/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>57611039
$50k and I'm not even joking

>>57611039
worthless like your nonexistent gf

>>57611085
My gf is very real

>>57611076
You serious man?

>>57611132
Yep

>>57611039
even lower compared to BTC
hopefully a full on crash and chain death

>>57611076
pretty close

>>57611085
>>57611153
this is your buy signal

>>57611132
it depends how deep it extends past ATH
$50k is completely on the table but it's not an easy hold BCH is volatile as fuck

>>57611266
Why would it extend past ath now if it couldn't do it in 2021?

>>57611242
>this is your buy signal
but we've been calling Bcash a shitcoin already since 2017.
It went from 0.80 BTC to 0.005 BTC. Great buy signal indeed

>>57611076
It's gonna wick to 80-100k end of this cycle.

$280
That will be the price in January 2025, screencap this

>>57611266
You are literally living in another universe if you think your coin has a chance of sniffing $50k EVER, let alone this cycle. Walk me through how you got to that figure

>>57611368
There was a lot of politics going on at the time, like the XEC fork. On top of that, you had people dumping their BCH that they didn't sell in the 2017 bull with all the flippening hype happening.
A lot of dev time between 2017 and 2021 was either spent mired in internal conflict (BSV/XEC), or establishing a governance process, coalescing on an altered brand, technical upgrades such as new address formats & improving the difficulty adjustment algorithm. These are not small changes.
Since XEC has split in 2020, everybody has been on the same page and it's gotten major upgrades
>Unlimited unconfirmed chains
>Multiple OP_RETURNs
>Double-Spend Proofs
>Native Introspection Opcodes - efficiency improvement for covenants that not only simplifies complex transactions but also enhances the possibilities around scheduled and recurring payments. Important for a cash system.
>Bigger Script Integers
>Pay-To-Script-Hash-32
>CashTokens

The CashTokens upgrade (2023) is the most substantial upgrade on BCH in years. CashTokens makes it possible for native tokens, both fungible and non-fungible, to reside directly and securely on the blockchain. No other UTXO chain has this, so BCH has the first-mover advantage. >1000x more efficient than EVM, and BCH has never had any downtime unlike SOL.

There's an entire DeFi ecosystem in BCH now.

This May they're also making the blocksize algorithmic according to demand for block space. There's some restrictions on it so it can't scale to fast for Moore's law to keep up, but it prevents having another blocksize war in case a bunch of people jump into BCH and the fees end up as bad as BTCs.

>>57611661
it was a shitcoin in 2017 idk about that so much any more
>>57611914
>that list
funniest part about this is BTC having only 2 upgrades since 2017
the politics is interesting too I guess I didn't really think about all that

>>57611661
It's unironically a gem now you're just too hardheaded to see it.

>>57612017
>it was a shitcoin in 2017 idk about that so much any more
bcash moved from shitty PoW fork with 1% power,
to a PoS+PoW hybrid. LOL.

>>57612045
>It's unironically a gem now you're just too hardheaded to see it.
0.5% hashpower of sha256 Bitcoin
not even a real PoW anymore, uses PoS (10 blocks "finalization" LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO)
who needs consensus, just pick 10 last blocks on "trust me bro" + 0.5% of Bitcoin's hashpower.

one day a bored Bitcoin miner will fork that shit.

>gem
KEEEEEEEEEK

>>57612070
it's not proof of stake at all you guys can't even fud properly lmao
the hashrate follows the price, so a few good pumps and it's back to 5%, then 10%, and so on.

>>57612080
There was a whole thread about this yesterday, but you don't know anything about mining if you think a miner is going to 51% this coin.

>>57612088
>it's not proof of stake at all you guys can't even fud properly lmao
I'm sorry it's even worse than PoS.
it's some kind of "proof I seen the actually first 10 last-blocks... no no I SEEN THEM! NOOOOOOOOOOO THEY ARE LYING! it was me! this version of last 10 blocks is good, TRUST ME BRO"

fucking morons

>>57612112
>but you don't know anything about mining if you think a miner is going to 51% this coin.
kek you missunderstood, roger.
a miner is going to 0.3% this shitcoin, if he is bored one day.
(a notable Bitcoin miner, anyone above 0.3% of Bitcoin hashrate)

>>57612125
Makes sense to have in case a 51% does happen, the intent is to remove it once some hashrate is recovered. Not worth fading the coin over.

>>57612141
Why haven't they done it then?

>>57611039
BCH doesn't solve the trilemma. It sacrifices decentralization and security in order to achieve speed.

>>57611914
Alright, I'm in
The fud is bullish too desu fud from maxis means scared maxis

>>57612222
listen up dipshits i know this is confusing for you because you're mentally handicapped but let me put it simply i don't like bch and your little coin sucks it's a useless piece of junk that was never meant to be more than an afterthought just like your whole life keep dreaming about the
>trilemma
as you jerk off to pictures of roger ver you pathetic loser i'll be over here living like a king while you cry into your pillows every night about how pathetic you are let's just call it as it is bro

>>57612222
You have to quantify that for it to mean anything. It's not something they're ignoring either, UTXO commitments, XThinner, and Blocktorrents are the way forward.

>>57612145
>Makes sense to have in case a 51% does happen, the intent is to remove it once some hashrate is recovered.
the brain rot of bch users, ladies and gentleman

>>57612156
>Why haven't they done it then?
not bored enough
yet.

>>57612222
>BCH doesn't solve the trilemma. It sacrifices decentralization and security in order to achieve speed.
this
and CHECKED

>>57612258
>quantify that
what are you some kinda gay faggot look pal i don't care about your fancy faggot slang or your cute little technicalities the only thing i care about is making fat stacks of honey badger tokens (ticker $hoba) and banging your wife i don't know who the hell you think you are or why you're trying to tell me what to do but let me just say this loud and clear i don't give one flying heck about what you've got to say about your stupid little
>blocktorrents
whatever that means lmfao

>>57612247
this
thank you bch shills

>>57612326
Fool. This is a chink scam. They’re trying to steal your hard-earned cash

>>57611914
Does the algorithm only increase the block size or does it decrease it too?
>>57612017
>only 2 updates since 2017
It's gotten so bad

>>57612401
It increases and decreases but there's a 32MB floor

>>57612247
Invest in this shit if you want to miss out on the bullrun
>BTC: up 5%
>BCH: up 0.37%
Lmao

I've been here since 2013 BCH is a lot of things but it's not a chink scam dipshit I'm buying a bag just because you're that fucking stupid
Thank you for confirming this thing has legs

>>57612424
It's up 75% on BTC in the last 12 months
Pathetic.

>>57612445
Come find me when it goes to zero after Bitcoin’s updates render it useless

>>57612474
what updates? last I checked you guys were still arguing about cat pictures or some faggot shit

>>57612445
>BCH is a lot of things but it's not a chink scam
ok Wu. "Fuck your mother if you gotta fuck"
go die in escalator accident

>>57612510
>last I checked you guys were still arguing about cat pictures
nothing like that happened, you make stuff up

>updates?
last update was TapRoot.

low information idiot

/biz/ is a BCH board now kek I'm in
fuck maxis

>>57612533
That was over 2 years ago
What's next?

>>57612286
your pic is out-dated. BTC is now asic proof

>>57612523
Bros... why are the BTC retards fudding this so hard?

>>57612258
>UTXO commitments, XThinner, and Blocktorrents
Pathetic band-aid solutions... Kaspa absolutely mogs your coin with its blockDAG and generalized nakamoto consensus that achieves way higher throughput without any of the security or decentralization tradeoffs that come with big block retardation. I just don't know why you'd continue wasting your time with this dead end BCH shit when fundamentally superior technology exists

>>57612541
All shilled from a telegram or discord, I’m sure of it. There’s no real grassroots BCH support

>>57612602
>kaspa shill
Every time
>>57612604
You guys are in here acting like delusional faggots it's not surprising your making people bullish lol

>>57612626
Your coin is old news and has already lost the plot... if we're going to move away from bitcoin then we might as well use something that actually works instead of playing pretend like BCHfags with their pretend trilemma solver

>>57612639
I'd rather buy something that hasn't pumped yet

>>57612639
Exactly. It doesn’t offer any advantage over Bitcoin that Bitcoin can’t integrate or workaround

>>57612651
You would have to hardfork to raise your tx throughput. You'd kill the network effect you've built, 0 chance you build consensus with that after all the years of Back's cum you've been drinking.

>>57612651
I will not demean myself by resorting to using L2s.

On chain only

>>57612649
It has a lower market cap than BCH and is fundamentally way better so do with that info what you will, or stay poor. I don't care
>>57612651
BTC is perfect as it is and doesn't need to be changed. It's digital gold. It fills that niche really well right now. But digital gold isn't the only niche to be filled in crypto. I agree with the idea that we need something faster and more scalable than BTC but with the same security an decentralization properties. But BCH ain't it.

>>57612666
listen up 4chan virgin cuck you're on the spectrum if you think you should waste your money on your stupid l2 solutions that won't even make you any money you're a loser and i bet your wife's boyfriend laughs at you when he sees you using their computer have fun staying poor with your shitty l2 onchain solutions i'm going to be buying a honey badger limo with my honey badger erc gainz

>>57612651
>2 (two) protocol upgrades since 2017
lol.

>>57612692
did an AI write this

>>57612045
LOL

BCH is a scam and anyone who buys it is a retard, but KAS is unironically an even bigger VC scam

>>57612687
>>57612692
go back to your general nobody cares about your jewish founders token
shoo jew shoo
>>57611733
BCH to $100k then?

>>57612719
da jooz

>>57612710
Zero premine, zero preallocation, devs control less than 3% of the supply... faster halving schedule than BTC with 80% of the supply already being out. I'm glad I figured all this out over a year ago. Kaspa has been like a free money glitch irl for oldfags who actually understand crypto

>>57612710
Filtered

What's the best wallet for BCH?

>>57612792
Electron cash on desktop or Selene on mobile

i legit forgot bcash still existed

>>57612822
lol same
turns out they've actually been doing stuff
im impressed desu

>>57611914
How decentralized is it these days? In 2018 54% of the nodes were run out of Alibaba per Nick Szabo.

>>57612666
Based

>>57612905
source?
best I could find

>>57612971
source best i could find more like source please

>>57612996
this is a bot right

>>57612550
>That was over 2 years ago
>What's next?
I hope nothing for a decade or so.
Eh, maybe ZKs/bulletproofs.
Or not.

Big money likes peace and quiet.

>>57613023
Yes, you can tell by the nonsensical replies and the uncanny AI-generated images they use in every post

>>57613031
not sure about that, look at nvidia
hell, look at the dominance chart
innovate or die imo

>>57613043
>innovate or die imo
>updaaaaaaaaaaaater.jpg
no, thanks

>>57613077
does big money buy cope?
guess we'll find out

>>57613077
I'll bet BTC.D goes to 25% this cycle

>>57611039
$23k

>>57611914
>utxo miner validated tokens
In hindsight I'm shocked nobody has done this yet

>>57612572
it's bearish for btc I suppose

>>57611039
$10k at the very least but I wouldn't be surprised if it goes higher
>>57612687
KAS is a pure payment coin. Smart contracts are super important for a ton of daily use cases like payroll, midwits often overlook this. That being said I'll buy a bag in the next bear cycle.

>>57612258
I already knew about the UTXO Commitment/FastSync work but I had to look in to the rest a bit more.

XThinner focuses on compression, capable of reducing block data to about 12 to 16 bits per transaction, achieving a reduction of up to 99.6%. Already tested on mainnet.

Blocktorrent works by breaking down a block into small, independently verifiable chunks for transmission. Each chunk is designed to be about the size of one IP packet. The key goal is to improve block propagation performance by allowing nodes to forward each IP packet shortly after receiving it, regardless of the order or whether other packets have been received. This is a departure from traditional methods where nodes couldn’t forward the first byte until the entire block was received and validated.

Performance target with Blocktorrent is to be able to propagate a 1 GB block in about 5-10 seconds to all nodes in the network that have 100 Mbps connectivity and quad core CPUs.)

That could definitely change things up.

>>57613588
>That could definitely change things up
Yeah, that's why I'm not shy about $50k

>>57613588
I guess the volume 8 months ago makes more sense

>>57612996
Based HOBA chad making fun of Reddit fags asking for SAUCE SAUCE

>>57613023
Nah it’s honey badger jeet shill group

>>57613033
You think that image is AI generated? Impossible show me the AI generator that can make memes like that

You are probably just little dick haters hating on HUGE HOG HOBA CHADS

>>57613588
Checked
>>57613615
I don't get paid until Friday
You fuckers better not pump without me

>>57613023
yeah, look at this thread kek. if you saw any of the pepe/doge ai comic bullshit posts that were relentlessly spammed in every thread like this shitcoin is, its that same jeet
>>57611681

20x from ATL 2017
22x from ATL 2021
From ATL 2025? 88$ ....24x?

>>57613023

Of course it is anon. Anyone posting these weird pics is consider a bot now.

>>57612286
miners want bch to do well they don't want to attack it. big blocks means more transactions in a block, they get fees on those txs.
plus bch isn't planning on pushing everyone off the network on to lightning channels where the miners make nothing off of their activity. bch makes sense if you think about it.
they arent as emotional as you are either, they just want a healthy market.

>>57614146
I see 50-100x
this >>57611914 point makes sense

>>57611039
All this discussion right or wrong is so BOOLISHHHHHHHH bought 10 just incase little baggie can’t hurt:) would love 21 though

>>57611914
>greater than 1000x efficiency over EVM
>not a buggy pos like SOL
shiett nigger sign me up

>>57615806
>miners want bch to do well they don't want to attack it.
only faggots do
you lost, ping pongs

>>57613390
>Smart contracts are super important for a ton of daily use cases like payroll, midwits often overlook this.
agree
>>57613588
impressive

>>57611039
Ive got $22k if it breaks ATH
Dont know what that would mean for the BTC pairing but the USD chart looks great

>>57611733
kek imagine the amount of seethe this would cause

>>57611039
I don’t see any reason for BCH to outperform BTC, so I’m bearish based all these people betting on over 2.5k mcaps.
Can someone give me the case for BCH?

>>57617023
it's been laid out already hasnt it?
>>57611914
>>57612258
>>57613588

>>57616775
>USD chart looks great
It actually does. Looks like BCH likes to dip before it gigapumps so I wouldn't be surprised to see it test and possibly break the bottom of this flag briefly before it takes off. I'm starting to scale in here though.

>>57617023
>I don’t see any reason for BCH to outperform BTC
Why not? Bull market just started, everyone who wanted to dump BCH already dumped, a lot of believers accumulated in $100-200 zone, so more convicted holders now, it has DeFi & native tokens baked into consensus on L1, and a growing "CashTokens" ecosystem. Look how many people are still sleeping on it. It's got all the markings of a good play.

>>57611039
$0 as bitcoin miners collude to kill the chain for good
people buying this shitcoin didn't learn their lesson with luna
don't invest in shit that can be killed off at any time if someone feels like it

>>57611039
How well will this perform compared to avalanche is the big question

>>57611039
$150 in 3 years.

>>57618292
At this point it's obvious the miners don't hate it as much as you do

bullish.

>>57615806
I haven't seen anyone refute this yet

>>57612905

>>57618924
I didn't expect that
node count is very good too especially if you consider the respective marketcaps a year ago

also
>BSV
LOL

im buying

Should I sell this retarded reddit coin for the 1K I have in it, and swap it over to Bitcoin Cash ?
Bitcoin cash went to like 1600 last bull run.
Its only a matter of time right now

>>57620267
doge will almost definitely pump again but it usually waits until the cycle is nearly over
you could rotate in to BCH over the next couple weeks/month and grab a doge bag in mid 2025 with the profits
I'm not in doge yet but I was thinking about doing this with a few coins I'm in, bch included

>>57620343
BCH I thought waited until the cycle was nearly over too, I'm up like 100 bucks, I might swap out today on Robinhood. I'm considering swapping out my Cardano and RLC also on Coinbase for BCH,
I had 11Ether last bull run, but traded them down like a retard swapping back and forth when Tesla kept splitting

>>57620343
I did it, i now have 3.39 bch, on robinhood.
Cant wait until i start my new job so i can drop 2k into this on my first check

>>57615978
same I'll make it 21 if we dump before halving

>This thread
Yikes.
Beoble people said 350 at most and im ok with that... sounds much more realistic than whatever's going on in this thread lol

A price prediction gamba game would go hard on eesee. They already sell tickets for chances to win jackpots and shit like nfts, why not add this? I know I'd play it, Bitcoin Cash is thrilling right now.

>>57621842
never listen to beoble retard this is making new aths for sure
>>57623057
there's already a price prediction dapp called bch guru I think

>>57623091
Problem with the new ATH and last bull run was the Forkening from 2017, that wasn't this fucker already at like 3K ?
Then only going to a high of 1600, in 2021
this fucker better atleast climb back to 3K
i bought two of them during crypto winter for like 80 bucks, they just been sitting in my ledger

>>57623442
this guy is definitely right if you invest in bch or any shitcoin you're basically just giving your money to me and i appreciate that i also want to point out that even if bch does somehow get to $3k i could just drop an extra $1m to keep it below that and you poor ass bch chuds will have lost everything

>>57623475
WAT

>>57611076
Shut up.
I will be so fucking rich.

>>57623442
They had two forks after 2017 too. BSV forked off in 2018 and XEC in 2020
Those killed a lot of their momentum before the 2021 run but nothing like that has happened since and they have good tech now so ATH could happen this time

>>57623475
$3k is over a $50b mcap if you think your puny little $1m is gonna stop it bobo you got another thing coming
I'll gladly sell my BCH back to you for $20k each

>>57620016
This is an old joke. I will prefer RIO, QANX and AZERO for those sweet gains.

>>57623536
I hope it does bro
im gonna buy more when i get paid
I will put like 2K more into it in April

I just want to share with my bch frens that I finally reached 21 BCH today.

>>57624237
according to my calculations ygmi fren

do these games ever have any real players or is it all bots usually?