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Do western societies REALLY need immigrants to cover low-skill positions that their "picky" populations refuse to consider?
To me it feels like we got enough serf-class subhumans of our own to fully cover all manual labor jobs, no need to have them compete with foreign subhumans over the scraps

>> No.57558296

yes

>> No.57558442

read "the strange death of europe." basically it's a lie

>> No.57558470
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>>57558442
and who cares about the european union anyway it's just a bunch of dumb globalist bureaucrats who are ruining europe with mass immigration

>> No.57558492

not in the slightest, basically the lowest tier bottom of the barrel wagie position has hundreds of applicants at a time, go on indeed, and apply for any wagie job and you can see how many other people applied for them

you'll see hundreds, the supply of workers vastly outstrips available jobs

not in the slightest

>> No.57558494

if there was no welfare or mass migration, white kids would be lining up around the corner for a chance to pick lettuce

>> No.57558509

Honestly all you really need is automation/child labour. Put those teens to work. Shit I wish I was allowed to work part time as a 15 year old. I would be the richest kid in town. The shit jobs can be automated away by machines for cheap. Theres a reason why warehouses and factories have fewer and fewer employees.

>> No.57558517

>>57558442
that guy isn't an economist he's just a neo-con zog.
>>57558269
i think you could make the case that with europe's currently abysmal birth rates, maintaining a low skill labor force would be difficult

>> No.57558523

>>57558517
why are they so low and why doesn't anyone want to actually fix it

>> No.57558526

>>57558517
you actually couldn't because there currently aren't enough jobs for the current population to fill them out, so you're a bullshitter

>> No.57558593

>>57558526
current population? the west' population is padded by immigration

>> No.57558609

>>57558593
why is unemployment over 10-15 percent

oh it's because there aren't enough jobs for everyone you giant fucking retard

no matter what population number you use, there aren't enough jobs for whatever population currently resides in any western country

>> No.57558617

>>57558509
Real shit I remember being 12 collecting cans and scrapping for money, got a few ounces of silver. Wish I was allowed to have a job

>> No.57558673

>>57558269
>serf-class subhumans of our own
In fact you can find many of them here. Now look at them constantly posting wagie hate threads, dreaming of never working a single hour, and trying to "make it" to become full time parasites and I think you got the answer to your question.
All the while hating migrants because they perceive them as already having the life they actually dream of lmao

>> No.57558692

>>57558673
you have no data whatsoever, you're using a vocal minority to say that this is how society works

which is stupid, like you, most people apply for jobs, but since most jobs have hundreds of applicants you will never get hired, because the supply of workers far outstrips the amount of available jobs, now kys

>> No.57558776

>>57558692
have you ever actually worked in a factory ? its mostly mexicans and blacks that actually apply. most white people live with their parents and don't need to do work like that or the ones that do apply are drug addicts and schizophrenics

>> No.57558844

>>57558776
yes I did work in a factory, so you're saying white people go to college so that invalidates the fact that 100 people apply for every job

it seems that you're totally retarded

every job across the spectrum that isn't a doctor basically has 100 people applying for it

it has nothing to do with race

also the only place I've seen black people working in a factory was in a black area of town

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>>57558844
wow really insightful comment i never saw it that way bro you don't know what its like to have a huge cock like me i have a big one my schlong is huge and i can say that because of my massive penis

>> No.57558878

>>57558692
>you have no data whatsoever, you're using a vocal minority to say that this is how society works
>>57558844
>the only place I've seen black people working in a factory was in a black area of town
Lmao my dude, congrats on the objective fact based logic I kneel

>> No.57558879

>>57558869
https://youtu.be/EWMPVn1kgIQ

>> No.57558887

>>57558776
>blacks
>factories
pick one
blacks do not work and have the most ridiculous unemployment rates
your understanding of the world is based on your made-up delusions

>> No.57558888

>>57558878
so your argument is that black people work in low skilled labor, wow, is that supposed to be shocking given the education level of black people

yes, where black people live, they will work, you think white people will move to a black area to work

that's infinitely retarded

>> No.57559018

>>57558523
why would people produce more slaves to this shitty system?

>> No.57559026

>>57558888
Your quadruple infinite brain power has been blessed by kek, so I am forced to checkd your message. But that's my last (you), your power levels are too much for me

>> No.57559037

>>57559018
economic opportunity and security facilitates birthrates, if you see the economy collapsing, taxes soaring, you're obviously more focused on your personal survival over bringing kids into the world

maslow's hierarchy of needs

>> No.57559045

>>57559037
>economic opportunity and security facilitates birthrates
We have the opposite of that.

>> No.57559059

>>57558269
Yeah definitely. I can't get a job because I'm not a member of the ruling party or any nepotism scheme, so they have to make me kill myself and replace me with a Nepalese who gets free everything, it's clearly the only solution.

>> No.57559159

>>57559059
are you croatian?

>> No.57559317

>>57558887
Go ahead, post the unemployment rates by race since you're fact based
I'm curious

>> No.57559722

>>57559159
Yes.

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AI and automation will make everyone here unemployed within their lifetimes

>> No.57559843

>>57558869
Whats the point of this bot? Chatter?

>> No.57560009

>>57558523
>why are they so low
social media; the omnipresence of pornography & the catastrophic impact(success) of the first pornographic trend created specifically for women (also a british tv station)

>> No.57560049

>>57558523
Overpopulation, nobody can afford housing.

>> No.57560065

>>57560049
and 10 bajillion immigrants are gonna fix that right? no it's malicious sabotage. but this is the wrong board

>> No.57560579

>>57559045
basically, and land is basically the key to raising a family, so on top of that even if the economy was "bad" in the past, atleast you could go out on your land and grow things, kill animals, etc, and still survive and even raise children

>> No.57560634

the brown races aren't even net positive for themselves, let alone anyone else
thankfully the one thing browns can't do is hide their excrement hair, eye, skin qualities, so cleansing is quite easy

>> No.57560698

We need to end welfare and charity for anyone that isn't crippled to the point of complete uselessness through no fault of their own. If you can't walk you get first pick of siting jobs assuming you can do them right. If you have no arms or legs you get a pass until you learn to do some kind of phone job with a headset and one of those jaw controlled computer meese. If you're mentally handicapped you can dig or other retard shit. No free food. No free money. No free housing. Any business caught employing illegals during their random audit will lose their license to do business. Only those with REAL ID can work in the US. REAL ID can only be obtained by those born to legal citizens. The ban and deportation will go back 3 generations.

>> No.57560761

>>57560698

no, the governments need to increase welfare and expand welfare to everyone for dental, medical, food share, housing, transportation and universal basic income.

The issue isn't lack of jobs, but lack of stability overall.

>> No.57560768

>>57560761
money can just be printed infinitely the post

>> No.57560772

>>57560698
How does a dude with no arms and legs get to work every day

>> No.57560790

>>57560772
coworker

>> No.57560801

>>57560772
good point. if he has a family they would probably take care of him and he wouldn't need to work. if not the government would have to supply a certain number of helpers to get them set up and keep them alive. If they train well and prove useful they won't have to go in the lake.

>> No.57561609

>>57558269
It’s about replacing the domestic population with docile financial slaves
We’re going back to the tower of Babel, strap in

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57561615

It's just an excuse to suppress wages

>> No.57561623

>>57558269
Apparently you do, considering the video you posted of that clumsy cracker.

Keep to your office cubicles, honky. We'll be out there doing the real work.

>> No.57561655

>>57558269
competition drives wages down. 'need' aint the word in capitalism. This country could get by without immigration; it chooses not to.

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>>57558269
You need to give the poor someone even lower on the rung, so that they have someone to compete against, to hate and blame and look down on.
Or else, they'd have time and energy to start demanding a larger share of the pie.

>> No.57561733

>>57560065
immigrants fix it by living 10 people in a studio
>Verification not required.

>> No.57561747

>>57561623
just make sure to say yes massa whenever bossman shows up, and shine his shoes too

>> No.57561760

>>57558269
The funny thing is you chuds crying about le immigrants are exactly the low iq subhumans who are only capable of low skill work. You can also tell how low iq most of you faggots are because I constantly see you complain about working at walmart and burger king.
So now that it has been established that you are too low iq for higher skill work, why are you even giving your opinion on policy if you are too retarded to understand it?
The only thing you are good for is making me some fries, I'm not going to discuss interest rates or foreign exchange rates with you because youre just too dumb. Stay in your (grocery store) lane.

>> No.57561808

>>57561760
kys jew

everyone understands it perfectly well, you are flooding the labor market to reduce wages, it isn't complicated, none of your schemes are, according to the 1970 backman study jews have exactly 100 iq, they even score below 100 in certain areas

>> No.57561818

>>57561733
sounds like ideal conditions for a plague

>> No.57561834

>>57561808
Faggot, you are probably pretending you didn't go to college because "its a scam". No you dumb piece of shit are just too fucking retarded for it. You get angry because everything in this world confuses you. But because you are a low iq subhuman, instead of learning, you get angry and lash out because thats all you can do. Low iq chuds like you should just be put down, then the world can finally become a better place.
What society really needs is total chud extermination.

>> No.57561840

>>57561834
no one is confused, jewish schemes aren't high tech or intelligent, they are a series of scams, that they often even brag about, the talmud reveals all, quite stupid to make a literal playbook dedicated to subjugating the people of the world and then doing leaving no plausible deniability

look at how hilariously guilty leo frank was, that's you, you haven't escaped justice, infact it's only just beginning

>> No.57561867

>>57561834
That's a very persuasive argument!
I just wonder if the criticical sanctimonious zeal you have for 'Chuds' like that other anon, also applies with the same ferociousness to certain minority demographics who are overpresented in violence crime such as aggravated burglaries, random assaults and murders?
What is your response to this? Are you a hypocrite?

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>>57558269
Only if you want to grow the GDP number faster than everyone else. If you want an actually stable and content society, you would rather accept a slower economy, guarantee jobs for everyone, and keep the population homogeneous. Basically Japan.
Sooner or later the economy will slow down more and more though, given that we live in a globalized economy and you've let yourself become dependent on import to even feed and sustain your population instead of pursuing maximum economic autarky. However if you had done that (((they))) wouldn't be happy, and you'd probably find yourself the target of economic sanctions and various destabilization ops.

>> No.57562010

>>57560772
Bootstraps you fucking commie

>> No.57562057

>>57558269
>Do western societies REALLY need immigrants to cover low-skill positions that their "picky" populations refuse to consider?
It's to prevent price discovery in the labour market.

>> No.57562366

>>57560761
Europe has welfare programs providing all that to the whole population and their birth rates are lower than the US.

>> No.57562407

>>57562057
What do you mean exactly? I'm guessing that the constant inflow of cheap labor keeps competition high and wages low for businesses. What would proper price discovery look like in these low skill job markets?

>> No.57562460

I've seen some strange arrangements before.
>Agriculture business owner ships over Mexicans on work visas
>He gives their family a house to live in on-site

I find it hard to believe that there aren't native people who would accept this arrangement. Would you consider being a field worker if it guaranteed housing? I'm sure there's something shady going on about what they do.

>> No.57563107

>>57558269
Damn, that guy was having a really bad day

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>>57558269
>Do western societies REALLY need immigrants to cover low-skill positions that their "picky" populations refuse to consider?
No. AI burgers are already in the works.

>> No.57563215

>>57558492
This, for Canada it’s true and of course America. Not sure about Australia and New Zealand but the rich anglophone countries are all collapsing. Some countries where it isn’t shit but might become shit:
Japan
Taiwan
South Korea
Brunei
Hong Kong*
Macau*
Singapore
Malaysia
UAE
Qatar
Kuwait
Saudi Arabia
Oman
Bahrain
Israel(only for Jews)
Monaco
San Marino
Vatican City
Lichtenstein
Andorra
Switzerland
Austria
Germany
Denmark
Sweden
Norway
Finland
Iceland
Ireland
Czechia
Slovenia
Estonia
Poland
Lithuania

>> No.57563244

>>57558269
Ban the public social net and money printing and we will see a real and rational economy very quickly.
Also no one "need immigration". If you come here and you can sustain yourself by creating value for others you are good for the economy evidently. But it should be you individual choice and not some political or economic program.

>> No.57563612

>>57558776
i worked in a mdf fiberboard factory for 3 years. it was 99.99% white. i saw 2 blacks in the entire time i was there. they were both contact workers for an outside welding/industrial maintenance firm. there was one asian guy. i went to high school with him, he was adopted and culturally a redneck.

>> No.57563670

>>57561760
i work remotely in a high skill white collar profession and im anti immigrant. sorry pajeet, but you will NEVER be white and you will NEVER be American.

>> No.57564795

>>57558494
Disingenuous retard cattle. Who do you think worked those jobs before corporations decided to lobby the government to bring in de facto slave labourers to dilute native wages? Allah willing you get raped by a platoon of migrants in a cold alleyway and have your throat slashed

>> No.57564834

>>57563612
Nooooooo but people in the thread said that wypipo were supposed to be lazy drug-addict alcoholics who need foreign entitled violent ethno-nepotist subhumans to just do the jobs they don't want to do!

>> No.57564851

>>57561760
>>57561834
You deserve to live in a world without the requisite number of white people to keep wiping your ass for you, we'll see how you like it.
>>>south africa, zimbabwe.

>> No.57564893

No its obviously bullshit to anyone with an IQ of 80+. Americans used to do those jobs and are perfectly capable of doing them again. Pickiness has nothing to do with it, the jobs would just have to pay more and people would do them.

The real reason the powers that be are doing this has a lot more to do with real estate values, funding social security, and other shit that boomer voters care a lot about. Also probably the jews trying (and succeeding) to exterminate white people.