65 cents earlier.

Not much to report really. I'm mostly using this flat or slight downward trend period to identify which small cap stocks are most stable and which have weak support.

>> No.8314538
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8314538

Did anyone buy Arista Networks(ANET) on the $60 dip they had about 3 weeks ago and make a $70 per share profit already?

I feel so stupid I was going to buy it at $240 and decided not to and yesterday it was at $307

>> No.8314539

>>8314524
awesome, you showed me nothing

>> No.8314559

>>8314527
hey man come to xaviers, we have an OTC room where we talk weed.
https://discord.me/xavier

you too
>>8314468

>> No.8314560

>>8314206
Potentially. Most carriers have holdings for 5g in the 20-60 GHz range which traditionally limits them to line of sight. Newer tech such as MIMO and beam forming increase range and make Non-LOS possible, but 5G, especially at those frequencies will require an antenna on every light pole.

AT&T is currently experimenting with inexpensive "plastic antennas" to offset the cost attached to deploying so many pico cells.

I'm thinking that Sprint will have the the 3g/4g equivalent of 600/700 MHz. Allows for less CAPEX needed to cover more area.

My concern is attached to backhaul, which Sprint has done terribly with in the past (using *maybe* bonded T-1s while rivals at a cell site are using 10/100 Mbit Metro-E and Fiber). They've used Microwave for tower to tower backhaul, so that's helped a bit.

I'm hoping that working with Charter helps in the backhaul department.

They've also been having customers help them by giving away 4G repeaters to customers and businesses. Smart move as 4G is more fragile than 3G.

>> No.8314570

>>8314559
>1 post by this ID

>> No.8314578

>>8314490
>Gold and Silver aren't attractive investments anymore
imagine how dumb you have to be to think this

>> No.8314583

based netflix

>> No.8314600

>>8314539
people itt think that looking at a chart is DD

>>8314559
buy RSII and GRCK

thank me later

>> No.8314614

>>8314559
xaviers is absolute garbage, kys you dumb brainlet nigger

>> No.8314615
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>>8314578
Not as dumb as the person investing in gold and silver
fucking retards

>> No.8314644

Lot of hostility in this thread today.

>> No.8314656

>>8314644
sometimes this thread is full of hate, for no reason.. at all.. people just hate just to hate

>> No.8314669

need a good meme stock to swing within a few days

anything at a premo price?

>> No.8314671

>>8314614
uh huh over 200 users, most of which are here.
beginners, experts, and guys who have gotten good enough to quit their job and trade for a living, and bots to help you trade.. and you're gonna talk out of your ass?
everyone who joins the room loves it, quit bitching because you were too autistic to not be banned.

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>>8314600
>Gold
>DD
This general is hopeless.

>> No.8314679

>>8314644
I'm sorry Anon, the fund is just not doing well today :(

>> No.8314680

>>8314644
It should be, Hate and Anger is peak of life

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>>8314644

We're lovey dovey on green days i promise.

>> No.8314694

>>8314644
I just want to see all time SPY highs again :'(

>> No.8314696

>>8314656
Welcome to 4chan

>> No.8314697

>>8314671
>bots to help you trade
sounds like you got some pros over there

>>8314675
gold has alot of things that effect it, not just its chart..

>> No.8314702

>>8314505
basically what everybody is already is doing when they shill some stock with no proof they have any skin in the game.

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>>8314671
>2 posts by this ID
>shows up to shill hit shitty chat room where they circle jerk about their own intelligence
>"Everyone" is already their Anon!!
>that's why Xavier sends payed shills to desperately recruit dumb fags

Congratulations on your dumbass club, seriously

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8314720

Alright alright we hit the previous ath nasdaq lets reverse now

>> No.8314752

crash?maybe?

>> No.8314769

>>8314720
Bear Cycle just started, strap in.

>> No.8314773

>>8314697
20 or so talented programmers.

>>8314718
Relax dude, I post the link once in a while for noobs asking questions, it helps them a lot.

>> No.8314781

NASDAQ double topped, countries are starting to bicker. Soon 10 years since the last recession, the longest period we've gone without a recession. I'm gonna buy the bags off you permabulls for cheap.

>> No.8314783

>>8314752
>>8314769
in your dreams fags
watch this, Power minutes, Shoot, or Ill do a handstand

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>>8314697
>Brainler said gold was a bad investment
>Prove him wrong
?
Whatever. PREP THE BEAR.

>> No.8314818

>>8314785
I don't think there's gonna be safe havens during this crash. Sure, gold is a good hedge in the sense that it can't go to zero, but I don't expect it to do much better than the other things

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>>8314773
Don't tell me to calm down you faggot, shove a broad sword up your asshole then canon ball of a building

>> No.8314842

didnt the market just have a borderline crash like 2 months ago, what the fuck is going on

>> No.8314856

>>8314818
Gold and silver arent inverse to the market retard, they will go down with the market because us dollar will rise
equities always performed better

>> No.8314861

>>8314818
I looked into it
Gold dip too in 2008
Gold is only good against hyperinflation

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>>8314818
That's the fucking point of gold. It doesn't move, and only increases(slowly) in value, but check out what silver did during the last crash.

>> No.8314883

>>8314142
There's still Mattis. Who are the other adults in the white house?

>> No.8314888

>>8314856
Did I say anything about gold being inverse, idiot? Did I say there were safe havens? Gold is a hedge against fiat collapse, not your regular asset dumps

>> No.8314894

>>8314888
well actually, you fucking nigger, I replied to the wrong person

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8314911

I feel the absolute R A G E ITT

>> No.8314923

ok its cool guys we are mooning now

>> No.8314931

>>8314468
>AAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
>MY PAPER

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>>8314923
>>8314911
i lost 10 cents today

>> No.8314986
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8314986

can I get a refund?

>> No.8315021

BASED

>> No.8315026

>>8314986
>>8314973
Just call the customer service and explain the situation carefully

>> No.8315053
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>>8315026
will they take me to the moon?

>> No.8315068

what do you guys think of buying FENG tomorrow? thinking it might hit its 4.94 support and if it doesnt, even more reason to buy. Its in a nice dip at the moment

>> No.8315093

>>8315053
They'll give you what you deserve

>> No.8315106

>>8315093
are you one of those coinfags that come here to troll?

>> No.8315110

wow that was so fucking BASED
FUCKING BASED

>> No.8315123
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JUST

>> No.8315134

>>8315110
>>8315021
are you ok, my dude?

>> No.8315143

>>8315123
It's only 1% you'll probably get that back and then some tomorrow

>> No.8315144
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8315144

This is fine

>> No.8315151

>>8315123
will you be my sugar daddy?

>> No.8315168

>>8315134
I think he's lost it

>> No.8315169

>>8315143
It's my worst day since the big vol spike. Underperforming the market is the shittiest feel.

>> No.8315198

>>8315144
Did you all in or options?

>> No.8315207

>>8315151
400k isn't exactly sugar daddy money.

>> No.8315209

>>8315144
You're all caught up :)

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>>8315151
>>8315123
I just realized that most of these images are paper trading crops. This thread is like 90% shiposting and LARPing.

>> No.8315249

>>8315198
Just an options dip.

>> No.8315295

why the fuck dont you people talk about good buys, what to watch or avoid? instead its all just AAAAH MY MONEY FUCK YOU MEMES NOT GONNA MAKE IT BROS AAAAH LARPING I LOST 5 MILLION DOLLARS

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8315303

this is just a outright lie

what about Visa? Intel? Home depot???

>> No.8315317

>>8315295
>why the fuck dont you people talk about good buys
It happens all day everyday here, problem is they are considered memes as well. You're just not looking if you don't see it.

>> No.8315320

>>8315295
Because on days like this everything is a shit buy

>> No.8315336

>>8313861
>red day after the entire market was wildly green on Friday, gapped up at open on Monday
>its the apocalypse
|state| of /biz. Are you finally learning what happens when you don’t monitor and manage your risk? I’ve been saying this for weeks.
If you’re down >2% today you deserve it tbqh. I’m down .5%.

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>>8315218
We're not all NEETs.

>> No.8315354

>>8315295
Plenty of good buys have been brought up, but as >>8315317 said, people immediately post memes about them so you write them off as not being serious options. But if you did some DD most of them are actually quite solid.

>> No.8315368

>>8315320
not neccesarily, there are definetly things that are looking good for setups. Like i said before, FENG looks like a good buy at open tomorrow especially if it dips to its previous support

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>>8315218
not larping

>> No.8315401

>>8315295
proper analysis takes more number crunching than any home investor is capable of
the best anyone here can do is guess. maybe speculate on upcoming news events

>> No.8315411

Anyway survey time,
>age
>profession
>net worth

>> No.8315432

>>8315336
.15% whew

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8315436

Daily Reminder

>> No.8315496

>>8315401
This is why I only put money into growth. If a sector can grow significantly, there's money to be made. Meanwhile trading based on events or trying to calculate "real" values for already established companies is often a crapshoot.

>> No.8315500

>>8314671
>implying its not just constant porn spamming and larpers with god complexes

>> No.8315505

>>8315436
>implying I didn’t make a boatload in bitcoin to bring back to the stock market
Pretty sure at least half of smg regulars did

>> No.8315511

>>8315411
please die in a raging fire

>> No.8315518

>>8314973
I LOST 3 DOLLARS AND 29 CENTS, I CAN'T PAY RENT TO MOMMY NOW

>> No.8315535

>>8315500
actually its professional by force. theres like 10 mods who kick anyone who posts anything NSFW outside of the NSFW rooms.

>> No.8315555
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8315555

>>8315535
https://discord.me/xavier

>> No.8315567

>>8315535
>an 80% transgender chatroom

>> No.8315630

>>8315555
>checked
but seriously, I used to go there and lurk the voice chat with bags, some other dude that sounded like a stoner, and pimple (I mean popeye the sailor man)

I learned a bit, but the most money I've made has been on my own calls.

>> No.8315638

>>8315567
haha its 4chan man, the autistic power is what made some of the members in the room 100k plus.

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>>8315555
BAG HOLDER FUCKING EXPOSED

>> No.8315662

>>8315630
Pimple is Qanon

>> No.8315673

>>8315662
>Qanon
who?

>> No.8315678

>>8315630
>>8315555
kill yourself immediately
theres literally no reason to shill a discord unless youre a scammer/pumpdump group

>> No.8315681

>>8315638
>implying those people made that money from other peoples tips

>> No.8315691

>>8315650
holy shit
bagholder's a fucking retard and he's an """expert""" in this shitty larp group
lmao

>> No.8315704

>>8315673
The greatest larper on 4chan

>> No.8315732

>>8315678
haha actually no, just a group of people working together to improve and make money and teach noobs.
not the end of the world

>> No.8315764

>>8315732
>this is what delusional roleplayers really tell others

>> No.8315777

>>8315732
so let me get this straight you fucking nigger/bitch/kike
You are telling me you dont do low marketcap stocks/penny stocks? you do index swing trading only? Right? Be honest scumbag

>> No.8315786

>>8315678
huh? I mean I learned a bit about options there, but honestly it wasn't that great. mostly just people looking for a handout. I don't think that's worthy of killing myself over though

>>8315704
I don't doubt it. he got a few calls right, but I doubt the whole "worked for cern, and made a god program that can pick stocks before they moon" kind of deal.

>> No.8315797

>>8315732
And what's wrong with doing that on 4chin? Actually, don't start shitting this place up any further.

>> No.8315806

>>8315777
lol wutttt
we have multiple rooms. Swing trades, day trades, investing.
People bring up their ideas, others check out the companies and the technicals.
some play safe, some play risky.

>> No.8315819

>>8315496
I watched Shkreli's videos on investing and I found it interesting how one puts a company's story into numbers.

Most of the time, you should have the current market price, especially in the US. Then you look at your model and the inputs you entered. Are they realistic ? Is there any chance that growth can be stronger ? Is the market underestimating the management's capabilities to generate value ? etc

The goal is not to be right to the cents, but to be in the ball park.

One recent find : Nissin Foods Co (1475.HK). I think this recently IPOed stock has potential and has been under the radar of the chink investors. It sells premium instant noodles, snacks and frozen foods in HK and Mainland China. A down to earth business which is not as sexy as the tech scam chink shit.

It has :
-no debts
-40% of the MC is cash
-9 factories
-a well-established brand name in big cities
-relatively high margins

The CEO is only 38yo and is the grandson of the founder. They have a whole market to conquer (China). The market seems to take into account growth equal to the inflation (+2%/year). And the value is already 10% more of their current SP. I think it has potential.

>> No.8315830

>>8315806
Piece of shit scumbag

>> No.8315832

>>8315797
well obviously if you take this stuff seriously you want better analysis, faster response times, deeper conversations.

lets be honest, /RHG/ is nothing but fighting, mocking, and butt hurt when people are right.

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>>8315806
I hate you fucking larpers so fucking much

>> No.8315852

>>8315832
Youre lying

>> No.8315855

>>8315786
Pimple's voice is great. You can hear the neck fat and cigarette tar choking him down. He sounds near death. Hes in the sort of physical condition a welfare abuser would be in, not a 300 IQ rain man.

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8315886

>>8315832
>/RHG/ is nothing but fighting, mocking, and butt hurt when people are right.
>desperately shill for us to join
What did he mean by this?

>> No.8315913

>>8315855
it is, his boston/brooklyn stereotypical accent is great. I sometimes miss his angelic smoker's voice drowning my ears in hatred and ecstasy over how he got worked up over the small shit.

>> No.8315922

>>8315848
>>8315852
about what?

Jesus Christ the butt hurt is fucking insane.
have you ever been in the room?
how is this shit complicated?
theres no gimics, no charging, no pumping, moderated rooms and people helping eachother grow and also having fun in a community.
almost everyone in these RHG rooms are already in it.

why are you guys so insane about this shit.
theres a link that gets posted here maybe once a week at Most. usually to beginners requesting help.

>> No.8315931

>>8315832
> 4chan is nothing but fighting, mocking, and butt hurt when people are right
Fixed that for you. Personally I find this general much comfier than most. If you don't like it, you know how to leave.

>> No.8315932

>>8315832
fuck off seriously. maybe if you retards contributed a single thing to this thread besides shilling but you've spent every single one of your posts talking about some irrelevant discord. is shilling a requirement to move up the ranks?

>> No.8315953
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>>8315496
that doesn't always work either.
if you read the meme book you'd know the anecdote about people paying for the future value of the airline industry decades in advance. even as the industry exploded in revenue the stock value had no where to go.
I don't consider weed stocks an obvious buy for the same reason.

>> No.8315972
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8315972

>>8315732
>teach noobs.
noobs teaching noobs. sounds like a great place

>> No.8315986

>>8315819
Martin Shkreli? Or do you mean Kreil?

I understand the process of putting things into numbers and do it myself too, I just don't put too much emphasis on it.

The one company you just brought up does sound interesting, cheers for the tip. Looking at the bullet points of a company is my main method of putting things into perspective, too. I guess I could turn that into rating numbers as well, but it's not the same

>> No.8315989

anyways... The Nikkei Better not tank today

>> No.8316003

>>8315922
Stephy is the only good poster and hes an unstable transexual

>> No.8316012
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8316012

>The day the LARPers were BTFO.

>> No.8316050

>>8315953
>I don't consider weed stocks an obvious buy for the same reason

That depends where the chart happens to be at any given time. Some of the large cap weed stocks like Aurora and Canopy don't have a great deal of room to increase and investing in them is mainly a bet that they will momentarily eclipse their previous ATH (around 35% gain from current prices). Some of the small and mid caps, on the other hand, even now have plenty of upside (2x+).

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>>8315931
This general is the most comfy. We just need to get rid of the LARPer scum.

>> No.8316084

>>8315986
Shkreli, the pharmabro that just got sentenced to jail for 7y
I followed his shows on youtube. He made very good biotech long calls and I had mad gains.
I am kinda on my own now

What is nice about HK stock market is that you can find things like that and HKD is pegged to USD (range is 7.75-7.85). You have less currency risk.

Can you explain to a brainlet what your bullet points are ?

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8316118

>>8315922
>beginners requesting help
>no one requested it
>shoving this bullshit discord down our throats

Hang yourself

>> No.8316136

>>8315953
Yeah, I do consider the price development of course before buying. If a speculative bubble already happened and everybody knows about it the P/Es are unrealistically high. I mean come on, would you hold a weed stock for 30 years?

I'm looking to buy into robotics and biotech when prices come down

>> No.8316274

>>8316084
That could be interesting, gotta see if his vids are still up.

I don't wanna put out my full list, there's personal stuff and I'd get bullied on an anonymous forum. But it's basically evaluating financials, current situation, direction, leadership, business idea, room for growth and the market. And then take current price into account to see if it's already clearly high in relation to the estimated risk and reward

>> No.8316330

>>8316274
thx for your input

>> No.8316404

Why are you guys so toxic and transphobic :(

>> No.8316432

>>8316404
Stay in your containment discord you worthless larper

>> No.8316485

>>8316404
I'm not transphobic, you just need to accept your mentally ill and should seek treatment

>> No.8316503
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8316503

I think this piece of shit is going to tank, am I safer investing in Disney or shorting it?

>> No.8316507
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8316507

Today was suppose to be a good day, the nips told me so!

>> No.8316791

>>8316050
>Some of the small and mid caps, on the other hand, even now have plenty of upside
assuming they survive at all. new sectors generally get saturated in firms just for most of them to die off, along with the entirety of your investment.

>>8316136
>I mean come on, would you hold a weed stock for 30 years?
why not? if you bet on the right horse during a bubble the survivors of the crash get to reap the profits of the entire sector, that's why there's a bubble in the place.
>If a speculative bubble already happened and everybody knows about it the P/Es are unrealistically high
PE ratios are a very rough rule of thumb aren't that informative with growth firms
>I'm looking to buy into robotics and biotech when prices come down
it's possible that that never happens either. some industries manage to grow along with the overall economy without much speculation.

>> No.8316897

>>8316503
Nevermind, Degiro doesn't allow shorting shitflix, Disney it is

>> No.8316898

>>8316136
Been my recent play. BOTZ ARKG ARKQ XBI EDIT NTLA MZOR

>> No.8316904

hurry what are we all swinging for tomorrow? I'm doing apple at least

>> No.8316946
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8316946

This has been my day so far
>wake up
>check robinhood
>I dropped 1.59% in a few hours
>go back to sleep

most of my gains in one month's worth of work is gone in a day and I don't even know why

>> No.8316968
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8316968

Strong support at 214

>> No.8316973

Hope yall bought the FNGU dip

>> No.8316989

Who is interested in researching an antisocial investment portfolio with me?

Basic gist:
>long
guns
defense contractors
alcohol
marijuana
tobacco
gaming
any industry or company being targeted for "social" divestment
shale extractors

>short
solar and other alternative energy (besides nuclear)
tesla
any company targeted for "social" investment

>> No.8317011

>>8316989
Go ahead and short facebook bro

>> No.8317015

>>8316968
Sounds about right.

>> No.8317023

>>8316989
>t. small spectator

>> No.8317038

>>8317023
who's that?

>> No.8317062

>>8317038
Thats you

>> No.8317067

>>8316989
You could just start running fentanyl.

>> No.8317068

>>8317011
The way this was written makes me think the post was ironic but I don't see why not. They can't even pursue a coherent strategy anymore with all their worrying about their image with my fellow millennials who happen to be faggots.

>> No.8317078
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8317078

R8 My Planned Trades.

So far TVIX is working out, planning to get out at 14

>> No.8317087

>>8317062
What does it mean though.

>> No.8317102

>>8317087
so you dont know what the Cot is

>> No.8317108

>>8317102
Nope.

>> No.8317140
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8317140

strong support at 313
based

>> No.8317186

Netflix to $50 by end of the week

>> No.8317203

>>8316989
why short solar its doing good

>> No.8317235

>>8317203
It's overpriced shit that will never work in 75% of the country for anything close to its cost. Also, a lot of American solar companies got chinkshit panels that are now getting tariffed and their costs are going up.

>> No.8317264

>>8317235
How come companies that do hippy shit are always so poorly planned and managed

>> No.8317277

>>8317235
fucking small specs

>> No.8317283

>>8317264
Trust fund kids who think they can translate feels over reals into daddy's business

>> No.8317291

>>8317264
Fuckin’ wonder...

>> No.8317306

>>8317264
Soyboys and women

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8317326

>>8317277
>t chang the solar panel saleschonk

>> No.8317431

>>8317264
any small and growing company that doesn't have a dedicated manager is poorly planned and managed.

>> No.8317484

only brainlets are buying weedstocks right now, biggest fucking bubble in a while, or when its legalised the top notch AAAAA kush will sell for $0.50/gram MAX

>> No.8317496

>>8317431
>small companies doomed to failure save for some that have exceptional ingenuity that trumps their deficit have poor planning and management
>small companies worth investing in are wisely planned and well managed

FTFY now go beg for shekels in Palo Alto you hippie.

>> No.8317514

>>8317484
>regulations and taxes vs law enforcement risk premium

Tbh I would not be surprised if law enforcement risk premium turned out to be lower practically everywhere.

>> No.8317573

>>8317264
artists aren't rigid thinkers, you want a hippy to start a company and a nazi to run it

>> No.8317582

>>8317573
>Every profitable company has to have a novel idea

WRONG
R
O
N
G

>> No.8317587

>>8317573
nazis can't even clean their rooms yet

>> No.8317602

>>8317235
nice call
>>8317484
I hope a company makes weed without the high and sell it like cigarettes, now that is some money

>> No.8317613

baaaaaaaaaaaaased

>> No.8317624

>>8317496
I guarantee you every growth oriented small company is as absolute shit show behind the scenes.
even large companies with humble beginnings will brag about it after the fact

>> No.8317648

>>8317587
lol
>>8317582
i didn't say every company, just an out of the box idea, doesnt have to be acid trip "novel"

>> No.8317665

>>8317624
since growth oriented tends to be a euphemism for repeated failure burnouts shitting out fad ideas for cuck investors to swallow whole, i will agree with you on this one

>> No.8317726

>>8317648
also
>implying nazis werent avantgarde visionaries

Jordan Cuckerson archetypes are not realistic in the least

>> No.8317776

Once again and right on schedule, incoming /pol/ thread.

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we will get our /greenday/ soon

>> No.8317859

>>8317776
abandon thread angry posters inc, I'd rather argue on xbl

>> No.8317908

>>8317665
it's more that growth is extremely competitive, and since investors know most start ups are going to fail, if the 5 people working there aren't working 12 hour days it's not worth their money.
and running a 5 man operations is an entirely different job than running a 50 man operation, which is a different job from running a 500 man one. if the growth actually happens the people inside have to re invent themselves a dozen times.
it's a shit show because turning a car into a plane while driving it is the name of the game.

>> No.8318096

>>8317859
>xbl
what is this?

>> No.8318126

>>8318096
Xbox Live

>> No.8318164
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>>8318126
Oh OK. Thanks.

>> No.8318171

>>8317776
15% of the populations commits 47% of the murders in the US
Really makes you think

>> No.8318417

>>8317908
>12 hours a day
>implying long hours

That is like the top quartile of wage-earners at least. It's not even bad if you are interested in what you are doing.

>> No.8318431

I just bought a ton of stocks today. Did I fuck up? Did I just buy the peak of the next dip?

>> No.8318480
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>>8318431
it's over

i hope you didnt use margin :^)

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8318497

>>8318417
entrepreneurs aren't paid by the hour, if anything they're pouring their own savings into the business.
they wouldn't do it if they didn't love it but chances are they end up financially worse off than before they started.

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>>8318431

>> No.8318673

>>8318523
>>8318480
Fuck. Guess I'll just switch to 3x bear etfs :^)

>> No.8318945

>>8318497
>muh entrepreneurship

>> No.8319012

>>8317140
you're a literal retard, netflix will crash down to 227 to fill the gap

>> No.8319101

>>8319012
Nice prediction brainlet, is that what the youtubers told you?

>> No.8319140

>>8316946
you'll get all those 1,54$ back one day anon

>> No.8319174

>>8319101
>strong support
>literally there for a week or so
>with a huge gap waiting to be filled
ULTIMATE NIGGERSHIP

>> No.8319213

>>8319174
fucking retard
This is what is known as a "meme"

>> No.8319244

>>8319213
>investing in "strong support" netflix
may I recommend bitconnect?

>> No.8319267

>>8319244
thanks for the suggestion

>> No.8319287

>>8319267
yeah, you can also invest in fitbit or gopro. Good stocks, "strong support".

>> No.8319317

>>8319287
Im just letting you know, your autism showing, you should control yourself

>> No.8319339

>>8314222
You're not even holding that much dude. Also >fidelity

>> No.8319381

>>8319317
nig nog

>comes to /smg/ on a day when SPY went down and expects a picnic
even more of a nig nog

>> No.8319391

>>8319174
Netflix may not be a good investment at this price, but that doesn't mean it has to crash. Just look at TSLA - it's held at 300+ for a year dispite continued delays and bad news.

>> No.8319410

>>8319391
i am going to be very surprised if netflix doesn't fill that gap by the next 2-3 months.

>> No.8319422

>>8319410
If it does, it'll be because the rest of the market is crashing 30% too.

>> No.8319423

>>8319410
prepare to be surprised as the sp500s backbone doesnt drop like you small spec tards think

>> No.8319425

My dad claims that he has developed a secret algorithm that can predict the stock market ups and downs with 80s accuracy. Is he full of shit?

>> No.8319435

>>8319410
i've got a feeling FNGU are all going to tumble down quite a bit, and taking the market down with them.
but value stocks should recover more quickly... i'm hoping.

>> No.8319444

>>8319425
80%

>> No.8319446

>>8319425
yes

>> No.8319460

>>8319425
up or down tomorrow?

>> No.8319462

>>8319425
80s accuracy is what lead to black monday.

>> No.8319473

>>8319462
kek

>> No.8319477

>>8319435
we'll see

>>8319423
>>8319422
this board is too hyped, learn to play it chill

>> No.8319486

>>8319460

OMX30 will go down before closing tomorrow.

>> No.8319497

>>8319477
kill yourself faggot

>> No.8319502

Don't forget to buy RIOT. After the next spike, it'll never be this low again.

>> No.8319524

>>8319497
no u

fags like you hype XIVH and then come here crying about -99%

>> No.8319534

thats weird, the nikkei futures have barely dropped in relation to today

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>>8319462

>> No.8319714

>a month ago the nikkei poster was a happy lad posing anime pictures and drinking coca cola
>today all signs of joy are gone, he's telling people to kill themselves
what does this site do to us?

>> No.8319727

>>8319534
It's almost..... Like...... Japan ............ Is a different Country.......hmmmmmm

>> No.8319745
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8319745

>>8319714
it's a shame

i really liked him too

>> No.8319748

>>8319714
Fuck, you figured out my identity

>> No.8319769

>>8319714
He's just doing it for the (You)s

>> No.8319773

>>8319727
fuck you they are all linked

>> No.8319803

>>8319773
Yes, and no.

>> No.8319823

>all of these magapedes investing in japanese companies
ironic

>> No.8319826

>>8319803
The nikkei is heavily linked to the sp500, dollar/yen
You cant refute this

>> No.8319845

>>8319823
go back to commie honeypot infinitychan PLEASE

>> No.8319921

>>8319826
Yeah, but the Nikkei isn't the S&P 500. The yen isn't the the US dollar.

>> No.8320092

>>8319921
youre only literally right

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>>8319826
>>8319921
ITT /biz/ has no idea what it's talking about and pulls shit out of it's collective asses.

>> No.8320267

>>8315144
We all have those days anon. I lost $450 today. ;_;

>> No.8320278

>>8320194
youre just showing proof for what I said, that yen is carry trade instrument and the nikkei is linked
what are you fucking blind?

>> No.8320342

>>8313861
Question:

Going to be away from the internet for two weeks. Planning on buying a few hundred shares of MU, is that a good bag to hold while I'm gone?

>> No.8320569

I live in Canada and I'm wondering what you fellow Canadians recommend as a good broker website?

>> No.8320573

>>8320342
>Buying at the ATH
Text book /biz/

>> No.8320590

>>8320342
Buy TVIX.

Wallstreet about to crash and burn.

>> No.8320612

>>8320573
What makes you think it's going to drop? It's been steadily climbing forever.

>> No.8320617

>>8320573
how do you buy anything then? pretty everything is at an all time high from where it was months or even a year ago

>> No.8320626

>>8320573
Looking at the Monthly it may have enough directional energy to hit 80.

>> No.8320634

Been buying a lot of AYX lately.

>> No.8320692

>>8320617
>>8320612
they think its like crypto

>> No.8320898

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eizNjXL-Iv0

kek

>> No.8321277

>tfw today deleted my last month of gains
>tfw thought I was buying the dip this morning but the dip kept on dipping

So it goes.

>> No.8321317

>>8320617
>>8320626
>>8320692
Literal FOMOing. Have fun chasing and getting burned. I know MU has killer fundamentals, but the whole market is about to retest the February lows.

>> No.8321390

>>8321317
I know that would profit you but it doesnt mean thats going to happen or that its even likely

>> No.8321511

>>8321390
I'm not dumb enough to bet against MU(or the NASDAQ), but I'm also not dumb enough to chase. Go ahead though. What I say shouldn't matter. If you believe in the trade, go for it.

>> No.8321583

>AMD being targeted
Uh oh.

>> No.8321610

>>8321511
chasing is more profitable in this market
if you arent market neutral with a bullish inclination idk what to say to you. If you think this is the top Im very sorry

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>>8320898
The Chad investor vs The cuckoin miner

>> No.8321629

Bio boys what do you think of Danaher buying IDT?

>> No.8321632

I wanna buy oil but I only have $500. Is it even worth it?

>> No.8321637

>>8321583
give me a quick run down on this please

>> No.8321658

>>8321632
no way, wti oil can only ever reach $70 top from now on

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>>8321583
time to buy the AMD dip tomorrow

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>>8320898
>oldmanyellsatbitcoin.jpg

"it's volatile, and everybody knows the only way to make money investing is the long play, heh, right guys?"

>> No.8321768

>>8321610
The truth is that we don't know if this is the top or not. Unless you've got a crystal ball. Markets are driven by emotions first, fundamentals second. From the looks of things people are starting to get spooked. You cannot deny that there is as much faith in the market as there was in December.

>> No.8321793

>>8321632
I wouldn't expect oil to make major gains unless a major producing country gets caught up in political unrest and/or war. Also US production is ready to ramp up to meet any price increase.

>> No.8321797

>>8321658
Why? I was only looking at XOM. My point was with so little does it even matter? If it goes up 10% that's great but I only get $50 minus commissions.

>> No.8321832

>>8321768
I can assure you this is NOT the top, and markets are driven by funds. mutual funds, banks, 401ks, ect, it will go up forever as long as more people are born

>> No.8321864

>>8321797
well... thats a fucking stock not Oil
also, it will a year to make $50, whats the point? Your better off gambling on roulette

>> No.8321878

>>8321637
A short selling firm that announces shady damning "evidence" has put AMD on their sights claiming their new CPU's have major vulnerabilities. All the claims are false and the white paper is BS, but it all looks legit to the layman.

>>>/g/>>65086646

>> No.8321907

>>8320898
This guy's is awesome

>> No.8321915

>>8321864
>well... thats a fucking stock not Oil
It's an oil stock. I should've clarified though.
>whats the point?
That's what I'm asking. Probably just add to my existing ETF portfolio instead.

>> No.8321941

>>8321832
>I can assure you.....
Stopped reading there. I'm done. The market will teach you.

>> No.8321970

>>8321915
I dont trade oil unless its on a range, Im staying out for now until it goes to 55 area, if you use leverage then its fine, but dont buy now its just not worth it

as for the exxon mobile stock, thats going to perform way better than oil but still your money wont go far

>> No.8322001

>>8321941
Im extremely experienced, you will just see

>> No.8322074

>>8321970
Is it best to just accumulate for a year or two until I can make a higher purchase?
I mean even waiting a year for $500 if I put in $5000 today instead of $500 sounds really trifling

>> No.8322130

>>8322074
just keep putting in small amounts of money every week, slowly
if you can consistently put in the same money every week thats the best way, only a larger amount once a month

>> No.8322172

>>8322130
I just have a model ETF portfolio that I have been dollar cost averaging for a bit because I don't really know what I'm doing yet. It's just really boring.

>> No.8322263

>>8322130
do you recommend leveraged ETFs at all as a beginner, and to what point if so? if i have half my annual income saved, it seems like a solid bet to take on mroe risk for more growth quickly, because if i lose it well i can just save that amount back right quick, am i wrong?

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>>8322263
Yeah, same question.

>> No.8322374

>>8322172
get more money, move back in with mommy if you have to

>>8322263
I guess 3x leveraged index etfs are ok for beginners, if its american indexes only

>> No.8322538

>>8322374
>move back in with mommy if you have to
no

How do you define, more money?

>> No.8322553

>>8322374
i own half my current portfolio in TECL which is a 3x tech long ETF, seems like its a great deal as long as we stay in a bull market, obviously if we go bear (when we do) i can swap over to TECS if tech takes a continual hit, and if not then just short SP500 or Nasdaq in general.

investing doesnt seem toho hard tas longa s youf ollow general market trends, beating a stanadard return at least maybe not Buffett tier gains but i dont need that to retire early

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>>8322553
Needs moar dividinz

>> No.8322687

>>8322538
oh I dont know, 25k - 50k dollars in the market, and for day trading at least 1000 per position

if you only have 500 youll get tricked because youll barely make anything and hold longer than necessary

>>8322553
Just buy Brkb its a better version of the sp50

>> No.8322796

>>8322687
Kind of what I thought, I'll just continue what ETFs I have and build up.