/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>6676087
Bought, check on me in a month

>>6676087
Bought in lets see where this goes

New to crypto, where to buy?

>>6677013
Kucoin listed this the other day

>>6677050

Like i'm really new, Just set up coinbase. do I transfer say for example ETH I bought on coinbase to kucoin and buy telcoin then?

I need a rundown on how everything works

>>6677145
>rundown

>>6676943
See you on 02/19/18
How do you see the price by then?

How much do I need to make it?

i actually bought 1 mil this morning when i saw it on kucoin. this shit is going to 5-10 cents easy. easy

>>6677145

Step 1. Buy ETH on coinbase
Step 2. Create account on Kucoin, go to deposits, generate address for ETH and copy that address.
Step 3. Go back to Coinbase -> Accounts and Send that to the Kucoin ETH address.
Step 4. Wait for an hour or so and check your balance in Kucoin.
Step 5. Once its transferred, buy Telcoin or any other coin that you want.

>>6677013
Yes, pretty much what you said. Transfer from coinbase to your kucoin ETH wallet and buy through the exchange.

>>6677291
>5-10 cents easy. easy

Don't think so. Perhaps 2-3 cents

>>6677305

And then in the future say if TEL skyrockets and I make bank can I sell it and buy ETH and transfer it back to coinbase?

Why are people being so helpful on biz? Weird. Bought 60k yesterday. Would be nice to see even a 2x return on something costing 60 sats (when I bought in) desu

Telcoin will do what XRP wants to do simply through the power of Yakuza cartel banking connections.
Banking isn't about the fastest tx product, since SWIFT has still be in place, and it's 2018. It's about who you know, and what you can do.
Naka-Chan not only has connections to the Yakuza, he's also hooked in with the west's Internationalist Bankers.
$1.00 TEL EOY. (Conservative)

>>6677354
i have made over 400k in crypto from $13,300 initial investment, i feel i owe it to the newbs who may have made foolish decisions from this most recent "crash"

>>6677347
Yes, when you will want to transfer to your bank, you can sell it on kucoin for ETH/Bitcoin/Litecoin and send it back to Coinbase and from there you can transfer to your bank by converting it to fiat.

>>6677291
bought 120k. Riding on your back

>>6677439
>bought 120k.

nice, i just got 25k, not much i know

>>6677436

Whats this ive heard about kucoin having issues lately though? there was a thread about it I think its still up, someone said theyre insolvent

>>6677464
>there was a thread

Not everything written here is true. Kucoin is quite decent exchange after Binance. I don't think there's anything to worry.

>>6677464
Could be FUD or could be legit who knows with biz. They've closed their referral program probably due to difficulty keeping up with the spike in users

Second quarter this token will moon, right now they can’t make public which companies are testing they can only make public interested companies but once companies implement their payment system it will be public and telcoin will go intergalactic.
CEO is an insider of the market and already rich, do your research and you will know how easy it is for this company for get big, no other company offering what they offer and they’re not threatening mobile services providers instead they’re a tool for them to make more money.
Easy x10 form here, but who knows how far this can go

>>6677524
>>6677538

So do I have to give them my ID, upload photos etc. i'm worried these chinks are gonna steal my Identity.

Since we're helping noobs itt isn't it hard to keep track of whether you are making money off alt coins since not only do you have to keep track of the alt to btc(in my case) but also the value of btc to usd?

>>6677588
None. You should just use a protonmail and 2fa.

>>6677676
Blockfolio or any crypto tracker app. Add your transaction at the market exchange rate for BTC at the time if you're trying to track in fiat.

>>6677676
If its listed on an app like Delta or Blockfolio then ezpz

>>6677464

Kucoin is doing everything they can to push NEO

they openly tell you to sell your ETH for NEO to withdraw faster

FUCK KUCOIN

oh yeah, TEL is good coin to get into

>>6677676

Just compare with BTC/ETH, dont look at the US$

>>6677737

Where do I buy TEL if not kucoin?

>>6677766

EtherDelta or IDEX

>>6677711
>>6677716
I only have binance. Is there a way to link the account to those apps?
>>6677757
What concerns me is if I'm waiting for an alt to go from 50 to 100 and it does but the price of Bitcoin fell then even though the alt rose I would still be losing money on the conversion though right since the price of Bitcoin fell?

>>6677766
etherdelta and idex, recommend idex personally but there is a limit, $150 to deposit i think.

>>6677841
Then you count in sats instead of USD. For example if you bought at 60 sats you've profited if you sell it higher than 60 sats whatever the usd value is.

LOL the telcoin telegram now has almost 14k members :

t.me/telcoincommunity

this shit is going to blow up real quick

>>6677873
Binance doesn't seem to keep track of that and I don't even remember what the price of btcwas when I bought the coins.

>>6677921
And they're all LAMBO KIDS.
This is going to get hyped hard, which is hilarious.
Between the team and the hype, this could be the biggest moon mission of the first half of 2018.

what are your guys price predictions for next week?

>>6677992
>first half of 2018.

where do you see the price?

>>6677453
Depending how long you are willing to hold that could turn into a pretty penny

>>6677996
0.01$

>>6678022
Conservatively 1 USD EOY if the 2 banks they have sign on.
5 USD if SoftBank jumps on.

>>6677957
Look up your order history. It's all there.

>>6678075
Where did you hear of bank partnerships? Link?

nice. just bought 400K.

>>6678141
A few weeks ago in their Telegram, and Naka-Chan
>>6676087
>https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/people/person.asp?personId=273742639&capId=28827721&previousCapId=28827721&previousTitle=istyle%20Inc..

>tfw can't buy any until tomorrow because bank is being a retard and just set up a coinbase.

Am I screwed guys. or will tomorrow still be good?

>>6678319
>bank is being a retard and just set up a coinbase.

why not use credit card?

>>6678319
Just wait for a nice trended dip, especially while we're in this down market. The coin should really move once the partnerships solidify.
Also remember this is Japanese based, and Japan has good regs for Crypto, unlike China or Korea, where news is moving coins all over as government sends mixed messages.

>>6678372

My bank isn't letting me Add my card to coinbase and Its past business hours. My Bank is set up but takes 3-5 business days to add USD that way.

This thing is going to be ridiculous in the next few months

>>6678319
Should be ok until the 23rd, kucoin has a whale promo.

>>6678319
You'll be alright, huge sell walls at 0.000007 and 0.000008, doesn't look like those will get eaten just yet

>>6678195
Cool. Hopefully they get it

>>6678590

Can you explain sell walls to me?

>>6678663
JESUS fuck this reddit crowd is awful

>>6678663
Those are unfilled orders. You can set a price you want to sell/buy at, and it'll execute if it reaches that price. Big green walls is expecting to be able to pick up the coin cheap on a dip. Big red walls to sell at a runup.
As they are, they're to scare off large buys, but the smart thing to do is look at them as potential.
Current price is .00000060 sats.
Furthest sell order is .0000055 sats.
Even whales are optimistic on these walls getting btfo'd and them 10x'ing while they sleep.

I bought in. I’m putting my faith in you, biz.

Fuck my life I bought at .000007 ETH instead of 6 am I fucked /biz/

>>6676087
This coin could go up to $1 in the long run if bank partnerships go through, I'm gonna accumulate more at the dip, have good feeling about this.

>>6678802
you should do your own research on the coin too, it is your own money.

>>6678857
what dip? isn't this ground floor?

>>6678917
You should always put buy orders below the asking price.

>>6678917
Some of us got in at $0.00086213 on the ICO.
This has all the metrics of a good hype coin + actual fundamentals.
China is a black box, hence why Tron was a crapshoot, still got hyped to retarded heights.
Japan is not.
Canya's telegram is locked down, no hype building, the wales killed themselves on Ku.
Telcoin's telegram is beyond hype. It'll spiral, I assume this month we'll have a nice moon, then a lul, then a longer term build up, until this is getting talked about on CNBC because of the Softbank / HSBC partnerships.

>>6678995
Oh I know, but do you think this is going to go down to 55 sats and below?

>>6679031
Oh I already researched and bought some of this coin, I just want to buy 100k more, do you think this is going to drop in price a little more maybe 55 sats?

>100 billion supply
im good

>>6679092
probably when the europoors wake up in the next 2-3 hours. Just set some buy orders down low.

>>6679031
agree, but it also has the makings of a perfect pump and dump coin too at the moment, especially since it just hit kucoin

>>6679053
Buy some at the current price so you don't miss out and put some buy orders below asking price in case it dips, thus cost averaging.

ceo is a black dude, sell asap

>>6679118
Fucking lol. You still live in 2017?
>XRP will never be 1$!!!

This means nothing. Research the coin and if you still think it's not good, you're a retard.

>>6679162
Who are the people who were chasing Trevon James and pumping Tron?

I am aware this is in the middle of a massive pump. I am aware I might be feeling FOMO pangs.

However, it has not reached the 'buy up to' price in latest palm beach confidential

https://www.docdroid.net/1yULwYE/2-5406824154433323409.pdf

This seems compelling. The team does seem good, they have an actual app that works. The coin AFAIK does not have any use-case except to grow in value as you 'stake' it for use of the bot.

From my research the tier 1 bot is basically useless. If you cannot purchase tier 2 or above don't expect to use the info. The token, however, will likely grow in value as institutions become more interested in the research group.

What are your thoughts?

tl;dr: hold coin for access to research group algorithmic and community polling results about coin performance

>>6679162
>ceo is a black dude,

Be honest is this a 10x

Where do you think it will be in a month, three, a year?

No one has a problem with the market cap and circulating amd total supply??

>visit the telegram group
>people unironically believe this coin will reach $100
>people in the telegram shilling Ripple and Stellar
I can't handle Normans m8s I dunno about this coin

>>6679674
>a year
Dead.

>>6679162

in this case it doesn't matter

TEL has access to a $500 bln global market

>>6679819
>this level of shilling
already reminds me of DBC and we all know how that turned out

>>6679852
XRP mooned into WU maybe trying them out.
TEL has Telco and Bankers all over it.
The hype is just an added bonus.

>>6679852

so the ceo being black is a reason for failure?

>>6680008
/pol/ comes to /biz/

>>6679852
it moons and a bunch of retards that FOMO instead of getting bags early become bagholders trying to shill DBC with Braingang memes but it should be pink Wojaks.

I bought DBC at 11-12 cents and sold all my bag at an ATH, I bought BNTY at 0.08 cents and sold at an ATH. Dont be left behind dont get stuck with bags.

Not trying to FUD because I already bought but I'm worried this will go the way of CanYa. I bought at $4.8 when it was releasef on KuCoin and then got rekt, how is this coin different? Bought at 6

>>6680744
Canya's bench is shallow, they have locked down their telegram, and sticker price of the coin too high for normans.

This is feeling like an ICO PBD. Ain't touching this shit yet

the ceo is black?

>>6680744
Plus, what good news is coming out of the Canya team right now besides "HODL CLUB xD"
https://twitter.com/TackPoremba/status/954271642821181440

This will definitely be pumped and we can all gets some nice gains. But let's be honest, the fundamentals are total shit. Vodafone have been pushing out all crypto related businesses pushing into the remittance market. They have the monopoly over regions like SSA and there is absolutely no need for them to buy Telcoin. Until there are proper competitors for POS remittance Telcoin will be thrown into the pile of other coins that just don't seem to do much.

>>6678746
god forbid we get some new people.

>>6676087
>check team page
>DIVERSITY ceo
Into the trash it goes

>>6679158
indeed this, also sets up resistance so we dont freefall to the bottom. most cant do this though it locks alot of your base coin up

>>6680993
You need to go back faggot

>>6681038
iv been on 4chan for almost 7years Im just past all the shit reddit lel memes.

>>6678820
Nah, just don't panic if the price suddenly crashes like some of the retards last night.

>>6681023
>smart anon

>send neo from binance to cuckoin
>transfer shows it as completed but my funds still aren't in

>>6681567
did you convert NEO to the base pair?

>>6681612
Brainlet here, what does this mean? I've transferred NEO like this just fine before

Some serious pajeets in the telegram group, if you're in i'd gtfo as soon as it moves

How much is everyone in?

I went safe at 20k tel, might get more. 200 bucks is nothing but fomo is hitting me rn

>>6681644
are you trying to trade TEL/BTC or TEL/ETH?
Convert NEO to either BTC or ETH.

>>6681753
IT STILL HASN'T EVEN SHOWED UP IN MY WALLET

THE TXID FROM BINANCE SAYS IT COMPLETED

KUCOIN SHOWS ME NOTHING

NEO IS USUALLY FASTER THAN THIS

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>6681712
Why is everyone like this? Just sell half when it reaches 2x your investment. Let the rest ride it out. There, you just took out ALL the risk. Free money from there.

>>6681845
Because every other person in crypto has weak hands and nervous bowels.

>>6681878
Really boggle the mind. It's so easy to make money in crypto but I find it hysterical that it's even easier for some morons to LOSE money. I guess greedy fucks don't have a brain.

>>6676087
can you faggots get off 7 sats its goddamn pointless to leave after only a 16% gain your not getting back in at 6 sats.

>>6678524
im not convinced this is whales, its retards trying to flip it already somehow in their retarded minds or ico people cashing out with their enormous balances, look at the buy ins its rarely more than a $1000 a buy

What are your price predictions for this coin in a few months and by EoY?

>>6681715
im at 120k at 6sats really wanted to sell out dbc to put in but it just keeps plummeting and dont wanna leave with 20% losses

>>6682065
Plummeting? I'm seeing it slightly rising from what I bought at (3pm yesterday)

>>6682286
you got in at an amazing point.

>>6681715
125k, 63 sats, cya in a few weeks.

>>6682473
>>6682473
nice dude gratz

>>6682342
I'm definitely glad to hear that but it's only gone up .00053$

>>6682585
It will continue to go up.

Im trying to buy this shit but I'm not at home so i had to use coinbase and now it won't send money to my wallet, anyone had similar issues?

>>6682956
I ddnt have anyissue. I was actually able to send both eth and ltc from cb to kc today in like 10 min

>>6683009
It won't even go to confirming, it's stuck at sending screen, just when you press send

>>6683066
Does it say sending with the circle revolving? I had that too, but I jist left it alone and checked kucoin and saw it was being received on my ltc wallet.

Is everyone not worried that it won’t get adapted by Telcos? Or just me?

>>6683121
Yes, Ive never had this issue until now, it would usually get stuck at confirmations

>>6683244
On mobile? Check kucoin. Request desktop site. Coinbase may have sent it

>>6683164
It will, it’s a simple payment system using a token on the ETH network, u don’t even need a smartphone to do use it.

The current market is dominated by western union which charges 50dollars to send 300.
The other mobile operators some just act as middleman between remittance business and the client making little money off the massive fees and those mobile providers who do remittance themselves have big fees in place as well and their operative cost is high.
A mobile provider that adopts telcoin will have an edge over its competitors, a transaction on the ETH network takes a couple hours tops and the fees are below 5usd, mobile operators can still charge 20usd to allow users to send 300 dollar, their operative cost is minimal and they make even more money than before while offering a cheaper service.

Western union can’t compete with crypto, this was one of the things envisioned early when the blockchain exploded, bank the unbanked and eliminate monopolies that charge massive fees and use outdated systems.
Remittance market is 500billion dollar.
Research the big players in the remittance market and where most of it focuses, research how much western union charges u to send money .

Telcoin will be adopted and the moment it is adopted by a couple companies the rest will either start their own or adopt telcoin, no reason to not adopt an already stablished provider since telcoin is not competing with them, telcoin is a tool that allows providers to be more competitive and have a bigger share of the remittance market.
This is going to moon, money niggs was right as much as I hate to admit it.

>>6677305
Thanks for this. About to buy about 5k of tel.

>>6676087
What coins can I use to transfer to kucoin they don't have doge or rdd?

>>6683656
Eth or btc

I also used some ltc and then traded to eth on kc

>>6683697
Thanks any cheaper ones?

>>6683770
Neo

>>6683770
>>6683782
nvm they have dgb

When it’s time to sell how do I? Currently have tel in kucoin. How do I exchange that tel for bitcoin on kucoin?

Thinking I need to transfer tel to bitcoin and then send bitcoin to Coinbase to cash out when it’s time.

>>6681715
290k @ 46 sats. Now I just need to do something to pass the time.

>>6676087
tel aviv

>>6683968
yes

95% of people on /biz/ saying this coin is a good bet.

THEN IT FUCKING CLEARLY ISN'T NOW IS IT

>144MM mc
>20b coins
>100b total coins
Not even touching it with a 10-foot pole

What are your price predictions and when? How high do you see this going?

>>6681715
200 at 56 and 61

Shirt fucking exchange kuckcoin.. Trading ETH in 6 decimals.. really

>>6684250
Yo noob, the current price is $0.007. If you don't think it'll be worth a lot more than that then you're seriously retarded

>>6684350
>144 million marketcap
Why is this going to be worth more?

>>6684244
... I still went and bought 35k coins though

>>6684382
OK, it totally is only going to stay at $0.007. Fuck international remittances thru telcos, it's worthless. Don't buy it anon.

>>6684474
Yeah I won't, since you are incapable to tell why this is going to go up apart from
>it will go up!
>implying telcos will ever use this
Enjoy your bags

>>6684608
I mean it could go to 5 cents...if you’re holding a lot you can make some nice gains

>>6684608
Why do you think Telco's will stay away? They basically want to take the idea of Mpesa worldwide.

>>6684608
>Faggot asks for explanations when shit has already been explained a fuck load in this thread alone.
>Faggot thinks 114 million is a large market cap for a currency coin
K

>>6684608
Ppl said ripple would never break a dollar...

How long until this is $1 a coin? Maybe $.50? Need a date. Can be approximated

Went all in on this shitcoin, can't wait to be dissapointed

>>6685150
how much is all in for you?

hurrrrrrr durrrrrr

>>6685350
5k coins

>>6685394
Total noob

What’s this mean?

>>6685394
>>6685513
basically the price is capped at that price.
I don't see this coin going anywhere UNTIL after the contest and even then take a while. going to be sideways, to the floor and back to the walls until its over.

>>6685571
>>6685513
So you have some time to buy in, don't FOMO if it goes up a tad

I bought 400 000 coins at 47 satoshi. Pretth sure this will multiply soon.

>>6676087
I bought 30k at 56 sats will I make it lads? I’m ready to dump even if it hits ten skellies

bought 77k, will i make it?

Shill me this shit coin

>>6676087
Fine, i'll bite. 1 million. If they main target are poor africans using phones it's legit a good idea. remember reading about the insane growth of phone users amongst africans. more africans have smartphones than clean water. And with no real banks to store money. sure. this could work

>>6686697
Maybe. Can you hold to $1? 77k could be life changing for some people

>>6686800

Yeah, that's the story, and that is a hugely popular story among institutional investors in crypto right now, bringing crypto the 3rd world shitholes through the telcos.

>>6686800
how is an african with an avg iq of 70 and the worst education on planet earth going to trade cryptos sucessfully. that would just end up being crypto colonialism

>>6686996
Mpesa has been working in africa for ages. This is just blockchain mpesa. Don't see how it would be problem.

>>6686996
>crypto colonialism

That's the idea I think. The currencies are shit and there are no banks, but you have a phone account, and crypto is banked by the government except for telcoin provided by your phone provider and you can buy them on your cell bill and send them to whoever you want in the world. For example a river crossing wetback who has no bank account but does have a pre paid cell can send telcoin to his family back in mexico.

>>6687093
I mean crypto is banned by the government, except for big businesses to use.

>>6686996
Think of it as getting back for the Trillions of $ in aid we've thrown at their faces the last 40 years with no effect except creating more warlords and economical refugees. Why shouldn't we try to benefit from inevitable crypto revolution in Africa, It's literally 100x safer for them to store it themselves on their phone than ANY institution down there

How long do we have to buy in? Estimate how long until price climb.

Why is this coin the only coin on kucoin that is below 100sats?, every other is from 1000-100000..

How long term of a hold is this? Days? Weeks? Months?

>>6681715
11k at 55 sat.
This is the first coin I've been able to pick up this cheap.

Spent $100. Got 14.1k telcoin. Did I do good, anon?

How high will it go/ when should I sell?

>>6688095
pretty much exactly what i just bougth. fingers crossed now

>>6688095
Why buy now? There's a trading competition for TLC that lasts until 23th of Jan.

>>6687197
Supply

>>6688241
Why now? Do you know how many people would have bought at $0.007 by then? Do you expect these people to sell at $0.007 or higher? There's your answer.

Bought at 6, sold at 7. Waiting for it to drop and then it will moon again

>>6688330
Then you're retarded. Whales will make it go sideways until the end of competition, but I guess pajeets doesn't understand the basics of market manipulation.

>>6688384
You're the retard here. Make it go sideways at $0.007 like they've done so far? Look at it on kucoin. 200 mil sell wall at 0.007, another 200 mil wall at 0.008. People keep buying at or around these prices, and you think it's going to dump on the 23rd? Pretty sure you're the one that doesn't understand basic market manipulation.

THIS OR ETHORSE FOR 10x???
PLEASE REPLY!

>>6688643
Neither, but both will go 5x so put half in Ethorse and half in Telcoin and you will 10x because 5 + 5 is 10

>>6688706
Gold

>>6688706
thanks bought 50k of each

So lads, whats your cash out point?

Bought some yesterday, should be a fun coin to hold for a bit, it has some similarities to Tronix, they have the same total coin amount meaning a cheap price that people will buy,

>>6688956
$1

Is this shit ever going to be on Binance? Cause then I might even buy it

>>6688834
kek

what is up with the chart for this coin?

>>6691006
Mega sell wall fucking shit up

>>6688956
This should be a thread of its own

>>6692073
I would say this coin probably has the initial Trajectory of DBC on Kuoin, 5-10x in a few weeks

>>6688706
Kek