/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>6664383
I want to believe this is true.

>>6664383

Happy for you man, we're all gonna make it

>>6664383

reminder that crypto is banned in communist countries like venezuela

im contacting the hugo chavez police right now

Sounds like a socialists paradise OP. Can I move over?

>>6664383
Based

>>6664383
so happy for you, OP

>>6664383
27 with parents. But long time of issues and stuff. Putting a couple hundred into this. Got in on a couple good ones like FUN. Even with a couple hunna you can do a lot. I almost feel like never logging into anything and coming back in 6 months to find a few grand chillin.

Yes, we're all gonna make it if we put in something and it's something that will moon eventually.

Actually Crysis is a super easy game

>>6664791
Only on normal difficulty

>>6664383
Awww it's a third world miracle.

>>6664791
>>6664713
>>6664637
>>6664559
>>6664536

>MFW this communist cuck wont even take up arms against the chavez regime

>>6664442
Yet you know it isn't.

It's a PR narrative to make crypto look better

>>6664383

OP if you seriously find a way to verify this I will send you some eth, prob double your portfolio.

not even kidding anon, .

>>6664383
This is crypto working as intended. But please stay in your country the west doesn't need brown people.

>tfw I spend 6 years worth of Venezuelan income in a typical weekend at the strip club to rub some tits in my face and buy overpriced alcohol

Damn... really makes me think...

>>6664442
I'm not lying anon.

>>6664791
Kek I unironically can't run crysis on my pc.

>>6664935
Seriously? I don't want to make this a begging thread though
Would

>>6664383
i hope you die

>>6665116
Keep going Anon, do it for us

>>6664383
Fuck communism, welcome to the (((free world)))

>>6665116
How much does a nice property cost in your socialist 'paradise'?

>>6665116
we're all in this together anon

>>6664976
>paying for strippers

Why? I will never understand this.

If you're dumb enough to spend money on tits why not buy an escort?

Paying a stripper the same amount just to feel her tits is like a hungry man paying money to be able to touch fried chicken instead of just paying to eat it

So, where do you intent to start over with 2k?

>>6665247
>property
>socialism

OH NO NO NO

>>6664492
You kidding? I know a few people here do crypto. Our Localbitcoins market is pretty big. There's also that petro shit Maduro is going to implement. Not really looking forward to it.

>>6664559
>>6664637
>>6664460
>>6665211
>>6665316
Thank you

>>6664941
I'm not brown >>6665116

>>6664976
Well it's not your fault. Hope these girls were hot

>>6665247
You can get an appartment in the capital for 40k. People are selling to leave the country anyways. You can get cheaper prices since a few are desperate.

gratz to you dude, happy for ya

>>6664383
Hope this is true. you do know that you have to revolt and string that Maduro fucker up by his neck Mussolini style, right?

>>6664383
Nice work anon.
I can't wait until the day I make my family proud, lifting the burden being useless asset to the family

>>6665555

Damn dude, I feel so happy for you. 4 months salary would be insane to me, but when you're just trying to get by it must be a life-saver. I can't imagine the stress the terrible economy causes all the people of Venezuela that aren't government shills.

Crypto will be amazing for Venezuela when you guys finally throw off the yolk of your oppressive totalitarian government. There will be explosive growth, even more than Chile under Pinochet.

Best wishes from USA. Fuck communism/socialism.

good to hear anon if that is all true god speed.

>>6665116
Post your eth wallet address I'm in on this

>>6664383
Happy for you anon, hope you find what you're looking for in the country you're moving to

Cheers OP, I wish you the best- just look at the bright side, you can't possibly be fat!

post wallet, we should help him a bit. Shit, I didn't realise it's really so bad in Venezuela now...And i was complaining on living in Poland..

>>6665386
Where does people flee to?

And you managed to cash out in Venezuela? I guess you have a bank or something.

Btw this reminds me, venezuelacoin is going to be a moon mission.

>backed by largest oil reserves in the world
>probably unavailable to americans (biggest dumpers)
>100x easily

>>6664895
>chavez

>>6664383
if you have the money try to get out of that sh*thole

If you move to another country make sure to never vote for collectivism ever again.

>>6665679
I can't really refuse the help... My "cold" one is above.

>>6665755
Everywhere. Chile, Argentina, Colombia, Mexico, Peru, Europe, US... You name it.

>>6665736
I'm actually skinny as fuck.

its first time I help someone with crypto but seems it gets to good hands. Can You btw tell us any info You know about that new crypto in Venezuela? backed by oil? Legit or politician shit?

>>6665116
Postea tu eth wallet marico, te mando algo :^)

>>6665857
begging is against the rules. get banned, faggot. anda a mendigar a reddit

>>6664383
unironically in similar position as you but in canada.

>parents = tfw our faggot son no gf ever @ age 25.
>tfw they probably know that im a sightless and hand holdless virgin too.
>tfw literally work in a grave yard
>feels bad when all my parents want is me to have a retarded baby
>i just want to atleast be financially well off so i can let their hearts be at ease abit since they know what a helpless loser i am in this world
>i just really want to do well in cryptos to appease my parents, i honestly thought about living innawood, but i cant forsake my parents.

>>6665919
Politician shit. It's like bonds, rather than a cryptocurrency.

>>6665938
Lol, where are you from?

>>6665977
You can make it anon. Also you are in damn Canada. Go outside and work and put all you can in crypto.

>>6665857
Good luck in that shithole brother. Just sent you $10

https://etherscan.io/tx/0xf2025e8bc1e4b6a52088763990155d7ca9c44d96d52628c276f2bfa6055d8765

>>6666093
Thank you anon. Your generosity will take you places. Is that a regular wallet of yours? I won't forget you in the future.

>>6664383
>I'm happy
How can you be happy when commies still breathe among you? Use your gains to buy a helicopter and give them free rides Venezuela Anon.

>>6665386
You're pretty Brown dude.

>>6664383
Wait $25 is 4 months or minimum wage? What the fuck? Why do I even go to Thailand for whores and pay them 100$ when I can go there?

>>6664383

I would guess most of you are aussiefags, i really love to go on /biz/ at this time because you fags are the most sincere and human of the /biz/Bros out there.
t.yuropoor

>>6666193
Yeah, wallet linked to my metamask. I use it a lot. Go buy a steak and some venezula street cocaine

>>6665948
he didn't fucking beg in any second, we want to help him from our choice u asshole.
>>6666054
is that Yours wallet with REQ and LINK?

>>6666291
then help me too. por favor, amigo yo estoy tambien en la inmunda

>>6666230
For my country standards, I'm really pale.

>>6666265
Well I guess Thailand is slightly more secure kek. You can get a top tier whore for less than $10 an hour.

>>6666265
you can find venezuelan hookers in colombia where it's actually safer than venezuela for a foreign right now, I was there on nov-dec and man whose girls are awesome and sometime way cheaper than colombians

>>6665857
>a country so shitty people will flee to MEXICO
F

>>6666291
Yes anon. Thanks for even asking.

>>6666339
prove you're not a pajeet and I'll send you some DASH

>>6665857
Alright I'm going to bed, go fill that fridge faggot

>>6664383

I assume they already spent it but don't hold any venezuelan currency. Spend it the second you get it preferably on durable goods that can be bartered. Good luck getting out of that shithhole I think things will get worse before they get better.

>>6666054
thx my fellow nigger, thats what im doing, but winter time, im laid off. i've been stacking silver since i was about 20, thank fuck i found cryptos somewhat early, if i held onto everything till a week ago, i could be sitting on 100k. but we live and learn i suppose, our time will come im sure! i still atleast have 7k usd worth in cryptos, hopefully cash out some, and wait to get in when things cool off alot in weeks to come

>>6666444
tripsss

>>6666444
checked

>>6666402
nice

>>6665977

Damn yo, that shit feels too real. Also from Canada with a similar motivation.

Although I don't think I would have a problem with girls, I've just yet to find a girl that I actually found interesting. Maybe my standards are too high?

Will send you some coins tmrw!! I have enough but we have to help each other! Crypto stays together

>>6666444
quad tripssss jezuz

>>6665977
top kek, comparing living in Canada with Venezuela. You have it easy. Full retard.

>>6666402
Today, /biz/ was pretty awesome.

>>6666391
here's my little help, too. Good luck anon
https://etherscan.io/tx/0xec47d7a8fb87094cc1ce60d17a375906fe5fde1a705b36d7ec85f4ace9c474af

>>6666393
don't have a smartphone. the computer i'm using is a pentium4. thanks to the fucking 21st century socialism my country is in the dust. i've been unemployed for 6 years.

FUCK YOU VENEZUELA. FUCK YOU VERY MUCH

t. ecuador

>>6666054
MX marico, todos la vamos a hacer.
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x32f052383882f035ea52aaf051c28954d9abcbe92093591ea4c6103330dbf508

>>6666537
spot on.

>>6666549
Damn, he’s up to $125 so far. Good stuff guys

https://etherscan.io/address/0xfce1a777eb61fcae7bca7a81294b4d5ea54ef9aa

>>6666542
yeah, actually i can't believe this.
faith in humanity restored a bit.

666666y6y

>>6666626
No kidding.

Include me in the screencap.

Shithole

>>6666626
7ths....fucking sevenths!!!! indeed /biz/ was fucking awesome today

>>6666402
>>6666549
>>6666560
What the fuck... Thank you all. Kinda wish you had used your account to pay you back in the future >>6666402. Thank you. Wish you all the best.

>>6666415
Thanks for your words. I'm eager to move out soon.

>>6666444
Nice numbers. And everything will be fine anon. Wish you luck.

Guys I'm flattered but come on I had enough than my fair share. Thank you.

it's obvious this board is full of normies now because you are all giving money to someone

Today biz was awesome

>parents are becoming unable to make due
>thinking about taking your gains and leaving the country, and your parents, behind

proof that biz aint all bad

I have 500 LINK and they smell like shit. Will you take them?

>>6665780
Any word on availability

capitalism saves lives once again

Based anons donating.

Live the dream, OP.

>>6666783
it's gift , not a fucking loan. keep it. Is really 1 month salary about 6-7 dollars in Your country? I just...can't fucking believe this..

>>6666784
Not even close. Seen this a lot over the years when someone has a nice story + proof. I’ve seen $1k+ of BTC for a sharpie in the pooper before

>>6666863
Socialism is twisting on its grave...once again

>>6666800
I'm sure he would still make sure they were eating, he should take care of himself first. His parents would probably want that for him.
>No bully Venezualanon

>>6666402
>that link

>>6666863
This is one of the best posts I have ever read.

i mined 290,000 dogecoins early on and still have them, just wait till bitcoin hits 100k

Good for you, man. You made it

>420 LINK

>>6666863
Except for someone to make gains in crypto means someone had to lose.

>>6665116
DO IT FOR HIM, WHEN U WANT TO SELL THINK OF HIM, WHEN YOU WANT TO CASH OUT AND THINK ITS ENOUGH STOP AND KEEP GOING, DO IT FOR HIM

TO THE MOON THE STARS THE NEVER ENDING GALAXY

>>6666800
he said he'd leave half of his earning with his parents, reread. ass..

good luck OP.

>>6667054
>Use alternative system
>End up with Venezuela

Choose

>>6664383
You are welcome here is Chile, anon. Escape from that shit hole as soon as you can.

>>6667112
YES TRUELY

>>6667189
how are the females in Chile? I am a very tall white male with a well muscled body and average face. I want to go on sex tourism trip to south america. Colombia and brazil seem to be the hotspots for this, but I am more interested in Chile/Peru/Argentina. I need women with fat asses.

give me an honest reply and I will unironically send OP some LINK

Godspeed my mestizo brother. Hope you get out of there as soon as you can. My grandparents made it out of South America in the 60s to give a better future for their kids. Hope you can do the same.

Bullshit

>>6665116
0.057 send

>>6665977
I need to know more about grave yard thing, what do you do? whats something strange you've seen?

>>6664383
>last monday i sold a tiny bit of my holdings ($25 worth) for local currency
Dude, if I go there with my 10 btc I could become the president then. Also, dont even think about coming to Argentina. We really really hate you guys, sorry, nothing personal. Well, we also hate Brazil, Chile, paraguay, uruguay, peru and bolivia but thats besides the point.

>>6664383
How do you cash out in Venezuela desu?

>>6664383
post you MEW adress, i'll pitch in some of my gains just this one time. i lived through 90-s in Russia i know how it feels.

>>6667112
Yes

>>6667350
so spit it out anon where are you heading then? if you hate all south america?

>>6666800
They wouldn't flee anyway. They own their house, have been all their lives here. I have no future on my own, still have to build it.

And of course they will receive money from me overseas.

>>6666893
Thank you. Yes, it was actually $4.4 in december. But dollar is rising again so that $7 will be short soon.

>>6667189
Chile is great, lots of friends and ex-coworkers there.

>>6667027
My birthday is 4/20 lol. Not lying.

>>6666897
I already screencapped this. I won't forget this day. All I wanted to share was my happiness.

Dad came home a while ago and said hello with a brofist. He's in a better mood definitely. I'm nearly crying now.

Also got a ban for begging, which I did not. But thanks to all of you for your kindness really.

>>6667399
Is situation in Russia better now? I see total rich and total poor contrast there

>>6664383
You made it amigo

>>6666402
What a nice guy. Today /biz was a pretty good place to be.

>>6667414
ok im about to go to sleep cause its 2 am here but ill transfer u some eth
address im gonna send it through goes 0x...eeba6
CJEERS

Argentinian here op, happy for you, get out of that shitty country

Venezuelan police here, you're supposed to be mining for us and only us remember. We get paid first. Youre on the watchlist now boy

>>6667414
from that day I will never ever compain on my life in Poland. You learned me to appreciate what I have now. 5$ ... holy fuck...My brain can't even take it...if really 4/20 birthday im even more happy to help You CAUSE 420 BLAZE IT:) oh and dude, as Im long in crypto one advice - NEVER panic sell at dips. Never. Its always rebouncing back.

>>6667350
Don’t worry everyone hates argentinians too, like everywhere, except Italy.

Good for u OP, I live in Brazil and the situation is also really bad in here.


Stay in crypto and we will make a lot of money in the next years. We're in this market SUPER EARLY, especially in ours shitty countries. Just hold.

>>6667399
You can't post wallet adress here cause it will get deleted but you can have it from etherscan.

Here
>>6666093
>>6666549

>>6667350

The Argentinean is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a nonwhite and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

>>6664383
Don't go to Colombia. We will be in deep shit soon. We might be sightly better than venezuela but still have lots of inequality and corruption, and it will get worse with the "peace process", low oil prices, and the constant struggle between far left and far right.

Stay strong hermano

>>6664383
Isn't safe to live there as a foreigner? I have like 20k$ stashed so basically I would be able to retire there with that money?

240 dolars by now...You guys are awesome.

>>6667340
Thank you just read your post. Thank you.

>>6667490
Gracias pibe. Thank you.

>>6667516
Poland! I kinda hope Lewadowski had signed for Real Madrid in 2014. But oh well. And yes, I have strong hands. Good luck.

>>6667581
Obrigado.

>>6667665
Colombia is better right know and that money is worth literally x3 with the current exchange rate in

>>6667350
Argentinians are such faggots.

>>6667175
Venezuela doesn't have a socialist economy, 70% of their GDP comes from the private sector. The government does have a socialist ideology but their polices are social democratic, a tolerance for capitalism. Cuba, Ecuador, Nicaragua, Uruguay, and Bolivia also have socialist governments but their economies are doing more or less the same as Latin america as a whole. The reason you meme about Venezuela is because it's the country with the largest reservoir of oil so naturally it's the target of imperialism; in this case economic imperialism.

>>6667665
Probably murdered by street urchins or tossed in commie gulag desu

>>6667440
yeah it's a lot better, 90s were pretty much lawless wasteland with no prospects or future, imagine Chicago or Detroit but scale it up to a country and add military conflicts and shortages of food. It's still difficult to live here, but it was like this for over 1000 years. although i should not complain i got it pretty good all thanks to my family. By modern western standarts i live pretty good, have an 100 sq meters apartment, bmw 5 series and good education.

>>6667665
Honestly, crime is a big issue here. I wouldn't recommend living here.

>>6667705
Yeah, Warsaw, city of war. Maybe that's why I feel ur shit situation. My city was completely destroyed during WW II by german cucks. Yeah he should go to this Real imo, now im afraid its too late. Cross fingers for us on World Cup to kick Colombias' ass! And greet Your parents from biz :)

>>6667413
Im not op, Im from Argentina saying we hate the rest of South America. And they probably hate us too so no biggie.

Im not going anywhere lmao. I will retire here by eoy. Only need 400k usd to retire for life here. Started with 1k 5 months ago, now Im at 150k, with 40k req and 15k link. Im 100% I will get those 400k eoy.

If you are wondering what will I do with 400k: Buy 4 houses, live in one, rent the other 3. Live like a king. A 4 bedroom house by the beach is 90k. Pic related, I took this picture last weekend of the place Im moving as soon as I get my 400k

>>6667743

>not real socialism

>>6667440
>Is situation in Russia better now?
it's better in big cities like Moscow and Saint Petersburg. In place where I live average monthly salary is like $200. But there are places much worse, like Norilsk, literally suicide tier. If you're born there you'd better just kill yourself and hope to reroll in a better country.
But thank god, I'm not a working class hero and probably will never be thanks to crypto.
I'm too young to know what 90s in russia were like, but from the stories of my parents and my friends parents that was a wild fucking ride.

>>6664383
wish I could send you some shit, but my moneys are locked in ICOs and jewbrel. Hang in there brother, we're all gonna make it

>>6667778
how's the REAL situation with Ukraine? They are flooding Poland hard now..Is there still war? Or its only a Crime? Do Russians really hate Ukrainians or Poles? We don't

>>6667875
the most beautiful women I've ever seen in my life are Ukrainians

>>6664383
Your story and the generosity of this board are inspiring,

New fag, how do I send him some BAt from bianance?

Vid related to generosity shown on board.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBo3MxY6llo

>>6664383
Jesus christ OP, I'm a poorfag but I can spare $25 if it covers 4 months of wagecucking. What's your ETH address?

>>6666537
really? we're both communist nations

>>6667909
I can admit they are beauties. I had one for 2 years. But trust me Polish girls are hotties as fuck too. But what can I say about UKR girls is that they usually have good honest hearth and aren;t money grabbers. I actually look for another one now ;d

>>6667866
curious fuck here, why is norilsk that bad? apart from the pollution and that occasional -50

>>6664383
I noticed recently chaturbate is full of venezuelans doing all the kinky staff on cam. Is prostitution legal there? I'm just wondering how long till your commie shithole turning to the Thailand of SA. Would leave a few bucks there so those chicks can have breakfast.

>>6667946
I think many of us today realised we are not poorfags...

>>6664383
Damn I don't care if this is a larp that was touching

>>6667743
even if that was the case (which it isnt), it's venezuela responsability to be able to defend its economy from foreign interests, and if it fails to do so, is its fault. Fucking chavistas sitting in their asses waiting to be fed, i swear to god...

>>6667843
forgot the pic.

Sent you .27 eth

Spend them on some blow or whatever

>>6664383
grats bro hope you keep making gains

>>6668048

>va a tomar mate a la bristol

>>6667350
Y los mexicanos?

i think i need to stop think that all of biz are racist cunts without hearth from today.

Take your parents with you op. Or at least leave them a good amount and send some every month for them. My grandpa is in Venezuela but hes well off as he does odd jobs for drug cartels along with his reg job.

>>6664383
Good for you anon! May bigger gains come your way so you can get out of that socialist shithole

>>6664383
Nice larp, Pajeet

>>6668081
Thank you from me as well

>>6667848
I'm not saying it's not real socialism, I'm saying they never got to socialism for various reason. I also pointed out 5 other "socialist" countries but you seemed to ignore those. Why don't you explain Venezuela's economy to me and tell me how they overlap with what historical socialists have wrote? Marx for example.

>>6668035
Yes, it's Venezuela's fault they can't defeat the largest military in the world who controls most of the world's economy. The same country that's toppled countless democratically elected governments and has installed more than half the world's dictators. Good read a book, your history teacher failed you.

>>6665116
Nice mang, glad to hear the good news. Good luck.

Btw, what did you think about Oscar Perez?

>>6665977
You're a loser get your shit together, be a man. You wasted the get. You are way too fucking old to be this big of a loser

>>6667875
It depends, far Western Ukraine was inherently Polish and we have very little to do with it, we don't like western Ukraine and they don't like us. Eastern Ukraine is pretty much Russia, only Russians live there and you cant make any differences between us. Crimea is 98% Russian(demographics wise), they are extremely patriotic towards Russia and they are more Russian then i can ever be, it is difficult to explain, but when it all started they showed such bravery and selfless courage that it really strikes you when you look at it. It proly sounds stupid to westerners but, but we do have very old ethics of honour in regards of what is god and what is bad, they are usually unspoken but they are universal when it comes to your deeds.

>>6668081
Even though i know this is a larp, its done so well I couldnt resist the urge to throw my money at it. Well done OP, you win the game

>>6668140
Yes. we have mexicans but at least we share our love for DBZ and Saint Seiya with. So weeb mexicans ware a-ok.

And just people know argentinians are not faggots, I ll send op some eth too. Just never come here.

>>6667923
Im not 100% sure but I think BAT is RC20 token kept on myetherwallet so just send on the same adress we sent.

>>6667981
>slavery factory jobs that don't pay shit.
>Very bad and expensive internet connection
plus the ones you mentioned. Pollution is so bad that it affects health and decreases the average lifespan
You can't even escape from this shithole easily, it's located in the middle of nowhere. Like a modern day gulag or something

>>6668150
yeah we can say the same for others who openly pretend to be all that and caring, but when time comes, they usually walk away unless they're in front of a camera. pathetic. also, your a nigger.

>>6667983
Is not legal, but women can do it indepently and book themselves online with no issues.

>>6668023
I wish I was larping, specially about the being in Venezuela part. But thanks for the kind words.

>>6668081
This is all oficially going to my escape of venezuela fund. Thank you anon, you are generous. Wish you the best.

What gave you away was the father brofist son retardism

>>6667778
Da ty ohuel.

>>6668181

>we have hyperinflation
>let's solve it by printing billions of bolivares and raise the minimum wage every week that'll fix it
>oh no the economy is going to shit it's the imperialists attacking us!!!

Socialists have nothing to do in crypto just get the fuck out of this board already

>>6668248
actually instead of what shitty politics / TV / mass media says Poles looks on Russians as same mentality as our. My ppl start to hate UKR lil bit because of super flood of them to work and as girls are nice , that men are lazy cunts only looking to steal and do nothing all day.

>>6668048
Come up here to Colombia you blue eyed fuck, live like a TRU KING. Tendre tu cocaína lista bro.

>>6667946
i got it from here
https://etherscan.io/address/0xfce1a777eb61fcae7bca7a81294b4d5ea54ef9aa

>>6668304
Lulz ur welcum, larp or not

>>6668304
are you gonna take your parents with you when you leave Venezuela? would they even want to leave?

Another venezuelan shitholer here, it's true, all of it.

>>6668181
Shut the fuck up commie faggot, you have no fucking clue of what you're talking about. I'm sure you're one of those cucked leftists who thinks he's so smart and everyone else is dumb because he knows socialism can work. Venezuela is a socialist shithole in whole extension of the word, every policy that was implemented since Chavez took power comes from the same retarded idea of wealth redistribution and a central planned economy. The goverment is the ONLY to blame for the absolute and utter colapse of the currency, they printed and printed money until the bill paper was worth more than the bill itself after being printed.

>>6668276
pajeet stop calling me negero ;] yeah most of my friends takes a fucking selfie when they give some spare to homeless or smt. Indeed, pathethic.

if you are a freelancer on the english speaking job boards you should probably make more money than wagecucking in venezuela

>>6668304
You're making it out this year if I do I can tell you that much

>>6667981
it's an old mining city in place no human was meant to live, don't know much about it, but in soviet era you retired in like 10-12 years of working there + you got 2 or 3 months a year of holidays in the south it was that bad.

>>6668371
>>6668416
This is the 2nd or 3rd time you ignored my arguments, do you know what strawman is? I'll give you tip, it's pinned on /pol/

>>6668410
No, they will stay. Many families do this. The younger ones leave and send money from working overseas. They wouldn't probably want to leave. I think it is far easier changing your life at 23 than at 50.

>>6668537
where do You plan to move?

>>6664383
Here you go OP, from Russia with love

https://etherscan.io/tx/0x6bf5a3ef45c9018ac5f872897018d38dad403cfb1c49821edd6d3ec7dc293d46

>>6668391
Colombia beaches are so nice.

Realistically, how much money do I need to live from rent there or simply retire? I dont want to be a drug lord, I just want to be free from wagecucking. Never having to work again.

How much does a house near the beach costs?

>>6665116

Que sentimiento me dio lee esto mano, feels. La esperanza es lo ultimo que se pierde hermano venezolano. Sigue hacia adelante y no le hagas mucho caso a estos anormales. Saludos desde Puerto Rico

Venezuelabro here too. It's true, Actually right now 1 USD = 200 BS, Minimum wage = 700 BS/Month. I'm also saving to get out of this shitplace and help my family from outside the country. I'm currently working online doing translations and microtasks, get paid thru paypal and cashout selling the funds for local currency. On an average week I make around 10$ which is enough to buy groceries for the week. I tried crypto last year but made a lot of shitty trades and abandoned it, I'm trying again this year with some of last year's leftovers (I had 4000 BCN stored), learning a lot in the process.

Really hope you make it man, just don't be a dick in the country you arrive, a lot of people are hating us right now because of that. Posting this from my phone's data plan since 4chan banned Venezuela's CANTV IPs

>>6668525
Your whole argument is retarded, "Yes, it's Venezuela's fault they can't defeat the largest military in the world who controls most of the world's economy." Who the fuck told you Venezuela is fucked because of the US? It's insane and only retarded white leftists cucks are the ones who believe that.

>>6668161
please go on about your granpa doings with the cartel

>>6668181
venezuela is not the only country with natural resources. And you haven't even been in a military conflict with the US. You're bankrupt because you were too lazy to diversify from oil, heck, you didn't even invested enough in modernizing and optimizing your oil production.

>>6668416
I dont want to defend socialism much less venezuela but socialism is to put the means of production and national resources in the hands of workers. Do you feel the workers own the mean of production and resources? Then its not socialism.

Its capitalism just with high taxes.

>>6668577
Another nearby country, but in a better place. Chile or Argentina are my main options.

>>6668580
Thank you! I am shocked at this point. Many thanks.

>>6664383
Sent 10 ENG for you to hodl, I have a good friend from Margarita Island, Venezuela!
Good luck from Australia

>>6668676
I think Your portfolio is expanding to many new tokens now kek ;) tell me then which South America country is best for casual tourist to visit and have fun? withouth getting robbed etc

>>6668608
You should really try freelancing man, those microtasks sites are slave camps. I'm freelancing doing meme graphic design and I've been doing pretty good, but I just recently decided to get into crypto just before the collapse, I'm planning to save a bit more so I have more luck now that I got my feet wet.

>>6668525

I don't have to respond to your arguments because they're fucking stupid, you don't know shit about the countries you mention but somehow claim they're all the same. Kill yourself retard you don't know shit about latin america go back to your meme boards.

>>6668687
Thank you... Yes, I will hold all of it as long as I can. Thank you again. This is beyond crazy now.

>>6668687
that Island looks like paradise on photos

>>6668744
Dejes que el sufre con esa ignorancia, el no va triumfiar al final, te lo prometo.

>>6668635
He has a whole other family there aftet my grandma dies. I doubt he would tell me everytbing but he told me a few things in confidential because i asked him how his family up there does so well. I knew he was up to some shit and kept in his ass about it until he decided to tell me a few stuff.

He mainly does small transport jobs locally and rarely a few ins and outs of venezuela. Some stash jobs sometimes, he has a fairly large plot of land able to stash cocaine underground.. ofc hes paid handsomely

>>6668634
>Who the fuck told you Venezuela is fucked because of the US? It's insane and only retarded white leftists cucks are the ones who believe that.

https://www.unz.com/jpetras/us-venezuela-relations-a-case-study-of-imperialism-and-anti-imperialism/

>>6668665
The reason why Venezuela is dependent on oil is because of neoliberal reforms done by Caldera. They're only diversifying now because of the socialists parties.

>>6668744
>don't have to respond to your arguments because they're fucking stupid
The absolute state of /pol/

>>6668777
tus trips lo hace veridico jaja

>>6668726
>not getting robbed in america portion south of Canada

Impossible.

>>6668773
I will get there one day, once it settles down!

>>6664383
Good luck anon and God speed.

Some HST in the hope voting corruption one day ends in your country with this technology.

https://etherscan.io/tx/0x1c6acf1ef1985ba01483532ff9bcd2c74208563b1db29aaf9d95d3a3e46951ec

>>6668850
that's what I heard too. Unfortunately I fucking love Mexico culture and would love to go there

>>6664383
I think it is time to screen cap this thread for good feels thread in the future.

>>6668808
how are socialists different from neoliberals though

>>6668946
Did this already. We kinda build a small portfolio for our bro today ^^

>>6668808

They really are retarded, I live in one of the countries you mentioned comparing us to venezuela because "hurr durr they're all socialist!" is something a retarded american would do.

Do I have to talk about monetary policies, currency controls, fiscal policy, etc you don't even know what that is.

Please just please get the fuck out of this board you have nothing to add here.

>>6667252
Come to Rio(Brazil)...We are having Carnaval on the second week of february.
Bet all my portfolio you won't regret it. Bitches here love white foreigners.

>>6668670
>"this isnt real socialism"

if workers want resources and means of production they might as well save some money or take a loan and create their own enterprise, nothing is stopping them

based /biz/

>>6664383
Tambien de Venezuela negro, I'm trying to leave this year, good luck.

>>6668048
which of these houses is the four bedroom house

>>6668670
You're defending socialism, you're using the same argument that "it's not real socialism" because x.

Workers unions have become a mafias that are controlled by the government so they can take down the few remaining private companies that are still trying to survive under all the communist policies. All the other attempts by the government to open "socialists" factories have failed miserabely because nobody give sa shit if the factory produced or not, that's why the very idea of "the workers controlling the means of production" is retarded, it will always be the goverment controlling everything behind courtains.

>It's capitalism with high taxes
Oh my god, please read more.

>>6668808
Oh my God you're retarded, I didn't think there were actual commies on these board. Chávez literally made the contry completely dependant on oil because he literally destroyed the whole economy and always bragged about how they had oil for 200 years, he had no fucking intentions to diversify the economy, only now that they realized that oil is not enough because of low prices they trying every stupid idea like that "cryptocurrency" they tried to implement.

>>6667696

500! 1/2eth, my first bit of good faith in 4chan

>>6668264
JKF, I am to retarded to figure this out, this thread is going to be dead before I know what is the right address to send this anon a few shekels,

Help.

>>6668925
Jesus christ....... Thank you. Thank you deeply.

>>6668946
I have like 20 screencaps now. Probably going to archive it too.

>>6669009
Suerte negro.

>>6669033
you should check his tokens, we are over a 1000 by now.

reminder that if you give into your pathological altruism impulse and actually give free money to this faggot, you're an irredeemable cuck and need to commit suicide.

>>6668948
I'd take neoliberals over commies any time. At least neoliberals don't want to open fucking gulags and openly shooting people on the street.

>>6669033
Actually at the moment we bizbros got about 860$ for him! I think I need to do good things for others more often...in this fucking Europe culture and ratrace I almost forgot how fucking good feel it is.

>>6669094
Hey OP, what makes it shit to live in venezuela if you're not from venezuela and earn money on the internet?

I live in Holland and I can't stand dutch women and don't really give a fuck where i live. Is it dangerous or is there anything I should be worried about?

>>6665386
>You can get an appartment in the capital for 40k
Seriously? So if $25 is 4 months of wages that means you need to work for 533 years while having zero spendings
nigga...

>>6664899
What are you implying?

>>6669087
i got it from here. people are donating a lot of tokens, i wonder how diversified of a portfolio we can get.
https://etherscan.io/address/0xfce1a777eb61fcae7bca7a81294b4d5ea54ef9aa

>>6669132
every penny you give to this faggot is a penny you take away from your unborn children. even worse if you're already a father. you people make me physically ill.

>>6667743
>70% of their GDP comes from the private sector.

Literally the government controls the whole importation system, it's illegal to import stuff without government permission, literally almost all of the """"""private sector""""" is the same people in the goverment or their friends.

>>6664383
So I always hear how if an american goes there its pretty much guaranteed to end in death either shot and robbed or arrested for being the fall guy the government can say "look we caught some foreign agent capitalistic pig who was threatening our socialists paradise". Well, is there any truth to stuff like that? Is it possible to be an american tourists there? I'm kind of a contrarian in that I buy when everyone else is panic selling in fear and I'm selling when everyone else is confidently greedy so would that type of mentality apply to visiting your country?

>>6669155
Crime. Food shortages. But mostly crime. It's just too dangerous.

>>6669087
just send on the same adress where we did, it will work. BAT is also RC20 token, it will show on his MEW>

>>6668987
As a brazilian, I can confirm.
Just take your dick out and brazilian girls are going to fight for it. Not jking.

>>6669216
I guess all positives have negatives.

>>6668808
which diversification if you have almost no national production?

Caldera sucked too of course. So you ppl said "OK we were far right, now let's try far left, that should do the trick"

ppl like you deserve the hellhole you live in. keep blaming others, hope that keeps you safe and fed.

>>6669166

You silly american, if you want a house you have to support the government and ask them to give you one

>>6668948
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

>>6668985
Here you go retard, learn something:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhwIdIiYPQM

>>6669030
>Chávez literally made the contry completely dependant on oil
No, dependency on oil came about through Perez and Caldera's neoliberal economic reforms which the United States were in favor of. Fucking read a book and stop trying to revise history because it's convenient for you.

>This event became known as the 1973 oil crisis. Following a culmination of conflicts in the Middle East and the oil producing countries of the Persian Gulf no longer exporting to the United States and oil prices rising steeply, Venezuela experienced a significant increase in oil production profits. Between 1972 and 1974, the Venezuelan government revenues had quadrupled.[14] With a new sense of confidence, Venezuelan president Carlos Andrés Pérez pledged that Venezuela would develop significantly within a few years.[14] By substituting imports, subsidies, and protective tariffs, he planned to use oil profits to increase employment, fight poverty, increase income, and diversify the economy. However, OPEC members had been violating production quotas, and oil prices fell drastically again in the 1980s, pushing Venezuela deeper into debt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Venezuelan_oil_industry#Oil_embargo_of_1973

>>6669205
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/07/18/socialism-private-sector-dominates-venezuelan-economy-despite-chavez-crusade.html

>>6669166
same thing in Russia. Decent 2 bedroom apartment will be around 200k USD, and average salary in Moscow is around a 1000 USD. it is impossible to buy it for you average joe.

>>6669155
you would care if you lived in a shithole all your life.

>>6669303
In Poland average Janusz (our version of Joe) also can't afford own house with average salary. Everyone fucked up on shitty mortgages

>>6669121
>open fucking gulags
Wow, the USSR isn't allowed to have a prison system to curve tail niggers?

>>6669325
OP, im going to Amsterdam this holiday (ofc for weed fun etc) any food local recomendations? and why u can't stand Your women?

>>6669298
I literally replied to you, are you retarded? The """""""""private sector""""""""""" is literally the goverment.

>I know what I'm talking about because I read a few articles in Wikipedia and watched a Youtube video.

Get out of this board and go to reddit you commie faggot, kill yourself.

>>6667743
Shut the fuck up first world commie faggot. I'm brazilian and this fucking shithole is already a hell, thanks to 14 years of fucking liberal social democracy ruling it. But Venezuela, Peru and Bolivia were a few years ahead in your "great" communist politics, so their countries are shittier than Brazil and so they flee to this stinky hellhole.
Quit the pseudo-intellectual act and live by your beliefs...MOVE TO FUCKING VENEZUELA, leaving all your trump money behind and start a new life there,you fucking government lover.

>>6665977
Seen any spooky stuff? I love ghost stories even they’re total BS

>>6669298

Oh another american telling me all "socialist" countries in latin america are the same, I have learned so much now!

No discuto mas con yankees retardados ya me esta haciendo calentar este pelotudo.

>>6667054
>the economy is a zero sum game

lmao

maybe in Venezuela it is because they don't have free markets

>>6669246
You're such a fucking brainlet, they never far left or far right. They went from neoliberalism to social democracy, nothing to do with with fascism or socialism.

>>6669488
Give me your citations showing the government "literally" controlling 70% of the country's GDP.

>>6669514
That's not an argument.

>>6669398
>Leftists fucks actually saying gulags weren't bad.

Let's switch places and you can fucking live in Venezuela and see for yourself.

>>6669198
Lol my kids are going to have more than enough money. Thanks for the concern

>>6667743
>literal socialist cuck defending socialism on /biz/
Please get the fuck out you delusional retard

also btw anime is anti-communist

>>6669544
>cryptocurrencies = economy

Leave it to an ancap to be retarded

>>6664899
>It's a PR narrative to make crypto look better
Holy fuck my sides, the utter state of nocoiners.

wow /biz/ did a good thing.

>>6669298
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
Neoliberalism isn't even a real fucking thing, it's a made up

How are central banks and massive government interventionist capitalism?

Also why the fuck are you even on /biz/?
Kill yourself

>>6665364
Stds?

>>6669581
Please get the fuck out you delusional cuck

>>6669597
>currency
>not capitalist
Jesus christ socialists are beyond fucking brain dead.

Why the fuck are you here?
All of your "comrades" hate crypto.

Get the fuck out you waste of life.

>>6669554
Brainlet with no education detected. Where ya from? The back roads? Kys

>>6669581
>also btw anime is anti-communist

>>6666093
God damn it you stupid faggot

Hey man Im from Uruguay. You are welcomed here but I think you would be a lot better in Chile. Just try to gather some info from other venezuelans and make a choice yourself. We give citizenship pretty easy tho

>>6669634
>literal socialist that defends central banking and socialist slavery

lmao Chile is the most successful country in SA today because they kept most of Pinochet's reforms.

Holy shit I can't believe leftypol is actually trying to raid the most capitalist free market board on 4chan

Free helicopter rides for you desu

>>6669618
>Neoliberalism isn't even a real fucking thing, it's a made up
Yeah and Jews control everything right? THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF POL

>>6669674
I didn't say currency was or wasn't capitalist you fucking retard, go back to school and learn how to argue.

>>6669676
>getting so butthurt he lost an argument he's resorting to shitposting

>>6669696
Dude I spent like $50 on beers last night, and my crypto went up $100k last night from the eth pump. I’m gonna be ok

>>6669732
>Chile is the most successful country in SA today because they kept most of Pinochet's reforms
[citation needed]

>Free helicopter rides for you desu
Read the image you're replying to classcuck

My dream is to move a Venezuela, buy a big house, and have hookers (pic related) over all day. Venezuela is probably the cheapest place on earth atm.

How much money do I need to sustain that lifestyle for a year? Is it safe?

>>6664383
I'm from Brasil, anon.
So, tell me more as it's live in Venezuela at this moment? How is the crypto market there? And about the government, the people approve the president?

>>6669773
Last month*** obviously... not that rich

>>6669684
Anime is anti-communist.
The author of YS is not an actual marxist leninist, he's just some typical leftist. Which is extremely rare in the anime industry.
Actual communism is extremely rare in Japan, Japanese people fought against communism and saw exactly what it did to China.
Why would they want to be slaves like Chinese people are?

If you claim to enjoy anime and are a communist you're a massive hypocrite.

Anime is created by capitalism and supported by capitalists, it's literally bourgeoisie propaganda.

just sent u .009 eth. go buy some PFR and sit it for 2 month, then, go buy some fucking chicken.

>>6669576
doubt it. this thread proves you're a bleeding heart faggot with no self-control. you indiscriminately allow yourself to be bled dry by every sob story you encounter. only women are supposed to behave like this.
you all need to get your estrogen levels checked. in the meantime i strongly recommend that you stop drinking from plastic bottles or consuming soy.

>>6669554
I'm sure as you hit post you said oh wait? I'm on /biz/ and not /pol/ right? Fuck off Just as bad a pajeet. LeArN yOu SoMeThInG Nigger.

>>6668733
Phone restarted and I lost connection. Yea I've tried it and done some jobs, but the freelancing market is a bitch. The kind of microtasking I do is not that bad actually, just submitting data for AI learning, self driving cars, categorization and stuff

>>6664383
Venezuelan in the US here, we are going to make it bro

Venezuelan poorfag here, my funds are a real shit, I'll make it /biz/?

0xc4de41d26a952e80cbd8248ba3f4dd0474013319

>>6669753
>Yeah and Jews control everything right? THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF POL
>MUH JEWS
>MUH EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS POL
You're falling apart now.

>I didn't say currency was or wasn't capitalist you fucking retard
I'm saying currency IS capitalist and socialists want to abolish MARKETS.
Except market socialists which are rare.
Just suffocate yourself you subhuman animal.

>>6669791
>[citation needed]
https://www.thisischile.cl/chile-has-the-best-standard-of-living-in-latin-america/?lang=en

>Read the image you're replying to classcuck
>BAAAAWWWW YOU'RE A KEK BECAUSE YOU WANT HIGHER LIVING STANDARDS AND DON'T WANT TO BE A SLAVES
I never understood this shit lmao
Also how would workers taking over the means of production magically increase my living standards if the working class already consumes 99% of the consumer goods they produce?
lol idiot

>>6669823
who the fuck gives a shit it's not your eth

>>6669819
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x55eebf0214ceb27e54e5f8baac0b9de2f579b707c901434c88b4e1fa25da7e13

>>6669807
>The author of YS is not an actual marxist leninist, he's just some typical leftist.

>this is what weeb manchild ancaps actually believe

>>6669819
drink bleach you cuck

>>6669554
those are the colors for far in latinamerica now, and the only economies that more or less work here are, guess, closer to neoliberalism omg i wonder why.

I sincerely don't understand how ppl like you can defend Venezuela's government even at this point. Even if i'm completely wrong in my arguments, that doesn't change the fact that your "socialismo del siglo 21" failed, and you ppl need to try another system if you want to improve your situation.

>>6664383
Hey anon good for you. Question, where are the hottest venezuelan qt's at? How hars is it to get with them as a cryptorich American Übermensch? I heard Venezuelan girls were hot.

>>6667743
>Venezuela doesn't have a socialist economy, 70% of their GDP comes from the private sector
If 90-100% of their economy was controlled by the public sector they would be far worse off.

Please explain how people there would be thriving?
They would be living like Cubans do and try to escape the country for a better life.

>>6669890
dont just send your eth address we need a heart wrenching story. we wanna feel. we pay to feel mother fucker. if i want to give money away for no feels i'd pay my phone bill.

>the goverment discovers anon has an btc and seized by the police

>>6664383
>$25 for 4 months minimum wage
Holy fuck I just literally blew a years wage on trading fees then

>>6668181
>pic
>successful socialist countries
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
They were literally all failures with living standards much worse than the west.

>>6669823
Hahahaha dude it’s $10.

>>6669823
g8 b8 m8

>>6667743
>let me tell you about your country

>>6669792
You can live like a fucking king with $12k a year, but it can be fucking deadly. I live in a pretty comfy zone of what used to be a middle class zone and I can tell you that even here robberies are fucking insane, just this week there have been like 5 roberies a couple of blocks from here, and you know what they rob? Fucking food man, I can't fucking imagine how it's gonna be when inflation keeps rising, you won't even be safe in your own house, and if you kill a robber you go striaght to jail which is literally hell on earth, you can watch some webms in rekt threads on /gif/ of decapitations, mutilations, cannibalism, a lot of those are from here.

Oh and if you spend too much money on security you can become a easy target because you're showing off too much. I literally pretend I'm poor so I can be more safe. There have been killings and robberies even in the safest houses with cameras, electrified wire and big ass walls.

You know about South Africa farmer murders? Well, Venezuela is kind of like that mixed with Zimbawe on steroids. But yeah, if you're willing to take the risk you can even find child prostiutes in the middle of the day.

this is a de facto begging thread in violation of the board rules

>>6669720
Thank you a lot of people have recommended Uruguay as well. I have a few options.

>>6669792
You probably have the money but is not really safe. Safest parts are in the "los andes" area, Merida and Tachira. The coast is pretty insecure.

>>6669803
Well you can check localbitcoins, the volume for venezuelan operations is quite high. People are learning more and now with the Petro thing it has reached major audiences. It will get bigger this year. And honestly no, nobody likes the president. He's an asshole.

>>6669819
Thank you anon. PFR is payfair? I lol'd at the chicken part. Thank you.

>>6669885
One of my best friends is in florida now. Good luck man.

>>6669921
>YS AUTHOR IS A LITERAL MAOIST AND TRULY BELIEVES IN OUR CULT EVEN THOUGH HIS WORKS INVOLVE HOW OPPRESSIVE GOVERNMENTS CAN BE

This is what literal manbabby marxist children who have failed in every aspect of their lives actually believe

Anime is bourgeois propaganda and it's fucking awesome.
kys

>>6669753

this is a de facto begging thread in violation of the board rules.

Sorry for asking you about polítics but, what is Maduro endgame?

Is it true his group won the elections again? Is it not rigged?

Is it true that China and Russia Will tales control?

How close do you think is a civil war right now?

Bless from Chile.

FUCK SOCIALISM

>>6669936
I recently found this website, these are by far the most expensive prostitutes I've seen in this country, and even like that it's really cheap for any American, like $80. Those are mostly students from private universities and it's the best you can find. But it's also a

>>6669833
>implying /biz/ and /pol/ aren't the same thing

>>6669900
>You're falling apart now.
Says the guy who refuses believe neoliberalism (the dominate economic force for the past 100 years) doesn't exist. lmao

>socialists want to abolish MARKETS.
>he doesn't know about market socalism
>he thinks markets are exclusive to capitalism
>he thinks markets defines economic systems
R E A D A B O O K

>https://www.thisischile.cl/chile-has-the-best-standard-of-living-in-latin-america/?lang=en
I asked for a source defending this assertion:
>because they kept most of Pinochet's reforms
try again faggot

>I never understood this shit lmao
Yeah, Pinochet was a gud boi he dindu nuffin

>Also how would workers taking over the means of production magically increase my living standards if the working class already consumes 99% of the consumer goods they produce?

Because 10% of the population owns half the world's wealth you fucking idiot lol. Go read Marx, oh wait you're delusional brainlet, try pic related.

you trade this for PFR or whatever... goodluck.
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x50bf98cca979062f593046ad834c1a92e3f9c8bb5ac755999ab07945847e7567

>>6668808
Daily reminder that communists unironically defend North Korea(yes, really) and expect to be taken seriously.

>>6669932
I'm not defending Venezuela's government you strawman faggot, I'm explaining to you why their economy is bad. Again, go fucking read a book https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhwIdIiYPQM

>>6667252

DESU with that description girls will like you no matter what country in latin america you go to. Especially if you have like green/blue or even hazel eyes.

>>6668181
Get the fuck out of crypto, commie bastard.
Die poor

>>6669945
Look who's finally admitting Venezuela's economy is capitalist. lol

>>6670081
Dude ur portfolio is now better diversified than mine xD good to see it though

This is actually a stacked portfolio!

/biz/ did something for once!

Good luck Anon. I am too from Venezuela, I started last year with $2k, now I am at $125k hoping to reach $500k to leave to somewhere in the eu with my family.

>>6670165
>socialists want to abolish MARKETS.
>he doesn't know about market socalism
>he thinks markets are exclusive to capitalism
>he thinks markets defines economic systems
>R E A D A B O O K

>he thinks capitalism is an economic system
>tells others to read a book

>>6669890
I have no idea why you would buy some coin an exchange put out to cover their asses when they got hacked.

Do more research plz anon.

I love you.

>>6670138
My connection is so shitty that my ID constalty changes, but I've been trying to BTFO commies in this thread since it started. I can ask all your questions about Venezuela.

Maduro doesn't give a fuck if people starve or die from diseases, they just want power and money, and will make things for people to be kind of happy from time to time even if it affects them in the long term.

>Is it true his group won the elections again? Is it not rigged?

Yeah, at this point is obvious that it's rigged, they completely controlled the electoral system, the president of the electoral system literally was present in Chavez funeral wearing an arm band associated with Chavistas.

>Is it true that China and Russia Will tales control?

They've been taking control of some refineries that were completely destroyed by lack of goverment funding, not because they couldn't spend money on them but because they prefer to steal everything, they have stole literally thousands of BILLIONS. you can't literally write those numbers.

>How close do you think is a civil war right now?

People are afraid in their homes, the goverment has all the weapons, it's almost impossible to have a weapon here and if you do have one and use it against a robber for example you go to jail for life. Even the opposition was in favor of weapon control. We are hopeless, the only thing we can do at this point is to get out. Remember this post when you hear in April that Maduro won the election by a landslide because he will.

>Bless from Chile.

Dude I love your fucking country, it is my primary option to go there.

>>6665632
Orrrr if you apply market anal to this situation you could move to Venezuela and “buy low” on op mom, his land, etc.

His whole country is a shitcoin.

So when is Maduro getting murdered?

Venezuela will moon when it happens

>>6670164
Sorry I forgot the link

http://www.modelosvip.com.ve

>>6670184
Thank you anon, you are very generous. Wish you the best.

>>6670366
Wow man, I'd go crazy with such gains. Wish you the best as well.

Thank you all really. This has been insane.

>>6667252

Completely honest with you, I'd replace Peru for Brazil. Colombia, Argentina, Venezuela (don't go to venezuela for tourism tho, I'm serious. I've heard of people that go cause it's cheap but they never come back) and Brazil are known for having beautiful women. You can't go wrong with those countries. Peru however...everyone looks native and no offense but people tend to be ugly there, if you're into that then peru is an option. I personally prefer the countries I mentioned cause they look less native, and therefore I find them hotter.

vente a peru o chile pes broder. la vida esta buena aca y facil.

>>6669954
>Be a Venezuelan poorfag
>Wagecucking just depress me
>Actually basic salary worth 3$ monthly
>Months tracking de Crypto market
>Very risky, be sceptical
>Start selling useless shit of my house
>K, 20$ to start in November
>Actually 144$

I'm waiting to cash out 4000$ to leave this shithole called Venezuela

>>6665116

dude, im so glad you are better, venezuela is a shithole

i know the feeling of having an empty fridge it is horrible, i wish the best for you

>>6670254
Hey i have an idea here
Go live in one of the socialist "paradises" left
It seems like you know how to make it work
It wouldn't be possible all of them have bad economies right?, there must be one, after all, the US is not the only world power.

>>6670366
x 60, nice man. Im only x 40 :) Try visiting Poland!
U won;t leave sober and hungry :)

>>6670165
>ays the guy who refuses believe neoliberalism (the dominate economic force for the past 100 years)
LOL Neoliberalism is a vague useless way to describe the current global economy.
New liberalism, really?
We haven't had anything resembling liberalism. How is massive government control over the economy, and central banking liberal at all?

>>he doesn't know about market socalism
I literally just told you about market socialism you gigantic fucking idiot lol
Learn to fucking read, I know commies have a hard time doing that.

>>he thinks markets are exclusive to capitalism
I just fucking told you
"except market socialists which are rare"
Holy shit what a dumb motherfucker you are
Face it 90% of socialists want to abolish markets completely. That big thread on /r/latecapitalism that was posted here showed that they really hate cryptocurrency.
>R E A D A B O O K
Commies don't know how to read.

>I asked for a source
United Nations HDI report
>try again faggot
But they literally did look at their pension system and banking system, socialism is a failure in south america.

>Pinochet was a gud boi he dindu nuffin
Chileans have the highest living standard in SA so I'd say you're wrong.

>Because 10% of the population owns half the world's wealth
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Holy shit you drooling retard.
You actually think wealth == consumable goods.
You have no idea what wealth even is.
Explain to me how the workers would benefit from taking this "wealth"? They wouldn't.
The working class already consumes 99% of all consumer goods.
Taking this wealth would only cause massive inflation, resources are scarce and the working class is already consuming 99% of the end product of production.
LOL You can't even fucking refute this.
>Go read Marx
Marx has been debunked numerous times and contradicts himself.
Marxists don't even believe in human biological instincts for fuck sakes. They actually believe all human behavior is the result of economic forces. How retarded is that?
kys

>>6670366
yeah sure pajeet, nobody on their right mind would still be living in venezuela with 125k

>>6670525
confirmed non-larp
/mod

>>6670525
Hold on dude, Venezuelan here. I'm also just starting, hope you can get out.

>>6670486
Is it very retarded of me as white Eurofag to go to mexico for tourist trip?

>>6670003
AHAHAHAHAHAHA THIS BRAINLET IS HISTORICALLY ILLITERATE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIddCEBCKHQ

>MUH' LIVING STANRDS
https://youtu.be/2HwFOo5rbZA?t=166


>>6670034
>let me tell you about THIS non-argument

>>6668670
>capitalism with taxes
How could capitalism, which is all about defending individual private property, could be pro-taxes(theft of private property for collectivism)?
As I already said: leave Trumpland and fucking move to Venezuela, hypocrite bastard. It's easy to talk about socialism, when you're thousand of miles away from it.

>>6670254
>it's bad because it isn't socialist enough
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>6670302
According to strict marxist definitions, the USSR and maoist China isn't socialist because they still had some market activity.

Also you didn't answer why question, how would they be better off if the government controlled almost all industry?
They would be MUCH worse off and you know it you slimy liar.

>>6670603
>Socialism has worked
>Chile

I hope you never get to life the hell that is socialism/communism, you stupid faggot.

>>6668670
there's no hands of the workers, it's all euphemism for putting the 'means of production' in the hands of syndicalists, government, and history undergrads who know fuck all about economics.

>>6670651
live*

>>6667350

DESU venezuelans are hated through out all of latin america because of the mass immigration and I'm not fucking kidding. The countries were not prepared for the huge amount of people coming in and it's literally affecting everyone.

I get them, I would do the same, and I do feel bad for them (I actually don't judge them cause I'd 100% do the same thing) but it's true that most countries are becoming xenophobic if they aren't already so.

Visited Colombia a few months back, I'm a caribbean fag, they kept asking if I was venezuelan with dirty looks cause of the caribbean accent (for them it sounded venezuelan for some reason, idk) , the second I told them I wasn't they'd be like "then we're cool bro"

Anon, if you're gonna go to some other country I honestly encourage you to drop that accent ASAP. Best of luck, brother.

>>6670483

I swing traded my way up to $30k losing chunks at times so I took a very risky route, then moved to ripple, rode it up a bit, then went all into XLM and that's what I am on right now. If I hadn't took the risky swing trading route I would probably be at like $10k tops right now, but I could also have lost everything if I wasn't lucky...

Anyway...

>>6668048
>london council estates

>>6670603
>POSTS A XEXIXY VIDEO
AHAHAHAHHAHAHA
>OF COUNTRIES THAT WERE AUTHORITARIAN SHITHOLES WITH LOW LIVING STANDARDS
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
>TO CLAIM AS SUCCESSFUL SOCIALIST COUNTRIES
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>image
lmao holy fuck are you actually defending the USSR where countless peasants were murdered and those that survived were forced to live in an authoritarian shithole where most of the production was spent on MILITARY goods?
People in USSR had much lower living standards compared with the typical western euro country.
What a shithole. Why the fuck would anyone want to live there?
Also if the Tsar was kept in place, eventually he would have died off and the government his children would have developed would resemble a parliamentary monarchy like which happened to the REST of europe and Russians would have much higher living standards today.
Socialism destroyed Russia, they are economically unfree even to this day and they have much lower living standards than your average more economically free euro country.

You people are subhuman violent animals that need to be exterminated.

>https://youtu.be/2HwFOo5rbZA?t=166
Some gay youtube video by that Zeitgeist guy.
Holy shit anon lol

>>6670429
You need to try before march, when Piñera Will be the president. Right now inmigration laws are more flexible, a Lot of people from Haití has come for exploited policies. If you do it soon you Will be ready for the next economic boom.

Move anon. Fast. Good Luck.

>>6670731
same story with Ukrainians flooding to other countries, especially into Poland. ppl feel bad for them, would do the same, but it starts to be kinda annoying now and ppl slowly start to treat them like intruders

>>6667665
have fun getting kidnapped and killed for it then. Do not recommend. Go to some other latin shithole less dangerous...or maybe some shitty asian country?

>>6664383

fellow Venezuelan in America here. Was lucky enough to be born in the US, become proficient with computers and establish a good life for myself. Most of my family in Venezuela has already left and I feel for the ones still there. Sent you some ETH as a reminder that were gonna make it.

Why do communist manchildren ALWAYS get btfo desu? They never have any actual arguments and ignore whatever you are saying.

Kill em all

>>6670603
>anon literally says that his family can’t afford food due to hiperinflation
>people starving to death due to all the exchange controls and expropriations that brought a railroad of corruption
>hurt durr you don’t know what you are talking about

Kill yourself communism scum

>>6670927
Communists truly need to be helicoper'd

>>6670567
>LOL Neoliberalism is a vague useless way to describe the current global economy
Just because you don't know what neoliberalism is doesn't mean it's useless you brainlet.

>I literally just told you about market socialism
No you literally said:
>socialists want to abolish MARKETS.
Which is UNTRUE

>Commies don't know how to read.
You don't even know what neoliberalism means LMAO

>United Nations HDI report
Again, I asked for a source showing how Pinochet saved Chile's economy

>But they literally did look at their pension system and banking system, socialism is a failure in south america.
Explains and provide sources for anything you've said here.

>Chileans have the highest living standard in SA so I'd say you're wrong.
Was that because of Pinochet?

>You actually think wealth == consumable goods.
No, I'm saying consumable goods is literally fucking irrelevant topic of discussion and you couldn't pick up on that because you're autistic.

>Marx has been debunked numerous times and contradicts himself.
Explain why in your own words then brainlet. Pic related, empirical evidence for market socialism using Marx's labour vouchers .

>>6670762
Risky but you took it and it went well. Bonita bombona. De que parte eres?

>>6670882
Hey man, thanks a lot. I hope we all make it indeed and good luck for you and your family.

>>6670731
When Colombia was in trouble a couple of decades ago, same happened in Venezuela. I think this always happens in SA with mass immigration

>>6670982
Kill yourself commie, you're embarrasing yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxaIanx6z88

>>6670856
Young people leaving means the resistance is even weaker, so the country only gets worse. Wouldn't be surprised if this dictatorship lasted 20+ years.

>>6670466
Thanks to the low food supply, there is ZERO chance to get a chubby escort.

>>6670631
read >>6668181

>>6670651
I know you're clueless on Chilian history, you don't have to post pics of yourself

>>6670827
>these non-arguments
XD

>>6670603
KYS

Leftist fag here, just sent 0,097 eht :----DDD

>>6665116
Saludos desde Colombia hermano venezolano. we are all gonna make it :')

>>6671035
>>6671129
you first pinocuck

>>6670731
They deserve we are going, for almost two decades they have been passive with Chavez and Maduro, and more of their politicians were bought off with petrodollars, such is the case still with most of the Caribbeans, so if anyone is also to blame here is our neighbors governments exterior policy’s

>>6671073
Kek, yeah, it's pretty rare but you can find some. Here's another one, they're far cheaper, like $5-10

http://www.sexycaracas.com

>>6671044
All socialists dictatorship first act is to take the guns away from the people, and you know why? So they will never be able to fight back. The fouding fathers were damn right when they wrote the constitution.

>>6671167
This is true. I'm Venezuelan but you can safely say Venezuelans are to blame for what they're living. I'm not because I'm only 21 years old and I was a fucking baby when Chavez took power and when I could vote Maduro was already in power.

>>6671151
Thank you Spurdo friend. My best wishes.

>>6670982
KYS commie scum

>>6671167
lol the neighbors are at fault for venezuelans voting for a socialist moron for two decades?

>>6670982
>Just because you don't know what neoliberalism is
lol oh boy don't fucking try to pull that shit.
I know exactly what it is.
A leftist strawman argument.
I asked you to explain what is "liberal" about massive government interventionism and central banks dominating the entire banking industry and thus the economy.
You couldn't answer this. You lost you drooling failure.
>Which is UNTRUE
Okay, 90-95% of socialists want to abolish markets and believe market socialists are entirely wrong and traitors.
Why even bother including market socialists. Statistically if you are a socialist you are going to be an anti-market socialist.
You claimed I didn't even know what market socialism was when I fucking TOLD you about it.
Holy shit you're dumb as rocks.
>You don't even know what neoliberalism means
You don't even know what central banking mean LMAO
You don't even know what a strawman argument is LMAO
>Again, I asked for a source showing how Pinochet saved Chile's economy
I said Chile is much better for having Chile now because they have the highest living standards in South America
Here stupid: http://hdr.undp.org/en/countries/profiles/CHL
The rest of SA is either socialist or a cruel mix of socialism and capitalism.
Without pinochet they wouldn't be this well off.

>Was that because of Pinochet?
Seeing how Chile has the highest levels of economic freedom in SA and has had for some time.
YES
https://www.heritage.org/index/country/chile

>No, I'm saying consumable goods is literally fucking irrelevant topic of discussion
LOL AHAHAHAHAHA
It's exactly what we were fucking talking about you brainlet

I said:
"how would workers taking over the means of production magically increase my living standards"
and you said 1% owns 99% of all of the wealth
Then I explained how taking their wealth will not improve their living standards because they wouldn't have more resources AT ALL. They also wouldn't be able to work fewer hours.
You're wrong and you cannot refute this.

>>6671092
Answer

Isn’t Venezuela in hyperinflation?

Haven’t exchange controls brought corruption in all levels of the state?

Aren’t all national industries worthless compared to a couple decades ago?

Have any expropriated industry given good financial results?

Seriously commie, kill yourself

>>6664383
We are over the post limit but we can't let this die.
Please OP make a new thread.

>>6670927
>anon literally says that his family can’t afford food due to hiperinflation
>people starving to death due to all the exchange controls and expropriations that brought a railroad of corruption
>hurr derr US imperalism has nothing to do with Venezuela's economic downturn, it's the big bad democratically elected socialists who are actually doing capitalist soc.dem policies whose at fault here.
>OP is literally from Brazil, but no one gives shit what ideology their government has because they're capitalist so it's ok

Go exploit yourself classcuck

>>6670466
holy momma nice chickas
>>6671306
I can't believe it but I read all of this xDD

>>6670982
>Explain why in your own words
I already explained the consumer goods/surplus value argument, the human instincts argument.
Also marxist believed you needed to create the most authoritarian state ever and then the state would magically somehow disappear.
This makes absolutely no sense.

>labour vouchers .
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Every single time I hear this I can't stop fucking laughing.
I read the comments section on cuckizxizy's videos and they keep debating over whether it's money or not.

>market socialism
LOL even if you had market socialism and pretending it actually worked(it doesn't), you would still work the same amount of hours and have the same about of goods/living standards