/biz/ - Business & Finance

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>>58253402
Please I'm ready, I just need a nudge on where to start, I'll read and I'll learn, help me out, my depression is getting worse and worse

>>58253338
open a dick sucking workshop

>>58253451
Maybe start at therapy?

>>58253582
my depression roots from financial stress and watching my mother struggle with money all her life

>>58253338
Dump your life savings into btc and go work for usps for a 5 years.

>>58253645
I only have 2k in savings

>>58253616
That's what you keep telling yourself, if you'd actually go to therapy you'd find out that money is MOSTLY not important. Don't get me wrong, money is important in the sense of feeling financially safe, but in the end you won't be happy just because you have money.

>I've depressed since 13
>watching my mother struggle with money all her life
What happened at 13? Did you realize about the financial stress? If so, why do you burden yourself with that from such a young age? A 13 year old can't do shit financially speaking. Maybe accepting that it's not your fault would be a good start. Being depressed + making money a lot of times don't go hand in hand. Yes there are some psychological adaptations that do up your chance of success, but they lead to endless suffering for being successful. I'd argue if you went to therapy you'd find out that it's not just money related. I'd argue that's a rationalization of your mind trying to convince you that money would solve 100% of your problem, but in reality it would only solve 5-10% of them, the depression would still be there.

>>58253338
What's funny about this image is that the tutorial is more chaotic and hellish than the actual game, especially studying in a public school living in a 3rd world country

>>58253655
Step 1. Get a job nigger
Thats it theres no step 2. You need at least 100k saved up from wageslaving to even take a crack at a business, unless you wanna start a fuckin lemonade stand or something

>>58253338
>alright guys im ready to make it now!!
You should have been planting the seed earlier
But regardless, if you want it, you would find a way how
Stop your adolescent hobbies and start learning

>>58253744
I'm just so annoyed at my age and being so broke while everyone else is making loads of money and travelling the world and meeting girls and having the time of their life

>>58253812
how are all these 18 year olds making millions on tiktok? I just want to run an e-business or get into investing or something that I can sell

>>58254071
They aren't. They're retarded niggerbrains who maybe got lucky after their parents gave them a few hunddy thousand to play with, and these are just the lucky ones. You don't see the rest of these zoomer chimps who lost it all only to be bailed out.

>Verification not required.

>>58253787
the tutorial ends at like 6. by 20 you're entering high level content. endgame by 35-60. into the 70s and beyond it's postgame content like fishing, monster raising, and finding collectibles

>>58254071
Ah, see, that's the problem of your depression, at least one of it. You're comparing yourself to other people. Comparisons aren't good. Everyone has their own shit, you need to stop looking at other people and figure out how you'll make the next best step for you day by day. What can you do tomorrow that'll make a change in your life? Do you maybe have a backlog of stuff that you need to take care of? Maybe start there

Also, saying you're annoyed is an umbrella emotion, be more specific. Are you angry at other people, are you angry at yourself, are you sad because of it. Being more specific with your emotions helps, since then you can pinpoint the problem easier.

I would argue that in the end this
>my depression roots from financial stress
is the other way around. I would argue that your financial stress roots from your depression, that's why I'm telling you that therapy would work wonders. And be careful, me just saying this will make your mind go into feeling attacked, a therapist would never speed run it like I am and just give you the answer. He'd ask you questions until you got it yourself, until you figured that shit out on your own. But that takes time... Figuring out why you're actually depressed, finding the root and then connecting why your mind produces the thought "I'm depressed because I have no money" would take probably at least 2 session. Could take far more of course.

Look anon, if you feel stuck, get therapy. It's not really a big deal, it's just a guy/girl who talks to you and tries to resolve your bad mental states. Worst thing that'll happen is your cry like a little bitch once you realize that you've been viewing it from the wrong angle for X amount of years. There's no shame in going to therapy, the real shame lies in being broken and not seeking help. If you're actually depressed since the age of 13 than I doubt it's 100% because of money. Must be other stuff, which lead you to feeling bad and therefore you're stuck

>>58254367
yeah my suicidal mother has severe depression and I've definitely inherited because sometimes it just seems to be coming out of nowhere, and the depression is so intense that it physically hurts, no wonder a side of effect of severe depression is suicide, as that sometimes feels like the only solution

My job keeps me in this monotony that is driving me insane, and my boss and my life is just becoming unbearable, I have all these wants to start a new business and dedicate my energy and brain into something of my own, I just need to figure something out so I can then get in a roll and leave this job and finally have something to be proud of, thank you for your long replies, I appreciate your words

>>58254479
>seems to be coming out of nowhere
It's not, trust me, there's is always a reason. You just don't see it because you haven't been taught from a young age how to handle you emotions and internal state. Which is really bad once you realize that. People should be taught psychology and emotional regulation from a young age. It would make the world a better place while helping people out in their lives. Instead of having shit like music/art class we should replace that crap with emotions class kek.

>as that sometimes feels like the only solution
THERAPY

>thank you for your long replies, I appreciate your words
No worries fren, I get how you feel. I'm not suicidal myself, never was, but I still get you.

You're a clear cut case for therapy my fren. Or at least start watching a psychology youtube. I really love HealthyGamerGG. Go to his videos, find something that resonates with you or just jewtube search HealthGamerGG depression.
First help get your mental health in check and then everything else will be much easier.
Depression is anger turned against the self. It's really hard if you're always angry at yourself!

>>58253812
basically this except it's comparatively less-important how much you save (depending on what business it is) and comparatively more important what you've learned through the experience of working.

Like if you've been working as a plumber's helper then apprentice then employee for a certain amount of time, you probably have a bit of savings as a result, but just as importantly: you've definitely learned a lot about plumbing work and the plumbing business. If you started with twice as much capital and zero experience, you'd likely run a worse business.

But "a pittance in capital and no experience doing anything of value" is - A death sentence. What exactly have you been doing for the past 10 years?

>>58253655
>roullette strat:
$600 on 1/3, $600 on another 3rd, $200 on 4 numbers, $200 on another 4 numbers. $1600 in play odds of winning 85% each win nets you $200.
>roll 5 times and dont lose and you made a grand

>>58253338
>like this anon
>$200 each spin only %15 chance of losing

>>58254634
working in different sectors (customer service mostly) and just trying to survive and make ends meet, I have a useless computer science B.S that i got from an online university but no matter how much I apply i never get a response on anything, not even for an apprenticeship, I tried writing e-books since I enjoy writing but that only netted me $200 a month, I just want to work hard for my own money and not for my (actually jewish) boss who is mean and hasnt given me a raise even though i work the hardest in the office

>>58254606
thanks, i'm looking now to see what my insurance can cover, i've read a lot of self-help books and watched dozens of Juden Peterson videos, i fixed my diet, made an effort to socialize and I exercise (very little) just the financial aspect drives me nuts, but your right i should stop comparing myself to others

>>58254758
>>58254885
i'm willing to make a longer investment with less risk

>>58254479
>depression
This used to be an issue for me, but there are ways to lessen its viciousness in its feeling. One way is exercise, I bought an exercise bike it has been great, very much worth the money spent. Another is vitamin d + k + fish oil. Also sunlight helps if you can get it. I am not saying these will solve any other problems you might be facing, but they will at least remove a lot of the searing pain that depression can give, or at least it did for me.

>low vitamin d and suicide
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37881417/
https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/15/7/1765
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25240206/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32388454/

>exercise and suicide
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32299418/

>>58254923
Don't read self help books, most of them are bad, just look at psychology videos on YT, FAR BETTER. Or read psychology books from psychologist, that's ok I guess

>I'm looking now to see what my insurance can cover
Even if you can't afford it, there is free mental health care available even in america. Alok, the main guy of HealthyGamerGG said that a few times. Also HealthyGamerGG does have free coaching available under certain conditions, but that's not suited for depression. He also points out a lot of times that if you just reach out to a therapist and say what your situation is (financial and mental) that there's a chance you can get it for free or for very cheap. Just reach out to mental health specialists, explain them your situation and someone will help you out, but don't stop if the first one says no or doesn't reply.

>Juden Peterson videos
He's ok, but IMO he's really basic with stuff and doesn't explain well. Try and watch HealthyGamerGG. I've watched JP but then I found HG and he's far better at explaining stuff IMO. More in detail, better logic to be honest

>>58255140
>Another is vitamin d
HealthyGamerGG a lot of times says that vitamin D deficiency could be a cause of depression, but because you're depressed since 13 that's probably not the case. But yes, it could literally BE THE CAUSE kek.

>>58255348
Also HealthyGamerGG has a Discord server with (I think) free group coaching and free group meditation, while he also has a reddit where you can post, explain your problem and people may be able to clarify and give you more answers

Meditation does help mental health, it's been studied and proven to help, because it's a focusing technique. In your brain focus comes from the frontal lobe, which are the "breaks" of the brain, they help you calm down your Amygdala which is the fear center of the brain (it processes negative emotions)

Mindfulness meditation google schoolar:
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=mindfulness+meditation&btnG=

>>58255489
1 / 2

Amygdala
Survival/Fear center of the brain, processes negative emotions. The part of the brain that helps us stay alive. This teaches us things like fear. Suffering also comes from here. If you have ADHD you have a disregulated/non-optimized amygdala. If someone damages/weakness the amygdala they become hyper sexual. All engaging technologies suppress our amygdala (and limbic system).

Limbic system
The limbic system is our emotional circuitry and is right next to the Hippocampus (the learning circuit). The limbic system is the part of the brain involved in our behavioural and emotional responses, especially when it comes to behaviours we need for survival: feeding, reproduction and caring for our young, and fight or flight responses. All engaging technologies suppress our limbic system (and amygdala).
Currently, it is not considered an isolated entity responsible for the neurological regulation of emotion, but rather one of the many parts of the brain that regulate visceral autonomic processes. Therefore, the set of anatomical structures considered part of the limbic system is controversial.

>>58255517
2 / 2

Cerebral cortex
It gives us high order thinking and high order functions.
Frontal lobe
Our frontal lobes are the brakes of the brain, they calm down our emotions and impulsivity. They also plan and execute tasks, which is called executive function. Will power also comes from here. Children have underdeveloped frontal lobes, therefore they cannot anticipate anything in the future, therefore they can't have anxiety (that's why they live in the present). The frontal lobe also does is generate value assessments. So anytime before you do an action your brain has an idea of what the action is worth. The value assessment is a subconscious assessment. If you want to make the value assessment a conscious assessment then play the tape through to the end, which means that you get a piece of paper and write down what will happen at what hour and how you'll feel about it if for instance you study instead of game or game instead of study. Even if you choose to game instead of study after you've played the tape throught to the end it'll still change your subconscious value assessment.
Ventromedial prefrontal cortex is part of the frontal lobe and is a controller. By controller we mean that if we have anxiety our Amygdala lights up, but then the Ventromedial prefrontal cortex, which is the controller, overrides the emotion. People who are anhidonics have a very very strong Ventromedial prefrontal cortex, which in turn means they numb their emotions.

Default mode network
The DMN has the capacity for self reflection. It makes conclusions based on our own experiences (even thought it's probably incomplete information). In depression the DMN is hyperactive and we can't shut it off and the thoughts it produces are along the lines "It's all my fault", it's always thinking about you, it's reflecting about myself.

>>58253451
>Please I'm ready, I just need a nudge on where to start, I'll read and I'll learn, help me out, my depression is getting worse and worse
find out what people want
of these, find out which you will conceivably be able to do
of these, find out which you will conceivably be able to attain customers
of these, find out which will produce enough money that you'll be content

OK, now go find the thing that people want that you can do that will bring customers and make you money. It's really not that hard, mostly luck from here on.

This is the entire game.

>>58255489
So if you meditate you basically train your frontal lobes which in turn helps you put a break on your negative emotions. Meditation is associated with religions, sure. But it's not a religious thing by itself. It's a focusing technique.

Meditation requires about 20min of practice at least 3 or 5 times per week for 8 weeks in order to see a statistically significant change in some kind of symptome (like attention). You need about 8 weeks in order to see neuronal changes on average.

>>58253582

GO BACK, FAGGOT.

>>58253338
Invest in rope you fucking faggot

>>58255348
>>58255489
>>58255517
>>58255536
ty this is all useful information, will definitely research more on it

>>58255594
thanks this really answers my og question, great place to start

>>58255807
classic

>>58256123
>thanks this really answers my og question, great place to start
you're welcome young anon

>>58255594
>that you can do
What if you can do nothing

Depression isn’t real
You’re just another faggot

>>58253338
>depressed since 13
you sound like those kids who stayed all the summer playin games like wow or blocklords, being afraid of sunlight

>>58256162
>What if you can do nothing
then you need a boss to tell you what to do, sorry anon

>>58256123
No worries fren, if you want more info just ask. I study psychology as one of my hobbies. It's probably the best thing I've studied in my life. I get that having depression is like you're walking in water instead of air. So getting some of those emotional burdens off yourself will help you immensely in the short and long term. Instead of wasting thoughts on bad feelings you'll be able to focus on improving your situation. The best of luck to you! I think you'll figure it out eventually !

>Even if you can't afford it, there is free mental health care available even in America
Ah, forgot to say this. Just go to the HealthyGamerGG discord and they'll be happy to help and point you in the right direction. Also at the start, as you join, you'll be asked questions by a bot and depending on how you answer them you'll get an automatic response with more details about the stuff you're interested in. But if you still have questions, just ask, they'll help you 100%.

He also streams on twitch. Educational content + he helps people on stream. You could try and apply for that, but a lot of people are doing that, so that's more of a RNG based thing.

>>58255489
DO NOT LISTEN TO ANYTHING hgGG has to say

holy shit this is terrible advise

>>58253451
Find God. Read meditations. Watch self help / motivation videos. Have willpower and establish self control over your life. Your depression is a mindset. Radiate positivity, control your thoughts. Happiness is a mindset for women and children, life is tough, roll with the punches. Hard times create strong men. Chainlink is the backbone of the entire web3 / DeFi space. Soon institutions will be offering tokenized assets on their platforms for their retail users. All RWA transactions will be using Chainlink’s suite of products such as DECO and CCIP. Are you aware of the “Chainlink Effect”? Chainlinks Cross Chain Interoperability Protocol connects all chains to one another, like TCP/IP for the Internet. Every transaction consists of a Chainlink gas fee. Hundreds of trillions of dollars are about to enter the DeFi space, and on every single transaction there will be a fee that will be paid out in LINK. The big outbreak for LINK is right around the corner, you don’t want to be left behind. On top of the gas fees Chainlink has a staking pool offering 4% APY on their LINK stack. Think about this, you will be earning passive income on an asset that is positioned to be backbone of the fourth industrial revolution. Earning 4% on an asset that is guaranteed to absorb value from the global financial markets. There will be tokenized stock offerings, creating a 24/7 365 global stock market all powered by Chainlink’s suite of services. Do what you want depressed anon. I have a feeling LINK is going to have an almost identical run ETH had in 2017-2018. Yes we are still early on crypto. Institutions are just now hiring positions for digital asset management. This space is absolutely going to explode in the coming years. I hope you kick your depression anon, that shit is bad for you and everyone around you.

>TL:DR
you’re a zoomer faggot with no attention span if you can’t read a paragraph