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$500 max

Why would I use a software wallet

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>>57678064
buy a ledger

>>57679618
>trusting a closed source frog europoor sketchy company with your money

>>57679630
everyone serious uses a ledger

>>57678064
Never trust those browser wallets. You never know when you might be infected with some keylogger or something. Only use them for brief transactions with other sites. A hardware wallet is better of course but even a cell phone with no service is better than a hardware wallet so long as you don't use it for web browsing and don't load a lot of apps on it.

>>57678064
I would put some in a yielding IRA, fren.

THIS IS NOT FINANCIAL ADVICE

>>57678064
I had 900k in mine but moved it earlier this year to a trezor
I even torrented and shit, too. You have to be a tard to get "hacked".

Faggots in this board will try to sell you on a hardware wallet. Don't. They bought one to feel special, and that's it. It's literally not worth it and they are just as vulnerable as extension wallets. I got all my money on my Rango wallet because I like their swap service and literally nothing ever happens.

>>57678167
that's too much, 200$ at most to keep up with gas an anything needed to pocket change

>>57679630
Anyone with almost 50% of working braingwould use trustwallet instead

140k on coinbased since 2015, chuds will rage because they know I am smart
>NOOOO DA JOOS WILL FRACTIONAL LEND YOUR CRYPTO
lol I don't care nerd. Can't hack me

>>57681073
Yeah i felt the same way 2 years ago when Some eth where drainded true a security breach on Metamask

>>57681073
no I bought one because I realized I have over one million dollars worth in a fucking browser wallet and one malware infection means I lose everything.
retard

>>57679648
Tbh i tough the same once now ledger just looks like a fucking meme

>>57678064
Can you send me 1k?

Anons, how do you feel about paper wallets? I've been wanting to setup my seedphrase in a clean VM, then memorizing or writting parts of the seed phrase somewhere.
Also, I would store the public address on my machine so I can use it as a deposit wallet. And then, only cashout in a clean VM too.
What do you think? I'm going to do this with a few different wallets and only use a VM when cashing out a single one of each. What do you think?

>>57678064
I've currently got $1.58 million AUD on my Metamask wallet, never had a problem but I don't sign contracts or anything just send my crypto to it and hold it there until I want to eventually send it back to a CEX to cash out.

>>57682286
irresponsible
every so often there are bugs where you can look at something and it's enough to infect you
there was a bug in image handling some time ago
there was a bug in font handling
you just load a page, it can even be an ad, and it's over.
There's no possible way to have a fully secure pc.

>>57681073
Yeah idk why people overcomplicate this or try to make it seem that hardware wallets are any less vulnerable than software wallets. Just don't be a fucking retard, watch what contracts you're signing, and and don't download or visit shady websites. uBlock Origin is enough to protect you from 99% of bullshit online
>>57681144
Stop making fuck up you leaked your seed phrase or connected to some shady website
>>57681170
Then split that shit up using multiple browsers with multiple wallets and multiple devices. Having all your wealth centrally in once wallet is retarded

>>57682366
it's completely normal to have everything on a ledger.

>>57678064
Put on one of those staking sites like celcius that pays good apy!

What if someone feels blessed today and donate me 2k$. I know its more like a dream, and its quite impossible that a anon will donate me 2k$, if this gonna really happened from this post, I will seriously open a coffe shop and update on my next post. My 8 years dream to build a coffe shop. I know this will never gonna happen, but i wish something magical would happened from this post.

If anyone want to donate, my mail bonsogdistra@gmail.com, please reach me through the mail if you are feeling blessed today and want to change someones life : )

Though i have only 0.1% hope left on my mind. Lets see what happened : )

>>57682418
post hand

>>57682308
I've been using Metamask since late 2018, and like I said I've never had a problem with it so far. The only "security measure" I take is by having it as an extension on Microsoft Edge, which I don't use as my default browser. I still download torrents and that kind of stuff all the time but I obviously don't just click on any executable file.

>>57682390
>normie
Redditors deserve to lose all their money

>>57682427
what do you mean to say, can you please explain?

>>57682439
He wants to see you hand, with a timestamp. rtt

>>57682484
If anon isn't taking the piss, and we have new friends here, then maybe the bull really is back

>>57682484
And why is this for? is he really want to help me with 2k$ for coffee shop opening?

>>57678064
that's crazy, get a ledger immediately

>>57678064
$1k

>>57682427
Can you please send me an email to bonsogdistra@gmail.com, so that I can send you there.

>>57682696
post it here

>>57678064
metamask support qr cold wallets anon

>>57682716
Will you help me then if possible?

>>57682765
it's possible

I have about 150k in crypto and keep almost a third of it on cuckbase, I'm not ashamed anymore. If it's good enough for Blackrock its good enough for me.

>>57682772
Here you go. So what now?

>>57682828
hmm, unclear results
what about the other side?

>>57678064
I have about $20k that I sent to a nice lady in Asia that’s going to teach me how to invest it on her trading platform. I think she might be sick because I haven’t heard from her in a week.

>>57679630
if you're using anything made with non-White (mutt, chink, sandnigger) hands you've already lost.

>>57681857
>clean VM
the only isolation that works is hardware. using a virtual machine is like turning on airplane mode. asking backdoored software nicely not to kike you isn't a valid security mode.

>>57682871
I don't know what is the connection between hands picture to help someone out. I dont even know if you are joking or just trolling. Are you judging by the color of skin?

>>57683016
I'm curious if he's Indian. The posted hand makes it possible but unclear.
Looks like that's all I'm getting

>>57683208
I'm pretty sure he is brazilian, given the surroundings. The door and the bathroom walls give a brazilian vibe.

>>57682990
Then a rapsberry pi freshly installed should do the trick?
How could a VM be kiked though? Never heard of that

>>57683288
I visited Rio once. It was pretty fun, but I don't drink anymore now and I don't want AIDS.

>>57683208
No, I am not indian. I am from Bangladesh. If you really may help me out please reach me through the mail I already provided before, bonsogdistra@gmail.com

>>57683461
>Bangladesh
no I'm not giving you money lmao. I already knew you were brown from your shameless begging, but that didn't exactly narrow it down. Now I know who I should be more racist to in the future.

>>57683360
If you fucked the bitches with a condom you're safe. What about the drinking? What happened?

>>57683310
the only way people used to use virtual machines before everyone realized it didn't help enough was to keep a computer cleaner by running day to day activities in virtual machines. doing the opposite, trying to run clean activities in a vm is worthless.

a brand new computer of any kind you can via hardware prevent talking to the internet will work, but a hardware wallet is easier for people who dont want or don't know how to do it themselves. or who use multisig and then running multiple full computers for each key becomes too excessive for an individual to manage since they all have to be different machines and OSes.

>>57678064
That doesn't even make any sense. Security boils down to your weakest link. Unironically the dumber the better, keep your seed on something physical (like literally written or engraved) and in a safe.

You would have to be retarded to get "hacked"

>>57684201
you have to generate it first and figure out what the address is

>>57678064
I can keep millions in a self-custody smart wallets that use SSI, just like BrillionFi. The security architec is worth it.

>>57684201
The concern regarding seed phrases has prompted a shift in preference. Projects incorporating account abstraction offer a better solution, eliminating the need to worry about seed phrases.

>>57682926
france isn't white lmao
trezor is a company from an actual white country, try that one shitskin

>>57678064
$2k max in 20 different wallets.

>>57678064
200k bunch of pussies on here

>>57684125
I just bought a brand new chromebook and made a fresh wallet there and keep it disconnected from internet. No need to mess around with hardware.

>>57681098
>using anything with a terms & conditions policy

>>57685053
this
Trezor is the only hardware i'd use

>>57678064
>>57678064
metamask is purely for shitcoin gambling and nothing else, it should never have more than $100 on it

>>57682431
why wouldnt you just use a separate computer for only crypto shit? you are a millionaire, you can afford a basic security precaution like a low end $300 laptop that you keep constantly updated and patched and never use for anything except your crypto while your other non-crypto machine is for sketchy porn sites and torrenting

>>57685053
>this is how brown-eyes cope

>>57686159
trezor has no physical security, it was hacked by someone just connecting it to a special device.
Ledger has a secure element, it's an infinitely safer choice.
Maybe there are other hardware wallets with secure elements.
Security hierarchy is like that:
1 hardware wallets with secure elements (ledger, ?)
2 mobile wallets (modern phones have internal secure vaults, but the attack surface is infinitely larger than a hardware wallet)
3 shitty hardware wallet without a secure element like trezor
4 pc wallets (browser, or separate wallet app)

Security aside what I like about the ledger is that it looks like a pendrive.

>>57687900
new trezor does, but the first two which were the only ones sold for a full decade were useless but you're completely wrong, mobile wallets are infinitely less secure then even trezors

the actual hierarchy for singlesig is permanently offline computers >>>> diy hardware wallets >> tamper-resistant hardware wallets >> other hardware wallets >>> ios devices in lockdown >>>> other mobile devices >> desktop wallets.

for multi-sig it's a compltely different story

>>57688123
Mobile wallets keep keys inside a secure vault in a phone, you can't hack it even with root. It needs an exploit for the secure vault.
The practical difference is that nothing happened if you lost your phone with a wallet on it, but losing a trezor meant (if someone competent got it) you could lose everything.

>>57688229
security theater. malware on the phone has full access and only has to wait for you to unlock the wallet to sign a transaction in the worst case scenario before it can exfiltrate everything.

phones instead of hardware wallets is peak midcurve.

>>57688344
you have no idea how new phones even work lol.
Arm cpus have the equivalent of intel sgx.
What you wrote is literally impossible without breaking the security of the vault on the chip. Which is possible but way beyond some random guy.
This is the reason why when moving to a new phone banking etc. apps don't transfer data, all data is on the secure element and not accessible by backups.

>>57688360
>security theater
chip isolation is weak and fundamentally broken when operating in a device also running malicious code. secure elements will do whatever the os asks them to do.

if you can sign transactions on your phone, so can malware. don't give advice for things you don't understand.

>>57688399
>if you can sign transactions on your phone, so can malware.
no, the wallet code is signed and the process and all its data is separated by the vault. This includes the code for displaying the transaction information.
It's impossible to break that without having an exploit for either Arm TrustZone (on a particular chip) or for the wallet itself.
In design, this is the same as a hardware wallet, the difference is that exploits against TrustZone are much more likely because of how complex and widely used it is.
>don't give advice for things you don't understand.
exactly, stfu. You have an idea how it all used to work in 2010 at the latest.

>>57683461
>>57682828
holy kek

>>57678064
make 3 metamask wallet bruh.If I were you, i will diversify it just like that. one wallet is for opensea to just flip nft, another one for investing and the last one I’ll keep it to do a raffle in eesee to get more supply of RWAs.

>>57688458
signing the app itself doesn't prevent malware running within ring zero or equivalent from pretending to do anything the app is doing. how do you think all of that kike malware gets into peoples phones? you think they got apple or google to sign it? you think it's unable to access the data stores of other apps? you're clueless.

malware has no problem inserting itself above the code that protects signatures. maybe ios in lockdown can protect some of these flaws with a true chain of trust, but on android you're fucked.

you really don't understand how the security model for these things work at all. please stop embarrassing yourself.

>>57688512
>ring 0
are you some boomer who last had anything to do with hardware security on windows nt with softice? holy shit
go to sleep grandpa
>how do you think all of that kike malware gets into peoples phones
messages and calls aren't protected by the security enclave, having root access doesn't give access to data in secure enclave.
>malware has no problem inserting itself above the code that protects signatures
it's literally impossible without breaking the TrustZone, which all relies on signed code from the start. You have absolutely no idea how any of this works.
>but on android you're fucked.
there's no security difference today, ios being more secure is just marketing. The price for exploits on both is basically the same.

>>57686237
Metamask is the extension not the wallet.