/biz/ - Business & Finance

This, so much this. Link is beyond over

>>57883952
High quality fud 8/10. Shill u are different. Organic, thought provoking, original. Well done.

I'm ashamed it took me this long to realize link is a scam, and biz wanted to meme me into being poor forever.

>>57883952
It's really just if CCIP goes live then it will have the market cap of ETH, set in stone. Everyone knows that and its why sanity here is now completely fleeting.

>>57883988
Checking my greatness

>>57883952
Link had its blow off top against btc and eth. Whatever it does now, as long as the dumps continue and the fees generated can't sustain the network, it won't reach its sat and gwei all time high again.

I attended the first in-person Smartcon and that was to me what started the massive decline. Eric Schmidt to that point was supposed to be this massive influence and titanic shift in Chainlink's arc. That talk started a massive decline. The next year, he shows up on a Zoom call in some underground bunker with Ukraine props in the background and terrible video quality. He barely talked about Chainlink and generalized most of his discussion. Around the same time, he bought a massive boat, with what was probably the consulting fees he was being paid by Sergey. Since then, complete silence.

>>57883999
Oooooooo

>>57883952
>>57883988

>>57883952
except it won't hit $400

>>57884022
Pls tell me how much you own, when u sold, honestly bout to sell my 11k stack but need proof of your nihilism

>>57884030
It will hit $1173

Im a 2017 fag. Been burnt, rode highs, scamwickd. All my coins turned to dust but link

Even if we ever truly make it moneywise, you're right - I've laughed so hard at retarded POSITIVETHOUGHT-MANIAC-SOAREYOU comment chains, shops of sergey fatter and fatter, gravelcoin threads, autistically hunting down the fabled shirt. I didn't realise we were living the good times with likeminded hopefuls shitposting our days away. That link energy doesnt seem to be here anymore, maybe because everyone have no doubt that chainlink will moon, even if it takes decades. I just want my old starry eyed linkbros back

>>57883952
Think I will just hold ETH and Solana as my altcoins because it's guaranteed degen traders are going to pump the shit out of them by 2025. 2021 taught me the only way to make it is by embracing how much of a clown market crypto is.

>>57883993
CCIP is just a protocol. Even if it goes live, say you're a dapp which want to use it for bridging assets, you can't use it out of the box, you have to fund your bridges with enough liquidity, spin up your contracts, etc... CCIP is just providing code, not infra, even when live it will take a lot of time before it's widely used

This fud is too streamlined to be organic. Bless u sirs Ranjeet and Pajura

>>57884051
not in this lifetime

>>57884059
node operators provides infra I guess you'd say

>>57884036
I prefer not to say a word to Linkies. I'm just here to listen. And that's what no one else did.

>>57884087
Dude what time is it in Nepal? Some shits goin down if your willingly fudding to no one . Must not be fo free

>>57884155
Gotta cheggem be gone Satan

>>57883988
Not fud, I am 7 years older, and am tired. Tired of hearing "tonight", "two more weeks", and "I'm so excited for you kids". Just one big happening would've been nice. I've watched meme after meme go 10x in the first months of the year and I'm sick of this slow crawl back up. I look at the staking rewards and they give me no satisfaction or excitement. Two Sigma runs a node, one of the biggest hedge funds in the world, but we haven't heard a peep about it since. Same with T-Systems, why hasn't there been deeper collaboration. At SmartCon last year we heard Hong Kong was about to go live, half a year later we just hear how they like web3. This has been a depressing experience the past few years. I would've been better off never coming here and going down the rabbit hole, and instead just keeping the btc and eth I had and bought some shitcoins and went about my way.

So yeah, if it hits $400, I'll just shrug and sell. No more assblaster fun, no Blythe posts, no fun wallet autist threads. That feel is gone

>>57884211
What’s portfolio then . Post it

Link is a cult

>>57884211
well it's happening tonight, also in two more weeks, and finally btw i'm so excited for you, kid

>>57884272
Fuck you

>>57884086
They won't provide your liquidity contracts for your bridge lol

>>57883952
Its so tiresome, in fact its so tiresome I'm too lazy to even sell now that I'm in the pool, cba waiting for the unstaking period, guess I'll just laze away.

>>57884456
yup. i make like 10k a year from staking now. i am resigned to that... meagre passive income. that's all i get. all i deserve.

It wouldn't have been a hero's journey were we not bedeviled by demons and had we not gone down into the abyss. Do you not recognize the author of this story?

>>57884050
CLL itself has changed. it's not a scrappy startup anymore, it's a bloated tech company with multiple layers of bureaucracy and a very hardnosed approach to the industry. They've been burned countless times by fakers, and wasted many resources chasing things that don't work. Experimentation is over, they want results

>>57884485
What are you saying anon, we are not demons. Have they taken over the project?

>>57884211
>So demoralized that he whines about a prospective 20x from here, on top of a 4x last year
I hope this is some kind of metacommentary on how degen brains turn to mush when faced with bullish sentiment and you're not actually such a bleak bulltard faggot

also if BTC does a 20x that's $1.3m per corn, if ETH 20x that's $74k. go ahead and sadly wait for those price targets, as you like

>>57884585
They have been burned many times. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 50 times, I'm tard.

In the early days we had the Oracle partnership, we had Celsius, we had that weird Filecoin x Gemini partnership. Looking back, those were all terrible decisions by what was most likely the decision making of the two people in my OP. They trusted Fernando, trusted the slimy people involved in Celsius, Bancor and many others like them, they trusted the Winklevoss twins, they even trusted Sammy Bankman Fraud to show up at SmartCon. They trusted Ed at Arbitrum. They trusted Yorke at Microsoft. The sketch guy at DMM. The crew at LinkPool. Yeah, now that clears my head. Sergey and Steve have been awful people to run a startup and it consumed them. They were no Sergey and Larry. They still got rich and had fun, we never got $1000 or even $100

>>57884485
anon, i have succumbed to the abyss.. i am now... a demon.... go on without me...

>>57884634
for what it’s worth - even if it remains a two more weeks shitcoin throughout this upcoming cycle, it probably still touches 100 just because rising tide lifts all boats. if it doesn’t go on its own run im exiting 100% of my position

>>57884767
Op is right in that shitcoins seem to fly 2x in a couple days but link never has one of these “holy shit” days where it’s up 60%. The same whales pumping memes never seem to touch link. It’s truly bizarre. One day of $20 to $45 and it would run to ATH. Sir gey is the culprit

>>57884932
1. i wasn’t talking to you 2. what you said has nothing to do with what i was saying

>>57884013
Ngl I don't think anyone thought Eric Schmidt actually did any work and 99% it was to get networking

you are all fucking morons lmao

LINK will never outperform BTC or ETH. Ever. EVER.

it's pure delusion to think that it will do anything except die slowly and painfully while a fucking rock goes to 250k.

>>57883952
Another day, another reminiscence of picrel anon who sold the top in Aug 2020 and made a killing because of it. I'm sure just about all of us ignored our gut and better angels at the time but not him.

I agree, I wish I never came here and just found my own path because since building positions in other things it's actually felt like old times again. Come to think of it, Industrial Rhythm was likely the final nail in the coffin for me. Specifically, the exact moment when the dark man spun around on his bald dome head. I found Chris Barrett aka running/marketing guy's YouTube profile and Adem posted his IMDb profile the other day. That was lovely. Wonderful additions to his AI-generated selfies portraying him as a jacked viking. That's totally well-adjusted. They bring in Eric Schmidt and Sergay practically laughs off his advice about the dangers of having a wfh "workforce", thus flushing whatever fees he's receiving down the drain. He didn't even turn up last SmartCon.

And how's that rabid TA "expert" running rampant around here the last few days? Imagine coming to an anonymous forum and figuring if you just speak assuredly and authoritatively enough they'll all believe and care about your certain promises of expansion and assume your prestigious expertise, which is probably a $6k online trader course. All the same feelings and discourse and those better angels yelling as late 2020.

I had a crazy, cosmic experience recently, frens, where in a completely unrelated place I came across a conversation on plebbit. I will post a reply to continue this as it's a slow work day...

>>57885157
i still remember this day. thought he was dumb at the time too

>>57883952
>>57885157
Here, enjoy.

It probably tells you nothing you didn't already suspect, but seeing this laid out in a completely unrelated place, in a completely unrelated conversation, between two accounts with all manner of other posts, just because I happen to scroll that sub occasionally, blew my fucking face off. You might be seeing it on biz which makes you suspicious, but I scrolled through this on plebbit, as it was, during a conversation about Succession's dialogue. Can you imagine? I looked at his profile and it's genuine. He posts all sorts of stuff and has done for a while.

Assblaster was obviously an insider, but biz was also astroturfed by Sergey however much he needed to blow out the competition at the time. Not by Bulgarians, but Macedonians, though we could be excused that margin of error. Reading this was sort of like how I imagine confronting the secret family truth that was known but never properly discussed, always the elephant in the room that no one could admit to noticing or it would come alive. Biz was ripe at the time to be programmed into Sergey's vision so extremely that we're all still here today.

It's likely that less of these times past than you think, times which you reminisce warmly about and which comfort you after seven long years, were ever organic in the first place.

>>57885252
lol

>>57885252
https://www.reddit.com/r/redscarepod/comments/19d0i1t/comment/kj2km56/

I still can't believe it every time I read it.

>>57885252
Holy shit. So the whole advocate thing is just a continuation of this. Why didn't they keep the Eastern euro meme team, it worked way better

>57883952
>57884013
>57884211
>57884367
>57884588
>57884634
>h-hello fellow marines
>please read my fudcuck manifestos and unstake or sell
no
pool's full
all fields

>>57884378
obviously you have to fund it, but you'll have a choice to fund some shit tier bridge that will eventually end up compromised and drained, or use a CCIP bridge

Your overvalued dogshit will lose value versus Ethereum, you will cope your ass off on /biz/, and you will like it.

>>57885305
Using community advocates and influencers is stock standard. Most CT influencers I suspect made their bank through that shit too, and likely some degree of curating alt accounts that hedge slightly different predictions until a reputation is built up. I think this case is just so specifically a biz experience and it was so effectively done and well-timed that it still reverberates and the expectations of old promises still unfulfilled still clang around the chambers of this shit-filled dungeon daily. You have to think this is how a good chunk of these absurd "breadcrumbs" and information trails were dripfed.

>>57885351
is the widdle third world baby impotently raging because the pool's full? dawwwww let it all out lil guy

>>57884485
Most would be too weak to endure the abyss. Biz is just echoing whimpers and lunatics full of bitter

>>57885157
>>57885252
>>57885280
>>57885384
this is much better fud than the guy who keeps talking about cucks and low T, glad to see some above average IQ people still lurking about

>>57885252
>>57885280
I’m too tired, someone please spoon feed me. What is the Reddit thing saying exactly? Sergey has been astroturfing this whole time? Or other oracle competitors have been fudding Chainlink because they lost against them?

>>57885428
It is technically fud, but in the literal sense, not the one with an ulterior motive attached. I knew once I brought it up there will be the contingent who just want to deny and accuse etc, but you can poke around yourself in that thread and those profiles and make a determination as to how and what the balance of probabailities is that thay post would somehow be a psyop or planted or whatever. As I said, you have the problem of someone posting it on biz, but I didn't. I scrolled my way to it.

Any idiot would know Chainlink is active to at least some degree on biz. I just think it is (at least was) so much deeper and wider spread than we ever admit. There's always the vague accusation but it was the fundamental capital raising strategy for the project. It's not some le sekrit sleeper cell project of the elites, not kingmade, just the one oracle project whose Macedonian warehouse secured enough capital. And hey, they did hire a lot of real talent and absolutely have a killer vision, and what they have delivered is perfect, CCIP is an incredible idea, but it's no wonder to me why shit has taken so fucking long to deliver when this is the origin story. It's no exception to the usual seedy grungy tactics of this industry.

>>57885444
Only replying to your retard post because of trips. The post literally says Chainlink and its competitor both employed competing warehouses of whatever a Macedonian pajeet is called to astroturf biz in 2018/19. Chainlink were doing exactly the seedy subterfuge people are always claiming the ilk of Nexo et al are doing. If that fact alone is surprising, it shouldn't be, but hearing the scale and specifics and shamelessness is still shocking, particularly because you draw the conclusion so, so much was dirty old travelling salesman tricks specifically designed to trap the kind of personalities on biz.

>>57885485
Chainlink delivering perfect products really undermines the origin story, to me. Scam startups are going to produce scam products, not good products.

>>57885511
Thanks. What >>57885520 says is really fucking with my head though. Are we being scammed or not?

>>57885530
even if they have good products if there isn't enough demand to drive prices up it's kind of a scam in the sense that there were better plays in crypto to make it.

>>57884211
I feel you more than I can explain anon. Half of these retard kiddies itt probably bought their stacks at $10 and haven't had to live through the opportunity cost of holding LINK for as long as OGs have. It's truly tiring, having every breadcrumb in the world and still being outperformed by two fucking dog tokens

>>57885565
the real gains were the good times we had on 4chan along the way, fren

>>57885530
I could see Sergey doing it in response to an oracle project doing it to him, which would give you the outcome mr. homerow redditor witnessed after doing coke with someone. Assuming it's 2019 cuz that was the first notable link pump, the timeline fits for Witnet:
>starts in 2017
>loses out in 2019
>was never big enough for him to lose millions
>European HQ
In which case it could be Daniele Levi.

>>57885530
>Are we being scammed or not?
no lol, do you think a scam would garner excessive fud for 7 years straight?

>>57885575
I miss those days like you wouldn't believe, the hope, the memes, the positivity. Chainlink aged and I aged with it.

>>57885592
XRP gets FUD all the time and it's going nowhere

>>57885597
age is a mentality, though linkies were deluding themselves on the timeframe. businesses work in 10-20 year cycles, and link's first implementation is a business technology. it's still all true, but it takes time to chew through corporate bureaucracy and to train people in the tech needed for mass adoption.

>>57883952
the remarkable part with link hitting $400 is most of us still wont be able to get laid as a multimillionaires/decamillionaires

>>57885600
>XRP gets FUD all the time and it's going nowhere
lmao right it totally gets fudded like link, gtfo.

>>57885520
Looking through old information on him, he seems to be a very intelligent person, and honestly, his views on morality are as autistic as can be. I don't know him personally, but most people I've met irl that are like this have been very studious, and would never willingly engage or produce a "scam" unless it would bring them to attain a certain goal they had in mind.

Sergey kept talking about willing a goal into reality in his old posts, I wonder if he was doing that all these years

>quora.com/profile/Sergey-Nazarov

>>57885638
it does though

>>57885649
no it doesn't
people mostly ignore it

>>57885649
XRP baggies get made fun of, which isn't the same thing as the absolutely hysterical fud LINK gets (LINK baggies also get made fun of)

>>57885658
fair

>>57885658

>>57885511
SLOPPY JOB SIMEON

>>57885520
>>57885530
I don't really know if you can call it a scam. I'd stop short of that personally, at least an overt scam, but this still is a wizard of oz reveal given the constant suspicion of community advocates stalking here versus fudding Bulagarians. I just never see the idea that Chainlink fully astroturfed and pajeeted like others did as readily advertised as these other conspiracies. The embedded anonymity of biz is a unique grounds for this sort of thing. You can all draw your own conclusions.

>>57883952
Noone is forcing you to hold. If you don't like it and aren't then sell and buy something you think is better. Noone owes you anything so quit whining.

I don't really get what the big deal is if it's confirmed Chainlink astroturfed in the early days. It's literally 7 years ago at this point and on some level it's not even surprising.

Reality is Chainlink has produced extremely high quality software, and they're by far the most professional team in this dumb industry (note: most professional does not mean they're perfect). Another thing that makes me really care less about astroturfing 7 years ago is the fact that it's essentially confirmed that Ari Juels has been shitposting on /biz/ for years after we saw some excerpts from his latest book. That alone is far more intriguing and flat out weird to me.

Chainlink Labs as a company/entity/whatever is really strange to me. On one hand they seem very professional and they've hired unbelievable talent, but on the other hand we've got evidence that Ari Juels has been shitposting on /biz/ for years... just wtf?

>>57883990
I don't think it's actually a scam. They are just a bunch of highly incompetent people who had a pretty good idea but had no idea how to execute it correctly, so they've been stuck in decision paralysis for years, talented and experienced people keep joining the team and show high enthusiasm (Dahlia Malkhi, Alex Coventry, Kemal El Moujahid or Eric Schmidt) only to realize what a shitshow this company is within a year or so. Have you noticed how Kemal used to be so hyped up every time he spoke about product updates, and now he doesn't even bother showing up, stopped posting product updates etc.? There is stuff from the first whitepaper from 2017 that's still not even in the works, and Ari in a recent interview said he's still working on THEORETICAL FOUNDATION of their "superlinear staking" idea. 7 fucking years have passed and they're not even close to having an MVP, the company only exists because of constant token dumps. That's an equivalent of a startup getting billions of dollars in funding and 7 years later having AAR under a million dollars. Ridiculous.

>>57885983
>7 fucking years have passed and they're not even close to having an MVP, the company only exists because of constant token dumps.

And do not forget that "the team owes you nothing" so they're literally funded by investors that have no power over them. Hard to stay motivated like that. Most startups have their investors on their board keeping them in check and lighting fires up their asses if they don't deliver

>>57884211
you live inside your head and create little fun worlds by scrolling on a basket weaving forum. put your shit in a cold wallet and go get giddy over a herb garden or some shit you fuckin spastic

>>57885928
They never stopped astroturfing; they make marketing videos about the "story of Chainlink" in the same flavor as 20 year anniversary championship-winning sports team throwback documentaries as if generalizing the myth making process that worked on /biz/ could work on the rest of the world. The cumulative paper losses of posters in this thread probably paid for 6 months of this fake victory lap nonsense.

>>57885983
Ngl, hearing Ari say they were STILL WORKING on superlinear staking made me cold. Yet, you can't deny the connections. Best talent in the industry and almost anyone who is anyone from global finance (not Inc the BIS, lol) saying they are the future.

>>57886390
Having people talk about your product in glowing terms is one thing, but it's another thing for the people that are high on chainlink to go to their board and convince a bunch of boomers that they need to completely change how they operate.

They go to the conference's, run some proof of concepts and talk up the tech, because it makes them look like a modern forward thinking company, but that doesn't mean shit.

I mentioned it in another thread, but I know for (almost) a fact that ANZ, that did a proof of concept last year, is not actually interested in doing anything in the real world. There's like a 1 percent chance I'm wrong.

>>57885983
THE FAT MAN IS LOW ENERGY!
NO CEO MATERIAL!
HE'S A FUCKING PHILOSOPHER FOR FUCKS SAKE!
THE FAT MAN MUST STOP DOING THE DAILY BUSINESS OF THAT COMPANY AND HE SERIOUSLY NEEDS TO LOSE WEIGHT!

>>57885928
I must have missed this one. What's the proof of Ari's shitposting here? I'm actually quite unsurprised.

>some retard on reddit claims he knew a guy who tried to make a chainlink rip-off and hired slavs to spam shill it here, this confirms chainlink did this
Absolute mongoloid brain. Biz has never even gave a shit about any 'competitors'. The only 'competitor' for a while was band and it was a chink team so this redditor wouldn't know anyone there, and it was rightfully laughed off the board. Chainlink discussion was always pure organic old fashioned 4chan autism and anyone with half a brain can detect astro turf and low budget shills. Early chainlink days were autists doing breadcrumb research and digging white papers. It's only after chainlink became the top performing token in like 2018 that scammers took notice of biz and started spamming the place with jeets and bots without ever understanding why this was pointless because of the way 4chan operates on autism. Bunch of fucking retards.

>>57886752
>some retard on reddit claims
It was posted a month ago, most likely by a bored fuddie.
I'm certain that 99% of the posters ITT are 2021 tourists. Old /biz/ is dead.

>>57886520
>ANZ, that did a proof of concept last year, is not actually interested in doing anything in the real world.

tell us more pls anon

>ITS DA BOOOOLGARIANS

>>57884211
>>57885565
you were given a ridiculous return from $0.15 to $50 and most importantly given the confidence to actually put a decent amount of money into it (very few who started with nothing make any money from the scam tokens, just whales)

basically you guys were filtered
those with the smarts and ambition used the leg up chainlink gave them in both knowledge and cash to actually do something with their lives and contribute to chainlink or the broader ecosystem
sure some of them got distracted or misdirected but that is where old biz went

>>57885983
good effort fud post but remember to never include information that is wrong, just that which is ambiguous or that can't be proven (eg. insider)
>Have you noticed how Kemal used to be so hyped up every time he spoke about product updates, and now he doesn't even bother showing up, stopped posting product updates etc.?
this is just wrong
he did a q&a for q4 on twitter here:
https://twitter.com/chainlink/status/1737157602172129499
he did a podcast recently:
https://www.chainalysis.com/blog/web3-adoption-in-traditional-finance-kemal-el-moujahid-ep-79/
and is posting regularly on twitter

>>57886520
how do you "know for (almost) a fact" that anz isn't doing anything more with chainlink?
do tell us!
anz seemed very positive not too long ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-hxya9rZ4U

BASED LPL CHUDDIE KIDDOS HOW YOU DOING BASED KIDDOS POOLS CLOSED LPL SEETHE

>>57885511
>>57885280

>>57885588
Yeah, what makes me suspicious that Chainlink would willingly do this is that Chainlink tokens were already difficult to purchase from the start. You needed to purchase a minimum amount of Link with ETH to participate in the ICO. /biz/ crowd funded to get each other in the ICO. And while companies would normally pay for a listing on Binance, Binance bypassed the Chainlink team and opened a Chainlink listing. In addition, our memes are way higher quality than any other project in this space.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvJxjth9vtU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhH87Ub0uDc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzWjpjnRf-s

You won't find Macedonians making memes and videos like this.

I can agree that Chainlink may have experimented with astroturfing, but at the start, the community was purely organic. Else they wouldn't have made it so difficult to purchase link tokens in the first place and wouldn't be so mum on what they're working on and not have to be criticized to the point where they relented and became more transparent on stuff they've been delivering on.

most chainlink threads now are filled with newfags who bought above $10 trying to enter into the mind of the OGs and its hilarious

>>57885252
Actually deadly scary fud the best I've seen in 5 years.

>>57885511
>>57885252
sorry but wtf is this chainlink competitor from 2018/19 even supposed to be? Fucking Nexo?

Shit token worth 5 cents realistically. Swift makes no money, DTCC makes no money, really just unneeded idea. Unfortunately the endless waves of paypiggies can remain irrational longer than chainlink labs can remain insolvent.

>>57885588
Nice. There's no reason to suppose Daniele would have actual knowledge of the other side's shill farm though, he could just be mistaking og memes for shill memes. I don't even recall any notable trump or vapourwave link memes and I've been here since the presale.

everyone here was warned...

Look at the history of Sergey's last project (NXT). Go ahead, take a look at that chart.

Slavs have a natural ability to scam with no remorse. You are merely a stepladder for him. You gave him a little beginning funding and are no longer useful

can't find any witnet memes in the archive that fit the description
I did find this though lmao

>>57885252
Just sold it all. Fuck it. Catch you on the flipside Gs

Fudder's paradox: the intensity and the frequency of link fud belies its true value, as no one would be posting about it otherwise.

>>57885252
Good god what the fuck

>>57886078
You aren't getting the point of my thread, I'd love to CHILL if I had some fucking real money in my pocket. 50000 stack is worth 1M which is to say, not life changing money if you are an adult with bills and a mortgage

>>57885565
I'm glad someone understands. It's been a long time of disappointment, one long edge job

>>57885060
I see this now, he's been m.i.a. except for two interviews with sergey and one podcast. He sure pulled more weight for google, and I hoped he'd do for Sergey and Steve what he did for the other Sergey and Larry

>>57883990
Try saying "chainst-ink" without the dash. This board is owned and controlled by CLL. Imagine that you walk into a building and if you say anything negative about CLL they kick you out. And then you form your opinion of CLL based on what the people in that building say.

Leave the building and see what people think.

>>57889335
that's now what belies means you illiterate third worlder

>>57883952
the phenomenon you're describing is the same as growing up. you'll never regain your youth, you'll never be able to recapture the feelings you felt when the world was new and open. you're older now, and the realities of the world are too obvious to ignore, which undermines the childish vibes you wish you could regain.

i experienced this with a CS server back in the 1.6 days. NerdTreehouse was the name of the servers, and it was an awesome community of guys that just loved playing the game. but eventually Village didn't want to shell out the cash or time any more to maintain the servers, and everybody just dispersed. it was the high of my video-gaming life, and i'll never hit it again. but wisdom entails accepting those facts of life and moving on rather than trying to hold the future still trying to regain the past.

/biz/ will never be like that again, anon. it's profoundly sad, but it's a beautiful sadness because it happened at all.

>>57889615
they censored that word because of the nonstop fuddie spam completely shitting up the board lol

>>57889634
thanks for correcting the record advocate
kys

>>57884085
He's right, but bread will be $10K/loaf.

>>57884485
>t. GME hodler

>>57886970
Well, yeah I should've sold 3-4 years ago and split my profits into everything else. Yes. I realize I would probably be worth millions if I just sold for whatever was in the top 25, and now I am losing hope that I'll ever be worth millions because this team seems hell bent on stretching this project out as long as humanely possible.

There are evil spirits in this thread.

May God have mercy on your corrupt souls.

>>57885631
hrm, so it looks like 3 days is the sweet spot. so basically it's lift for all the major muscle sets over 4 days, then fast for 3, fuel up, and begin again? i might try this. the wife has done an amazing job getting her college body back after 3 kids, and i'm feeling the push to get big again so i can throw her around like in those days. i might try this.

>>57889934
this
begone evil spirits
the power of christ compels you
the power of christ compels you

I don't think that's a real human.

>>57886970
>given the confidence to actually put a decent amount of money into it
Few understand. It was a really safe bet by crypto standards. Not really surprising it eventually started to underperform.

/biz/ got a little too carried away, the people who bought LINK were very envious of ETHs massive bullrun, they so desperately wanted those type of gains that they did anything to delude themselves into thinking LINK could do the same. Sadly this is not the case.

>>57886970
old biz is gone because /biz/ is shit now
what we're doing instead is irrelevant
we still lurk from time to time tho

>>57885157
>DIDNT READ; NEVER SELLING, FUDDIE :^)

>>57888461
>multi billion dollar black hole in chainlinks finances
honestly I believe it. Sergey embezzled all that money. There's no way he spent $3+ billion which he gained from dumping at the top on paying devs. his mass dumping behavior doesn't point to having a "massive warchest" like the advocates say.
The fact that he chose to incorporate in the cayman Islands shows that he's well aware of offshore shell companies. Like his fellow countrymen like putin and the russian oligarchs he's probably embezzled billions into various secret offshore bank accounts.
Corruption and embezzlement is second nature to the slav, like breathing in water is to the fish.
Nobody ever asks chainlink where all that money is and why they need to keep dumping even at $5 LINK.

>>57892010
Yep. Sergey's prior crypto experience ie NXT was basically at trial run on how to setup the perfect grift. I bet if someone were to ask him, he has zero regret about the way that ended. He probably doesn't even remember it.

Kushti's line about "saying crazy things to investors" really resonates here. You can see it play out the last few years where he announces new products that are still in idea stage. And all the "quadrillions" bullshit being thrown around and regurgitated by all of the team members. It's like he sat down and taught all of the employees his sales pitch rhetoric like Jordan Belfort in Wolf of Wall St.

All of this makes the "truth>trust" marketing campaign even more sociopathic.

>>57885280
Oh my god

Chainlink is really weird. Why are they hiring failed actors.. I guess hiring actors makes sense for a scam pretending to be a real company

>>57883952
LINK is a long term hold and nothing else in blockchain has as much potential.
If LINK doesn't work out then the entire space is a failure/scam.
Price predictions are pointless because the value of the product is basically unknown territory until it fully releases and is implemented.
If Trump wins the election in November expect a potentially short term possible shenanigans pump on crypto like never before seen in human history.
Of course in four days we will also see what happens with the banking situation over commercial real estate.
We live in interesting times.

>>57892778
This dude is bad news, showing himself running in every city, photoshopping himself, posting luxury lifestyle shots while the token underperformed the entire market, tweeting retard shit like orakles

>>57885280
>>57885252
so some retard, probably Mobius or something, was paying shills to try to compete with organic chainlink memes, and got BTFO, so he started coping by saying that the chainlink memes were also astroturfed shit. basically link marines constantly cause cope and seething.

>>57892778
Dude is without a doubt Sergeys handler. Seems like a good looking chill dude.

>>57893985
This is the vibe I’m getting its a third party retard explaining a story from a scamming retard that probably didn’t even understand Chainlink in the first place.

>>57884013
wow it's almost like advisors in crypto are just to bamboozle more deluded retards, 2017 ICO 101 strategy

>>57884211
feel for you bro
and add damu to list, guys a legend
fucking fantastic time to be alive, now its just soulless shit all over again :--/

>>57894002
>t. Chris Barrett

>>57884013
this is a great point, schmidt is only worth $20b so wouldn't have been able to afford a boat without sergey's dump

>>57883952

Link hasn’t even started.

>>57894487
Like he said, he stopped "advising", strangely around the time he gave up on buying that shitty yacht

>>57894799
wow good point! thanks anon

>even if I get stupidly rich it just won't be le same my nostalgia and emotional attachment to random obese incels will never come back it's over

>>57883952
amazing, sergey changed tokenomics and even has time to get on multiple podcasts and CNBC to talk about Bitcoin rather than Chainlink lol. Sergey lied to everyone hahaha. This really is the next XRP.

>>57895273
XRP at least made people rich.

>>57895074

>>57884634
>They trusted Ed at Arbitrum
Anon is wondering what happened, honestly this was the turning point for me.
CL never felt the same after this absolute rug, just looking at Ed I should have known.
Everything fizzled out once it was obvious that CLL had no allies, had to make it all on their own.

>>57894414
He spawned the biggest cringe I've ever had to witness, right after the kiddification of pepe, mumu and bobo trash, linkmarines.

Really nice thread, thanks fudkeks!
It's such a breath of fresh air to see fud with some actual thought and world building put behind it. Deranged rambling just isn't funny any more, so hopefully we'll see more of this type of fud coming from your discord now that you seem to have a new member or two.

>>57893985
I think this is closer to the truth.

I vividly remember the time poorly copypasted Chainlink memes started flooding this board.
It happened on telegraph, signal and discord too. Just take fresh anon memes, modify it slightly and there you go.
It's one massive cope of his shithouse getting dabbed on by absolute 4utists.

The story of 4chan and the internet really ('08 newfag alumni).

>>57889825
I sold 50% of my link stack to other projects that would pump more than link. Funnily most of them also dumped more than link did and I was waiting for the blow-off top of the bullrun that never came. In the end I doubled my link stack so not so bad. There will always be stories how someone made even more than you. If you invested early in link you should be in a good position. Throw some small sums to shitcoins this time though so you don't need to feel left out.

>>57886570
interested too

all i know is chainlink gon be biger than butcoin. citi bank told me so

>>57883952
My dearest friend, 'tis with immense pleasure that I inform you that your letter has found safe travel to my destination and landed in my hands. However, this pleasure was fated to remain short lived and bittersweet, for I must also admit to you, regardless of what distress it may cause you, knowing you went to great trouble to pen it and deliver it to me, that I in fact declined to open it and refused to read the message contained within. Surmising your intentions, there exists no doubt in my heart regarding your sincere worries for my financial well being, but alas your attempts to convince me to modify my investment strategies shall regretfully remain futile, as my stubbornness in this matter has indeed been sealed irrevocably and no other voice shall rock its impenetrable foundations. Allow me to reiterate my will once more, and do your best to forever remember it for no change will follow; I shant part ways with my beloved asset, for it is my utmost belief that I have invested wisely and foresee infinite potential in its future, and therefore no other possession in this world shall change my decision, not even a mountain of gold! For my posessed is indeed fated to be worth more than any other riches in the world. We shant speak of this more. Sincerely yours, your beloved friend.

>>57885252
If you understand the oracle problem you understand that LINK is inevitable. There is nothing any plebbitor or Macedonian can say or do.

BASED LPL CHUDDIE KIDDOS HOW YOU DOING BASED KIDDOS POOLS CLOSED LPL SEETHE

HA HA HA

you midcurved the trade. high IQ's realized 99% of the value was from the narrative and not any delivered product/functionality. they took healthy profits and will never touch it again, as narratives always shift to new coins.

link's revenue was 40m in 2023, basically lemonade stand tier

>>57885983
The problem with LINK is that there is no need to connect real world data to blockchains. Blockchain is mostly a solution in search of a problem, so there's no use case for it. Memecoins and memecoin facilitators, as in ETH and SOL, are the better investment outside of BTC.

>>57898600
>high IQ's realized 99% of the value was from the narrative and not any delivered product/functionality
Crypto as a technology is actual shit. Almost every coin is a memecoin, so if you want to make money buying and selling stories to one another the best way to do so is with actual memecoins and AI coins, since AI is the latest narrative in Tech. Alternatively you can just own the casino via ETH and SOL.

>>57899124
Did you miss all of those interviews with banking execs saying that they all desperately need blockchain tech? They made a whole website for it.

>>57899197
correct. link was definitely the trade at some point, but new coins will always outperform old dinosaur narratives.

actual demand for the token from the utility(pricefeeds, ccip, etc) needs to 1000x before it becomes relevant. in the dream scenario of thousands of banks adopting and using chainlink and creating significant open market demand for the token is like 10-20 years away(if ever) and you'll have plenty of time to buy as adoption SLOWLY grows

>>57885575
I forgot to cash out

>>57898358
I waited 60 sec just to say, kys and fuck chainshit and fuck sergay

>>57884211
The initial hype phase is over. You will never experience again the same level of hype in this project again. A second smaller hype phase may still be coming in the next years.
However Sergey let /biz/ get destroyed and completely ignored the importance of the community with his autism.
He is paying the price now for it with a devalued token price valuing his inability to act as a leader when facing evil, and his passive aggressive stand towards his investors.

The wallet analysis of the short sellers was rewarded by betrayal and inaction, rewarding the short sellers in the end.
The lesson to learn from this is that the short sellers were right and you should not fight them next time but make an alliance instead, and that it was a waste of time to work for free to help against the price manipulation.
That time would have been better spent trading another asset, or even shorting Chainlink.
If you want to get more of something, you have to reward it.

However it's good that you are now able to be more neutral with your investment.
That will make it very easy for you to sell it.

>>57884485
Sergey manifests betrayal.
He believes betrayal to be an expected outcome, which is the source of his ambition to create a math based alternative.
Betraying his investors on this path because that's what he believes in.
The truth is that's an unhealthy belief and he needs a therapy to release the energy associated with that past memory.
The journey will end once you realize that Sergey is not an ideal, but the manifestation of weakness.
Then you will finally be free.

BASED LPL CHUDDIE KIDDOS HOW YOU DOING BASED KIDDOS CHUDDIE LPL POOLS CLOSED SEEEEETHEEEEE

>>57885485
Didn’t read , spoon feed me the point your trying to make?

>>57885565
Huh? You bought at $.17 and aren't selling right now at $20? And you're crying about it?

>>57901433

>>57901500
whats this... FUCKING BASED LPL CHUDDIE KIDDO SHIT???

>>57901692

So the funds are going to these kind of shit?

>>57886078
best post in the thread. even got him to respond. nice

>>57886078
Kek

>>57883952
Chainlink tokenomics is run by retards.

>>57885252
dont believe that larp one bit
if a warehouse of macedonians existed that could make the memes like those back then, they would be the apex predator of the shitcoin space and be kingmaking project after project to fill their pockets to billionaire status
however never has such a memetic force ever been encountered again, quite the opposite poor duplicates were made trying to capture that initial feeling

people are just coping and seething at the pure unfiltered power of organic autism and the reach it has

with that being said i do fully believe in the very early days tha being 2017 the team posted the initial breadcrumbs here and stoked some hype, but the memes, the spread of it all in 2018-19 that was anons working together on a coming goal without corrupted jannies actively trying to kill the board
i mean lol the insinuation that any random macedonian warehouse could pull off the biggest meme campaign in years and then disappear from the earth is preposterous

>>57904350
Could not have said it better. Any third world warehouse that could put out the God tier LINK golden-era memes would be the absolute kings of crypto memetics and would be world famous by now.

>Sergey only gave /biz/ a 200x
>he betrayed us, it was all a scam!
what kind of schizo thread is this?