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>>58033692
Denial, easy.

>>58033692
Bear Trap. If you're not buying this dip, you have no one but yourself to blame

>>58033692
Getting to "return to normal" would require crabbing and then eventually a bull trap, it wouldn't just happen in a day.

>>58033692
the graph is fake, anon. you only believe it becaus they keep showing you it. it was never real. wake up

>>58033710
Bear trap, when DXY is showing signs of bottom, and Tether dominance aswell, sure mate.

>>58033702
There's a lot of leverage out there...

>>58033702
fpbp

>>58033692
We're in /biz/, you utter lunatic.

>>58033702
This. But alts are likely to put in new highs in the return to normal.

>>58033702
Retard

>>58033728
Day has no relevance to any of this. Stop taking about things you don't know

>>58033728
gold etf was approved before the recession just like bitcoin etf, gold ran up for 8 years just like bitcoin etf will

the elites wanted a way to make money during recession and this is it

go all in now or repent

>>58033702
this
/thread

>>58033702
/thread

>>58033832
>gold etf
>a digital iou for something tangible
>crypto etf
>digital iou for another number on a screen
Physical metals are the gigachad way, anything else is judaism

>>58033710
Exactly right. This is it. This dip decides who makes it and pussies who blame "bad luck."

Think carefully this week, make a plan. I sold everything yesterday to reposition and buy this dip. Good luck anons.

>>58033692
Fear

>>58034001
filtered

>>58034127
I hope we hit 50k imagine the SLURP

>>58034127
How low u think she go?

>>58034484
Don't know, 58-60?
Not an expert...I fucked up the last dip and was late back in, so I'm trying to get this right. Hope to buy alts 33% off.

>>58034728
I like them lines, this might go faster than i expected. Best set them orders up now. Ty papi

>>58034728
>Hope to buy alts 33% off.
try 50pct to 60pct off.

>>58033728
Holy fucking shit you faggot are still going on about your retarded outdated economic theories. NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS ANYMORE ITS ALL FAKE IT WAS KILLED DURING COVID ITS DONE ITS OVER.

>>58033692
100% bear trap

>>58033692
that applies to normal coins, not BTC dipshit
its like comparing vinu's price and BTC, makes no fucking sense
if you want to be a retard go back to /b/

>>58033702

This. We’ve always known.

Something kinda crazy is happening either way.
The highs seem too high for this dip to be a bear trap, and they don't feel high enough for the bull run to be over.
Either we're getting the golden bull run, or crypto is basically over/just like the regular stock market now.

>>58033717
Oh it's real. We're just past Return to the mean and the graph needs a sequel

>>58033692
Fear. See you in four years.

>>58033692
Prehalving surge

>>58033692
Definitely first sell off, we'll have halving in 33 days. People will only FOMO when BTC is at $90k because at that point, it surely will reach $100k.

>>58033692

“return to normal”

Smart money has sold and shorts.

New paradigm

>>58033692
>smart guy
at the top of first sell off

>>58033710
This.

>>58035980
Dope chart

>>58033692
Idk man it's gotta go up though

>>58034728
A,B,C wave is to downside
1,2,3,4,5 wave is to upside
Are you a plebbit?

>>58034001
You either invest in whatever will make you the most money, no matter how gay and pointless it is, or you accept the imminent collapse and invest in bullets and bug out gear
Anything inbetween is just gay and serves no purpose

>>58033728
Classic mid curve take. You are stuck drawing lines and to dense to see the supply shock right in front of your eyes. 35k BTC has been bought a week since the ETF went live. 6,300 are mined and that goes to 3150 in a month. Enjoy missing the bull run b/c you are waiting to buy lower smart guy. How's that been working lately btw.....

>>58033692
Despair

Pre halving dip, don't buy the weak fud

>>58037400
Elliot Wave is for people who want to feel smarter than everyone doing TA but aren't smart enough to realize EW is a joke.

>>58033702
nope. we hit ath and barely anyone gave a fuck. we're still quiet

>>58033728
>Another TA tard
When will you fuckers learn you’re just the same as those astrology roasties.

>>58037513
I trust the chart more than randoms online

>>58037525
73k barely triggered people's disbelief. It needs to hit 100k to seriously cause FOMO

>>58037552
This. In the past few months I really finally understood what it means to always do the opposite of what /biz/ says.

>>58033692
Bear trap

>>58037502
Only looking at a 130k top? Pretty grim

If this is the top why did we not get a proper alt season where BTC.D goes down by a significant level? The rotation of money in the previous cycles was Fiat -> BTC -> ETH -> Alts -> Fiat; BTC made a new ATH with more institutional money inflow than ever and yet alts have already topped lower than half their previous ATH? How could this be?

return to normal
7k very soon

>>58037502
cool chart

>>58037502
Its funny how everything is marked Nov 28th but if you actually look those marks/dates are off by multiple months. The chart is still a great showcase of cycles, but the astrology memeline gayness is showing, which takes away credibility to the idea.

>>58039671
Not accurate and only seems like a guide at best. Over a decade of btc cycle data however does not lie.

>>58040355
Correct. It's a great general guideline, I just find the astrology memedates they put on it entertaining.

>>58033692
First sell off

>>58038965

Institutional money is pumping only Bitcoin. That and people are wising up to the idea that chasing alt pumps is fucking retarded when you can just hold Bitcoin while it gets pumped by institutions.

>>58033692
>>58040533
First sell off. approximately 1 month until halving.
Halving => no immediate pump => dump = bear trap.
Halving dump => retarded media articles about BTC taking dump for first time after halving (lie) = media attention.
During that ETF inflows keep coming, normies slurping => enthusiasm.
Halving cycle =/= man action. Halving cycle = logos action.
Confucius said: "How may branches bloom, when roots are rotten." Halving = roots. Cycle = branches. Result is affected by root cause, not by branch.

>>58041139
There is still the idea that bitcoin mooning really hard above 100k could draw in normie retail attention to alts for the usual nonsensical reasons... But yeah they don't have the ability to outperform ETFs and large buyers like Microstrategy driving up bitcoin specifically, so even with that happening alts could keep losing in sats.

I'm biased in favor of bitcoin because its what I'm mostly in already, but out of curiosity I'd love to hear a case for BTC marketcap dominance falling (relative to non-stablecoin alts) over the next year. A lot of the alt season narratives seem to rely heavily on "the past always repeats", but perhaps it does until one day it doesn't.

>>58037513
Fine genius, then look at the current cycle dips instead of Elliot Wave. Similar conclusions.

Instead of vague criticism, perhaps you could lay out some objective measures for us to discuss and crowdsource future BTC movements? I'm here to have a discussion with like minded niggas, not spout my opinion.

>>58033692
stealth phase / smart money for $APU
It's not even a week old yet
LESSGOOO

>>58038965
Retarded meme coins stole all money from potential proper altcoin run

>>58042853
So 57.5k is the bottom of this dip? Shit

>>58033692
media attention

>>58033692
bear trap

>>58034728
>schizo TA bobo
ok so bear trap it is then thx

>>58043376
Dude I have no idea. Just throwing out different models in the hope that someone smart can confirm or disprove. Its also possible that the "new paradigm" ETF inflows make 20% dips obsolete.

>>58034001
Lmao imagine giving up on life changing gains because "muh tangible". What a weird hill to die on. I'd respect you more if you didn't buy crypto because of climate change or something else, but this is just lame.

>>58033692
return to the mean

>>58033692

That was the first sell off. lol lmfao. Expect the bull run to peak next year end of 2025.

>>58033692
140000 dormant Bitcoins to be released to the market soon. It's going back to 11k

>>58038944
if youre a latefag
130k is insane

>>58033714

>Getting to "return to normal" would require crabbing and then eventually a bull trap

"return to normal" is ending fool.

>>58034001
wrong faggot

>>58033710
this.

>>58034001
Try taking delivery of that gold iou hahahahaha. You wont be able to.

First sell off. Given the infinite nature of time we are always at the first sell off

>>58033702
Bottom signal

>>58033692

First sell off

you call the pump and put the dump.