/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>7983955
no fucking way

100 eoy
1000 2019
10000 2020

>>7983995
About to scoop 10K and will store on cold storage for 1-2 years. Comfy as fuck hold.

>>7983995
>Being this delusional

LMAO

>>7983955
Why though?

>>7984585
>because of muh sheik money
when's the announcement coming you sand niggers.. the only thing being tokenized is mass delusion

>>7983955
Bruh, don't fuckup your fellow JNTlemen. Seriously /biz/ will not account to any gains. If you don't have anything to buy, just fud it so your fellow JNTlemen accumulate from idiots. Let the normies FOMO in. Let's all be JNTlemen alright? Thank you

>>7984666
Calm down there Satan.

>>7984674
Only idiots will sell, and you know that OP. If an idiot holds JNT and decides to sell, then that makes our community smarter. Do the right thing guys

>>7984674
How poor are you faggots that it takes you weeks to accumulate?I legit feel sorry for you plebs lowering yourself to this for a few extra jnt

>>7984718
I don't have any buy orders. But there are some that were placed and I want these people to make it. I already bought my bags

which exchange should I use, it doesn't trade on binance yet, thinking about getting 10,000 or 20,000 tokens.

sold my bcpt yesterday to double my jnt position and bcpt is mooning like a motherfucker right now im so salty.

fuck fuck fuck

>>7984782
i have 40k jnt now but fuck me it hurts right now

>>7984771
kucoin

>>7984811

Anon. Take your JNT, put it on a hardware wallet, lock it somewhere safe and leave for one year. Seriously. Don't let your emotions ruin this.

>>7984782

me too brother, invested heavily and felling my hands get weaker after each day. should probably just dump and move on.

>>7984911
Please just dump and never come back to another JNT thread. It's obvious you have no clue about what you bought. I guess you started crypto in December or January? :/

You won't make it, I'm sorry.

>>7984965
actually I did start back in november. Shit's too stressful

>>7984979
Did you get in the ICO? If so was this your first ICO?

>>7984965
I started in December. This shit is still the real deal. This will be able to drive mass adoption...

how much longer do i have to accumulate? poor fag here

Someone explain why jnt will make me a millionaire. I have 5k jnt.

>>7984979
>>7984847

Check this out. Do you have a finance/economics background? If yes, you should be able to understand what Jibrel is trying to do and more importantly, how what they do transfers value to you as a token holder.

Read this and focus for 15 minutes (I know it's hard): https://medium.com/@jibrelnetwork/jcash-and-jibrel-network-token-roll-out-61f267e9a083

Furthermore, SEPA transfers to jWallet were announced today. This would enable direct, zero fee purchases of BTC/ETH/JNT or direct conversions of fiat to jCash.

>inb4 bizlets still don't understand

>>7985032
I don't know that it will make you a millionaire. But tokenizing assets on the blockchain that require an amount of JNT locked up as proof of solvency means JNT should be valued as high as the total of assets they tokenize.

>>7985115
Yup, and add speculation value on top of that.

is the SEED announcement this week?

>>7985033

They would have to tokenize 30 billion USD worth of assets to make you a guaranteed millionaire, and that is if you assume that EVERYONE has weaker hands than you and will decide to dump the token into the DAO buying it up.

>>7985136
Plus banking transfers as an easy on-ramp for main street investors. It's like a Tether but you actually deposit your own money into it and get tokens.
And yea, I meant that JNT will be valued at a minimum of the total of the assets they tokenize.

>>7985168
Honestly I don't think it's unrealistic for them to hit 30 billion in a few years in tokenized assets.

>>7985199
They actually just announced SEPA transfers straight to fucking jWallet. If people had half a brain this would pump the price like mad right now.

>>7984718
anyone who went all in early on got fucked by sat bleed, so even if you're rich you lost a ton of value right there

also the volume is shit so lets say you're rich and you want 500k JNT, you're gonna get maybe, maybe 1/10th before the prices sky rocket because there's simply not that many people selling

not saying that JNT is a bad pick but there's major opportunity cost involved so I can't blame people for not buying in completely already

>>7985168
or they tokenize nothing but people speculate that they'll tokenize 30b

or they tokenize 1 b and 1b worth of JNT get burned and people speculate that since everyone is making money then a lot more banks will participate so people buy higher on exchanges

if this sees any institutional adoption at all within the next 18 months it's a top 3 coin barring some catastrphe

but that's a big if at this point

>>7985239
>>7985255

At this point if the sheikh tokenizes 5 million dollars it wuld require 11m JNT to be locked up. Look at this shit volume and put a million dollar mandatory buy pressure on it.

>mfw biz still regurgitates "sell the news" when the news is LITERAL buy pressure

go ahead and dump your pittance of JNT into that lol

>>7985255
Seriously, who the hell with $1b will say to himself "yeah lemme just put my $1b in a bank in Switzerland that I don't know the owners and cannot trust"?
I think $1b adoption should come from the market. Investors will be small fish in all of this probably investing a couple of mill at most.

>>7985337
Banks looking for added liquidity from their cash

>>7985255
>top 3 coin
wtf

>>7985240
only people in telegram know it so it kinda makes sense that the price hasn't moved

>>7985315
that's exactly why I refuse to sell at this point, they're not gonna be like 'hey guys we're tokenizing fiat now make sure you buy your JNT before tomorrow', you're either in or you're out once that happens

>>7985315
Haven't found the answer, but.. If they locked up say 5m USD and it takes 10m tokens. When JNT hits $1 and they now have 10m locked up do they release any or do you have to return 5m in jUSD to release the CryDR?

>>7985337
Talal literally was managing 4 billion of the royal family money.I dont doubt he can get them to put a decent amount in, they are working out of the sheiks private office, should say it all really.If you are investing big money in something, what better place to watch them than right under your nose.

>>7985315
the sheik won't tokenize anything

seed fund is going to provide liquidity to roll out jcash

the liquity provides
>>7985337
with immutable proof that they're investment is solvent

fucking brainlets man

>>7985392
yes probably top 1 coin but let's try to curb our expectation

who would win
>speculative asset backed only by neetbucks and dreams
>backend token with proof of solvency with billions in assets behind it

>>7985471
This.If this token lives up to its promise it can have a larger cap than even bitcoin.

>>7985419
Would you put YOUR $1b in a bank in Switzerland? Let's not be delusional here. Millions, alright I'll give it to you, but B's hell no

>>7985611

Youre thinking too short term. Look at how much money flows through UAE banks. If even half a percent of that gets tokenized this will skyrocket.

>>7985611
Keep in mind this is literally going to be a bank whose net worth will be JNTs market cap.

>>7985611
Because billions aren't already hidden in Swiss bank accounts...

>>7985611
well it's not like they're gonna be one guy, they might get a 10 million here, a 5 million there, from various sources, if all goes well it'll add up. I don't think anyone is expecting companies or investors to put their entire networth in

!RemindMe December 31, 2018

>>7985706
That's exactly what I was going to write lol. Hopefully it works out though. It's a highly ambitious goal

>>7985644
Honestly.. I'm thinking for the one two punch on this. JNT bringing massive amounts of tokenized assets into the ETH block chain. OMG providing a giant DEX and stakers getting a cut.

All about dat polymath now you dumb faggots ketchup mustards

>>7985840
Fuck outta here with your polymath shit. Jealous nigger

>>7985840
lol notice that they deleted their partners section from thier website after getting exposed

founder is a fucking dropshipper who can't publicly name any of the 'highly profitable websites' that he founded

>>7985666

Those days are over. Banking secrecy is about dead

>>7985425
>the sheik won't tokenize anything

Literally from their telegram pinned message: "Jibrel AG signed a partnership with SEED Group (Sheikh Saeed Bin Ahmed Al Maktoum), and a Dubai, UAE entity is currently being set-up."

SEED and the Sheikh are interchangeable. SEED is basically his investment arm. Brainlet.

>>7985611

You can put it into other banks, if they partner with them. Also, we aren't expecting anyone to drop 1 billion straight next week. It's a steady process with money flowing in from multiple sides.

>>7985743

Kys

>>7985930
THat doesn't mean he's tokenizing anything you fucking mong

>>7985888
>>7985906


Take note this shit immediate fud means BUY NOW

Would some whale give some jibbies to a poor fag like me?

>>7985976

So how is he providing liquidity then? If not by creating jCash?

>>7986060
he's providing startup capital to roll out jcash

tokenizing assets is for insitutions to benefit from onchain/offchain arbitrage

just looked into this for the first time wow you guys are some dumb niggers. the price chart looks exactly as it should. slowly bleeding towards zero. I feel a little gross even posting in this thread desu.

>>7986516

thank you for your contribution. How long did you look into it, anon? Why don't you explain your findings a bit? :)

>>7985054
>SEPA transfers
>thinking eurofags matter
Kek

>>7985054
stop helping them

I got burned with my initial entry, but I want to double down as it seems to have hit the bottom. No idea what I should do

>>7983955
nice fud lol at least 100000 eoy

>>7986628

Imo, double the fuck down. I'm a holder so biased ofc.

>>7986597
They’re also working on swift transfers

>>7986655
Oh boy, might as well call it jiblink

jibrel will use chainlink to gather bank transaction and balance data

mark my words

>>7986734
I see JNT and LINK working quite nicely together

>>7986597

Jibrel does not target American market, so at least they matter more than burgers-

>>7985419
this project is basically how much do you trust talal and yazan

>>7986849

https://www.institutionalassetmanager.co.uk/2017/09/13/256020/jibrel-network-hold-first-token-sale

"Jibrel Network was founded in 2016 by Barghuthi, Victor Mezrin and Talal Tabbaa. Prior to co-founding the network, Barghuthi was a management consultant with Oliver Wyman and Deloitte, where he managed client portfolios with a combined value in excess of US$1.3 trillion. He holds a Bachelor's Degree in Chemical Engineering from University College London."

I guess I trust him.

This thread is a textbook case of organized shilling. Fuck you guys and quit shitting up our already shitty board

>>7987151
everyone is pretending to FUD though???

>>7986734
actually if you read their whitepaper they stress the problem of not being able to put external data into smart contracts

>>7986655
>swift
>>7986734

>>7984538
>being this autistic

LMAO

>>7987435
>tfw linkies and jiblets will inherent the earth
sadly I don't have any link but I think I need to buy at least a few thousand soon

>>7987548
you should, pretty much every dapp/service using smart contracts will need CL

>>7987518
haha this pic always gets me

>>7983955
6.2k jibroni checking in. Stored in cold wallet, holding for 2 years minimum

>>7987548
Feels so good to hold 20k of each. might really fucking make it boys

>>7985795
There also may be a ICX connection due to that Tapscott guy being an advisor on both and jibrel hosting a massive conference in Korea recently.

>>7987975
Again but why though? Why will this token moon?

>>7988089

>>7988251
I'm a little bit drunk and I know that saying moon is a very Pajeet phrase but everyone in all of these threads just keep saying 100-1000 EOY. I bought about 1.2 eth worth over the last three days and I just want someone to say something of substance.

>>7988089
>when moon when lambo spoonfeed me

>buy some yesterday
>it goes down after
>decide to wait a day before I buy more to see if it goes lower
>it starts going up

yeah I'm greedy

that feel when u have 81k jibs

>>7988307
I am all in on JNT but 1000 EOY is insanely optimistic. 100, maybe, but 1000 probably aint happenin

>>7988341
It won't keep going up.

>>7988377
I think it is highly likely that it will at least 2x. Because dumber ideas have 5 times the market cap. But what news are we waiting for? I'm a little confused as to why it isn't worth more already.

>>7988089
It wont. Forget you ever heard of it

>>7988433
nobody understands this project

What does this coin do besides fund terrorism? Like what actual value does it serve? Aside from being a tool for transferring funds to terrorist organizations.

>>7988472
>>7988433
is there anything at all going up in kucoin?

>>7988433
>>7988472
and those who do just think its another assets on the blockchain thing

>>7988433
So you expect a 3 week old coin to be worth near its max?lol

>>7988497
>and those who do just think its another assets on the blockchain thing

or i mean those who just hear about it think it is that. those who have done their research know.

>>7988472
Yeah I definitely don't but it says it can be used to create a way to directly invest in financial assets with them. So is there a problem with the token? Does it not do what it's supposed to do?

Most retarded shill phrases of 2018:
"Screen cap this"
"We warned you"

>>7988544
no i meant that the reason the price has gone up is that it takes a lot of research or a p strong finance background to understand its potential.

that and i think that most people are just turning a blind eye to markets outside of NA and Asia in blockchain at the moment.

The Boxmining video coming out though should be good for people to get a grasp on this project tho

>>7988619
it doesn't take ANY finance background to understand it, it's pretty straightforward with what the team explains. however with the jUSD banking initiative there still seems to be room for the scope of the project to change. things aren't etched in stone, you know what i mean.

secondly, it's still a bet that big clients will line up and do this. i have faith in the team, but most of the work will be shilling and sales

>>7983955
Another comfy day with my 380k JNT.

But i don't see the price surpassing $5 this year

>>7983955

you don't need to shill this anymore. anyone who bought has bought, and anyone who hasn't will FOMO later

news in a bear market is useless anyway. i hope the teamcan wait on releasing news when/if the full on retarded bull market comes back

>>7988768
Pretty sure they delayed the announcement BECAUSE bitcoin was going in the shitter.

>>7988687
"a lot of research" here consists of going through the whitepaper and their medium articles, maybe their posts on reddit. more than most will do.

you absolutely do not need a finance background, but it helps obviously.

in either case, most people on this board just click through links and get a cursory view of any given project. my bet is that lots of people scroll over jibrel and just see "dubai / finance assets / blockchain" and dont bother looking at the project any more than that. i mean that is the level of interaction most people have with these projects, they dont really start paying attention until the price moves.

>>7988675
this.

tfw when you can only buy 200 kebab money bc you are a poorfag.

plz help 0xc5f92d4716bbf4dbf3931ca86e3189c8e6635de4

>>7988796
Show me your 200 kebabs moneys.

I've seen so much on this coin here lately. Seems good. All in, faggots.

>>7988839
I actually have 112 kek... thought I had 200 for some reason

Lol@the coordinated effort from jibbrainlets on Telegram to shill here. Look at their telegram, they want the price to go up because of the price plumbing. You can't make this up.

Trusting a 27 year old ARAB promising you the moon. jCash. Destroying Coinbase... Jsearch Destroying Nebula. Arabs are fooling you all the way to the bank. , lol again @outsourcing devs from... Russia..

Glad I sold at 70c.

>>7988892
HE BOUGHT IN

DUMP IT

>>7988907
your fud doesn't even make any sense.
it's the secondary market, the team already got all our money in the ICO. it's only ICO holders locking in profit on others now.

>>7988932
Yep exactly like the SEED announcement to be announced mid February. Yet nothing. Another lie...

Once thing I learned in crypto and in life. When it's too good to be true than it is probably is.

>>7989042
HE SOLD IT

PUMP IT

>>7989042
you've been saying that same cheesy ass line all day just sell or get off 4chan

>>7989042
If you would be able to comprehend anything, then you would knoe that they have said mid to end feb.

Nobody cares about autistic retards like you

I finished upping my stack. Sitting at around 340K JNT.

Why do people want this coin to moon before they tokenize anything? it seems like people don't understand what they've put their money into. Just use this chance to accumulate, unless you've got little no income then this is the perfect situation: weak hands sell their bags, you pick them up for cheap.

Unless the speculation is so damn incredible that the price jumps to hundreds then it's kinda pointless for it to moon and even then having tokenization compounding the speculation price would be amazing. I don't plan to sell any of my stack before they tokenize anything unless the price hits something incredible which would allow me to retire by selling just a little bit of my stack

Fuck guys. I've only 65k JNT. I should just kms.

>>7989387
fuck you nigger, I only have 11k because I'm a poorfag. 65k is a lot, enough to make you set for life in a couple of years if you just chill.

>>7988705
I see it surpassing 5 dollars some point in april or may

>>7989188
How does it feel to be filthy rich in a few years?

>>7989611
There is virtually no chance I hold more than 30% of that past eight months much less several years.

This is a great summary for anyone who is confused by this

https://www.reddit.com/r/cryptocurrency/comments/7yhkrz/_/dugnvz1

>Talal Tabbaa We will have ETH/BTC CryDRs which will allow users to exchange them directly into jCash and other CryDRs..

>However, since we are doing this in a compliant manner, and a minimal number of exchanges follow the necessary KYC/AML procedures, we won't be doing it with crypto-exchanges to start off with.. Jibrel will provide this service, but we are open to working with exchanges who are licensed and follow the necessary procedures

Rip tether killer.

>>7989387
I've got 9k and I feel like I should kms, I want to push to 10k but I'm going to wait till tomorrow
might push to 12k if the price keeps going down, if not then I probably won't be able to without digging into savings [I did this once already even though I swore to myself I wouldn't]

but really I feel like if things go well I'll make it in 3-4 years. anywhere from 500k upwards would make me fairly happy
kinda pissed that I missed the 2017 bull run, if I made even 20k off of that I would have been a happy camper

fucking hell I cant even buy a little bit of this without mooning the price

>>7990246
I know that feel. When I bought the latest part of my stack it is what sent it from 50K to 55. I just said fuck it and bought.

>>7990254
Good move, i bought all in a few weeks back, this wasnt one i wanted to risk waiting around for to dollar cost in.

put up a buy order at .47$ im a smart man

>>7990672
i bought 30, LETS GET RICH

>>7990653
I'm probably going to buy another 30 or 40K once I get my current shit off Bibox. Assuming the price keeps stable or dropping.

>>7990776
spare me a k will ya?

>>7989387

4k here, already noosed up and ready to end it

comfy with 2500 :(

In other words please buy my bags this shit is going nowhere.
SEED partnership my ass they have fuck all, instead buy a promising coin like LINK

WHY WHY ARE YOU TRUSTING MUSLIMS
they are human garbage, all of them
you will be so disappointed, muslims are worse than jews by several orders of magnitude
t. German

>>7991705

project looks pretty legit man, it will x10 at least

token economics is solid too, none of this, oh we will just accept ETH for payment too bullshit later on

>>7983955

Volume is utter dogshit, If I drop my spare BTC on this it'll pump the price 15% just clearing the first few sell orders.

>>7991777
If it will, I'll be glad for you to be honest. But I am 99% certain you're up for a HUGE disappointment. I bet you are not from Western Europe, otherwise you would know better. Muslims ALWAYS promise a lot but they NEVER deliver. God, I just want them all to leave my beautiful country. Fucking scum.

>>7991777
TRIPS

>>7991807
Because it's mostly bots trading at this point. People are taking their shit off exchanges waiting for somewhere with more liquidity.

>>7991705
Are u going to kill yourself if muslims will make you a millioner?

>>7991822
t. Wojtek Bartosiewicz

>>7991822
Shut up racist asshole

>>7991864
You clearly have no experience with Muslims. You know about Taquiiya? In Islam, lying and cheating non-Muslims is perfectly acceptable.
>Yes kuffar, by Allah, buy my coin, guaranteed moon, alhamdullilah hahaha

>>7991889
Shut up Mohammed. Day of the rope is coming for you garbage scum.

>>7991925
But I'm a muslim, I'll ask them in arabic if it is a sczm thank you sir

>>7991925
You probably think orthodox Jews share the same views and goals as globalist Jews.

>>7991984
Yeah I am not an expert in distinguishing different sorts of shit, sorry man

>>7991925

you cant base your crypto investment decisions on what races you like and what you dont. There's enough money in UAE alone to pump this shit to 30b without breaking a sweat, you mak eenoughb money you never need to live near scummy migrants ever again and this is an extremely good value buy at 80m marketcap

>>7991777
Trips confirm
Moon incoming

$1000 EOY is the LINK meme. Fuck you unoriginal pajeets.

OP here. Didn’t expect you brainlets to intertain this thread all night.

Good discussion, $1000 EOY WE BE MOLLIONAORES FUCKAERSS

>>7986964
yup

holding my 30k ICO bags. will not sell. duno i have a good feeling that if i dont touch this - it will make me veeery happy some time this or next year.

Still plenty of time to get in

Guys, guys you might want to sit down for this.
I have a friend who works in the SEED fund, nothing too fancy, financial analyst, no lambo yet but doing well for himself. I've been pretty excited about Jibrel, so naturally I told him about it. He gets back to me yesterday, and get this: he's never even heard of jibrel. He asked around a bit and found out the sad truth.
It was the info about Jibrel's office being in SEED HQ that finally led him to a supply cabinet in the basement, with the jibrel logo printed on a sheet of paper, glued to the door. Apparently this Talal fella does work at SEED, but as a member of the cleaning staff. He is good natured but very simple. When he heard about bitcoins he got really excited, he had to go lay down so he could calm down. The IT guys took pity on him and made him his very own ERC20 token, so he could pretend to be rich. They threw a website together, filled it with generic mumbojumbo (asset tokenization, lol). Someone even spent 5 minutes in photoshop on the logo. They had some pull with palmex, so he could "trade" his little tokens over there. But it got to Talal's head and with some friends from the cleaning crew (affectionately called the "poo boys"), they have been writing jibberish and spreading misinformation online. This has got to stop, for everybody's sake. There is no big reveal coming, it is all going to turn out to be a sad misunderstanding. Get out while you can.

>>7989387
Yes, yes you should.

tfw 800k jibrel who /sultan/ here

$1000 EOY YOU HEARD IT HERE FOLKS

https://info.binance.com/ru/currencies/jibrel-network-token

>>7993563
nice try but that aint no listing

Can someone explain how Jibrel is supposed to go up?

Isn't it supposed to work like tether?

Why would the price even go up then?
Wouldn't it stay the same?

>>7993669
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7yhkrz/jibrel_network_the_potential_tether_killer/dugnvz1/

As of now, JNT will derive value in 5 different ways.

JNT is used as gas to fuel the network.

Speculation - what the market believes its value to be. This is the least important here.

CryDRs - these are one-to-one fiat tokens, backed by assets and real money. You need JNT to purchase them. They are audited by pricewatercoopers and solve all the issues with Tether.

Tokenization of assets. As more and more assets become tokenized on the Jibrel Network, as stated above, their corresponding value in JNT must be taken out of circulation. I.E. - if I tokenize $1 billion dollars worth of bonds - an equivalent $1 billion worth of JNT must be taken out of circulation.

The Jibrel DAO. In Q3, the Jibrel DAO will be launching. It will make the coin immune to massive pumps or dumps, as well as any recession. In the event a massive amount of people dump their JNT, the DAO will buy it back. In the even of a pump, the DAO will then sell off a portion of JNT to stabilize the price. You can see how this requires the DAO to have massive reserves of JNT on hand - as well as being an appeal to institutional investors who don't want to take a %10 loss in a day.

>>7993718
But when are they going to start tokenizing assets?
Won't that be a fucking year from now?
I can't wait that long.

Where do you see Jibrel in 1 month/2 months?

>>7993746
Maybe an announcement. Be patient bruh

>>7993746
It's probably not going to moon anytime soon

there are much better short term holds out there

>>7993746
I don't think anybody holding a lot of JNT is expecting a moon soon. Most people are willing to wait till Q3 or EOY to see how it goes.
I am honestly suprised there isn't more speculative interest in this now desu, if they tokenize just $50M of assets it is guaranteed returns, but I guess the concept is complicated and trust is low. We will see. Devs said announcement coming mid-end of feb, so today or tomorrow we should have something or the devs will lose some face.

>>7993804
>It's probably not going to moon anytime soon
why?

>there are much better short term holds out there
like?

>>7988085

They already said they are open for other blockchains. NEO is their first candidate though after ETH.

>>7988433

People write off the project after reading 3 sentences. It's an altcoin, so only biztards and autists know about it. Unfortunately, the people who would get it don't know about it.

The next problem is that most people here have the brains and attention spans of a goldfish, so they won't spend more than 10 seconds to research and read up on things. Due to their autism they will however spend hours to FUD a coin they do not own or do not want to buy on biz.

Only 1k someone help a brotha out.