/biz/ - Business & Finance

Where are they getting this data about C02 levels from 1000-1900?

Yes. As soon as it kills us off, the bubble will pop

>>7539314
How do I short the global warming bubble?

then drumpf is right i guess

>>7539475
A history of our atmosphere is stored in the layers of ice in Antarctica

>>7539314
Yep, still a few years before the crash though so hold off on getting your shorts in.

It will crash eventually. If that is enough to be a bubble then yes.

I think of a bubble in a slightly different way though. For me a bubble is a market in which the participants keep convincing themselves that there will be a next ATH and therefore pumping the price for an asset way beyond reasonable.

A bubble is governed by massive greed during growth and an equally big amount of fear during the burst.

People are always denying that crypto is a bubble but it is. There is no question that crypto brings value to the world but the reason for most people to buy and hodl it is because they believe that it will have a higher value in the future, which fits my definition of a bubble just fine.

Greed is an ugly thing. I am greedy myself and therefore holding cryptos but I keep reminding myself that I am in a big bubble to keep my sanity.

>>7539806
what a heart of gold you have. wow

>>7539314
That chart is fake tho.
Source - Vostok Ice Core CO2 data.

>>7539314
I love charts where they deliberately cut off the bottom and don't start from 0 one the scale to make it look more dramatic

>>7539987
Are you retarded? You just posted a chart of global temperatures (OP posted CO2 concentration in ppm) which also does not contain the last decades.

>>7539987
your chart is global temperatures
op's chart is co2 level
the absolute state of climate change deniers

>>7539314
Thanks, shorting ×100 right now

>>7540112
Global temperatures correlate with CO2 level in the atmosphere, tard. That's how you measure temperatures thousands of years back, by drilling the ice core.

>>7540098

if anything you're just proving yourself it's all bullshit

>>7539314
Chart has no temperature scale tho

>>7540152
Elaborate pls

>.5°F temp change in 200+ years

>>7540190
The whole premise of the "global warming" is that's the temperatures are rising, due to CO2 pollution by humans.
Now they are saying temperatures have nothing to do with CO2.

It's a bull trap

>>7539507
That sounds like some bullshit made up by liberals.

>>7539314
More CO2 in the atmosphere means more air for plants to breathe. This is why crop yields have been increasing exponentially worldwide. Problem?

>>7539314
is this a joke?
i hate leftists

>>7539314
As far as the meme graph goes we are in early adaptor phase. Several self reinforcing positive feed back lops have just been activated. With the remade of carbon stored in permafrost and shallow sea methane hydrates the party has just begun, carbon levels and temps to the .

>>7540149
chart only goes to 1950, zoom out retard

>>7540314
Release not remade

>>7540313
nigga400 ppm is all that's needed to geek the earth, you asswiping brainlet

>>7540257
Yeah just like all of (((science))) save phrenology.

>>7540222
That why you should refer to it as climate change. Rising of the global temperature is just one of many processes going on.

Why do you put ice cubes in your drink? Because they keep the drink at constant cool temperature until they are gone. What do you think will happen if the ice on the poles is gone?

>>7539987
Do you still think that there is no temperature increase?

>>7540350
[citation needed]

>>7539314

Yes it’s going to crash hard when all the humans die.

>>7540371
How much (as a %) of the medievil warm period was due to man made CO2?

>>7540453
None. Fluctuations are normal. An exponential growth on the other hand is not.

>>7539314
Natural cycle caused by sun output. Changes in climate can be observed on all planets in the solar system

>>7540371
Nice to hear some one talk about the arctic ice. It's a big deal. There is good evidence to suggest we will be ice free for parts of the year by five years, this is really going to fuck with the planet, especially if all the methane hydrates get released.

>>7540257
It's actually some pretty interesting stuff. The ice in Antarctica doesn't melt, it just builds up layers year after year, each layer completely untouched or modified until we retrieve samples. Those ice layers hold a lot of information, giving us a snapshot of what the planet was like during that time.

Firstly there's the stuff that gets trapped inside of the ice, such as CO2 and other gasses. Then we can even look at the crystalline structure of the ice itself, since its structure varies a lot with temperature.

>>7540190

You acknowledge that global temperatures are still lower than they were before by correcting him on the second chart, yet you acknowledge co2 levels are rising sharply according to OPs chart. If we've hit co2 levels unprecedented to any time before - wouldn't global temperature be setting records?

I'll just leave this here

http://cci-reanalyzer.org/wx/DailySummary/#t2anom

If climate change is real and will destroy civilization, then the only solution is becoming a doomsday prepper. Nothing is going to change as the current paradigm in the world is GDP growth, and GDP growth is directly linked to energy consumption which is still overwhelmingly fossil fuel generated. Western nations have begun mass population replacement schemes due to low birth rates of the native population in order to keep GDP growth high . Because the banking system needs growth to pay the debt principal + interest, the entire system is a ponzi scheme.

>>7540477
Now tell me (as a %) how much of the current temperature fluctuation is caused by man made CO2.

>>7540569
Global average temperatures have been setting records, we have had something like 7 out of the ten hottest years the last decade with 2016 being the hottest on record. 2017 was the hottest year without an el nino.

>>7540503
The greenhouse effect is the reason why Earth is heating up.

Humans caused the greenhouse effect.

Human contribution to climate change is proven through the massive amounts of fossil-fuel-based carbon in the atmosphere.

>>7540569
I do not acknowledge that global temperatures are lower than they were before. Look at the chart. His chart is missing the 20st century.

>>7540257
Nope, in fact the air does interact with the ground, the water, and with ice sheets. Ice sheets provide a great measurement of climate conditions over time because they rarely interact with any other external forces or weathering.

>>7540149
ummm, ice cores aren't the only proxies for past temperatures tho

>>7540626
>uses 1979-2000 as a base, "ideal" temp.
Why?

>>7540689

http://www.longrangeweather.com/global_temperatures.htm

So why was it so hot back then? oonga boonga rock mobile emissions. weather is a cycle, we are in one now. the amount of natural co2 emitted from nature alone is so vast our impact is literally who levels

>>7540679
Sure.

Carbon in carbon dioxide takes place in three isotopes: C12, C13, C14.

C14 is radioactive. It is the isotope measured in carbon dating (uses half life of C14 to measure age).

Our atmosphere's radioactivity (proportion of atmosphere that is C14) has rapidly declined since the industrial era.

This is because the Carbon released by burning fossil fuels does not contain C14.

Fossil fuels are organic material dead for hundreds of thousands of years, meaning most of the C14 has since decayed.

Open for any questions

>global warming
>more water evaporated from the oceans
>bigger and stronger storms
water level wont rise per say but were going to have more disasters

>>7539314
>invested in 1600s
>sold in 1900s

>>7540789
It's vast, but you're severely underestimating human output.

We can be reasonably sure the increase in CO2 over the last century or two is primarily human driven. For one, no known natural source corresponds with the increase we've been seeing. Volcanoes and whatnot aren't enough to account for it.

Two, CO2 released through human processes has a different ratio of carbon isotopes than natural CO2. See this guy >>7540826

>>7540371
Did you ever ask yourself why do these always go down no further than 1880? Because there was an ice age in the 19th century and the middle ages were even warmer than our current temperatures, tardo.
Greenaland was green only a few centuries ago, tardo. We are going back to normal temperatures now.

>>7540826

So what are you trying to say exactly?

did someone mention i-ice?

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

INVEST NOW GLOBAL TEMPERATURE IS MOONING

>>7540257
>thinks science is political
my sides

>>7540789
> weather is a cycle, we are in one now.
it's to fast for being a natural one. also even if it's a natural one we should find a way to stop it anyway.

>>7540896

>we should try and control nature anyways

lmao

If our planet was meant to die I'd rather just let it, pretty shit planet desu

>>7540869
If the atmosphere has lower radioactivity, it has a lower proportion of C14.

The only feasible thing that could have caused a massive reduction in C14 in the atmosphere is mass human burning of fossil fuels.

There are literally no other sources of carbon dioxide that don't have C14. Burning trees, decaying plants, volcanoes, etc. etc. all emit C14. Fossil fuels are the only thing I know that do not.

>>7540869
If changes in atmospheric CO2 were natural, we would expect the ratio of C14 to C12 to remain the same.

If a CO2 increase was primarily human driven, we would expect to see this ratio change, because humans mainly burn C12 over other isotopes.

We are in fact seeing such an increase of C12.

>>7540941

and is C14 good or bad

Shit nigga what about all that methane?

>>7540371
This guy has a great you tube channel discussing the arctic sea ice and other climate change related subjects.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRjxE9upk9g&t=528s

An interesting note about ice. If you apply x amount of energy to melt y amount of ice,
using x amount of energy to hear water just above freezing will heat y amount of ice to 78 degrees centigrade.
Once the arctic sea ice is gone the oceans are going to heat up extremely fast, completely changing the weather patterns on earth. At this point things are so out of control it is not really even worrying about, people who deny this is happening and are under 50 are going to see this shit play out within there lives, it is going to get ugly.

>>7540826
Again, what percentage of current warming is mankind responsible for ... a ballpark will do if you have no scientific evidence.

>>7541003
It's almost entirely human driven. Or, if humans did not exist we would not be seeing the warming we are currently seeing.

>>7540840
water volume expands as it gets warmer.

>>7540935
>better just accept extintion
lul
also irrelevant since it's largely man caused

>>7540840
youre forgetting

>more clouds

water vapor is a strong green house gas but cloud coverage is what prevents this planet from run away global warming

>>7540867

You can read a report here:
http://www.climatechange2013.org/images/report/WG1AR5_TS_FINAL.pdf

"It is extremely likely that human activities caused more than half of the
observed increase in global average surface temperature from 1951 to
2010."

The required data for this statement is also included in the file. Have fun.

>>7540889
half of right wingers don't believe in climate change because bible says only god can change the weather and the other half believe it but don't care because atlas shrugged says government shouldn't regulate anything

>>7539489
I’m pretty sure there are weather certificates, like Futures. Not even joking.

>>7541155
They have probably never read about "Operation Popeye". kek

>>7541115
If it's man-caused, wouldn't it be sensible to kill all the niggers, arabs and pajeets, since they constitute the majority of the world population, yet contribute nothing of value?
Killing 5 billions of the vermin with biological weapons would solve all the world problems.

>>7541151
>climatechange2013
>unironically posting Al Gore funded website
Opinion discarded

>>7541151
>There is only medium to low confidence in the rate of change of
tropospheric warming and its vertical structure. Estimates of tropospheric
warming rates encompass surface temperature warming
rate estimates. There is low confidence in the rate and vertical
structure of the stratospheric cooling. {2.4.4}

wow great stuff you are posting here

>>7541151
Here's the 2017 version: https://science2017.globalchange.gov/

wordy but still very readable, with plenty of citations

>>7541155
I believe in it desu I just don't give a shit. We're not powerful enough to kill the earth, just enough to kill ourselves. Have you seen the state of society lately? It won't get better, we don't deserve to become an interstellar species.

>>7541017
So .. like 100%. >>7541155
Half of right winger dont believe in climate change cause they already have a religion.

Global warming/climate change denial is a psy op funded by big oil companies like exxon mobile and royal dutch shell That's why english speaking countries are the only ones where climate change is a 'political issue'. In any other country both the right and left wing ideologies agree that it exists.

4chan is compromised by corporate shills who have a vested interest in protecting corporate interests. There's more money in paying people to deny climate change than there is to make up the concept.

t. /x/

>>7541223
yes that is a solution even though is unapplicable in the current political climate of democracy and human right.
Nevertheless it will happen if we don't change the trend

>2018
>there are still climate change denier left

What I hate most of the whole thing isn't even the deniers, it's the weak-willed "scientists" and "activists" themselves. Everyone seem content to ignore the biggest fucking elephant in the room, which is population growth. You can talk about cutting CO2 emissions all you want, but it won't matter when the human population is not projected to flat out until 2100. Way too late by then. But no, talking about that will hurt people's feelings.
Even if we sterilised 80% of the population right now its still probably too late. Short of a mass global culling I don't really see any options to stop climate change.

>>7539314
Plants are booming like crazy and gonna crash CO2 market. Start shorting once the trend's rate of change crosses under zero.

>>7541249
keke

>>7541249
"The IPCC receives funding through the IPCC Trust Fund, established in 1989 by the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) and the World Meteorological Organization (WMO), Costs of the Secretary and of housing the secretariat are provided by the WMO, while UNEP meets the cost of the Depute Secretary."

It is UN funded.

It wont matter what I say, you will always find a reason not to change your views.

Do you have any evidence supporting the view that climate change is NOT man made?

>>7541326
Nice brainwashing you got there.

Well, it doesn't even matter if climate change is real and human-driven. It's all about money-eating in the end.

>>7541362
>Short of a mass global culling I don't really see any options to stop climate change.
Anyone following the rapid development of CRISPR technology knows this is what will happen whether we like it or not. Either we engineer a virus that culls on our terms or rogue states like NK eventually gain the capability to engineer one on their terms. People can buy proof of concept kits that engineer E.Coli to become penicillin resistant. Pandora's box has already been opened and nobody is paying attention.

>>7540869
that with less radiation in our atmosphere more cosmic rays are bombarding earth, making the ice melt

>>7541425
Get your head out of the ass and follow the money. Oil is a trillion dollar industry and oil companies have already been caught with their hands down their pants multiple times funding denial and anti-nuclear activists.

They are the global elite. They don't give a fuck if what they're doing will kill your children. They'll be dead before they have to suffer the consequences.

>>7539314
>Is global warming a bubble?
extend that graph out to 750 million years to see why Global Warming is a bubble. It's about to burst. I call it within the next millenium.

>>7541365
((We)) aren't, but the next generations are going to enjoy One Piece earth where everything is the Bahamas and plants grow the size of buildings, and there might even be dinosaurs or at-least giant fish

>>7541469
>caring about children
It's too late.

We fucked up big this time...

>>7540257

Hey man, this literally has nothing to do with being a “Chad”. This is a stand up guy doing stand up things.

Also stop using that word. It’s so stupid and so immature.

You want to be the kind of person where people ask if you’re single? Start with dropping words like “Chad” or “incel” or “cuck” or “pede”. Stop living your life like it’s a meme. I guarantee you this guy doesn’t label people into memes like you just did.

Start right now. Better yourself right now.

Do this for a year and report back. I bet your world perspective will have changed, and we’ll be upvoting your tweet about helping others. Hopefully we’ll also be upvoting your post in /r/happy about how you turned your life around and found someone.

Or stay on the path you’re on and see where that takes you.

>>7540257

>>7541480
This. Is there more zoomed-out chart?

>>7539314
biz as usual

>>7541374
>proving a negative
I'll provide evidence that catastrophic global warming is NOT man made (or happening) if you prove that God does NOT exist.

>>7539314
go to /pol/ faggot.

Geologist here.
Good thread bizrealis.
((Climate Change)) is lots of fun for us scientists. All kinds of good stuff to study. Easy too. Very quantifiable.

Keep buying up all that gas, fly those planes, ship stuff around the earths oceans. I do not give a fuck. I have my land and my bunker. I suggest you make an exit stragey.

>>7539987
lots of support around 0, man made carbon emissions might be just the thing to push CO2 out of its downward momentum, expect a spike to 0.8 then a 72% retrack to 0.2

The question is: how do we short it?

>>7539314
your IQ is a bubble and it obviously bursted

>>7541597
Wait hold on for a minute. I think you are confusing something here.

God is not a concept of science since it is fundamentally unprovable.

This is not true for the other statement. Imagine finding a place with higher than usual radiation. You now claim that it is not man made and start digging. Eventually you find an Uranium-oxide deposit. It is proven that the radiation is not man made. This is not proving a negative.

If you would find out for example that there is proportionally higher solar activity than usually that causes the climate change that would be one piece of evidence.

>>7541675
Engineering student here. How long do I have? I need to wait until I get my degree and for my bags to get big before I can cash out and invest in land and a bunker. What nations should I be looking at?

so many of the global warming comments here show how uneducated some of you are. here's the truth: earth is in a natural heating cycle, but humans are undoubtedly aggravating this cycle. At some points during earth's history, there were jungles near the polar caps cause of how hot the earth was, so a warming earth isn't "unnatural" per se. However, it is clear from looking at the data that humans, namely industrial activity, has caused this process to speed up much more than it normally would. Pic related is our ice caps, clearly that much ice shrinkage in 30ish years is way too fast.

Now on to the dangers, the more ice that melts at the caps, the greater the sea level rises. This will not be a big deal, until it's suddenly a disaster. Most of humanity's greatest cities are coastal, and a lot of them could be underwater/flooded if the trend doesn't reverse. Also, even though the earth is warming, some places on earth would actually become much colder for example europe. Europe is kept much warmer by the gulf stream, which brings up hot air from the equator, but if it gets hot enough, this stream of air would break, and europe would become an alaska-tier frozen shithole without that flow of warm air.

>>7541223
wtf is wrong with you. a supervirus would drop you dead just as much as a black man, it isn't going to stop because you have less melanin you retard

>>7541523
this is a really bad mentality. our legacy is our children who will populate the earth. We should leave behind a better planet

>>7541480
we crashed at the previous low and been consolidating at the bottom for a million years. we are going up again since support at 10 degrees held

>>7541757

forgot to add pic

>>7541728
in our lifetimes most likely the effects won't be that big, but a couple centuries down the line, if we don't stop dumping these ridiculous amounts of pollutants and emissions into the air, it will cause huge changes to earth as we know it

>>7541779
as an $EARTH hodler since genesis, this is good news to me

>>7541728
You have time.
Just like any crash it takes a while for the bubble to pop.
Dont fret too hard about it, but do keep it in mind when your looking inti buying land. Places that get hot will get hotter. Cold colder. Mild, likely will stay mild. Canada, as much as I hate the people, is an excellent choice. Northern Europe is a nice bet.
I like Estonia.

>>7541779

kek TA fags. just like in stocks/crypto, sudden news like mt gox or govt regulation (for earth, like humans suddenly dumping more emissions into the atmosphere) overrides TA. we are in a stage of time in earth's history where "TA" doesn't apply due to unforeseen activities

>>7541374

kek, and the fact that it's UN funded is supposed to help your case? The IPCC is the most biased research organization in existence and doesn't welcome dissenting opinions of any kind - literally the leddit of climate research.

There is ample evidence FOR man-made global warming, but there are also firm arguments against it. 99% of scientists don't agree, more like 60%, it's far from settled science and I wish people would just see that instead of pretending we already know anything.

The IPCC literally exists to create evidence for governments to justify carbon tax credits.

>>7541856
Hmmmmmmmmmm
Wonder what new disruprtive technogy could be cominging into its own in the next decade?
That uses lots of power and is possibly worth quite a lot...

>>7541861
Now, the 99% dont agree thing I must take issue with.

We all agree.

>>7541861
>The IPCC literally exists to create evidence for governments to justify carbon tax credits.

This is nothing more than an assumption. I could say the same thing about the NATO.

"The NATO only exists so that Lockheed martin can sell more datalink systems."

>>7539314
>>7540896
Hate to tell you anon but at this point there is really nothing that we can do. We are so fucked.
First of all this anon >>7540653 has it right
>>Because the banking system needs growth to pay the debt principal + interest, the entire system is a ponzi scheme.
So the system can not stop growing and increasing co2 out put with out complete collapse.
Inb4 Green energy/technology. does not work to scale and still requires huge amounts of hydrocarbon energy to produce/maintain.

However if industrial civilization where to collapse and the industries that created pollution and co2 stopped polluting you would have an effected call global dimming, or global dimming would stop and the planet would heat up by a very few degrees withing a short amount of time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_dimming

The permafrost is starting to thaw and release the trapped co2 and methane. There is twice as much carbon in the permafrost then there is in the whole atmosphere, as the arctic sea ice melts there is the possibility of a enormous release of methane from the shallow sea from the methane hydrates.


>>7541533
this guy gets it.

Doomer Fud is best Fud

>>7541861
The only real argument I've seen against purposefully pumping our climate with CO2 is "lol we shouldn't do things to our climate we don't understand"

>>7541984
Oh oh the permafrost is really fun!
Lots of mercury in there too. Like, a whole lot more than expected.

>>7541921
That's probably a true statement

>>7542004

imagine being this much of a brainlet. CO2 is a greenhouse gas, greenhouse gasses aren't necessarily "bad" since they insulate earth and keep it warm, but too much of it makes it way hotter than we would like.

>>7540149
>Drill ice, inspect ice, ???, Carbon tax!

That's pseudo science my man

>>7542057
Thankfully my robo-loli body is immune to such things.

>>7542079
>If in doubt, appeal to authority

>>7542109
Shit I aint havin no kids.
Fuck do I care.
Normies btfo though

>>7541722
The burden of proof is on the person making the claim. Simply saying i should should prove your theory false, of which keeps changing every year (oceans as a heat sink for eaxmple) and models have proved woefully inaccurate, as a way of proving it correct is absurd.

>>7541801
If we really do have a couple centuries like you say I’m pretty sure we can figure it out by then, hopefully. Not saying we shouldn’t be working on a solution now ofc

>>7541801
i call bullshit on that pic
if the northwest passage is open, then why aren't shipping routes going through there in the summer?

>>7542057
just heard about that need red pilling

>>7541921

m8 the entire organization is funded purely by governments with interest in proving man-made global warming, there are actual scientists who spoke out against the organization and its overzealous nature in biased research.

cmon now nigger, you gotta think a little bit here

>>7539314
No, it's just a meme

>>7542261
Well I do not have any papers to link or anything, but word on the street is that for some evil unknown reason mercury has pooled under the permafrost. Something to do with the earths natural filters (peat moss, permafrost, etc).
The short of it is that when the permafrost melts, the gas is bad. The flood of mercury into the atm and of course ocean will be catastrophic in terms of higher level organism reproduction.

don't care because western governments have shown they're more interested in taxing civilian behavior as a revenue stream than targeting the actual sources of mass pollution worldwide, so fuck them all

>>7540257
now this is some good bait. will keep in mind for future posts.

>>7542476
/thread

>>7542417

THIS!!!

>there are actual scientists who spoke out against the organization and its overzealous nature in biased research.

Could you send me reports on this? I really wanna BTFO my friend doing a phd in biology

>>7542573
Your "friend" is going to think you are a dumbass if you come at them with this.

>>7542471
Thanks Anon, just checked the channel of my fav doomsday prophet of the end times and he was talking about that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djUxwY5eKOw

>>7542258
>>then why aren't shipping routes going through there in the summer

Have no clue why they are not going now, probably liability, soon enough ships will be able to sail through the passage.

If you care to learn more check out this guys channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSXz-dTGVvI

>>7540889
german scientists determined jews were subhuman.

>>7539450
nice

>>7540077
Also changing data sources right before the spike they want to draw attention to is pretty funny shit too. And yet people will still be convinced by this shit.

>>7542130
>>Trying to point out logical fallacy
>>Using straw man

We're still in a motherfucking ice age you fucking retards, come back to us in a few centuries when we get 25% less ice.

>>7540697
>Human contribution to climate change is proven through the massive amounts of fossil-fuel-based carbon in the atmosphere.
Many animals far outproduce humans by factors of 1-10x for contribution to atmospheric CO2. Termites is the most I think, at around 10 times the output annually of all fossil fuels. Anthropogenic CO2 is roughly 4% of total.

Also, warming precedes atmospheric CO2 rise, it doesn't follow it. The oceans are the storage of the vast proportion of CO2 on the planet and also contribute to atmospheric CO2 changes far more than anything else. A warmer ocean will release more and a cooler one will release less.

Oh and it doesn't even truly matter much what goes on actually on the planet usually because solar wind and interactions with the planet predominantly determine what the fuck goes on with our climate and this is literally never acknowledged by people who lecture about global warming or climate change.

But yeah keep blaming the tiny amount of anthropogenic CO2 for what's happening instead of everything else that utterly dwarfs it. The fraudulent IPCC and climate science industry who edit and adjust data sets and measurements and amend scientific documents prior to publishing agree with you so you must be right. :^)

>>7539314
It'll pop when human population extinct

Why should i believe scientists who have been literally FUCKING CAUGHT fabricating and tailoring data to their agenda instead of letting the data speak for itself?

>>7539314
Yes and no. Our atmosphere is warming, but the fluctuations can be impacted by an even greater degree by particulate matter in the atmosphere (as caused by a large volcano or asteroid impact) or by solar activity.
We are expected to have a decrease in in the acceleration of global warming due to the sun reaching minimal activity.
We could also easily control the temperature of our planet by dropping a nuke into a volcano and shooting particulate matter into the atmosphere. Nobody wants to do this though because they would rather overreact to something as insignificant as global warming than do something about it.
Global warming will also address itself on its own as we gradually run out of fuels to burn or make them ourselves from crops/algae/bacteria/wood since fuel will then be a renewable resource.

>>7543544
Thats all priced in guy

>>7542573

I got that fact from the book "Climate Change: The Facts". Good read to BTFO the usual talking points from these fags.

Not sure if any of these bros are in the book, but yeah

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming#Scientists_questioning_the_accuracy_of_IPCC_climate_projections

>>7539314
yes its not sustainable.
better get your coats its about to get real cold

>>7540889
>claims he believes in science

>denies that populations reproductively isolated for hundreds of thousands of years in completely different environments have evolved with different intelligence and behaviours

>>7539314
Yes, because it's not backed by anything. Like science for example

>>7540962
Not sure about that but poster is saying the lower amount of C14 indicates carbon levels are human caused, as fossil fuels don't have C14.

Thanks bought 100K gas canisters of O2

In the future everyone will need masks to go outside.

>>7545558
source for hundreds of thousands of years? Humans first arrived in North America about 15~ thousand years ago and modern humans evolved out of Africa about 50~ thousand years ago giving us a difference of 35 ~ thousand years which is not nearly enough for significant evolutionary changes especially without strong environmental pressure to evolve which humans rarely faced since they were the apex predator in any environment they inhabited. Also your post assumes higher intelligence was selected for in modern humans which is a pretty large leap of knowledge to make.

>>7546681
https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/hart_-_understanding_human_history-1.pdf

>>7546808
Uhh the entire book? How about you source me some pages or a chapter specifically about the intelligence bit not interested in behavior bit since thats more cultural than genetic.

>>7539314
We're in the early adopter phase pham

>>7539314
>global warming turn out to be real
>its effect will be felt by us in 100 years

I will be dead by then, tell me why should I care?

>>7539314
this fud is getting so ridiculous
keep it coming tho, i just bought another 100k

>>7541308
>We're not powerful enough to kill the earth, just enough to kill ourselves

No shit, dumbass lmao. The earth will be fine but every living thing on the planet is going to have a tough time. The Middle East will probably be the most affected by climate change, in fact its already affecting some farmers. Wanna guess where those Middle Easterners will want to migrate to? Yeah you guessed it, Europe but our (((right wing))) saviors want to keep suppressing that fact because science goes against their jewish religions