/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>58359622
My dad knows a guy who is worth 500 million and another who is worth 120 million. You would never know either of them are rich unless you asked them. They live like middle class people.

>>58359654
Have you found your way in life anon?

>>58359622
Richfags are worthless people unless they build parks that don't look like shit.
None of them are successful. None of them will lift a fucking finger and they are all frugal with anyone who isn't scamming them. Or doesn't meet their delusional end of their vision of being served on a silver platter every waking moment.
You should look much deeper than success or wealth at their nature. Everything is an illusion. I've met them all. I have never met one that would rather build a small park in SimCity and set a fund to keep it preserved than buy a yacht for themselves to sit leaking cancer into a marina.

>>58359622
when i was flying from dubai i sat next to this sheik. he actually has sheik blood and tells me he has multiple wives. he was super educated and spoke english better than me

>>58359622
I know a lot, who cares

>>58359721
Interesting anon, as I am getting older I realize we can only do so much on our own. I am generally pretty introverted but I am trying to be more extroverted lately as I wanted to expand my network.

>>58359686
My net worth is in the top 1% for my age so I'm doing something

>>58359622
I've met three billionaires, Dan Cathy of Chick-fil-A, Paul Singer and Peter Thiel.

I spoke to Peter Thiel pretty extensively about Bitcoin cash right around the time of the fork. He had no fucking clue about the fork. Had some poignant thoughts about Charlottesville. He left in the middle of a pitch about some flying Uber competitor.

I assure you a second French revolution is coming to the USA because these people don't LIFT A FUCKING FINGER because if they dare so worked their hands they would weep from seeing a little cut

>>58359763
That’s good anon, I am playing catch up in life. I have my head on straight now but still feeling a bit lost in general.

>>58359622
ive met a son of a billionaire

>>58359795
in fact i play poker with him whenever i am in his area

>>58359767
Chick-fil-a is now the second biggest fast food company? I saw that recently. Are you in the business of raising capital anon? It appears funds can be pretty lucrative.

>>58359809
Poker/ gambling in general seems to be pretty good for networking. When I go to the casino I try to make an effort to talk to people more often.

>>58359708
Wow, it's almost like being frugal and picky with your financial opportunies is what builds wealth. Weird!

>>58359622
Dumbfuck you shouldve offered to work for him on the spot. Anything he needs outside of weirdo gay shit. Rich people like that need guys close to them they can trust. If he likes you enough to confide in you thats your in.

>>58359812
>>58359823
Just warning you now retards
These people want one thing for you to give them your money, and to not lift a fucking finger for you even if you were about to die to a James Bond laser
You either scam them or die, and you are probably retarded enough to win the scam and spend the money on impermanent wealth

>>58359812
Yes but I'm a small fish vs these big boys

>>58359843
>Wow, it's almost like being frugal and picky with your financial opportunies is what builds wealth. Weird!
It does not, do you think Jewish people pay back their loans too?

>>58359844
>Dumbfuck you shouldve offered to work for him on the spot. Anything he needs outside of weirdo gay shit. Rich people like that need guys close to them they can trust. If he likes you enough to confide in you thats your in.
You sound like my father. They need weirdo gay shit. They don't need your service. That's what democracy is truly about, the plainclothes in power no longer have servants but slaves.

>>58359844
That’s what my dad said too, I didn’t think that was the right move. I learned more from him then he probably could’ve given me in salary and it won’t be awkward next time I see him since I didn’t immediately act entitled and deserving of taking some of what he earned.

>>58359855
If you are a small fish I must be a shrimp! Kek. Happy for you anon!

Lots of weird cynical poor fags for a business and finance board.

>>58359843
Oh, yeah. I agree. Consistently making good decisions and being frugal does lead to wealth in my opinion it only produces so much without some other type of income or business though.

>>58359857
>T. Bad behaving retard who makes up excuses for failures

Let me guess, you're also fat

>>58359906
>>58359931
>>58360020
Say this to yourself every moment:
What is it like to be rich in America.

>>58360031
Pretty good

>>58359622
Rich people are assholes. If youre out and about and don’t appear to measure up to their standards, they literally look down on you and cast mental shade all over you. Don’t even get me started about working for/with them. They make Indian caste system look like utopia. Their entire mentality is dark triad and game theory.

>>58359844
They don’t hired rando strangers for close association, incel trailer dweller. Maybe they’ll hire you to fix their toilet, but not for close association. These people are secretive and rely solely on personal connections and personal recommendations. Also they’re super quick to get rid of you if they see you’re not acting busy. That YouTube faggot Tom bilyieuueueuoii is always bragging about how if he sees an employee not performing he will watch them for a while and if they’re not busy he will fire them. Rich people don’t see employees as humans working for money to provide for a family/living. They see employees as literal objects of force to accomplish what they want.

>>58359622
I've met hundreds. Very few are impressive. Many are completely dependent on other competent people and its quite literally luck some of these people are rich.
They all know how to do exactly one thing well, and for everything else they find someone else to do everything.

>>58359784
My advice: turn making money into a video game. Sounds corny but it works, and it'll help you psychologically weather the difficult moments a little better. Learn how to make things feel "less real" and "more real" when it's strategically situational. Depersonalize it all into numbers on a screen when shit gets too real.
>>58359906
You underestimate the amount of ESLs here from third world nations. Ignore them, they're background chatter.

>>58359622
Holy shit can you learn how to properly format a green text post you fucking imbecile. I felt like someone injected me with crack trying to read that

>>58360131
>They all know how to do exactly one thing well
Only those rich inside will do this, and wealth should come to them, but the USA is so twisted from the top down that even if wealth comes to you for your dedication it won't be real enough compared to what the system has in store for you, especially you because you dared to follow old world purity

>>58360174
>you dared to follow old world purity
You're wasting your time shitposting on 4chan. A little self-awareness would not go awry.

>>58360161
That is good advice anon, I am not certain I apply your advice in the way you intend but I have come to similar realizations to detach from outcomes and fear and focus on the process as leveling up always results in bigger rewards while focusing out the outcome is a fools errand.
>I find it interesting when using your analogy of life as a game to find ways to level up so to speak as I think being as abstract as possible life is simply a game that often gets over complicated. I try not to over think to much yet I can recognize I lack in the self-worth department which is something I am working on improving.

>>58360076
It's not.
You can buy every advertisement in the magazine if you feel like it.
There is only moving your wealth to an infinitely renewable resource of the family estate which has livestock and potatoes, which you have to actually put your hands to the dirt to handle.
All those zeroes on your phone, the government or the sun will take them one day. Even the gold they'll find it. They'll pass a lidar satellite over your property. They'll read the surface of your brain and torture you for your seed phrase, albeit that is more impossible if you actually can memorize it and not let it get clobbered.
What it is like to be rich in America.

>>58359622
>know rich people in real life?
i know 3... well one of them is dead now so 2 i guess.
the dead guy won the lottery twice. i swear i'm not making it up. he won the lottery twice and in total made 10 million dollars. he then essentially killed himself by drinking. after winning the first lottery ticket he quit his job and spent every day drinking. two years later he wins the second lottery ticket and dies drunk in a car accident.
the second millionaire had a lot of gyms in different countries. this guy was self made. i'm honestly amazed you can make good money with gyms but apparently you can. no idea how much he had but by his own words, he had "well over 1 million dollars".
he drove a shit toyota and had dreams of "making it" in the combat sports world as coach.
the third guy is the owner of the company i currently work for.
his father started the company from nothing and 2 years ago the father died and the son inherited the company.
the father died with the hopes that AI was going to replace all the employees and he was going to save a bunch of money lol.
the company supposedly makes 1 million dollars a month and it's been around for 13 years now so the son must have a lot of money.
the dude drives a gold bentley bentayga.
the car is all yellow on the outside and the inside.
i think it looks hideous.

i've learned two things by interacting with rich people. 1- they are not very interesting to talk to. and 2- they are very quick to tell you that they are rich.
but after that initial awe from meeting a rich person fades (and it does fade quickly) they are not that fun to be around.
it seems their personality is just "i have money"

>>58360131
Is it wrong to have standards and put people to work who without you would be bumbling homeless fools without a task to further your goals which in turn lays them a quality of life?

>>58360220
>i'm honestly amazed you can make good money with gyms but apparently you can.
I worked in one of these.. because correctly located richfags will pay 1k a year a membership and 50 memberships will net you some profit, but rent of facilities is so high now it probably would not work in most cases.
People pay for the gym because they think it will make them improove

>>58360220
New money is weird like that anon. Not all new money is that bad but even at the middle and lower class levels I lol at new money. While myself nor my family if very affluent we are very well travelled and have mannerism and class that people who obtain even a mediocre amount of money fall into the trap of having being rich as their persona similar to what you describe. I recall when I first started in the self-improvement route I dreamed of owning gyms and they are surprisingly quite lucrative. The sad part is there can be a fairly step upfront cost in regards to getting the facility and a reasonable amount of equipment even second hand that makes the barrier to entry in my opinion a little bit to high for the reward.

>>58360269
I don’t really have the space to truly train and home and I am a poor fag in regards to private amenities as I have no suana or hot tub in my home so I do not mind paying for the membership and I suppose there are good networking opportunities. Nonetheless, I find myself enjoying doing simple push ups at home more than going to the gym.

>>58359622
i had breakfast with byron trott a decade ago. that's about it

>>58360352
Can’t say I am aware of who that is but it sounds cool anon. I am happy for you. Did you learn anything?

>>58360269
The law of scale is a pretty astonishing concept. I regularly think about how day doing 10, 1k jobs a month can gross 100k fairly easily. Of course business is probably not that stable yet it makes me wonder what product or service can I offer that has the upside of being able to make 10 sells per month to net that type of money.

>>58359622
There are a ton of rich fags here OP any oldfag here is rich unless they're just really really retarded.

>>58360393
Rich people tell you to start a business to get you thinking on a dead ended question so you stop bothering them because they'd have to give away they never thought about it in the first place
Which business? You mean a gym? You mean a gym which will get bled below break even because the rent for the only location which will be profitable for a gym will be only attainable by a clothing brands advertising budget and the owner is happy to raise rent prices to get that sweet sweet extra few thousand a year because they have competing clothing brands (which will all explode when the charade is up) when the gym would keep paying for two decades?
It's all a sham

Gemmy gemson!

>>58360400
Indeed, I agree. I am just trying to network and grow. I feel almost embarrassed and ashamed to practically be an old fag IRL who by all metrics is a complete loser therefore I am trying to surround myself with people who have what I want or who are working towards what I want. Wasted so much time with people who are going no where in life. It makes a huge difference hearing about how people got successful and more so how they view or deal with certain issues as it feels as though it short cuts the learning process. I have found myself to respect and be humbled by success opposed to the vulgar and profane who project their self-hatred onto others thinly veiled as some moral superiority for not being rich when they do clearly wish they were.

>>58360231
Not at all but all these rich people I know aren't like that. They will say stuff like 'I don't know anything about investing/finance/accounting you do it for me'. I don't know how they aren't taken advantage of at every turn. If I were rewarded for what I bring in, I would milk these rich people for all they're worth. Its not like the 19th century where you had to know classic greek to go to university. They know how to flip homes, or other very forgiving enterprises and all became rich off of one thing.

>>58360435
I think it’s fair advice to suggest starting a business as many people much closer to starting one than myself constantly talk themselves out of it. Sometimes the first step is simply starting which I think is fair advice and like you mention it’s a subtle way to tell people to fuck off which is fair in some regards. I do think you are being a bit disillusioned by reality though by your unhinged schizo ramblings about made up situations nonetheless.
>I had heard somebody say recently that it is all about leverage, in your example having a relatively successful clothing brand (Raw gear, alphalete, gym shark) provided leverage to fund additionally ventures such as a gym which creates synergy within your brand. This is not a profound concept I would say more so people feel like they should already be on their second business without starting a first business. It’s not like any of these people woke up one day and had three successful businesses.

>>58360489
>T. I am a loser who can’t leverage my perceived skills.

Why is it wrong to have somebody who is specialized in something that can benefit you and benefit them? It’s an equal exchange of value? I don’t see why you’re dilated over perceived slights that only exist within your own retardation.

Good thread chuds where's all the eyes wide shut parties though

Why are you sitting around thinking about stupid shit like rich people?

Go check out the fact that the DOGHOLE TG is literally all biz bros sitting around on a $40k mc that is BASED. Throw your $50 in and let it ride for the bull run. But you won’t do it! Here’s your shot!

>>58360546
Yeah hold on let me go back to to the 70s and I will "leverage my perceived skills" in buying real estate. I'm speaking from experience that most rich people are retarded. They are nothing to look up to. I'm not mad or demoralized. Oppurtunity is out there even if its getting more scarce. Not knowing how to invest is however pathetic. If you make all this money from being "specialized" but don't know what to do with it and let some jew skimp off the top you are retarded. Simple as.

>>58359622
Working at a nursing home I've known a few millionares, local mobster, freemason, few people in local real estate. Even if it's a side job it's cool seeing the end stage of life

>>58360737
If you can successful pump and dump crypto more power to you anon. I have not figured that out yet.

>>58360753
Lol. Okay nigger. Back to the hood you go.
>Better luck next time.

>>58360763
Interesting, I think it could be bitter sweat like you say. Cool to see what a full and wasted life looks like as well as a remainder that what we have is finite. Similarly probably a bit sad thinking about our inevitable fate. I have met and had family members that are free masons and that is something that interests me. One of the only other people in real life that is actually successfully that I knew was the grandfather of one of my friends growing up would always spend time at their house big shot mob guy that mostly went legit I presumed always had a brand new Cadillac often times two or three. Had a pretty lucrative business with a few partners that I actually went to and saw before. Became a bit estranged with the kid as he went a little to deep end of the drugs and all around was a little odd but it was a very shaping experience so to speak to be around that.

>>58360081

>>58360832
>huehuehuehuehue
>The vulgar are haram.

>>58359622
I've been in a billionaire's home before and learned a lot about the kind of shit elites spend money on. Hint: specialty breast milk from high quality vendors is a thing. Usually rich gay couples will do this for their adopted infants.
I don't know them personally. A friend of a friend is in a relationship with someone in the billionaire family and they invited us over to party at the house with them. There's a lot more I could say about this family but I really shouldn't.

>>58360975
Yeah, one thing I have observed is the focus on health when comparing levels of wealth. Vitality is strangely less important in lower wealth classes. Additionally I agree that at different levels of wealth money is used as a tool in much different ways compared to the average laymen.

Right lads, OP signing off!

>>58360809
Yeah makes me a bit hypochondriac lol, still it's cool, also dumpster diving at nursing homes is awesome. I get alot of totes, I actually pawned some and I still have a 10k gold ring that was thrown away, that pawned gold was 350 and I got palantir at 17 a share, was smug. Also its sad seeing kids throw away entire family photo albums/sense they just don't care. Also personally I wouldn't have my wife as power of attorney, I'd rather have it be my son

>>58361007
>is used as a tool in much different ways compared to the average laymen.
You're all fucking delusional temporarily embarrassed billionaires.
I remember a comment from someone who works at a toro dealership and said how insufferable richfags are throwing money at lawn equipment when it's a simple problem.
You act like they are all nobles when the rich class in USA top to bottom won't lift a fucking finger to do an ounce of work. And they never will until their currency is so worthless they are no longer rich.
They won't give you shit for currying their values of making sure no one is as greedy as they are

>>58360530
>>I had heard somebody say recently that it is all about leverage, in your example having a relatively successful clothing brand (Raw gear, alphalete, gym shark) provided leverage to fund additionally ventures such as a gym which creates synergy within your brand. This is not a profound concept I would say more so people feel like they should already be on their second business without starting a first business. It’s not like any of these people woke up one day and had three successful businesses.
Have you considered shit like this is utterly delusional with no basis in reality of functional products and is entirely based on a debt economy making sure child slaves in China will make your product for pennies on the dollar while selling it for hundreds a piece?
>>58360489
>They know how to flip homes,
Shit like this
Wow what a skill you can buy a house and negotiate a bunch of slaves to fix it up for you so again you don't have to lift a fucking finger and sell it or rent and rob a goyim because the goyim was programmed into believing they NEED this home when what they need is a potato farm to get out of this clown show
Rich people don't give a shit about you and never will, doesn't matter how much you try to act like them because they want slaves not nobles and knights and you can just look at the fed data and realize they are living a lie that will come due very soon

>>58360131
Knowing what your strengths and weaknesses are, and focusing solely on your strengths while hiring other competent people to focus on your weaknesses is not luck. That's intelligence.

Pseuds who think they're hot shit and want to do everything themselves because they overestimate their own abilities rarely amount to much.

>>58359622
I'm friends with the son of one of the oil billionaires in Alberta. The stereotype of rich kids liking horses is very much true