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SHIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET

> China plans to kill most of the world’s bitcoin mining operations
> The Chinese government will end bitcoin mining operations in the coming months, Bloomberg reported over the weekend, a move that could have a massive impact on the price of the world’s biggest digital currency.
https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/59w5eb/china-is-about-to-kill-nearly-all-bitcoin-mining-operations-in-the-world?utm_source=vicenewsfb

This is why the cryptomarket is crashing today, isn't it /biz/?

>> No.6111778

Wouldn't that make the value go up?

>> No.6111785

>>6111689
only big meme coins are crashing.

>> No.6111803

>>6111778
my tough exactly

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1/2

>> No.6111827

>>6111689
China bans Bitcoin?

>> No.6111834

Buy dent, sell at moon reinvest into cloud mining when difficulty plummets do you even know what the fuck you're talking about ?

>> No.6111889

>>6111689
They have internet and electricity in other countries too. The void will be filled immediately by other miners that are not in China. Japan is going to have a big year if this happens.

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>>6111825
Are you fucking kidding me?

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2/2

It's real. Now what?

>> No.6111931

there are anons who still haven’t bought NEO

>> No.6111949

>>6111825
>>6111912
i dont speak chopstick some one translate this shit

>> No.6111958

This is going to add to btc value because less people mining = less people dumping.

Also it is going to be more decentralized

>> No.6111962

>>6111912
Hold btc until correction

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6111988

>vice
Nice memed

>> No.6112000

>>6111912
doesn't the difficulty automatically adjust based on total processing power?

>> No.6112022

So they can mine ethereum and bitcoin cash?

>> No.6112025

>>6112000
This anon gets it. The rest are retarded.

>> No.6112051

crashing?

this would be the most bullish news in bitcoin for YEARS. getting rid of the chinks would cure so many of bitcoin's fundamental problems.

>> No.6112063

>>6111803

probably not. loss of massive hashing power isn't going to make BTC appear more likely to succeed.

>> No.6112069

>>6111689
>>6111958
wouldn't this bring the btc network to total halt i.e. useless?

>> No.6112077

>>6111689

Haven't they banned it already some months ago?

>> No.6112078

>>6112000
This may be a move in favor of Bitcoin Cash, as Bitcoin takes a week or so to readjust

>> No.6112088

>>6111958
>This is going to add to btc value because less people mining = less people dumping.
>Also it is going to be more decentralized

LOL You are a silly pig: the People's Republic of China will take control over all the mining equipment. It's all over Sina Weibo and Renren, fucking read.

>> No.6112100

>>6111912
now we have a chance to mine btc again. All good!

>> No.6112106

>>6111958
Or make it go down as trust in the currency is lost after the biggest market is gone.

>> No.6112119

>all mining moves to India
>pajeet now works the mines in between shilling BZC
Hopefully he won't have as much time to shill while he's replacing burnt out GPUs.
>GPU prices plummet for the short period when Chinks sell off their rigs
YES

>> No.6112165

>>6112000
BCH does every block.
BTC does every 2016 blocks (~2weeks)

Bcore is gonna go permafrost

>> No.6112168

>>6112078
possibly but how is this readjustment period calculated?

>> No.6112250

>>6111949
BTV miners are facing life in prison or even public execution in severe cases, for personal enrichment by unauthorized currencies which undermines the People's Republic of China.
They ain't fucking around, man.

>> No.6112289

time to start wake up the gpu

>> No.6112292

>>6111825
Translated. Maybe I’m retarded, but I I don’t really make much of it

Autonomous Region Commission by letter: It is understood that there are currently some so-called "mining" enterprises that produce "virtual currency" in Xinjiang. This consumes a large amount of resources and at the same time encourages the speculative speculation of "virtual currency." According to the National Financial Work Conference on Preventing Risk, Restrictions on the Economic Needs of Partial-Realities and the Avoidance of Supervision The relevant member units of the leading group for the special rectification of financial risks in the Internet convened relevant provincial and municipal remediation offices on November 20, 2017 and discussed relevant issues and formed the disposal opinions . In order to timely guard against relevant risks, in accordance with the requirements of the Circular of the State Council on Renewal of Internet Financial Risks (Xinzhengfa 2016 [2016] No.73), you are required to actively take relevant measures to guide the jurisdiction Enterprises within the orderly exit the "mining" business. At the same time to grasp the progress of work. Please your unit before the 5th of each month the basic situation of Xinjiang "mining" enterprises (see the table) and lead the withdrawal submitted to me to do (January report and report please submit before January 8, 2018). Contact: Han Ying, Zhang Qibin Tel: 2373158,13899860976,13579678981 E-mail: 282657882Bag, com Attachment: engaged in "mining" business-specific summary of the situation

>> No.6112296

>>6112250
>BTV
*BTC, who woulda thunk

>> No.6112322

>>6112069
the difficulty will be adjusted accordingly automatically

>> No.6112361

>>6112250
chinese btc miners need a coup d'etat

>> No.6112400

>>6112250
damn. i thought chinks were the ones pushing all this blockchain mania
what about other crypto currencies?
is this the end broddas?

>> No.6112509

>>6112292
Triads will be having a "chat" with this Han

>> No.6112516

>>6111689

BURST folks... BURST.

>> No.6112629

lmfao they made all their money, now they are pissing and running. literally Bitcoin = SCAMcoin all along

>> No.6112668

>>6112292
If this is real then bitcoin cash is fucked. This is talking about all mining not just BTC. Bitcoin is distributed enough to deal with losing the Chinese mining pools. Bitcoin cash is predominately Chinese mining, and will be absolutely crushed if Chinese operations shut down

>> No.6112736

>>6111778
No, bitcoin transaction fees will go up 70% when it's already at $30. It will basically be impossible to use without Chinese miners. Although it miners will probably fill the void in other countries but I expect it to drop at least temporarily.

>> No.6112834

>>6112668
>Bitcoin is distributed enough to deal with losing the Chinese mining pools
70% of bitcoin miners are in China.
>>6112322
>>6112000
Nope, only updated every 2016 blocks

>> No.6112869

>>6112077
No if I remember correctly it was only a warhouse or a company that was banned. Someshit shitty in the end, not a real news.

>> No.6112915

I wish we could inoculate the crypto market from these fucking mercurial chinks.

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>>6112834
so what's like the best case scenario?
btc dies and alts finally rise or is this the end game?

>> No.6112947

>>6111689
It won't change any shit. They will just moved the whole operation to vietnam or other cheap low cost energy countries.

>> No.6112971

>>6112292
Doesn’t mention bitcoin specifically but all mining.

>> No.6112985

>>6112736
Nope. More miners doesn't make the transactions faster, in fact it's quite the opposite.

If the chinks fuck off it's good for that piece of shit BTC

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6113174

XRB
Doesn't require mining

>> No.6113181

>>6112078
Bch mining is almost entirely based in China. Bch will be fucked more than bitcoin.

>> No.6113182

>>6112985
>less processing power with same difficulty = faster
You're a moron.
>>6112931
Bitcoin becomes unusable until difficulty adjusts, normalfags all panic sell out of the market. Ethererum replaces bitcoin and all goes back to normal eventually.

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>>6111689
>chinese government wants to ban bitcoin mining
in other news, communists are utterly fucking economically retarded
this doesn't surprise me, and yet, i can't believe it
they have the opportunity to become one of the undisputed world fucking champions in a natural growth of actual wealth—and they opt to remain a corrupt establishment run on shit fiat, exploiting the fear that they've instilled into every one of their citizens so that they can quickly get their way

this is probably going to put somewhat of a stunting spell on bitcoin cash's growth, for the time being; jihan wu is gonna have to do something about this, somehow
what an ungodly pack of idiots in that government
like, holy fuck

>> No.6113345

>>6113182
>You're a moron.
Says somebody who's pulling shit out of his ass as facts without having the slightest idea how bitcoin difficulty works

>> No.6113445

>>6113182
How are you supposed to sell when the network is pretty much at a stand still?

>> No.6113511

Neo new king

>> No.6113534

>>6112931

"Ïnvest in anything that China bans" is an old saying that will apply again.

Buy the dip.

The network will suffer short term, but the reason mining is so concentrated in China is because the took over the market for cheap and it wasn't profitable to mine. This would actually open the gate for mining operations everywhere else.

>> No.6113624

>>6113182
ETH replaces BTC? lol no.

XRP replaces BTC in that scenario

>> No.6113646

>the biggest currency manipulators in the world don't like bitcoin

what a shock

>> No.6113680 [DELETED] 

>>6111689
that's great fucking news! no more thread from chink fucking with the network - more security for western investors, no more bear markets because china bans 'x', no more chink sell walls (once this is all over) and best of all - increase of price because hash power down.

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>>6113345

>> No.6113753
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>>6113345
yep pulled it out my ass. if you know more about the bitcoin than the bitcoin wiki maybe you should make your own cryptocurrency.

>> No.6113770

>>6113182
>>less processing power with same difficulty = faster
They adjust the difficulty you absolute fucking retard
Lower difficulty = less power required to mine with same reward = greater mining reward = less fees

>> No.6113784

>>6113624
why? isn't xrp single purpose?

>> No.6113843

>>6113345
You don't have the slightest clue about mining brainlet. If the hash rate crashes it doesn't get faster, it gets slower.

>> No.6113849

>>6112931
When BTC dies, the altcoin market will follow it downwards the first 24 hours or so. Then you'll see a massive injection of much of BTCs marketcap into the remaining top 100 mcaps.

You'll want to sell when you see half your portfolio vanishing in less than 24 hours, but don't. Unless you're holding the shittiest of shitcoins, they'll receive a massive injection of capital.

Bitcorn needs to fucking die.

>> No.6113862

that would actually be a good thing for BTC.
Fees will go to earth´s core.

>> No.6113865

>>6113753
So, you DO admit that the difficulty scales down when miners go offline? Sure it takes a while but it's not gonna kill btc

>>6113745
just no

>> No.6113871

>>6113784

XRP doesn't need to be mined

>> No.6113902

>>6113843
>hur hur wat is difficulty adjustment
Do you think BTC was designed to require Chinese mining farms from the get-go?

>> No.6113925

>>6111689
I don't understand how does less supply of a product pulls the price down? Usually if something is rare - it's worth more.

>> No.6113930

>>6113865
Are you retarded? It scales down every 2016 blocks. But if the hash rate is so low, those 2016 blocks could take a ton of time to be found.

Of course, all this could be resolved with a software update like Bitcoin Cash did.

>> No.6113979

>>6113902
Strawman. You know that I'm right.

>> No.6113982

>>6113930
That's a problem only if the chinks go out just as the difficulty has adjusted

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>>6111689
>China stops giving preference for miners.
>Burgers combine their Bitcoin to open solar-powered mining facility in New Mexico.
>US becomes new mining superpower

You have one chance not to fuck this up burger-bros.

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6113993

>>6113770
>>6113865
It would take 2 weeks for the adjust difficulty WITH Chinese miners. Without them it takes even fucking longer.

>> No.6113994

>>6113329
oh yeah and
>waste of resources
jesus christ almighty these fucking bonglord dipsharts—YES, IT USES RESOURCES AND LOTS AND LOTS OF COMPUTERS AND TAKES LOTS OF TIME, HORY RORY, WHY DO YOU THINK IT'S WORTH AS MUCH AS IT IS

though, knowing these people, and to reiterate, they are completely corrupt; they're likely doing this just to hold onto control of their economy through worthless fiat
can't say that it's not the /right/ move to make if your motive is control, but if your motive is to maintain this level of control, then you're a jackass

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top kek

Bitmain are a bunch of geniuses, I'm sure they are prepared to deal with this situation. They'l simply more 200km north to Mongolia.

>> No.6114035

>>6113982
Of course, but since you can't predict when they will go offline it's a scenario you have to account for.

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>>6111689

> Bitcoin crashes

> Flippening with certain Chinese POS coin made inevitable

>> No.6114108

>>6113993
2 weeks is nothing

>> No.6114132

If the Chinese stop mining, then mining becomes a lot more profitable.

>> No.6114150

>>6113930
GET OUT

>> No.6114171

>>6111689
nice, just bought 100k

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6114212

tf when i made some juicy gainz of all of this blockcorn thing and still don't understand one single thing about the technical details

>> No.6114222

>>6112165

When miners move to BCH, BCH's difficulty rapidly adjusts upwards and equilibrium is maintained. This is not just obvious in theory, but observable in fact.

>> No.6114303

>>6114108
>3.5 weeks of $200 transfer fees and 10 hour transaction times is nothing
lol k

>> No.6114328

>>6113982
You guys are all idiots. You think if china bans this all of a sudden everyone is going to drop their shit instantly and comply?

At worst it'll gradually drop, but if even half of the chinafags drop instantly, there's more incentive for the others to continue. Then 2016 blocks is like 8 weeks? Maybe even 16, who cares. After that it'll get re-balanced and everything will go back to normal.

But instead of a hard drop all at once, its way more likely it'll just gradually go down

>> No.6114383

>>6114303
10 hours is a gross exaggeration.

So the mempool will increase a little further. Who cares? People have already proven not to give a fuck about it.

>> No.6114419

>>6114328
Can't they just manually reset the difficulty level? There is no way they will just paralyze the system for maybe months.

>> No.6114420

>>6114303
Without chinks to fuck around and play games the mempool won't be congested
Btc only costs like $7 to transfer in under and hour currently
Stop pulling random exaggerated numbers out your ass

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6114482

>tfw china bans crypto and the large centralized mining groups dissolve
>smaller rogue mining groups pop up all around china to take advantage of the electricity costs
>the hashrate is now more decentralized

>> No.6114492

>>6111689
Looks like the Chinks are up to no good again trying to throw a wrench in the market, I hope you realized by now that this is how China manipulates you.

>> No.6114498

>>6114328
It'll just move to India/Bangladesh. The same things happening with their physical markets, Chinese labour is becoming in demand which is driving the price of their goods up which means India/Bangladesh are filling the Chinese cheap labour void. They'll also fill the mining void.

>> No.6114583

>>6112069
It depends on what's the shutdown period.
If 70% of hash power were to disappear overnight, then at worst it would take 6 weeks for difficulty to go down. During that time capacity would be reduced 3x.

Which means a >$500 fee for a simple transaction.

>> No.6114623

rofl. do you guys realize what this means?

it means that cloud mining is gonna get 3x as profitable. GET IN

>> No.6114625

>>6114482
A spike of electricity usage will most likely not be ignored.

>> No.6114641

>>6112165
>China bans Bitcoin
>China is not banning bcash
On that alone you're fucking retarded.

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6114647

As much as I hate that god damn fidget spinner, it might be time to go in on cripple. This will rape BCH to death and shitcan BTC transactions long enough to cause normies to panic sell into something else, and the media's been shilling XRP as the new bitcoin.

>> No.6114666

ETH will flip BTC within the month.

>> No.6114680

>>6114647
relax, nothing has happend yet.

>> No.6114723

>>6111689

>ban bitcoin mining
>redistribute all that mining power to their upcoming AI village
>Deep Brain Chain x 100 EOY

comfy_af_001.tiff

>> No.6114730

>>6114641
If china got rid of Bcash miners it wouldn't matter because is not a garbage coin that only adjusts it's difficulty every 2016 blocks.

>> No.6114750

>>6113849
I agree. The only reasons bitchcoin is still around is because 1) its been co-opted via Blockstream, and 2) its name is synonymous with crypto so a lot of new money enters them market either through or into bitcoin. There are other projects that do what bitcoin does and do it better. Bitcoins death will be like trimming a bush; traumatic for a moment, but new growth will eventually occur

>> No.6114751

>>6114680
Nothing is going to happen either
China is the fud extradonaire... get ready to buy the dip

>> No.6114795

>>6113445
Someone's using their brain.

>> No.6114797

>>6114750
Delusional newcoiners who think they know shit bout the market... Lmao

>> No.6114860

>>6114730
Sure if you ignore facts I guess.

>> No.6114992

should I cash out my alts for ETH right now? Everything seems to be dipping due to the BTC dip, except for ethereum

>> No.6115009

>>6114750
Statistically speaking you'll eat your words just like every other moron who bet against the crypto currency.

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>>6114419
>Can't they just manually reset the difficulty level?
No. That's the whole point of crypto.

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>>6114666
>he doesn't know about FairX and XLM
Fucking perma-sub-orbitals

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>>6114419

>> No.6115094

>>6113174
In

Nonminable coins will be the coins of 2019

>> No.6115118

>>6111689
>China miners rich as fuck..
>China miners go to Belarus
>Belarus becomes the new Crypto mining hub

Yeah I'm not that worried really.. if these miners really find it that profitable then shipping their miners to low electricity cost countries wouldn't be a huge bother.

>> No.6115150

>>6115013
>>6115088
This would be kind of an extraordinary situation.

>> No.6115177

Plus I can imagine anyone rich in China wants to GTFO anyway.. unless you're so conditioned by their states propaganda

>> No.6115191

>>6114860
please explain to us what facts I'm missing oh wise one. I'm only in my second year of computer science and I'm sure you have a masters degree.

>> No.6115211

>>6115177

rich Chinese hate China more than anyone else. They come to America just to marvel at how clean our air is. In China they literally buy mountain air in bottles.

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>China bans mining
>Hashpower drops like a rock
>takes FOREVER for difficulty to adjust
>Nobody can move coins because lol no blocks
>Market starts crashing
>people can't move coins to exchanges
>instead they move ethereum
>everyone sells ETH instead of BTC
>ETH skyrockets in price relative to sats and crashes to 0 relative to fiat

it's called the flippening because the value of cyrpto and fiat is going to flip.

>> No.6115264

>>6115094
Don't be too sure of that

>> No.6115269

>>6113849
your late adopter is showing. top 100 market caps? fucking get real. there arent even 10 decent coins around today, and most of them would lose all of their trading volume and capital if bitcoin "died"

sorry you're a late adopter but this kind of post-rationalization of the market is simply embarrassing.

>> No.6115313

>>6115264
Why? Makes total sense. It’s outdated tech and faces ban threats

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>>6111689
Btrash moonbois on suicide watch!

>> No.6115335

>>6115191
That 99.9% of bcash hash power is Chinese miners

>> No.6115360

>>6115263
ETH is also mined

>> No.6115412

>>6115360
different equipment and soon PoStake

>> No.6115420

time to go all in on doge

>> No.6115438

>>6115118
This. I can't believe with all the potential money to be made that someone wouldn't step up very quickly with a lot of capital.

>> No.6115440

>>6115211
Yeah I heard/saw that before. I'm not worried man, If mining is that profitable then you can just move your business somewhere else. I'm sure there are plenty of countries with cheap electricity who will welcome them cause it means an economic boost to their country.

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>>6111689

Vice is moralist bullshit shill publication.

Fuck what they say.

>> No.6115468

>china man bans mining
>core cucks are finally forced to do something about ridiculous transaction fees or face btc crashing
>btc is no longer a dinosaur

how is this a bad thing?

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>>6114419

>> No.6115488

>>6111906
kek

>> No.6115516

>>6115313
premined coins are fundamentally useless, in fact i'd say any new coin that's come out in the past 2 years is probably fundamentally useless as a means of transfer or store of value. the've all been premined to such a huge degree or most of the supply held by very few people that there is literally no incentive to use it for anything other than speculation.

the churn on shitcoins is so high because nobody is ever using them for their intended purpose. store of value absolutely cannot keep transfering from coin to coin because that fundamentally means nothing can be a store of value.

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>>6115263
Delet

>> No.6115524

>>6111689
>Less miners
>Less BTC flowing into markets
>Price increase of BTC

my body is ready for lamboland

>> No.6115536

>>6115360
>what is casper?

>> No.6115557

>>6112078
Bch, baka, are you all normies?

Lube up your asshole, DAGs are coming.

>> No.6115574

>>6115177
>>6115211

Do you understand how ignorant you sound? What is your opinion formed on? First hand accounts or information fed to you by your western media?

American propaganda is worse than Chinese because at least in China they don't try to hide it.

>> No.6115578

>>6115524
>Unusable BTC

>> No.6115634

>>6113174
The fucking future, Glad I'm holding like a champ.

I'm prepared to be a billionaire.

>> No.6115664

>>6115574
go away Justin Sun

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6115668

>>6115335
That doesn't matter because the difficulty adjusts every 10 minutes

>> No.6115670

>>6115574
anyone that is rich in china has been trying to get their money out of china for decades now. thats all you need to know.

>> No.6115677

>>6115574
Ignorant? Dude their air is one of the most polluted ones on this fucking earth.

>> No.6115725

>>6111689
What's the big deal? It's not like China has a monopoly on mining. Good news for the rest of the world.

>> No.6115727

>>6115668
it matters in the sense that if bitcoin "died" no bitcoin clone would be worth anything. chinks might try and prop up another sha256 coin, but who would be buying somehting being churned out that's now revealed to be fundamentally worthless?

>> No.6115738

This mean that NEO will be nr 1....and to the moon! $2500 EOY

>> No.6115739

>>6115574
Their economy sucks, their yuan sucks, their air sucks, their government sucks..

>> No.6115786

>>6111689
some anon unironically predicted that to happen today

>> No.6115801

>>6115738
chinkcoins are for china only. neo might see some use but only within china, no other country would be stupid enough to touch it.

>> No.6115813

>>6115516
ding ding ding, another idiot over here.

Is this what they tell you at BTC subreddit?

>> No.6115863

>>6111778
If half of the fucking mining power gets wiped off then mining should technically be easier, I think. I can't remember what makes mining rewards change. Also, fuck them and having over half of the world's network in one shitty country.

>> No.6115880

>>6115670
this anon is right

>>6115574
China thought they could use bitcoin mining to siphon money from the West. In reality, China is so fucked that many rich Chinese are dumping their artificially low value currency (which is an open secret btw) into currencies which appreciate in value. If Bitcoin and cryptos are part of the new Trade war against china get fucking ready boys

>> No.6115888

>>6115813
ding ding ding, another late adopter here.

>> No.6115907

>> 1. China bans bitcoin mining
>> 2. Bitcoin value drops
>> 3. China buys tons of bitcons at low fee
>> 4. Unbans bitcoin
>> 5. ????
>> 6. Profit!

>> No.6115915

>>6114132
if the chinese stop mining, then a good 20-30% of the reason behind bitcoin's valuation being as high as it is in the first place goes to the trash
more miners is literally more people with increasingly more valuable mining setups getting involved with the network—which means that everyone gets less bitcoin
HOWEVER, because most people are smart enough not to sell at a loss, they'll usually sell their smaller amount of bitcoin for at least the cost of mining, plus a decent amount more
in the case of bitcoin, as long as all the processing remains on-chain, then more miners = constantly better equipment, utilization of (investments in) product economies (computing) = higher difficulty = more valuable bitcoin

>> No.6115931

>>6115863
And that is why this isn't even necessarily a bad thing.. we need to get rid of shitty China in our ecosystem anyway. I don't mind Chinese but their government is a fucking pain

>> No.6115976

anybody even been to china?
thats just a piece of paper. they also said you can only have one child back in the day.
guess what percentage of this corrupt shithole actually followed the rules.
Nothing will happen.

>> No.6116014

>>6115907
Someone finally gets the game.

>> No.6116037

>>6112668
youre a brainwashed moron who fell for meme propaganda, both btc and bch mining is predominantly in china

>> No.6116113
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6116113

>>6111689
OH NOOOO, they are banning bitcoin again???
kek, it's just getting silly at this point.

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6116115

>>6115326
Lol why? You could remove all china miners from BCH TODAY and difficulty would adjust in 20 minutes and other BCH miners would simply become more profitable.
Network would be perfectly fine

>> No.6116155

>>6115915
you seem confused. mining doesn't give bitcoin it's value, miners mine bitcoin because they know they can sell them for X, or are betting in an effective futures market that the future price of bitcoin will be at least Y.

the whole bitcoin's value comes from the "security" of the network is a lie, probably propagated by the same people that want you to think that miners are looking out for the best interest of the coin.

>> No.6116190

NEO is the winner here.

>> No.6116261

>>6116113
Nice disinfo shilling: China never tried to ban Bitcoin exchanges, they just wanted to regulate them. This is a completely different story though, this is purely about controlling crypto mining because PoW uses A FUCKING LOT of electricity.

>b-buh this is good for Bitcoin, right??
No you fucking idiot, it's not.

>> No.6116270

>>6116190
And why?

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6116278

>>6116113
>Not posting the full version

>> No.6116310

>>6116037
bcash is significantly more centralized though, and has no interest (outside of the usual speculators) outside of china. nobody is interested in bothering with it other than those who are heavily influenced by the chinese miners and by extension the companies they are heavily invested in.

there's plenty of reasons to try and keep bitcoin afloat, but no good reasons to try and keep bch afloat.

>> No.6116329

>>6116270
There is no mining, they create GAS.

Chinerminers will buy up NEO and make GAS.

They need money and NEO gives them the perfect crypto.

>> No.6116375

>>6111689
>vice

>> No.6116379

>>6111689
Thats why we invest in Digibyte...nobody can just crash it like that, its protected by multiple technologies.

https://twitter.com/DigiByteCoin/status/950402693008248832

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6116459

>>6114498

>> No.6116547

>>6115468
>china bans mining
>this means chinks can no longer have a monopoly over the market, fucking moving their hashpower around and flooding mempools with low fee transactions
>bitcoin no longer has issues
who woulda thunk

>> No.6116588

>>6116547
getting the chinks out of cryptocurrency really is one of the most important long term survival goals.

>> No.6116634

>>6115516
Quality post thanks

>> No.6116685

>>6116310
>muh centralized
holy shit youre a brainwashed dronetard, miners mine whatever is profitable an thanks to bitcoins (cash) algorithm it will always be profitable enough for someone to mine it

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6116731

>>6114723

LMAO I was thinking the exact same thing. So /comfy/

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6116760

>>6111689

>> No.6116789

>>6113445
broken network unironically saves Bitcoin

>> No.6116793

Has anyone sold BTC to tethers on bittrex? I never tried doing it before but knowing things might not end up well id like to get out of bitcoin for the moment

>> No.6116806

>>6111689
Fuck miners, this is good news.

>> No.6116849

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.6116962

>>6112668
Exactly the opposite. BTC will be stuck with 2016 blocks rapidly increasing in time to mint, as the price crashes with people observing an 80 percent drop in already anaemic transaction throughput. If btc survives that 2016 blocks then it will continue, if not it may permanently die.

BCH will shrug and continue completely unaffected, because it difficulty adjusts every block. It will also increase the profits of non Chinese miners by 80 percent at a stroke. It will also increase the profits of miners as the final resolution of the long running bch btc war, one being now basically useless and very possibly dead, the other being better in every way and now more decentralised than ever before.

>> No.6116988

Fuck Binance just got taken offline. This is the end.

>> No.6117029

>>6111778
I think the implication, more than the mining, is that they are ramping up to heavily regulate bitcoin in China. In other words, ending mining won't hurt, but a government out to prohibit their citizens from participating in bitcoin will hurt the price a lot.

>> No.6117069

>>6116685
>brainwashed
i'm not the one fanboying over some chink forkcoin. quick difficulty adjustments is just a bandaid they added to stop the coin from dying immediately (which funnily enough goes completely against everything satoshi had designed bitcoin to be). it doesn't matter how quickly it adjusts if nobody outside of china is interested in using their sha256 miners to mine it.

you can't use the same arguments for bcash as you can bitcoin. bitcoin has a fundamental place in the entire market, and there are incredibly important incentives at play to prevent bitcoin from effectively dying. bcsh has no such incentives.

>> No.6117139

If anything this will make crypto mining more profitable such may drive prices up if it even happens.

>> No.6117165
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6117165

>>6111689
Is the bean green?
Who is Bitbeaner?

>> No.6117243

>>6112931
>so what's like the best case scenario?
>btc dies and alts finally rise or is this the end game?
This would be shitty short term, but good long term. It's like when too many normies invade your board, it's time to start gore posting.

>> No.6117333

>>6116988
Nice FUD, works fine here.

>> No.6117390

it's because they want their own bitcoin
they want TRON

>> No.6117445

>>6116261
>PoW uses A FUCKING LOT of electricity
So what, it's not like China cares about ecology.

>> No.6117476

>>6111689
>China bans mining
>Miners slowly shut down their mines
>Each time a miner shuts down, it gets easier to mine
>Yay, suddenly it's become profitable again to mine in the West!
>Mining rigs established elsewhere
>Chinks lose money

>> No.6117500

>>6117390
>They want an ERC20 token

>> No.6117501

>>6117476
Mah nigger.

Someone gets it.

>> No.6117544

>>6117500
what's wrong with erc20

>> No.6117559

>>6114419
lol look at this fucking idiot

>> No.6117583

>>6117069
subhuman retard, go shit in the street

>> No.6117597

>>6111689
>Vice News link
Jesus fucking christ. Fucking kill yourself. It's way to r*ddit in here where is that guy who was spamming nigger hate threads? We could use one right about now.

>> No.6117599

>>6114419
No and that's a good thing.

>> No.6117651

>>6117500

Nice research, fag. The current TRX is temporary until they open their main-net.

>> No.6117758

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-08/ether-surpasses-ripple-to-reclaim-second-spot-in-crypto-rankings

Everyone it's moving to ether ...

>> No.6117876

>>6117165
>Star Wars SJW article in lower bottom
lul

>> No.6118002

>>6111689
>vice

At any rate China banning mining is good for Western miners. China is going to cuck themselves out of the new world economy.

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6118009

>>6115578
It's already unusable, go buy a coffee with your bitcoin.... If you're not a brainlet you know the two reasons why you can't

>> No.6118191

>>6118009
They dont drink coffee in China?

>> No.6118221

>>6113174
It's also not a crypto currency. Better than XRP at least.

>> No.6118278

>>6118009
literally the only reason to own Bitcoins it's to exchange them for ETH and some other altcoins.....while you still can lol sell off!

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>>6113745

>> No.6118353

>>6118278
I've just gone all in BTC.

Watch and learn.

>> No.6118363

I'm preparing to buy some cheap used GPUs from gina.

>> No.6118427

Does that mean GPU mining will be profitable?

>> No.6118584

>>6115907
Exactly this. This shit smells like china fud that happened couple months ago.

>> No.6118667

That's a good thing for Earth.

>> No.6118692

They don't want to (and can't even if they wanted to) ban BTC mining, they just want to regulate it AKA tax it for more income

>> No.6118916

>>6118002
Mining =/= new world economy. If anything, China (and Korea) is at the forefront of the new world economy. It even has blockchain development in its most recent five year plan. They've already tested their own national cryptocurrency and they're starting to integrate blockchain technology into cities. IMO, it's the US that's lagging behind while it hems and haws about how to deal with crypto.

>> No.6119183

>>6111689
Doesn't that just mean more coin for other miners?

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6119683

>expert
Check this FUD
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2018/1/8/economics-profs-bitcoin/

>> No.6119737

>>6119683
hahaha what a nig

>> No.6119748

>>6112292

thanks

>> No.6119795

>>6111689
who cares about mining anyway
DPoS is the future my guy

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6119822

Bitcoiners are going full fucking damage-control wojak in this thread, holy shit.

>> No.6119872

>>6111689
Buy more ETH then.

>> No.6119876

NEO and VEN have the biggest chances to become China's official blockchains meaning rocketing to top 5.

>> No.6119968

>>6114420
It's at least $17 at the moment.

>> No.6120000

>>6119876
lol only westerners care about NEO

>> No.6120363

>>6119876
No they don't. It would likely be Qtum.