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P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

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>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
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>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
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Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

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Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

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>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.


>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!


>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.


>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/latest


The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.

>Bitcoin's price = NOT the result of organic real-world supply & demand = NOT sustainable

Wash trading has been artificially driving BTC's insane price action since the first major spike in 2013.

>Wash Trading 101
1. create/maintain the illusion of high volume
2. wait for poor unsuspecting fools to FOMO in
3. dump at a fat profit and leave them holding the bag

When the supply of gullible fools finally runs out, the entire scheme implodes.

TL;DR: exciting price action means nothing in an unregulated market rife with such manipulation, real-world utilization is the ONLY reliable metric of actual value.


>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total BTC = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings BTC would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per BTC and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

>>57949662
inb4 bitcoin maxis

>>57949510
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Mining box is ordered.

I dont get it, why are we flatlining while BTC is pumping? Is Monero gonna follow suit with a certain delay? The Binance shit ruined the bull for us, ppl here should try to kill BNB as revenge.

Hello poor people, enjoy your mining fumes while I vacation in Greece

>>57950097
>white wine
>evening

Who’s the poorlet?

>>57950097
Imagine bathing in a pool with flouride filled water when theres the sea. U can do the same shit back in ur homecountry lol. Stupid women.

>>57950079
bitshit is pumping because boomers are buying ETFs. why would that pump monero? hopefully we'll be less correlated to btc price action going forward given the delistings

>>57950146
ETFs are bad news for BTC - they will trade with it and dump it sooner or later. Monero should pump because alts always pump when ppl exit from BTC expecting more profits. In this case Monero would be purchased by ppl who wanna hide their BTC stash for different reasons.

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>>57950079
>why are we flatlining while BTC is pumping

Monero has to appreciate the hard way: organically through growing economic activity.

BTC has Tether to artificially pump it. Good news is this approach is mathematically doomed to failure. Just wait for it.

Fun-fact: Tether has printed an unprecedented $5 billion USDT just this past week alone, looks like they're trying for $75K.

>>57950205
>ETFs are bad news for BTC

ETFs are catastrophic for the already waning BTC circular economy, you can't spend those coins, its just yet more hoarding.

Awesome for Monero though, the more BTC is hoarded the more it spirals into economic irrelevance. Keep it up, morons!

>>57950438
>the more BTC is hoarded the more it spirals into economic irrelevance.
I think you meant to say "the lower XMR falls against BTC"

>>57950466
>the lower XMR falls against BTC

Irrelevant metric considering how manipulated and fraudulent the BTC price is.

>>57949814
Comfy. What are the specs? I just built my own as well

>>57950341
>Tether has printed an unprecedented $5 billion USDT just this past week alone
We live in a society

>>57950526
We don't any more.

>>57950341
Lmao this pump is so fake. What a sad gambit. Tether is finished.

Bros should I sell Monero and buy smth considering that Monero will prolly tank once this shitty pump is dead?

>>57951838
usually monero pumps right before the massive dump. will be interesting to see if that still holds after the delisting.

>>57951930
Ty will follow, mb i will buy a M4a4 Howl in cs2, it has potential frfr

monero does what bitcoin't

Btw is the Monero network still flooded with transactions?

>>57950438
Monero is the store of wealth, Monera is the currency.
We need Monero backed by BTC

>>57950482
schizo take your meds

>>57950526

$40 billion USDT printed in just the past 12 months. $5 billion USDT in just one week. Shit's getting real.

>>57952089
>muh store of value

You don't actually expect us to take that seriously, do you?

>>57952105
>schizo take your meds

You forgot "cope"

what the actual fuck, you gotta be stupid not to sell bitshit at this point

>>57952266
stay poor
or
research bitcoin

>>57952570
>stay poor
>or
>research bitcoin

There it is, the boilerplate maxi retort to everything.

>>57952317
It's okay, it took me 10+ years to understand it as well and I'm in the 3rd SD in terms of IQ.

You will get it one day, stay humble and diligent.

>>57952526
>you gotta be stupid not to sell bitshit at this point

Why would you sell something that's going up forever?

>>57952626
We can only guess which standard deviation he meant

>>57952626
>it took me 10+ years to understand it

Says everything.

>I'm in the 3rd SD in terms of IQ.

Evidently.

>>57952266
with each cycle you guys sound more and more out of the loop
bitcoin is already a store of value you absolute moron

>>57952706
I have made a very good amount % wise, but only this cycle I have real $ to invest.

We will see.

>>57952704
the good one, trust me bro


I have all the love in my heart for Monero and all the hate in the world for the government and central banks. That being said, most do not share this belief and simply want protection if they are already rich. Therefore they need things rubber-stamped by big gov, IE "bitshit"

>>57952816
for how long, from the ath we are currently at, will it store that value for you over 10 years

I can't wait, please keep posting, and when you're wrong in 2034 make that post

why did it not work
why the fuck did "failure to comply with regulations" become the reason a coin cannot be

Which one of you is going to start a sex shop? I want to buy a loli onahole with XMR.

>>57952012
The stack is getting higher.

When is Monero gonna burst like BCH and LTC. Most underperforming asset this cycle.

>>57952882
?
you seriously think that it would be below 70k in 10 years, despite every cycle proving you wrong?
out of the loop, point in case

>>57953354
yes I seriously believe your finite supply shitcoin will be an antique, and a joke, a distant memory in 10 years, because I have the basic ability to use logic

>>57953393
then make a logic argument rather than telling everyone how logical you are, faggot

>>57953354
>>57953393
arguing there can be only one crypto is as silly as arguing there can be only one type of fiat or pm.

>>57952816
>bitcoin is already a store of value you absolute moron

Yeah? So if I buy 1 BTC as a SoV right now I have a near-100% guarantee it won't have dropped precipitously a month from now? 6 months from now? A year from now?

Because that's how boring and predictable actual stores of value are.

>>57953354
>you seriously think that it would be below 70k in 10 years, despite every cycle proving you wrong?

Oh I see, you take BTC's batshit price action seriously and remain convinced that past performance is absolutely indicative of future results.

>>57953458
There is only one type of fiat - USD. The others are not serious currencies.

>>57953603
>>57953701
when did this general got filled with smug redditors like you
last cycle the "monero does what bitcoin don't" did not mean that btc was a shitcoin, just meant it was a more efficient and private currency (read : currency)
enjoy being proved wrong again and again and again like some r/buttcoiner mouth breather

>>57953731
>The others are not serious currencies.
USD stopped being a serious currency in 1971

>>57950132
Private pools are easier to convince women to fuck in/near than a public beach.

>>57950493
Dual EPYC server chips. 64c128t total. Ebay servers are a riot if you can find the right listing.

>>57953816
>enjoy being proved wrong again and again and again like some r/buttcoiner mouth breather

lol everybody expects BTC to keep pumping, numbskull, just not organically.

>>57952946
It literally works great.

See >>57953816, you don't have to hate on Bitcoin or hope it crashes to think that Monero does a better job as peer-to-peer PayPal. I hope everyone who has lots of bitcoin because they hate fiat money makes tons of fiat money for their faith.

how do I sell my BTC stack without paying exorbitant fees?

>>57953816
the relative IQ of this board if graphed would look like an inverse of bitcoin's price action over the last 8 years.

>>57950341
What I hate the absolute most from retards who post crap from that site is that they never timestamp, which would be useful since that stupid fucking site only timestamps relatively. Kill yourself.
>>57954066
You're just gonna have to ride it all the way down if you're trying to avoid fees. Do the math.

>>57953842
>Dual EPYC server chips
Sweet, way out of the ballpark for me but gotta use free electricity somehow so I'll slowly build up consumer rigs - though I'll broaden my overwatch now that you rub my nose in win

>>57953842
>>Dual EPYC server chips.
Same here. Very comfy.

>>57949758
>btc maxis
imagine having so much confidence in your btc bags you have to raid the xmr general day in day out to feel better lol

>>57954721

Indeed. How are we supposed to have fun staying poor with all these future millionaires running around?

>>57949516
update: my transaction has been stuck for about 17 hours now. Standard "automatic" fee priority on cakewallet. Tried 3 separate nodes, nothing.

>>57949496
Hey, OP. Maybe add to the general the "Mysu Wallet". Its free as in freedom software provided by an /ourguy/, who posts the wikileaks archive, usable 3d gun parts, his own Mysu wallet as an android apk or fdroid repo and other stuff via direct download over tor hidden sevice or i2p bittorrent. fair enough, his wallet is still in early development, but it works quite well and i think he deserves more attention, as he has his heart really in the right spot.
>inb4 stop shilling yourself/selfad
im not him, i just find his project cool and think he does contribute a great tool for monero users, that should be mentioned in /XMR/

How crippled is my node going to be if I block clearnet P2P connections and allow other nodes to connect to mine through Tor and/or I2P only?

>>57949496
monerujo sucks balls

>>57954944
>Hey, OP. Maybe add to the general the "Mysu Wallet"

Nothing gets added to the OP or list of recommendations without being properly vetted.

>his wallet is still in early development

How early? Is it reliable? Could I stash 100 XMR into it without having to worry about some fatal flaw rugging me?


Feel free to shill it in the comments tho, be sure to include a link

>>57955020
>spongebob bed covers
either bottom signal or it's so fucking over

>>57955303
He does fumoshoots all day, this man is an unoverable beacon of light.

>>57954866
>my transaction has been stuck for about 17 hours now. Standard "automatic" fee priority on cakewallet. Tried 3 separate nodes, nothing.

Any of you guys notice this happening with other wallets? Or is it just Cake?

>>57952643
this would be utter nuts if this would happen
>billionaire buys so much btc and decides to hodl forever so that almost nothing is left
>another billionaire decides to stack sats
>it‘s the age of satoshis

>>57953436
read the first few posts of the thread

a finite supply means you don't have a store of value, you have an antique that is based on emotional attachment

>>57953822
based

>>57955323

>>57955281
>How early? Is it reliable.
Quite early, but also reliable in my experience i use it from time to time and its fine in terms of stability. it gets regular bugfixes too
>rk63tc3isr7so7ubl6q7kdxzzws7a7t6s467lbtw2ru3cwy6zu6w4jad
this is the Tor dot onion link to the mysu wallet site

>>57954944
Difference between it and anonero?

>>57955303

>>57955362
yeah I'm actually just restoring from backup on a separate device at this point, hoping to see if this was some fuck-up on my end or if it's really just an incredibly slow network cucking me. I just can't imagine a monero transaction with a normal sized fee would be stuck this long but stranger things have happened.

>>57955880
I think there was a bug re automatic fees on several wallets. it's been patched up (feather released an update yesterday) but not sure where that leaves your tx

We're about to fall out of the Top 50, outperformed by dog memes lol

Reminder that this is the clown market Bitcucks expect you to take seriously.

>>57956368
Inb4 btcuck cope how dogmemes are amazing financial investments because they LE MADE ME A BILLIONAIRE

Monero is like a warm fluffy GNU/blanket after dealing with other cryptos.
>PoW
>proper FOSS GUI+CLI wallets
>high quality FOSS miners
>no ASIC shenanigans
>cheap transactions
>none of the million tokenomics problems associated with random shitcoins
>ACTUALLY USABLE FOR COMMERCE
I'll gamble with and even mine other chains but Monero is what I "cash out" to.

Holding my btc until it stops pumping and then swapping it to xmr. It's that simple

>>57952825
>I have all the love in my heart for Monero and all the hate in the world for the government and central banks
>I just support them ideologically and financially

>>57957438

>>57958292

>>57956368
I had equal ammounts of bitcoin and monero and i know monero will have long term growth but it feels so wrong that memes are worth so much and every other crypto is rug pulls, i hate this space lacks so much integrity, for real i was always entusiastic on crypto and crypto has actually improved my life but i see scams and ponzi schemes everywhere only bitcoin and monero are worth it but bitcoin has transformed into something satoshi would hate

>>57958817
I tried and I tried but binance delisting was the last straw for me. sold my XMR for BTC and now do swaps whenever I need a bit of XMR to transact.
there is no point holding large amounts: you are just losing against inflation and BTC appreciation. in and out.

>>57958538

Yes, we've all watched Breaking Monero. No, we're not worried since its relatively simple to throw a spanner in the works. Ring sigs are on their way out in any case.

>SNARKs

lol even Z-devs themselves will warn you their tech is still considered experimental.

>>57958817
>bitcoin has transformed into something satoshi would hate

Moonfags ruin everything.

>>57958854
if you think btc is not in a bubble rn you are delusional and you should sell your btc asap before it pops.
remember that you are in the bigger fool scheme. don't be the bigger fool

>>57958854
>sold my XMR for BTC and now do swaps whenever I need a bit of XMR to transact.

Perfect. Hoard BTC and spend XMR. :D

>BTC appreciation

Uhh.....

>>57958999
checked. anon, do you have family? I simply can't leave gains on the table. not this much anyway.

>>57959044
>I simply can't leave gains on the table. not this much anyway.

What gains? Paper gains you'll never actually be able to cash out?

Depending on crypto "investing" as a revenue source is a losing proposition.

>>57959110
what paper gains? both spot and ETF liquidity is immense. that's exactly why Binance delisting was the last straw for me: it removed half of liquidity.

>>57958854
>binance delisting was the last straw for me. sold my XMR for BTC
For me it was the other way around, sold all my BTC for XMR. Weird how that works.

Why can't i have monerochan as a gf she can be a collective ai conciousness, like for real we have polimorphic chips, we advanced lmms that while they are still dogshit they kinda work, why can't we have monerochan in real life

>>57958854
Binance delisting was based if we are antisystem we want to get banned

>>57959267
Being anti system for real requires money

bros I think I understand the bitcoin price symbology

72 virgins for martyrs = palestine is winning, sell all your bitcoin = you are a martyr and you are in paradise

basically if you don't sell you don't get 72 virgins and this price is a sign to sell

If I use another crypto to on-ramp to xmr, should I use some unpopular shitcoin to get low tx fees and fast confirmation?

>>57961607
Yeah I typically used LTC for that before it got slow, these days it'll be Algorand or some L2 stablecoin.

Just slurped aome Wownero because its starting to trend. The MC and bull flag is too delectable to ignore. Plus Wownerochans fat tits.

What am I in for?

Can't Tether be forced to submit to a full audit? All this unrestrained printing is starting to freak me out.

>>57963242
>Can't Tether be forced to submit to a full audit?
It is in the US government's interest to let them continue to print right now.

>>57950292
>I2P Torrenting
Seed-n-Leech monero latest release 0.18.3.2 from the invisible internet:

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:9db59127a56bcf3e276ce32f52b0a9b600c3cc05&dn=monero_v0.18.3.2&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fopentracker.dg2.i2p%2Fa&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker2.postman.i2p%2Fannounce.php&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fopentracker.skank.i2p%2Fa&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fopentracker.r4sas.i2p%2Fa

Perhaps only tangentially related to monero, Incognito Market just pulled the rug on their entire userbase and is now extorting them under the threat that they'll publish everyone's private messages and order details that they've collected for years. Not sure how prominent Incognito Market was, but this may have huge ramifications on the trust and viability of using DNMs in general. For many, this will be a stark reminder that monero alone will not protect you if you're not also taking precautions in concealing your real name and location when it comes to mailing and delivering.

>>57964240

Judging by the commentary on Dread its looking like this is going to force a mandatory PGP + XMR standard upon the DNM scene. Monero-chan wins again.

>>57965116
How does she keep getting away with it?

>>57964240
>>57965116
Bet this was someone's endgame. No way you larp as a supervillain that hard while easy mitigations are widely known & available. Either way it's just one more anecdote in the public conscious to always go for the ultimate tools available.

>>57956845
It's literally that shrimple.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJLE2pnN9WY

Thoughts?

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/adjusted-for-inflation-bitcoin-hasnt-topped-its-all-time-high

>>57966791

BTC's price action is blatantly fake and gay and so not worthy of serious consideration.

>>57966791
Retarded at every corner.
Looking at ATHs is almost meaningless in the first place. Measuring against fiat inflation is, as the authors point out themselves, an argument against fiat. There would be definite value in an inflation-adjusted bitcoin-to-dollar graph but they are only looking at peaks and building a shady narrative around that - meaningless because "2013 peak" and "2024 peak" aren't valuable datapoints or comparable in the first place unless one is the guy who buys at the top only when they hear about "muh bullrun" in the tubes and waves.

>>57966791
If you adjust for inflation, only the knowing level has really gone up.

The initial sync is so slow, I can't fucking take it anymore

The only truly secure way to buy XMR is face to face with cash, right?

>>57955638
where can I get this but for wownerochan?

>>57968274
What do when I have to expect power outages. I am not eager to make backups on already limited storage drives and I sure as hell don't want to sync for 3 days ever again

>>57968355
The db-sync-mode option in the config or as a command line option.

"db-sync-mode=safe"

and you shouldn't have to resync from scratch unless you fuck something up badly, at most you'll just have to resync the blocks it missed while offline before catching back up.

>>57968355
I'm running the node on Btrfs with --db-sync-mode=safe, not worrying about this

>>57968432
Thank you Anon, that'll help immensely. I guess I can keep one initial backup then and just run the node without automating a failsafe

>>57968564
That's why your initial sync is so slow then I reckon? Downloaded the whole thing in 2 days on whatever sync mode it defaults to with shitty internet, there are also =fast and =fastest to play with

Are we under spamming attack? Broke record transaction volume

>>57968666
I didn't even realize that it defaulted to something else, thanks, changing it now. Probably temporarily moving the monero data directory into non-CoW directory too

>>57968968
From what little googling I did it only goes into =fast when starting without any database, which explains why it wiped my first attempt when the power went out.
The default is apparently =safe otherwise, though no harm specifying that either

This is impossible to recover from.

>>57969106
I could be coping but the mempool seems to be clearing up

>INFO Host X.X.X.X blocked
How do I unblock it?

>>57969411
Of course, just fooling around.

>>57968666
It synced 1% in 25 minutes and I'm apparently not even on the slowest part of the chain yet

>>57970169
I will tell my hamster to run faster

>>57970546
Huh? That's how slow new blocks are? I'm syncing 1000 blocks in 2 minutes or so

>>57962667
Fat gainz my fren. Cake Wallet will be listing WOW soon. At the moment the coin is inaccessible to normies who are too stupid to buy on places like Tradeogre and Swap Exchanges. When it gets listed on Cake that changes.

I'm running out of SSD space, gonna have to continue syncing on HDD, it's fucking over...

>>57958854
You're doing this whole investing thing wrong, fren. Monero is a risky investment as it poses a huge risk to authority, but also has enormous potential upside if it survives the battle against authority. This means it'll be volatile, and will remain abjectly undervalued for potentially a very long time. This battle is what you're seeing now, reflected in XMR's miserable price action. This causes you to become despondent. Being emotional leads to poor decision making in investment. For this reason (And for many more, but this one in particular) the maximum % of your net worth you should put into XMR should be one that doesn't cause you distress when the price dumps/stagnates, because the dumping/stagnation will continue for the foreseeable future, and possibly get even worse. Learn everything you can about XMR, and then put an amount into it that you are not emotionally attached to. Only then will you make good decisions.

>>57970885
I cannot think of an exchange easier to use than tradeogre, wtf

>>57971041
it's not only battling against authority, but also with bitcoin, who may implement more privacy features anytime, also somewhat competing with other privacy coins even though competition is rather weak currently

>>57971119
>bitcoin
>who may implement more privacy features anytime

>>57971191
the chance isn't zero, and there's already coinjoins which is a feature that has to do with privacy
originally the internet wasn't really encrypted, it only came after when people realized it sucked to have weak privacy

>>57971253
>>the chance isn't zero
Yes it is because the plurality of hashrate is held in the USA now.

>>57971119
>it's not only battling against authority, but also with bitcoin, who may implement more privacy features anytime

looooooooooooooooooooool holy shit, drop by Dread and say that for an easy laugh.

Is BTC going to ditch the transparent ledger and go fully encrypted? Because that's what it would take for BTC to ever be taken seriously by darknet OPSEC gurus and thus the general privacy space.


>also somewhat competing with other privacy coins even though competition is rather weak currently

lol like what? The ever-growing number of Monero-only markets are literally Monero-only.

>>57971253
Bitcoin is only allowed to live precisely because it does not have these features. Bitcoin can't even implement ideas like Drivechain that are by other BTC maxis.

>>57971253
>the chance isn't zero
This is exactly my point: Monero is risky. So don't put an amount into it that causes you to become emotional and make bad decisions when the riskiness of the investment manifests in disturbing price action.
You don't have to go all in on Monero (Or anything else). You can own both Monero and Bitcoin.

>>57971253
>coinjoins

OK, dipshit, let me spell it out for you: if its not private *by default* at the BASE LAYER its dead on arrival as far as any reputable cybersecurity expert is concerned. Go ahead and ask around.

>>57971435
>Monero is risky

All crypto is risky. But not all crypto is being propped up by shady stablecoin with a hyperactive printer.

>>57971514
I don't think you understand my posts.

>>57971881

MOAR

>>57968305
What's your goal? Unless nobody may ever know you ever purchased XMR at all, a regular KYC exchange is going to work just fine. Yes, they'll know you bought it but it doesn't make the currency itself any less anonymous. As soon as it's in your own wallet, it's as if it never existed.

What do you prefer to use? Bisq or Localmonero?

>>57973492
you lost your wallet information in an unfortunate bird attack

Im tired of having to wait for my local node to sync up everytime I want to transact. Normans wont put up with this either.

MONEROMARKET.IO

>>57973628
Boating accidents are also an infuriating way to lose your keys.

>>57973743
You don't have to run a node to transact.

>>57973743
Raspberry Pi and 256GB class 10 sd card. Copy your database over, let it run passively.
>Normans wont put up with this either
Good.

>>57973743
>tired of having to wait for my local node to sync up everytime I want to transact.

You're supposed to leave your node connected to the network 24/7.

>>57973817
you do if you want it to be trusted, or am I wrong

moments like this make me so redpilled on monero
>need to pay my email box provider, only accepts bank wire/card
>bank wire - have to wire to currency exchange first and then wait another day or two for the euro wire, fuck that
>try current debit card through stripe - "your payment has been cancelled"
>try older debit card through stripe - "your payment has been cancelled"
>try using paypal, add my current debit card - "we couldn't verify your card, please try again later"
>now it is therer, but requires second verification - "we couldn't verify your data"
>try paying through paypal with my older card that worked before - "before using this card check your account at card's issuer"
>check my old card's bank, not a single hint that something's wrong
FUCK glowniggers and FUCK traditional banking, i just want to pay for my fucking email

>>57973847
Exact feeling I had when my bank stopped letting me access my funds at all without giving them a phone number for """security"""

>>57973875
I got a bunch of hassle for withdrawing a few thousand dollars in cash too. They HATE not tracking your every move.

>>57971881
Nice!
Are you the artist anon from the previous bull run?

>>57973846
If you want the best odds of strong anonymity you should, but normans dgaf. They're going to keep their coins on Kraken and let them worry about running a node.

In the event Monero gains real mass acceptance you're probably going to have weird institutions acting as banks. Like churches and dry goods stores. Just load up their wallet app and put your coins in there. Let them worry about insurance. Only a tiny % of people would run their own node.

>>57952706
>>I'm in the 3rd SD in terms of IQ.
>Evidently.
MY FUCKING SIDES, KEK

>>57973515
Well if no one's going to answer my post, I personally like using Bisq more just because for one there's more than 10 supported cryptos and 2. Kycnot(dot)me shows that Bisq has lightning network. Both are good in their own ways though. You can't go wrong with either.

>>57974243
I prefer local monero.

There is going to be so much demand for Monero from anyone who desires to leave the all pervasive financial surveillance state. It is one of the three "true" cryptos (BTC, ETH, obviously for vastly different reasons). It is the only one still available for cheap.

Any number of global events (that you all can feel are on the horizon) will prompt a surge in demand for XMR. War, financial system disruptions, dollar hegemony destructions, those ETF boomers figuring out that all of their BTC transactions are broadcasted for the world to see. There are so many things obviously taking place behind the scenes that I am completely confident XMR will explode. Anything that makes people want privacy makes people want XMR.

I fully expect it to be in the 5 digits in a few years. It will seem obvious in hindsight. Anyone with XXX XMR will make it.

>>57974269
What do you like more about it?

>>57973774
How much is a bag of coffee? I like the labeling therefore it must be good coffee

>>57975832
0.15 XMR. It's good coffee with lion's mane mushroom.

>>57975887
I'll be picking some up this weekend, thanks

baggot cope general

For those that didnt see it, ArticMine, a core dev who works on monero's architecture, says that the large influx in transactions is is most likely organic due to Binance delisting
>https://www.youtube.com/live/UeUGiSreegs?si=OPjYsf0BdBu_48Y8&t=6398

Wownero bros, we're mooning

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>57969106
lul

Really need more Monerochan literature.

Cakewallet is almost finished.

>>57977153
thought it had bitshit (according to this retarded general) already

>>57977167
>thought it had bitshit (according to this retarded general) already
Enjoy being sidelined for this moon mission, lil' chuddie.

>>57977191
thought you meant it was over because it was accepting wownero
don't give a shit about you making gains whatsoever b good move

>>57977248
>don't give a shit about you making gains whatsoever
Omegacuck

>>57977271
what are you on about you troon
I don't care about xmr and I'm making gain myself

So I don't care about BTC and whether it's shit or not, I only care about making my monero bags bigger. Do I get in on this BTC pump? if so, when do I convert back to monero?

>>57977414
swingies get the rope

>>57977414
If you didn't catch the dip earlier you missed it. Wait for the next one. Don't get hung up on missing out; that's how you get fucked. Better yet, look at something that isn't already near topped out like ETH or XMR

>>57964240
Pharaoh got too cocky. He should have taken the money and disappeared like other site admins. This moron is gonna end up in a cartel snuff film on bestgore. Very sad to see.

>>57978034
What's the lore on this? I saw a screenshot of someone discussing an attempt to dox him

>>57977153
how do you even buy wownero?

>>57978047
I didn’t follow closely, but you can read more on dread. His old vendor account is already doxxed through matching writing style. I would be very surprised if he didn’t make other mistakes along the way, after all nobody is perfect. These markets exit scam all the time, it’s nothing new, but this moron took it to another level and it was not necessary.

>>57978034
>This moron is gonna end up in a cartel snuff film on bestgore

That recent one of the guy getting his face peeled off while fully conscious was some next level shit.

How do we get Tether to print more monopoly money? The pump is slowing down :/

>>57973515
Bisq is too fucking laggy. Localmonero just works.

what's up with all sellers on LM using wise Kenyan accounts? Is it safe? Don't want my account closed.

>>57949516
does the IRC even exist still? i tried to access it today and couldn't :c

I'm the anon that asked about using PayPal as an anon last thread. I guess I should have been more specific with my use case. I am not buying Monero with PayPal. I want to buy items using PayPal and want to load the account what funds anonymously or as anon as reasonably possible. I can only think of Visa gift cards purchased in person with cash or Monero via CoinCards. Are there any other options worth considering?

>>57976721
Never likes wownero. Its good as a test net.
At least if you guys wanted a meme coin, ot should have been a dog or a cat. Or somethibg edgy or at least degrading to bitcon (bitcorn or something like that).
Its to autistic to be a meme coin. At least the scan pirate chaim larps as a pirate. Arrr

>>57980379
>not buying le elon wario coin
ngmi

>>57974243
we don't use neither here
most people use telegram p2p buy and sell groups
I should start shilling these
but yeah not much monitoring here and everyone knows everyone - small country
fuck keynesians, keep stacking bros

How many wowneros to make it? I have almost 1000 WOW now.
I think I need more.

>>57980812
you make it by USING monero
sound money safe mode brothers

>>57980821
I already have a shop on moneromarket.
>>57979485
It exists, but last time I checked it was empty. I used weechat to connect.

>>57980649
unironically some old fags might remember me
I dont have access to my old wallet anymore, if you're lurking anon - a based anon sent me an unknown amount of XMR a while back and used to send me randomly every other month
if you're lurking

41jhfidFTRFWrj2DfrovwVhWANMHtcT5QULasrpTYizr7YWFLQohnkwiW9JmT6SjSu7egjLUNhavML2sZToVPvPXR9w3yZe

this is my subaddress

>>57980990
How many dead js per xmr?

>>57981023
kek'd and based
>pic related

>>57981042

>>57980990
stop with the begging nigger. whenever I see you posting, you always beg for a little more XMR.

>>57980990
thank you anon

>>57979485
practically always empty :^(

>>57980990
hi LebAnon hope things aren't terrible

>>57981497
follow Christ

>>57981858
based
Christ is king

I love this SLUTCOIN

when will monero stabilize again?

>>57981023
About three.
>18M pre tail emission supply

>>57982220
Pump it, SLUTCOIN.
>cracks whip

when btc reach it's peak, will transfering everything to monero be a good idea? or will it go down as well?

>>57982725
Our stablecoin is already detached from BTC. It might go down when BTC finally crashes from the overall panic.

Is there any service or product or really anything you want that involves monero significantly and does not exist(or is bad/dead)? I'm a developer looking for something to do. I already like and hold monero anyway, so I may as well look for something to do related to it.

>>57983074
Btc atomic swaps

>>57983074
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/
https://ccs.getmonero.org/
based XMR chad

>>57956368
>>57958854
I capitulated yesterday, sold most of my stash for ETH, I only kept what I think I'm going to use to buy things in the short to mid term, finally I am using XMR as a currency as it's supposed to.
I still believe in the tech and in the project and I hope it will gain more adoption, but I don't believe the price will increase anytime soon.
>>57950341
>>57950438
>>57950482
>>57952223
>>57952266
>>57952317
>>57952610
>>57953603
>>57953701
>>57953938
>>57956368
This amount of cognitive dissonance/cope is embarassing. Just admit that XMR is a bad investment and move on, this doesn't invalidate the technology anyway.
>>57965116
>PGP + XMR
About time, it's a decade that I shill PGP but people always whine about it being too hard(and truthfully GPG sucks dicks and mail integration sucks even more), maybe with the fear of being arrested now they will have a reason to get off their ass and learn it.
>>57973743
>tired of having to wait for my local node to sync up
Buy a server and keep it on?

Oooooouuuggghhhh that's right, SLUTCOIN, keep pumping I'm not at the peak yet!

as I thought, this coin is just crabbing side to side and nothing is happening

and also as I thought, the /biz/xmr/ general has been taken over by coomer faggots who only care about monero chan and nothing else....

the fundamentals of the coin are still solid, but i think that's where the positives of monero start and end

>>57983303
>>57983491
>Verification not required.

>>57983519
I literally had to fill out the captcha 3 times lmao

>>57983303
>This amount of cognitive dissonance/cope is embarassing.

nice rebuttal there, pal, you really laid out all the facts. Say "cope" a couple more times for good measure. As is tradition.


>Just admit that XMR is a bad investment and move on

lol we keep telling you Monero Is A Terrible Investment™

But even then its still a safer investment than your Tether-backed memecoin kek

>>57984182
>safer investment than your Tether-backed memecoin kek
This. For me Monero is my store of value. It's what I cash out into, not cash out from. It's virtually never going to zero unlike most crypto because it has real use and a parallel economy. Everything else can be pressured by FBI-chan.

Just came back from the supermarket but they didn't had beer barrels. Fuck you Netto! However, I'm still working on it...

>>57949662
This fuckin guy still saying this? What a joke. The bitcoiners who aren’t fucking retarded are the only way more value is being added to Monero. Their massive gains and speculations on shitcoins like Monero will continue to be what holds your entire system from collapsing. Show some respect, you worthless nigger OP

>>57984314

My disappointment is immeasurable. I was so excited my mom drove me to the supermarket today so I can finally grab some barrels and now THAT! Almost stared to smash jack Daniel's bottles against the wall to burn that entire netto to the ground. I'll spent the rest of my life hunting every single netto employe down and make them pay for my suffering

>>57949662
look at this fucking nigga still thinking miners only get paid in subsidy... grow up retard!

>>57984555
>>57984292
I am sorry that happened to you anon. Maybe this picture brings you some comfort.

>>57976294
Doesnt really matter if its organic or not. The txs lagged quite a bit. Mine took 50 minutes to go through and exposed xmr weakness to such attack if someone wanted to do it.

>>57984664
It truly helps a little

Death to Netto, enemy of all monero /biz/nessmen.

>>57984691
Kek based. Waiting for my sister to come back from vacation so she can drive me to a bigger supermarket, they 100% have those barrels, but it's a 30 minute walk (one way) and I'm not going to walk 1h with 2 heavy barrels. Hopefully get the first listing up until ~Monday next week idk

>>57980990
I don't believe you, especially since lebanon was always too dense to use a secure tripcode the only way to identify him was with his original address. You don't know it. You don't even have his metadata.

Monero coin.

where the fuck do i get a monero fumo from?

>>57986304
You don't. An anon made a hundred of them and they're sold out.

>>57986304
>>57986406
On that note: you DO whine in the thread a bunch so he makes another batch

>>57986406
>>57986421
What kind of madman wouldn't continue fumo business?

>>57986304
>where the fuck do i get a monero fumo from?

From someone who has one, as they're sold out.

>>57986454
There's no fumonero tail emission? Bros...

>>57986445
Especially since the resident fumochad will need to replace his ménagerie de mònerochán if he keeps killing them off

This is my favorite part of the bible.

>>57986570

My uncle works at monerosupplies and he said there will be wownero fumos soon.

>>57986477
A few people have multiple fumoneros. Someone might be willing to sell/trade. I have an unopened one but am not really interested in selling.

What steps do I have to take to connect to a locally hosted monerod on another device. Ports are open, launched with --allow-local-ip yet it refuses to connect. What miss?

Why does monero not raise it's price if there are More transactions

>>57986445
fumo inflation!

1 fumonero = 1 virgin wife

>>57983303
>normies are capitulating
lmao the fomo will be massive, XMR to the fucking moon (eventually)

>>57987086
*fumo will be massive
hug-pillow sized fumonerochans

>>57987267
>massive hug-pillow sized fumonerochans

>>57987086
>>XMR to the fucking moon (eventually)
>has been a solid stable coin (form a crypto perspective) for nearly two years
>barely moving during a record bull run

I don't think fundamentals always win. It's easy to see why one would acknowledge defeat. I remain too stubborn to move on from fundamentals. I'll patiently wait and see what the clown world has to offer.

>>57987336
>I don't think fundamentals always win.

History teaches us otherwise. You can't outclown basic math, sooner or later sanity *always* returns to the market and then its pink wojaks time.


>barely moving during a record bull run

The bullrun is fake & gay. Everything in this clown market is fake & gay. Once you finally grasp this one simple fact you can stop worrying and start enjoying the clown show.

>>57987592
>The bullrun is fake & gay. Everything in this clown market is fake & gay. Once you finally grasp this one simple fact you can stop worrying and start enjoying the clown show.
which is why it will not move whatsoever despite the fundamentals being solid

>>57987623

As explained, the clown show simply cannot last indefinitely, basic math prevents this. There can only be so much wash trading, Tether can print only so many funny monies, speculative mania can only reach so high before a tipping point is finally reached, shit hits the fan and everything goes south.

Just take a look at the glaring lack of normie/media excitement about this latest ATH....nobody cares anymore, a critical mass of the populace has been blackpilled by all the endless crypto scams and litany of unkept promises about "the future of finance" that they're now numb to the whole thing, they've finally realized what a joke it all is. We're likely much closer to the end of this clown show than we think.

Meanwhile, Monero only keeps growing its economic relevance in real-world commerce & business sectors, both darknet and clearnet.

The writing is on the wall. Only question is can you read it?

>>57985453
I do
89EwAxkxTxx9czgzGUcegZj5C9FhNojnBMAEJoesfn7gP8YXzq5n3caZbvMY3JxMZTMVgh8dbpojSSRX4Ujk86wAB8U6wx9
kek
I'll make a tripcode first thing tomorrow morning

>>57988681
What's your metadata? I don't know why you never email me, you have my email, my friend. Lord willing I will be sending you something soon.

>>57988789
I cant recover the proton mail I used to text you on I told you, it was bad opsec

>>57988879
Do you have a new one? To make a secure tripcode just add ##(yourpasswordhere) to the name field. Make a goddamn tripcode now in case some retard pretends to be you in the future.

>>57988950
done

>>57952946
The truth is no defence.

>>57987041
Fumonero IS a virgin wife.

>>57983584
>being this new

>>57987873
please stop the proliferation of AI monerochans, I haven't saved barely any monerochans in a year because my autism immediately notices the inconsistencies with reality.

>>57974342

>>57981077
>>57986570
>>57983519
>>57984664
>>57986454
>>57986689
>>57987041
>>57989932
>>57984691
Will they ever restock? It would be ashame if they just ended with 100.

fumobtanium

>>57990278
we need a fumo tail emission

>>57990426
First we need 18 million fumos

>>57990278
Not these ones.

I might look into making monero research labs themed ones with blue hair and a lab-coat as a monerokon exclusive in the future but unsure.

>>57989932
Cute orb pondering.

>>57990620
I still have #100. We could do an auction and donate proceeds to the monero art fund if that's still active.

>>57990669
Auction sounds like fun.

>>57990174
>please stop the proliferation of AI monerochans

I don't disagree but the supply of organic Monero-chans has virtually dried up, can't remember the last time there was a commission being funded.

No idea what happened.

>>57990818
Those stopped right around the time generative AI could produce images more complex than a shitstain

>>57937714
it's made with suno ai and they give 128kbs

New songs:

>Monerochan - Coin of the Underground [rap]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5li9Xthce_w

>Monerochan - Coin of the Underground [pop]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRpmIi7R3Xo

>>57990669
The battle for the 100th monerochan fumo, would be an interesting sight to behold.

>>57950273

>>57990620
I want Wownero-chan model, extra-rare. 42 total or something.

>>57991410
+ The Auction

Monerochan - Shield from their Prying Eyes [psychedelic rock]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQWEltFdIVk

>>57991410
The nice Chinese lady doesn't allow runs that small :/

>>57990834
>>Those stopped right around the time generative AI could produce images more complex than a shitstain

So what does it take to get another commission going?

monero.how has the transaction ratio to btc, but its kind of useless since ordinals became a thing and diluted the number heavily. is there a ratio that removes ordinals somewhere?

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>>57992781
typically people would just make offers in the general until someone who had good enough work responded, but that was also at a time of much higher traffic on this board. There's also monerochan.art but i have NO fuckin idea if that's even active still or what the deal is