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>> No.57654536
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OPEN THE FUCKING MARKETS

>> No.57654747 [DELETED] 

ҽαɾɳ ϝɾҽҽ ɠιϝƚƈαɾԃʂ αʂ ɱαɳყ ƚιɱҽʂ αʂ ყσυ ɯαɳƚ αɳԃ ɾҽʂҽʅʅ ιƚ ϝσɾ ρɾσϝιƚʂ, ɾҽαԃ ƚԋҽ ρԃϝ αƚ ƚԋҽ ʅιɳƙ ზҽʅσɯ

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>> No.57654758

IOVA is at 15 dollars in EU's market right now.

Tuesday is going to be so good bros.

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>>57654758
15 Euros* my bad.

>> No.57654806

>>57654768
>>57654758
That was on my radar last month, feels bad man

>> No.57654836

https://github.com/vosen/ZLUDA

CUDA moat = broken
Nshittia to $100

>> No.57654872
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>>57654836
Wrong. Nvidia will continue to advance from strength to strength and fuck the competition raw.

>> No.57654899

why was this baked?

>> No.57655742

>>57654899
Because

>> No.57656122
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BURGER
KING

>> No.57656255

I can't wait for them to open the markets so we can make some fucking money.

>> No.57656356
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>Cuny university

>> No.57656635

>>57654481
Open markets lazy Americans

>> No.57656636

I'm watching what's going on in futes and option flows and if this is any indication, nshittia is going to be raped on Wednesday

>> No.57656648 [DELETED] 

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>> No.57656816 [DELETED] 

ҽαɾɳ ϝɾҽҽ ɠιϝƚƈαɾԃʂ αʂ ɱαɳყ ƚιɱҽʂ αʂ ყσυ ɯαɳƚ αɳԃ ɾҽʂҽʅʅ ιƚ ϝσɾ ρɾσϝιƚʂ, ɾҽαԃ ƚԋҽ ρԃϝ αƚ ƚԋҽ ʅιɳƙ ზҽʅσɯ

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>> No.57657095

>>57654481
>first habit is wake up
Just drop that habit and all problems in life go away.

>> No.57657151 [DELETED] 

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>> No.57658908

Bump

>> No.57658976
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>>57658908
>not saying NATGAS AND OIL instead

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>> No.57659433

>>57658976
Because it's still too early to touch those

>> No.57659499

are you bullish or bearish, give me your best thesis

>> No.57659506

>>57659433
Not OIL and KOLD though I am about to cut my KOLD loose because this shit is getting breddy deep, even though I know it can go even deeper.

>> No.57659513
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>>57659433
mmmmmmm touch these instead

>> No.57659522

If NVDA doesn't pump on the upcoming earnings, it's not going to pump on earnings after that.

>> No.57659543

>>57659499
Crabbish. Everything is effeciently priced.

>> No.57659571
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>>57654872
Where can I read this comic?

>> No.57659618
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WTFWT?

>> No.57659624
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Big Lots $BIG in trouble:
If they don't quickly return to profitability bankruptcy is likely. Shorts are betting on it, 22% of outstanding shares shorted.
But after 6 quarters of deeply horrible negative EPS figures, things are starting to look up,
>$0.16 positive EPS for Q3 due to "gains on the sale of real estate and related expenses"
>EPS is expected to be strongly improved YoY for Q4, retails strongest quarter
>inflation is still hitting hard, consumers are ditching TGT and WMT, favoring budget stores instead

Currently BIG is trading close to ATL ($135M mc) and in Q4 2023 Michael Burry (Scion Asset Management) bought in with 225,000 shares, per the latest 13F.
Share price as of last friday is $4.62, making it a cheap gamble. Of course there is a meme short squeeze element in play as well.
>Price/Sales (ttm) 0.02
>Price/Book (mrq) 0.34
Once cost savings are in and EPS is profitable, P/E ratio is expected to go to 20-30, same as Dollar General, Dollar Tree, TJ Maxx, Ollie's, Wallmart, Target. So far they sold their California distribution center (Apple Valley) and 23 stores. But if they survive long enough Burry may be interested because there is an opportunity for an extremely aggressive share buyback play.
>$159M allocated for share buybacks
>current market cap of $135M
>ample liquidity thanks to 22% short interest

If in the following quarters they can reduce their losses and scramble enough cash for A) general business B) debt down payments and C) share buybacks they can buy up to 99% of shares outstanding.

Preliminary Q4 results:
>"we generated substantial cash flow in the quarter, which was used to pay down debt on our $900 million asset-based lending facility."
Very high risk play, could make returns for shareholders exponentially higher should they manage to return to their historical annual net income of $100M+.
>current net loss $-463M (TTM)
>could allow the company to take advantage of their low stock price (price/sales 0.02, price/book 0.34)

>> No.57659627
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>studio apartments average like 1800 dollars where I live
>jobs asking for a degree and 3-5 years of experience have a pay range between 60 and 70,000
>you would spend more than 1/3 of your monthly income on rent if you were in a studio
>cheap rentals are boomers renting out their extra rooms to people for the 'low' price of 700 dollars
>remember in college I could get a room for rent for 100 bucks years ago
How do you fix an inherently broken economy where wages are perpetually too low and costs are perpetually too high? (the answer is killing all the boomers).

>> No.57659631

>>57659627
Where the fuck do you live? San Francisco?

>> No.57659639
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>>57659627
>How do you fix an inherently broken economy where wages are perpetually too low and costs are perpetually too high?
End the fed.

>> No.57659661

>>57659627
>living in cities
Step 1
STOP
GURGLING
COOM

>> No.57659678

>>57659571
Google Raiders of the Lost Shadilay.

>> No.57659700 [DELETED] 

>>57656636
Then instead of averaging in my money will go into NVDL. Either way I make bank.

>> No.57659751
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>invest in this and that
>numbers go up
Why is this stock thing so 'hard' for some people?

>> No.57659781
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>>57659499
bearish
here's my rundown

>yield curve un-inverting after the longest inversion ever
>unemployment rising above the 2-yr moving avg after reaching a near all-time low
both are very accurate near-term leading indicators of a recession

>fed's own odds of recession peak at 71% in may
Since 1970, if this went over 33%, they were correct

in terms of their post-WWII trends:
>real S&P prices: +1.5std dev (top 7% all time)
>real S&P/GDP ratio: +1.6std dev (top 6%)
>real S&P P/E ratio: +1.5std dev (top 7%)
>real S&P vs. interest rates: +0.9std dev (top 19%)
last time these all peaked simultaneously was 00-01. If you had invested then, it would've taken 15 years just to break even
by any metric US equities are overvalued

real estate is also way above trend relative to interest rates (well past 08 in terms of severity)

commodities and emerging markets stand a chance to do better in the coming years vs. US stocks (note better does imply good, mind you)

I want a crash because I have savings but a 70's style decade of stagflation (crab) seems likely as well

>>57659639
based & fuck ZIRP

>>57659751
everyone's a genius in a bull market

>> No.57659796

>>57659751
top signal, just set my stop losses, thanks

>> No.57659803

>>57659781
* does NOT imply good fml

>> No.57659836

>>57659781
I'm getting a massive amount of shares from my employer in May so the recession better not come before that

>> No.57659848
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>tl;dr China is looking to flood the global market with advanced manufacturing goods such as EV, Solar panel, lithium-ion batteries, windmills, etc. USA and EU are preparing to escalate a war with China if this happens

From Financial Times:
>Washington has warned Beijing that the US and its allies will take action if China tries to ease its industrial overcapacity problem by dumping goods on international markets, according to American officials.
>“We are worried that Chinese industrial support policies and macro policies that are more focused on supply rather than thinking about where the demand will come from are both careening towards a situation where overcapacity in China...is going to wind up hitting world markets,” said Jay Shambaugh, the under-secretary for international affairs, who recently led an economic team to Beijing.
>The US is most concerned about advanced manufacturing, and particularly clean energy sectors such as electric vehicles, solar panels and lithium-ion batteries.

We are also seeing elites massively selling their stocks as they prepare for this Armageddon. Prices of goods with drop and corporations will no longer be able to profit

Source: https://archive.is/cngdR#selection-2329.0-2338.0

Uhm bros, are we gonna be okay...? How do I profit from this stocks wise?

>> No.57659850

>>57659836
>tfw my next vest is in august

>> No.57659854

>>57659627
“I know what I got”

>> No.57659859

>>57659848
how the fuck does this make any sense? the #1 proponent of a free market is pissed that the market is too free?

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>>57659848
>raw materials become dirt cheap
>oyy veyy we can't allow this!!!
My hatred for the antichrist grows with each passing day.

>> No.57659886

>>57659859
You know what's funnier is that because so much american stuff is fucked up by indians now I would probably take the chance of chinese crap that's 50% cheaper over american-indian garbage that costs more and breaks just as often.
>JUST REDUCE QUALITY WHILE KEEPING THE PRICES HIGH
>WE'RE NUMBER 1

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>>57659859
>2024
>the #1 proponent of a free market

>> No.57659898

>>57659848
>We are also seeing elites massively selling their stocks as they prepare for this Armageddon
source?

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>>57659678
Thanks>>57659678

>> No.57660002

>>57659859
>China
>free market

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>>57659848
isn't this going to help inflation, one of the biggest economic concerns of the past 3 years?

>> No.57660049

>>57660040
>help inflation
Inflation happened because the amount of currency in circulation increased. It has nothing to do with the price of goods.

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>>57660002
>be the incompetent, corrupt neocons currently running the United States
>totally destroy US industry by offshorimg it to China with free trade deals
>now that the US might finally stand to benefit from cheap goods, cancel the free trade agreements
>hire an army of government-funded NGO shills to gaslight everyone about why this was a good idea

>> No.57660058

>>57660002
they can do whatever they want internally, externally they would just be selling their stuff to the rest of the world, I don't see why Uncle Sam would have any right to be pissed about that.

>> No.57660089

>>57660058
>I don't see why Uncle Sam would have any right to be pissed about that.
Same right China thinks it has playing unfair
These yellow niggers dont even know what they are fucking with

>> No.57660095

>>57659898
bill gates, warren buffet and bezos sold off some shit.

It didn't look like much at first but honestly I can see them selling a LOT more shit soon if this escalates kek

>> No.57660112

That China shit makes me really glad that I got an overkill gaming PC with a 4090 and some other good quality parts.

The 5000 nvidia series will probably go up 5x in price if a trade war happens....

>> No.57660151

>>57660095
It was like 1% each, I wouldn't run for the hills just yet

>> No.57660160
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So whats the best Bitcoin ETF on the stock market? GBTC and BITW both have 2%+ management fees. IBIT is 100% bitcoin and says 0.25% fee, so I was thinking of getting that.

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>>57659848
Is this bullish for YINN?

>> No.57660168

>>57660160
IBit, but why not just buy bitcoin itself?

>> No.57660185

>>57660168
I have some, probably buy more, but its just easier to manage ETFs on my brokerage.

>> No.57660195

>https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/02/19/capital-one-acquiring-discover-financial-services-report-says.html
Boys. I bought DFS at a $88 dollar average in September after they shit on earnings and had a new CEO. I’m rich.

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>>57659848
>we're going to die over solar panel prices
can anyone do an early life check on the current CEOs of western solar panel companies?

>> No.57660213

>>57660151
If Bezos were to sell like 360 million shares or some crazy shit, RUN

>> No.57660228
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Is it the right moment to invest in REAL ESTATE? the time to invest in real estate it seems is always. fucking faggots will buy at any price there is no ceiling im done

>> No.57660229

>>57659513
Imagine if HALO reschedules earnings to Wednesday

>> No.57660232

>>57660040
Yes, the concern is it will go too far in the other direction and cause deflation which has never happened without a coinciding recession.
>>57660049
This is just objectively wrong man. There were massive supply side issues in 2022 which contributed to inflation.

>> No.57660233

Hope you're long TSLA. The run to $300+ has begun.

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>>57659859
anon...

>> No.57660274

>>57660232
Yes. That's transitory inflation. Those get corrected. 2.1% is a permanent annual goal for market stability. It's an invisible tax, and occurs every year. The money printing in 2020 was an attack on everyone.

>> No.57660285

>>57660049
>Inflation happened because the amount of currency in circulation increased.
Yes.

>It has nothing to do with the price of goods.
No, it also had to do with that. Single things can have multiple contributing factors. Increase dollar supply + cut labor supply + cut energy supply + trip up goods supply chains = gigaflation

>> No.57660297

Good for the US. Dumping has no place in a free market world.

>> No.57660303

>>57660160
HODL is worth looking at over IBIT. GBTC is objectively a ripoff, but the 2% for BITW is waaaay more than canceled out by that NAV discount.

>> No.57660305

I demand deflation

>> No.57660314
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>>57660228
look at this chart and tell me

>> No.57660326

>>57660274
That 2% is well worth the significant returns on investment you have from just putting your money basically anywhere but under your mattress. Like it or not, inflation encourages investment.

>> No.57660356

>>57660303
>Price $23.97
>Nav $42.03
WAIT HOW?

>> No.57660363

>>57660326
>>57660285
In any case, we're able to invest in appreciating assets. So many people live in debt and cannot. They're gonna get heemed

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How do some people not instinctively hate women?

>> No.57660368

>>57660233
Why would it?

>> No.57660371

whats /biz/ consensus about nvidia on wednesday?

>> No.57660376

>>57660362
Stfu faggot.

>> No.57660383

>>57660371
Probably going to sell my calls since they are already over 100%. Might buy some lottery tickets.

>> No.57660388

>>57660362
wait till he finds out someone has been giving his wife the belt and road

>> No.57660408

>>57660356
>>57660303
Maybe because investors only care about bitcoin and dont want to hold other coins? Bitcoin is about 60% holdings so at 42 NAV that would be a market price of about $25. Basically they assume the rest of the holdings are worthless?

>> No.57660419

>>57660274
>>57660326
sad part is that 2% is supposed to be the target *average*

since 1970 (when we left the gold standard) it's averaged ~4%
1913 (fed's creation) to 1970 it averaged ~2.6%
1776-1913 it was 0.39%

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>>57660371
/smg/ is quite bullish on nvda. 10%-20% to the upside imo

>> No.57660450

>>57660314
I might buy

>> No.57660465

>>57660314
so this is predicting a home price crash of almost 40%?

>> No.57660521

Tesla are gay and someone can’t bake

>> No.57660547

>>57660314
Is the the red arrow or green arrow that the trend?

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where is KO anon, it is your fault I bought a 6 pack of Cherry coke zero.
I demand reparations.

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>>57660547

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we have the strongest economy in US history and the Fed is juicing the market, so there is unlimited money to pump up NVDA. Not to mention the trillions on the sideline eager to get back in. NVDA $1000 after earnings

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>>57660305

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>>57660408
>Basically they assume the rest of the holdings are worthless?
It's 67% BTC, 22% ETH, and the remainder are some of the largest and oldest blockchains/coins out there. We're not talking millions of dollars of WIF here.

>>57660356
GBTC traded at a similar huge discount to NAV because a bunch of traders got washed out on it and ETF approval was some uncertain catalyst several months away. Didn't help that it traded OTC rather than on the NYSE. Same deal for BITW (even if the SEC approves an ETH ETF, there's still all the other holdings that are up in the air to some extent).

>> No.57660674

>>57659781
>fed's own odds of recession peak at 71% in may
Huh? Where have you seen this.

>> No.57660681

>>57660057
>now that the US might finally stand to benefit from cheap goods, cancel the free trade agreements
WTF, I actually have something to agree with the economically illiterate schizo about.

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>>57660465
there's more factors involved, but yes that is a serious possibility, especially if a recession (unemployment) forces people to sell
generally it seems prices should come down, or rates will (or some of both)

that chart doesn't account for:
>population size (still growing, but slowing fast. anti-immigration sentiment is also rising)
>new housing supply (new building is going back up after being very low between 2010-2021)
>existing housing supply (how many want/have to sell)
>property taxes
>personal savings
>investment demand
etc.

real estate is also highly regional - every city/state will be very different

>>57660547
>>57660558
rates and prices are inversely related
the R^2 for the best fit there is 0.58, meaning ~60% of home prices can be explained by rates - see above for other supply/demand elements

your red arrow was the trend from 1970-1981 as the fed was raising rates to combat inflation
ever since then we've followed the green arrow as the fed kept lowering rates until they bottomed out with ZIRP from 09-17 and 2020-2022 (picrel)

the big question from here is whether we get another long-term inflationary cycle that forces more rate hikes or if the fed is bullied into keeping rates low to satiate government spending/debt and avoid high unemployment if a recession hits

>> No.57660733

>>57660634
>otc
ah... are they still trying to get SEC approval? still kinda crazy its so undervalued though.

>> No.57660734
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WHY IS IT CLOSED

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>>57660057
>>57660681
Come to think of it, forget all the gay naval drills and airspace incursions, this would be the actual prelude to a Taiwan invasion.

>Last minute cash out of frivolous shit
>Recycle dollars into commodity storage/war prep
>Dumping crushes enemy economies into recession, wipes their industry
>gg ez no re

>> No.57660768

>>57660733
All the Bitcoin ETFs got approved (including Bitwise's). ETH is a little more complex and the wave of ETFs there are only rumored at this point (though I think estimates have it around Q2). Presumably BITW converting to a full ETF trading at 100% of NAV would come at that point or a little later.

Hell, maybe they just shutter the idea and cash shareholders out at 95% of NAV after a year or two and SEC rejection. You're still looking at a crazy return.

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>>57660728
>yes that is a serious possibility
Good.

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>she didnt buy into argentina

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>>57660674
it was a bit unfair of me to phrase it like that but I'm bobo posting so excuse my hyperbole
it's just based on the yield curve
https://www.newyorkfed.org/research/capital_markets/ycfaq#/
https://www.stlouisfed.org/on-the-economy/2023/sep/what-probability-recession-message-yield-spreads

>> No.57660820

>>57660797
>Hamchad_motorcyclist_wins.webm

>> No.57660823

>>57660057
>>57660681
The only valid reason I can imagine for this is to keep prices high to reduce the amount of spending because of inflation memes

>> No.57660825

>the all in podcast mentions 4chan and 4+4chan
bros...

>> No.57660833
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>>57660825
...the fuck?

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>>57660825
>Podcast mentions a specific ID, post number, and uploaded image.

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>>57660873
>>57660833
https://youtu.be/bUuEE2jmP2c?t=4280

big boys chill in smg

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>>57660825
>>57660873
>>57660881
>The podcast is coming from inside the house

>> No.57660897

I didn't lose any money today

>> No.57660907

>>57660897
I made money today.

>> No.57660911

>>57660897
I might lose all my money this week

>> No.57660928

>>57660897
I lost lots when the bri'ish decided to sell their BATS into the void

>> No.57660938

>>57660897
Between crypto and celestials, I think it's about a wash.

>> No.57660960

We DID lose Kagney Lynn Karter today though. RIP in peace Qween

>> No.57660971

BOIL is best
It's over for KOLD niggers

>> No.57660975

>>57660897
Buttcoin went down a little bit so I lost a little money today

>> No.57660993

>>57660895
Brother I laughed really hard at this

>> No.57660994

>>57660960
Aw, bummer. Was she a pornstar? Serious question. I'm sick of hearing of them dying. Honestly kinda mourned August Ames. Who was the other one? Dakota Skye. Damn. And Jenni Lee isn't dead but she's living in the catacombs under Vegas.

I know it's gay to care about this, but we're eating our girls alive bro. There is such a stark difference between Taylor Swift and these porn hoes yet they have the same economic impact compared to each other.

>> No.57661020

Are there any other tax advantaged accounts like a Roth I can just dump extra money into on the side? Not self employed just a wagie

>> No.57661026

>>57660823
>valid reason
my sweet summer child

This is about economic exploitation, pure and simple.

>> No.57661031

>>57660994
>Was she a pornstar
Yes. Jesse Jane this year as well

>> No.57661058

>>57660994
>stark difference between Taylor Swift and these porn hoes
Many differences, but the biggest by far is that they are all biological women but Taylor Swift is a dude who used to be able to almost "pass".

>> No.57661057

>>57661031
>Jesse Jane
Damn the pirates girl?

>> No.57661069

Made about 20k in realized gains last year apparently. This year though I had a windfall and already know my taxes are going to be extremely fucked.

>> No.57661081

>>57661020
IRA's (Roth or traditional), 401(k)'s, HSA's (if your health insurance is shit), and 529 plans are about the extent of it.

>> No.57661083

>>57661057
Yup, too bimbo for me but remember fapping to Pirates in the late 2000s

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>>57660994
This is why I pound off to 2D hoes instead. No risk of death, unless they died in their series already, which is still no impedement to the pounding.

>> No.57661116

>>57661081
>if your health insurance is shit
I swapped to a high deductible plan this year because it let me use a pre-tax HSA and the rates were overall cheaper. Was that the wrong choice?

>> No.57661134

>>57661020
1) 401k match
2) roth ira $7000
3) hsa $4050
4) finish maxing out 401k unless you uave a shitty one like me

>> No.57661141

>The Democrat-controlled Virginia General Assembly killed a bill without even a hearing that would limit how much money politicians can accept from campaign donors, per OpenSecrets

such massive pieces of shit oh my god man

>> No.57661153

>>57661116
If you're young and healthy it's the right call. If shit hits the fan like you get cancer or you want to have a baby you can actually swap over to the FSA for a year, keep your HSA and enjoy the low deductible, and then swap back to the HSA afterwards

>> No.57661161

>>57661026
No no, I understand that. I'm just trying to have a hint of logic in a clown market

>> No.57661173

>>57660821
The thing is if inflation is beat you’d also expect that yield curve, more importantly the bond holders don’t actually care why it goes there way, just that it does. So unlike past events it’s 2 factors and one’s quite bullish.

>> No.57661183

>>57661153
I wouldn't say I am "healthy" but I guess by burger standards I am. I don't take any medication nor have to see any specialists. I figure if I have to take an ambulance to the ER I am blasting through whatever deductible I have to a lower vs higher one won't save me proportionately as much money. I'll keep that swapping in mind if I start having to do more involved things.
What sorts of investments would you buy in an HSA anyways? I currently am taking the 5% money market since my impression was that was money you ought to use to pay for things.

>> No.57661188

>>57660938
celestials?

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>>57656685
>>57656707
what's wrong with copping garbage that people will overpay for as it gets scarce over time? fallout is a huge brand and plenty of single cashed up retards are more than happy to buy every funkopop, let alone cardboard that has mass appeal (i didn't buy it to open them myself). and at worse i sell at what i bought it for (and that's if they even send the product and don't cancel the order like).
i see it as easy stock to hold and easy exit liquidity when the time comes (cash on pickup).

>> No.57661208

mike abbott more like mike hunt

>> No.57661213

>>57661141
the republicans would totally have voted on it

>> No.57661242
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>random call from private number
>no message left

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Nah nah. Alright get it clear. We aint gonna be going out on the internet spamming brapgas memes. Why? Everytime yall niggas start spamming brapgas on the internet, the bobos come out and load up shorts, which brings attention, which brings the... market maker algos. Ok? So we're gonna stop acting like a bunch of niggas, buy up BOIL, and hold. None of this shit about anime girls you jerk off to youll gotta post on basketweaving forums. Just good product. Product. Them tweakers will be coming back for our brapgas, we just gotta move product quietly and let the demand come back.

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>>57661188
Slang for Chinamen. Since you haven't, you oughta watch Deadwood.

This is financial advice.

>> No.57661269

>>57661264
swedgin cocksucka!

>> No.57661279

>>57660897
>I didn't lose any money today
inflation doesn't take day offs buddy

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>>57661269
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3pFo1E36HY

>> No.57661334

>>57661242
Don't open your trading app tomorrow. This is financial advice.

>> No.57661345

>>57661141
I dont think a bill like that matters in the first place, they already hide this shit in a hundred different ways. We need to switch to having an AI assistant that processes data and makes suggestions, then people vote on suggestions they like, and then politicians just implement those suggestions.

>> No.57661367

>>57661345
>political reform
yeah-
>it's AIshit
total silicon valley death

>> No.57661402

No thoughts on $BIG? Burry buy in, short and distort media campaign, Cramer bashing it. Looking very interesting. Hate to see it, but looks like GME 2.0

>> No.57661414

>>57661402
>looks like GME 2.0
Except we are not at ZIRP and the Fed isn't increasing the money supply by 40%.

>> No.57661416

>>57661367
Ive advocated digitization of politics years before AI. The goal is to take power away from career politicians. We like in a time where everyone has access to the internet, so why aren't we leveraging that?
Every city/town should have a website where they can go actively vote on how they think the state of their town is, potential improvements, and AI suggested laws that could address such issues. This would make people more in control of their local politics, provide transparency, and politicians would have less influence and harder to hide their actions.

tldr: fuck politicians, robots would do it better

>> No.57661424

>>57661264
Been on my list forever, I even got hbo. Now that the abortion that is true detective is over I should.

>> No.57661433

>>57661414
ZIRP has little to do with that. If interest does not go up this is bullish for BIG, means an increase in home goods sales.

>> No.57661440

>>57661416
you're just swapping out career politicians (public sector) for career politicians (tech sector)

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biz idea: an ETF that only goes up, hedged against going down. I'm thinking +20% a year or more.

>> No.57661461
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ITS GONNA BE BIGLY

>> No.57661463

>>57661441
All it would need to do is alternate between BOIL and KOLD at the proper timings.

>> No.57661476

>>57660734
Stupid holiday celebrating fags

>> No.57661478

>>57661441
That’s my plan with UPRO/TMF. Supposed to average 18% a year.
>>57661416
After the dismal financial repercussions of Brexit I’m not pumped to give frycooks and other poors more power over economists personally.

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>>57661416
And how do you make all of this secure?

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>>57661476
Hey fuck you buddy.

>> No.57661495

>>57661416
>tldr: fuck politicians, robots would do it better
Implying the robots wouldn't be compromised by the ruling class to forward their interests.

>> No.57661496

>>57661478
>After the dismal financial repercussions of Brexit I’m not pumped to give frycooks and other poors more power over economists personally.
Brexit's the smart move. Naturally the politicians in charge who got their arms twisted into it will do everything they can to sabotage or undo the change.

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>> No.57661511

Silver spreads are to damn high!

>> No.57661519
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If one buys $10k worth of NVDA on Tuesday what will it be worth in 5 years?

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>>57661519
Lazy answer? Like $2k.

>> No.57661533

>>57661020
After you stash your Roth you stash in 401k contributions. Though they are locked up.. you can self loan using your 401k to buy a house and other major life expenses. Caution is warranted because some 401ks offer poor performance because they might only offer bond baggie plans like the 60/40.

>> No.57661536

>>57654481
>waking up is a habit
are you autistic?

>> No.57661543

>>57661528
did that graph account for all of the csco's splits?

>> No.57661548

>>57661495
>>57661440
>everything is always the status quo!! so dont bother changing anything!!
I fucking hate you retards so much its unreal. You are the reason we are in this problem to begin with. Your opinion is worth less than dirt.

>> No.57661550

>>57661519
when a banshee like Pelosi pumps that shit bigly, what do you think? all it takes is for her to rug and down it all goes lol (and she will rug at the peak).

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>>57661502
That's a stand in because the actress didn't want to play along with Tarantino's foot fetish. That was in 2007 right before the crisis. The only conclusion is that all foot fags must be culled.

>> No.57661560

>>57661116
>>57661183
nah you're fine
iirc HSAs are arguably the most advantaged account because if you actually use it for medical expenses, both contributions *and* withdrawals go untaxed
then if you withdrawal for non-health reasons it's more or less a normal IRA with some stipulations on whether you're over 65 or not

so if you're of the boglehead mindset, just DCA most of it into major index funds
as you get older move more towards bonds

>>57661173
your grammar is kinda fucked with this post m8, not sure what you mean
>it’s 2 factors and one’s quite bullish
for stocks? explain

to me most like we get either
>short end rates coming down b/c fed cuts (which only tends to happen when recession hits / unemployment rises)
bearish
>long end rates rise as people realizes the fed actually holds
healthier for the real economy but a crab decade for stocks

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>>57661550
Where can one see Pelosi's investments like Gates?

>> No.57661571
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I bought AAPL and TSLA on Friday. Am I GMI?

>> No.57661572

>>57661496
Or the economists were right and it was actually a terrible move to put up more barriers to trade and reduce economies of scale?
There was a lot of data on one side, and populist sophism on the other reinforcing my point. Poor people voted on a policy that made the country more poor.
No empire isolated themselves into prosperity, most of history is quite the opposite.

>> No.57661574

>>57661482
Its not voting like an election, its a continuous feed back. You could go into your settings and rearrange you priorities any time. One day you might have it economy, crime, roads, then they next month you change it to be crime, roads, economy.
Election fraud is a completely separate topic which has to be dealt with socially, but the internet has been a great factor in exposing it.

>> No.57661585

>>57661496
Brexit was obviously the correct choice. Its not the fry cooks fault politicians and bankers sabotaged it.

>> No.57661594

>>57661543
Might be skipping one so the absolute share value is off, but the point is (adjusted) it started '01 by plunging to the level it started '99.

>> No.57661606

>>57661560
You are missing the 3rd and most likely option. Inflation is beat, feds lower rates to stop deflation? So we don’t know if it’s a bearish recession, or bullish fed pivot, all we know is bond holders think there will be easier access to capital in the future.

>> No.57661608

>>57661565
https://www.subversiveetfs.com/nanc

>> No.57661623

>>57661572
An Anglosphere free trade zone, free of EU retardation, would absolutely leave the UK better off. Also lol at trusting economists on this kind of thing. You may as well ask historians whether England is a country.

>> No.57661636

>>57661594
dot bomb crash was completely different than today's AI 'mania' is what I keep hearing/reading everywhere.
>AI has tangible assets
>AI is just getting started
>etc.
What is actually reality and what is going to happen with the current AI surge?

>> No.57661645

>>57661560
>as you get older move more towards bonds
what bonds

>> No.57661650

>>57661574
I’m just not seeing the difference between what you are advocating and a more convenient form of Athenian democracy ie mob rule.
What the fuck do you know about the proper allocation of funds on highways or the correct tariff rate on Mexico, yet every household would get a say?

>> No.57661653

>>57661519
$1.6m
(this is due to the coming hyperinflation)

>> No.57661659

i need someone to tell me that it's going to be okay

>> No.57661671

>>57661519
$50 Inflation adjusted. Nominally? Maybe 100k.

>> No.57661672

>>57661606
>Inflation is beat
Sticky inflation reaccelerated along with services. The economy can grow.. but banks and USA gov can't do that without hosing the bond holders by either tolerating above mark inflation or raising the rates to slow it back down.

>> No.57661674

>>57659627
start a business. I know a couple of illegal aliens doing way more than that with none of the requirements

>> No.57661680

>>57661519
Probably 10k. Possibly less. Very very very slight chance of doubling your money. Not worth it.

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>>57661623
>Anglosphere free trade zone
It is time for the mayo monkeys to finally leave our markets brethren

>> No.57661695

>>57661650
I can't help you see if you're willingly bind.
>What the fuck do you know
I dont need to know. The people living in their town know what they need. Can you even read?
Youre basically complaining that giving people a hammer is bad because we already can hit things with rocks just fine

>> No.57661710

Imagine if nvidia offers a dividend at earnings

>> No.57661714

>>57661672
This could be true, and I’m not stating inflation is beat. I’m just explaining how this yield curve is a lot different than the ones we have seen in the past as ultimately nobody knows what will happen with inflation but it’s a huge factor unlike past yield curve risk predictions.

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>futures

>> No.57661736

>>57661606
Inflation is likely to continue unless the houthis get exploded/negotiated. Shipping is just too expensive. Rates will stay high

>> No.57661743

>>57661714
>This time….it’s different

>> No.57661744

>>57661636
The internet also changed the world. We're probably using Cisco routers. But CSCO shares still did what they did.

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>>57661710
NVDA's been a dividend payer for years.

>> No.57661757

>>57661750
>0.022%

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>>57661659
We'll be alright, because our enemies are dumb and gay.

>> No.57661760

>>57661572
The problem is the government can only do more austerity. The holistic industrial policy necessary to rebuild the uks mfg base just isn't there and the monetarists are still in charge

>> No.57661765

its time to face it chuds
economics have been solved

there will never be a recession, EVER again.

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>>57661750
>347 B

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>>57661671

>> No.57661781

>>57661695
No I’m saying giving people with zero education, experience, and knowledge a seat at a table to solve problems they know absolutely nothing about is a terrible idea and the reason Athens lost the Peloponnesian war. Why would I trust poor people to make any correct decisions when it comes to national finances, or obese people control over health policies, or highschool drop outs a say in education. I’d rather have a obscenely successful and competent 30 years experienced frontline worker than a mob of normies.
I like the mob to have a say and punish these guys when they are wrong or self serving, but not to have a say in policy.

>> No.57661787

do you get anything special for owning a berkshire class A? does warren buffet send you a personal christmas card every year?

>> No.57661789

>>57661765
JPow says the economy is doing too good and high rates must continue which shows how detached chicagotards are from reality. They'd chop off their own balls to make dxy go up (really they're chopping ours ofc)

>> No.57661795

>>57661714
The market almost got its soft landing.. but of course the market tried to beat the fed buying the "inflation is dead narratively" and began demanding the fed stop rates by 150bp after they tepidly said 75bp might be appropriate.. while reiterating higher and longer. If the short end dropped 150bp the curve would almost normalize. Butttttt... The bond rally and hundreds of thousands of migrants are causing massive economic growth while putting strains on resources that exist. Anyways -- core inflation ticking up means it's time to expect more wage inflation. Which matches with my situation as my employer is suggesting 8% would be appropriate of a wage increase in the public sector come may.

>> No.57661800

>>57661781
And why should we trust corrupt bureaucrats with any of those either?
Its not like your average politician is a succesful entrepeneur, or some smart educated guy. They are just scum. Their only skills are in manipulation, networking, betraying others, and collecting as many bribes as possible.

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>>57661781
Take it to >>>/pol/, this is an >>>/an/ thread

>> No.57661805

>>57661674
Very useless information that has nothing to do with my post.

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>>57661787
>do you get anything special for owning a berkshire class A?
Yes, he sends you a can of his piss, canned by the Coca Cola Company. Together with the Coke can of piss he sends you a letter that says "Drink my piss you poorfag".

>> No.57661817

>>57661800
Anti corruption campaigns of course. Regular political purges. It is the best way

>> No.57661819

>>57661671
>>57661772
kek

>> No.57661821

>>57661736
Maybe, maybe not. If you believed this with 100% certainty you can buy bond puts on margin and make huge bank, but you won’t as nobody actually knows.
I personally don’t think Houthis matter when compared to 8 trillion in M2 no longer being added to a 20 trillion dollar economy, but I could be wrong. Though I’ve personally bet 2 mil on triple leverage on my convictions through TNA/TMF.

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>> No.57661833

>>57661781
Youre not reading what I said. This isnt direct democracy. Its data collection on a continuous basis. And based on that data, AI would make SUGGESTIONS not LAWS. And then those SUGGESTIONS can be reviewed by elected officials and then turned into actual laws. Its basically what we already have, but with more communication and transparency.

>> No.57661837

>>57661572
economists see only numbers and figures and absolutely do not take into account things like culture and quality of life.

>> No.57661838

>>57661831
Maybe the gooks are alright.

>> No.57661844

>>57661838
they arent

>> No.57661849

>>57661821
>If the Red Sea were to remain closed to shipping for several months, however, and shipping freight costs stayed around twice the level of mid-December, this could add 0.7ppts to annual CPI inflation rates by the end of 2024.
-https://www.oxfordeconomics.com/resource/red-sea-shipping-attacks-add-to-inflation-risks/

You're gonna need a hell of a lot more money supply contraction, chief.

>> No.57661848
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57661848

>>57661833
Stfu you stupid faggot.

>> No.57661854

>>57661817
How about we start with consecutive term limits. That alone would probably solve a lot of issues.

>> No.57661866

>>57661849
Don't forget all the extra OIL & NATGAS that's going to be burned, because of the rerouting.

>> No.57661881

>>57661866
That too. And look what's been creeping up since the start of the year: https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/gasoline

Arthur Burns is laughing at us from hell.

>> No.57661885

>>57661833
brainlet

>> No.57661893

>>57661795
That’s crazy. Yea, it’s anybodys game and will be interesting to watch. So being informed and knowing what you do, what are you investing in?
>>57661802
I’ve been here for 16 years and have never noticed that /an/ before. I’m going check it out. Thanks!

>> No.57661899
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57661899

>>57661881
The OIL tax must be paid.

>> No.57661902
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57661902

>>57661854
>term limits
lol member that shit?
>promises made
>promises broken

>> No.57661910
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57661910

>caring about anything other than NATGAS AND OIL

>> No.57661911

>>57661802
That was a mistake… >>4727167

>> No.57661930

>>57661902
>no new wars
>food was affordable
>expecting a single guy to fix everything in 4 years by being back stabbed by everyone
>you are literally cleaning the blood off the blade you stabbed him with while saying "wow he failed lol guess you cant trust him :)"
Nobody cares about your lies shill.

>> No.57661931

>>57661849
Uggg. I’m curios to see how China handles this.

>> No.57661939

>>57661930
>expecting a single guy to fix everything in 4 years by being back stabbed by everyone
Not like he had a Republican majority in both house and senate or anything.

>> No.57661943

>>57661911
Its still 4chan, try >>>/an/4668841 if you think we're in a perma bull market

>> No.57661953
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57661953

>>57661930
>covid
>lockdowns
>mandates
>vaccines
>stiumulus
>inflation
>mass immigration
>ridiculous spending
>muh shill
still no term limits, btw.

>> No.57661956

>>57661939
>everyone with an (R) followed Trump
Why do you lie so blatantly? Do you think the piss tapes are real? You think hunter Biden isnt a pedo crack head?

>> No.57661959
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57661959

>>57661943
Did you see the uncomfortably sexy monkey with huge tits. That post will haunt my dreams.

>> No.57661966
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57661966

>>57661931
Handle what?

>> No.57661984
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57661984

>>57661959
I'm into bovines mane

>> No.57661990

>>57661953
>covid -> china
>lockdowns -> state governors
>vaccines -> Biden
>stimulus -> congress
>inflations -> the fed
>mass immigration -> congress
>spending -> congress
>muh shill -> you are
Debunked, shill

>> No.57661992

>>57661966
kek, probably.

>> No.57662005
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57662005

>>57661953
>Brother, just give him TWO more weeks, Drumpf will fix everything I promise bro. TRUST the plan.

>> No.57662011

>>57661959
>>>/an/4727167

>> No.57662023

Less than an hour until HOODies can trade over 900
STOOKS AND ETFs.
Imagine being a
NO
HOOD
NIGGER

>> No.57662024

>>57662005
thas rite
>X22 report on the case
>Q has told us
>the deep state is scared
>THEY. ARE. TERRIFIED.
>two more weeks
>trust the plan
>use my coupon code

>> No.57662025
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57662025

>>57661992
It's really delicious to read all this cope:
https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/02/14/red-sea-crisis-china-middle-east-strategy-egypt-yemen/
https://www.npr.org/2024/02/08/1229964939/china-depends-heavily-on-the-red-sea-why-isnt-it-doing-more-to-stop-rebel-attack
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/china-is-testing-its-freeriding-strategy-in-the-red-sea/
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-14/xi-stays-clear-of-red-sea-battle-despite-risks-to-china-trade

Israel isn't China's albatross, their ships are untouched, and COSCO gets to earn even more money, so why on Earth would they care about the Houthis?

>> No.57662030
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57662030

>>57662024
Lmfao.

>> No.57662031

>>57661959
If she knew the things I’d do to her, she’d let me

>> No.57662036
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57662036

>>57661990
So what's the president for then lol
By that logic nothing would be Bidens fault as well lmao even
you're fucking retarded

>> No.57662041

>>57662025
I thought the Houthis were attacking everybody, if Chinese ships can still get through than who cares. Inflation is canceled.

>> No.57662042

>>57662030
let me prepare my shitposting masterpiece.
just a moment.
gonna be two posts.

>> No.57662044

>>57661606
>>57661714
>bullish fed pivot
extremely rare
afaik the only times the fed cut rates while not immediately preceding/following a recession/crash were:
1984, ~11% -> ~6%
when prices, P/E ratios, and GDP ratios were near all time relative lows
1995, ~6% -> ~4.6%
when they proactively raised rates to combat inflation, at modest valuations

note both were not major relative declines in rates either. nowadays that'd be like moving from our 5.3% to say 4%, which would barely even un-invert the curve

>inflation didn't factor into past yield curve predictions
the 1970's called, aka crab city

do you really think, after a 40% fucking run in stocks in <2 years, that:
>inflation declines (2% is the target *average*, not floor)
>unemployment stays low
>fed cuts rates
>stocks increase even more
>inflation stays low
>no black swans

I just don't see it man

>> No.57662054

>futures

>> No.57662055
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57662055

>>57662042
>gonna be two posts.
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.57662063
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57662063

>>57662030
Hiiiii and welcome
>think about it for a second
>think about what he has done
>absolutely brilliant
>very interestingly
>the deep state
>the central bank
>THEY. ARE. PANICKING.
>the patriots in full control
>the peoples economy
>comes online
>transition
>Q has told us
>end of FED?
>STRUCTURE
>sound money
>interest free
>optics are very important
>timing is everything
>NO
>main stream media
>pushing recession
THE BEST IS YET TO COME
>Andrew Jackson on the wall
>BOOM
>enjoy the show

>> No.57662076
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57662076

>>57662030
>>57662063
>sometimes you have to show the people
>that were Trumps intentions
>now the deepstate, the [D]'s, then central banks the corrupted politicians ARE FULLY EXPOSED
>THEY. ARE. PANICING.
>thanks to Trump the public is now MONITORING THE SITUATION VERY CLOSELY
>winning or losing the election doesn't matter
>what mattered was that the bad guys are now FULLY EXPOSED
>the next four years will have the public finally see what the [DS], the [CB], the [D]'s, the corrupted politicians are all about
>they will take notice
>and then when Trump runs again in 2024
what do you think will happen?
>B O O M !
>L A N D S L I D E
>V I C T O R Y
>trust the plan
>Q has told us
use my coupon code

>> No.57662083

>>57662041
Genuinely Chinese ships (not just a couple crew, but ownership, top to bottom) are passing through fine, however they're only a small fraction of global shipping. But don't take my word for it: look at any freight index.

Same deal with Russia's dark fleet of oil tankers. Their route is considerably less impinged than, say, Israel-bound ones.

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57662090

>> No.57662091

>>57662044
No it is rare, but so is a 8 trillion quantitative easing plan gone awry so it very much fits.
I don’t know, bond vigilantes are my biggest fear right now but all the top banks are betting on 3.5% 30 year rates so I through my lot in with them. We will see, though once 4% is hit I’m definitely getting the fuck out of 20 year bonds and small caps.

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57662100

>>57662063
>>57662076
KEK! TWO MORE WEEKS!!! Q TOLD ME TO SIT BACK AND DO NOTHING! I AM TRUSTING THE PLAN!

>> No.57662103

>>57662083
Gotcha, so Greek ships with Chinese goods are still being attacked. I mean I could see China having words with there neighbour over this. One would think that’s a big deal.

>> No.57662112

give it to me straight /smg/

Are we crashing this month? I have 1.7M invested and honestly I'm getting nervous, I'm getting some really bearish feelings

>> No.57662116

>>57662112
no, worst case is a slight correction that nobody will remember in 6 months

>> No.57662122

>>57662112
Don't sell, thats not good for me.

>> No.57662124

>>57661781
>No I’m saying giving people with zero education, experience, and knowledge a seat at a table to solve problems they know absolutely nothing about is a terrible idea and the reason Athens lost the Peloponnesian war.
Athens was run by oligarchs during the Peloponnesian war, you dumb tit.

>> No.57662126

Installing arcoslinux on a cheap laptop I found at the poor store for $30.

>> No.57662127
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57662127

>>57662103
See, that's why shipping insurance exists.

And, incidentally, because the war risk part of that insurance now costs a couple % of the entire nine-figure cargo+ship caboodle, you're seeing a ton of diversions.

Again, why would China care if some Kraut import firm has to pay extra for fuel around Africa, insurance through Drone Alley, or another load of goods outright?

>> No.57662136

>>57662112
Yeah. You could keep holding and hedge with a few tens of grand in puts I guess.

>> No.57662138

>>57662112
>I'm getting nervous, I'm getting some really bearish feelings
Hey man if you can't sleep at night sell and hold cash, In a few years you could probably (I hope) buy a month worth of groceries with $1.7M.

>> No.57662140

>>57662124
No, that was clearly after. The 30 oligarchs were put in by Sparta. I’m embarrassed for you.

>> No.57662141

>>57659859
it might cause deflation which would be very bad, we should go to war to stop deflation.

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57662156

>>57662141
>we should go to war to stop deflation.
BASED

>> No.57662162

>>57662112
If you have that much money invested in the markets you should at least be hedging to cover your ass

>> No.57662167

>>57662127
You don’t get to have it both ways and say costs will be up but it won’t impact producers and their sales in the slightest… All of Chinese manufacturing trumps Chinese shipping by probably a million X so I doubt it’s a net positive.

>> No.57662168

It’s fucking over if smg is saying hold your bags before the bell. It’s FUCKING OVER. AAAAAAaaAAAaAAAaaaaAaAaAaAaAaaa

>> No.57662172
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57662172

>>57662091
Ah, it's you again.
You shared some great insight yesterday.
What do you think is the reason behind the reverse repo depletion? That thing hit a nearly two year low a few days ago when it breached $500b to the downside.
The reward rate is now way higher than what the open market yield is, so what are the institutions needing the cash for?
I for one believe that the depletion is partly the cause for the full retard strength rally we've seen since the end of last October and of course also the rally in bonds, pushing the yields below the Fed funds rate.
Now I also don't believe that those investors are pushing yields down out of the goodness of their hearts. I suspect they are basically YOLO'ing on a return of QE or a massive bond buy back program so they can once again play the middle man and dump their holdings onto the Fed and/or the treasury who they believe will buy at any price.

>> No.57662231

>>57662167
What's the West gonna do? Germany can't build anything, they have to pay what they have to pay. You think China's worse off if their main geopolitical rivals collapse but they need to make a few more sales to India instead of the UK?

>> No.57662245

Huh... futures?

>> No.57662253

its February and the bugs are back already fuck me, but specifically fuck this gnat in my living room

>> No.57662279

>>57662245
STOOKS are going out of business.

>> No.57662282
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57662282

>>57662172
I’m in a nuanced position where I’m quite bullish, especially long term. However I’m less bullish than the institutions seem to be, especially short term. Inflation looks to be stickier than expected and people are going to be disappointed by the delayed pivot, but it will happen. A delayed orgasim is still a orgasim, who cares if it’s September instead of March.
US economy looks pretty good, had 8 trillion of monetary stimulus behind it, and lots of fiscal deficits ahead of it which will harm it long term, badly, but is good short term.
Everyone else but Brazil and India is a absolute mess, making the US look even better. On top it’s dumb to count on AI but it is a real bullish wild card.
For me it’s not any tricks, it’s the real deal. Institutions are just optimistic, the actual numbers look pretty good out there. You wouldn’t know if you listened to the news or consumed social media but everyone who deals with the economic data is pretty bullish once inflation is beat, and it’s not being beat because of how good it is out there.

>> No.57662306

We’re gonna….we’re gonnnnnna…..DOOOOOOOOMP

>> No.57662314

>>57662231
You guys are always so dramatic. I think China is paying a Houthis tax that will harm their bottom line. Just like the Trump tarrifs they hated it but they survived. Not the end of days, not a good thing either. They will apply pressure on there neighbour, that’s it. Nothing dramatic or world changing.

>> No.57662355

>>57661606
i think it's better to say the bond market is currently seeing the future as disinflationary, and anticipated real returns to be low and risk of contraction to be elevated. that's why i think you would go offsides to buy something (hedge) with so much rate risk relative to just collecting yield from bills. not "easier access to capital," there is a massive demand to hedge for the exact opposite

>> No.57662360

>he thought the STOOKS would go up moar
>he bought
>he held

>> No.57662365

>>57662355
so their hedging in case that happens. Like buying insurance for a fire. A fire that you don’t think will happen…but worry might

>> No.57662384

>>57662355
In a bearish situation the Government stimulates and the fed lowers the rate, that’s why rates lower. It’s easier access to capital, even when things are bad. Especially when things are bad.

>> No.57662389
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57662389

>know the market is due for a crash
>too much of a coward to short
Guess I'll stay poor then. I wish I'd never found out about options trading desu. It's a constant reminder of how wealth is just a few button clicks away if only I could time the market correctly.

>> No.57662394
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57662394

>> No.57662397

I don't care I'm never selling. My family can sell it when I'm dead.

>> No.57662400

I have a two in 2.5 hours but I want to cancel and look at stocks.

>> No.57662402

>>57662041
they're only attacking ships headed to isriel.

>> No.57662409

>>57662394
I love the circle

>> No.57662440

>>57661821
I just buy non EU non burgerland assets. Timing options is outside my purview

>> No.57662444

>>57662402
I hope so but I think it’s all ships passing though. Buddy said it’s expected to raise inflation 0.7% in America alone.

>> No.57662451

>>57662440
Chinese Railroads? I can’t even imagine what that is.

>> No.57662458

>>57662394
>>57662409
>>57662397
>>57662389
IT'S TIME
TO EAT
SOME SLIME

>> No.57662462

>>57661854
Oh sick revolving door corruption. No bitch. Political anti corruption campaigns

>> No.57662468

>>57662451
Non dollar denominated bonds
VWO
IEMG

>> No.57662521

Oy vey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_RpWMzWz1M

>> No.57662536
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57662536

>>57662468
>VWO
>IEMG

>> No.57662547

>>57662402
Current policy has expanded to any "Zionist" ships. So Israeli, UK, or US ownership anywhere along the chain (like, they don't have a bone to pick with Belize).

>> No.57662553

Commodities rallying. Btc dumping. It’s fucking ogre

>> No.57662570

>>57662553
There was no reason for bitcoin to go up

Whales pre-bought pushing the price up because everyone thinks rates will go down which pushes stocks and bitcoin up. But they won't; there's still too much inflation in the system.

>> No.57662576

>>57662553
>>57662570
Bitcoin's dumping for one simple reason: https://twitter.com/theRealKiyosaki/status/1759336403715101181

>> No.57662586

>>57662570
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!

>> No.57662601

>>57662521
imagine TV hosts weren't always diverse low iq monkeys

>> No.57662609

>>57662384
the market tells the fed what the fuck the rate is. you think we got and yet retain the world reserve currency through a command and control managed currency? silly, silly boy. congress can stop recessions by pulling demand forward, largely by encouraging unproductive spending and the central bank (psychologically) encouraging unproductive debt. surprise, that eventually leaves a demand cliff. and i believe that fiscal stimulus is politically tenuous, at least for now... so. given that heads of state and appointees are really good at egg on face, chances are SHTF riiight before everyone needs to get into office.

>> No.57662614

>>57662536
Not an argument

>> No.57662624

>>57662609
We got our status as wrc because of our ability to project military force dumbass. Do you think we got the sole IMF veto because we're so good at managing money?

>> No.57662625

>>57662601
Will Koulouris infinitely mogs (You), fag.

>> No.57662636
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57662636

>he thought it was going back up
>he thought it was healing
SIKE
I
K
E

>> No.57662638

>>57662625
he's a manlet are you retarded?

>> No.57662641

AARGHHHHHHH!!!!! It’s over. Chainlink going to 16. It’s FUCKING OVERRRRR NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. STOP THE COUNT. STOP THE FUCKING COUNT

>> No.57662656

>>57662638
He's getting paid to talk intelligently about the markets every day and (You) are here expressing your jealous negativity without capitalization, commas, or punctuation
FOR
FREE
.

>> No.57662663
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57662663

There's a fucking Big Lots General now. Which one of you screwballs did this!?

>> No.57662676

How we feeling about WMT tomorrow?

>> No.57662677

>>57662663
All in big for a week

>> No.57662682
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57662682

>>57662663
Not me that's for sure haha

>> No.57662683
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57662683

>>57662656
>intelligently
that's just from your point of view
and yes I do insult you for free thanks for noticing

>> No.57662693

https://boards.4chan.org/biz/thread/5766269057662690
>>57662690
>>57662690
>>57662690
https://boards.4chan.org/biz/thread/5766269057662690
>>57662690

>> No.57662698
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57662698

When I posted my big chart just a few posts ago when I searched big in TradingView it came right up. Now when I search big this comes up. Psyops have begun

>> No.57662699

>>57662624
wow, thanks. didn't know that. i also learned today that things might happen for more than one reason. you are a bottomless well of insight

>> No.57662709
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57662709

>>57662683

>> No.57662714

>>57662521
god that brown host is an insufferable prick

>> No.57662829

>>57662609
I’ve been pondering how this plays into things too. I don’t think it’s as big a factor as you believe it to be but it’s definitely a factor.
>>57662536
kek

>> No.57662858

>>57661548
>everything
not everything, but specifically what you suggested

>> No.57662932

>>57662601
What phenotype is that chick? That’s the whitest Indian I’ve ever seen.
>>57662521
That was pretty good, thanks.
>>57662714
How do they go from bombshells to that pair?

>> No.57662950

>>57662932
that's probably what baggie's child with his yellow wife will look like

>> No.57662963

>>57662950
kek

>> No.57662980

>>57662521
>In China... they're getting their capital from cash flows...
UNACCEPTABLE!

>> No.57663111

>>57662980
I caught that too, it was pretty funny. Guys a bit of a talkie but a based one. Wish they were all like that.