/biz/ - Business & Finance

D'WACKING IT ALL NIGHT.
WE OPEN AT 50

The highly coveted Core PCE data drops in the morning. Will it heem anyone?

SHOW ME YOUR CIVIL WAR FACE

>>57413437
maybe...

Bought 250 BOIL today

>>57413115
Ok here's my schizo rant on the weaknesses all the tech "darlings" have and why I think they are becoming zombies.
>microsoft
They never made any significant products to drive profits beyond excel and windows up to a certain point. By the time ballmer left, their momentum was gone in building business acceptable software. The typical defense people come up with is that they are the standard in business, yet their products are becoming bigger and worse cybersecurity nightmares. This won't be acceptable forever and companies will move away from their software or go bust in escalated ransomware warfare and microsoft loses customers, it goes down the path of boeing then the path of 3M in terms of stock health. They are getting eaten alive in the gaming sector to valve and nintendo. Their marketcap is blowing up in a bubble after a QE bubble while their business model is turning into a shaky netflix subscription service. AI for microsoft is windows 8 tablets, a gimmick that gets pushed aside instead of a real profit machine.
>apple
They are dying slowly, new mac users are coming from windows but that is not a long term growth channel considering personal computer purchases peaked a decade ago. The vision will never catch on in the state of our economy as we will never go back to a QE obama era economy. Tim cook put the company on autopilot from steve jobs momentum, they are going down the path of GE or ford. Eventually like windows for consumers being infected by designers destroying functionality their mac os will get infected and using a new mac will be like buying a ticket to a boeing plane ride. Traditional computers will be used less and less until its just power users using linux where there is no stock for linux distros.
>google
Their products are not important anymore. Email is a dying trend for people lacking tech skills. Search is a dead end. Power users that would still use google search use alternatives, SEO is dead to tiktok trends.

Eat shit Pooh. Unprecedented intervention and your shitty market is still giving back gains, and I’m making money off the misery of a billion of your screaming ching chongs.

I actually liked my HELFY meal tonight, it was pasta with a cream sauce, broccoli, and bacon
I could probably just buy frozen broccoli and jarred cream sauce to make it again though, it was a lot of work to make the sauce, and also chopping the broccoli was a pain. I was supposed to use a whisk, but I'm pretty sure my exgf took my whisk when we split up...
I'm still not buying HELFY stock

>>57413483
Ya, take your meds. Stop giving so much importance to these tiktok bullshit faggots. Real world is not that. Buy SOXL

I GO CHOP YA DOLLAR

AMD $300 by June? They're a serious competitor with NVDA and NVDA can't keep up with demand. idk bros I don't see this AI train derailing any time soon

Which ETF should I buy tomorrow?

>AAAAAAAAAA SELL LE HECKIN COMMUNIST CHYNA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL
This shit is so fucking fake and gay

>cont.
>meta
zucc was smarter then the rest of the big tech groups by blowing cash on VR software first. AI is dumb to deploy if your profit streams are about advertising revenues. You can spam AI but everyone will catch on your user engagement is bots. Meta will spiral down like the rest because it relies on apple to get a VR hardware platform going which it won't. Consumer technologies are economies of scale, global economies of scale rely on safe global trade and that is ending and peter zeihan is correct on that point.

>>57413475
Also God bless OIL and NATGAS

>>57413539
BOIL no question

>Rate my Port /biz/

>>57413477
WHY ARENT YOU GOYIMS SPENDING ON PERSONAL CONSUMPTION?!?!?!

>>57413575
Heil.

>>57413575

>>57413575
You like selling puts? Has it ever backfired on you?

it is every young girl's dream to marry an OIL baron

>futures
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
WHAT THE FUCK

>>57413650
is the smell of camels included in those dreams?

Archerbros, we gettin paid

>>57413596
What am I even supposed to buy that I would give a shit about?
I can pirate the few films and shows I want to watch and there's plenty of good free games

>>57413696
Probably gonna get paid in corn

>>57413711
It says CASH money nigga

>was up 2.5% today in one of my better days lately
>already down 3% by the time postmarket was done
You can't fucking win man

I think my puts are going to break even tomorrow

I sold oil several days ago and it keeps fucking pumping FUCK FUCK ME

>https://www.reuters.com/markets/canada-britain-pausing-free-trade-agreement-talks-2024-01-25/

UHM BROS IS THIS BAD?

>>57413749
It's never too late to start accumulating again.

>>57413749
Thanks for playing pal

>AAAAA CHYNA IS LE HECKIN ANTI FREE TRADE COMMUNIST
>NOOOOO WE NEED HECKIN LE TRADE BARRIERS AAAAAAAAAAAAA
lmao

>>57413704
Don't you want to go on vacation goy? Don't you want to get an EV goy?
Don't you want to upgrade your living space goy?
Don't you want to CONSOOM goy?

>>57413739
IM GONNA BUY SHORT DATED PUTS AT OPEN AS AN ACT OF SOLIDARITY WITH THIS ANON

TSLA is going to be in the toilet for about 30 trading days or so. After that expect it to start gunning for over 200 again.

>>57413539
COAL and NUKZ

>>57413711
Corn is probably a really good deal at these prices actually.

>>57413749
I sold mine at about 74.50 and started buying again at 75.50. I just start small when it's already high but showing more upward trend.

>>57413475
>be arab
a welcome development
>>57413483
based

>>57413483
> Microsoft
you forget that 90% of goys buy a laptop with Windows OS on it.
you also forget that Microsoft literally builds its own hardware now, the Surface laptops
idiot.
> apple
sure
> google
they have a shit ton of money somehow

>>57413834
Hey I do business with some of these companies

should I invest in BBC

>>57413899
the british get blackmailed into doing that on your behalf

>>57413899
BBW is near a slurp zone

>>57413553
>USSR
80 years
>CCP
75 years. aint got a lot of time left to figure this one out, chynabros

>>57413911
They figured it out a long time ago. China is fascist now.

>>57413483
Meds for 1 and 3 but apple I agree. Fuck their shitty overpriced bullshit product

I am up 7% YTD

>>57413483
>never made any significant products to drive profits
>sitting on a mountain of cash

>>57413895
>they have a shit ton of money somehow
pic related

>https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/cicadas-are-coming-rare-dual-emergence-could-bring-one-trillion-of-the-bugs-this-year-180983635/

What the fuck is this bearish for food stocks?

>>57413539
NRGU

>>57413696

Nvda and amd still worth buying?

>>57413749
Come home and buyback in

>>57413965

>>57413954
>fucking ai slop doesn't know how to hold an M-16
bearish for AI companies

>>57413931

Oh yeah?! I am up 16%

How do you guys feel about SOFI? Earnings drop tomorrow

>>57413992

It has less than 1 year of cash left. It will go bankrupt soon. Insider selling is strong.

>>57413974
We know it's overvalued
They know it's overvalued
We know they know it's overvalued
They know we know they know it's overvalued
But the question is, will it be more overvalued?

>>57414022

Yes. Hype train has no breaks
No one knows when it derails

>>57413764
>futures

How long do I hold my soxs?

>>57413961
And?

>>57413974
So just nvda? Alright I'll take it, but if this loses me money I'll shit on this guy's doorstep

>>57414041
AMD is the better buy now imo >>57413534

Puts or calls tomorrow?

>bought stocks for first time in life
>up $3.50
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOO

>>57414066
anime is gay

>ADM consistently trades in the $30-$40 range
>2020, new CFO comes in
>Pumps to $80 and stays there
>Accounting probe announced, CFO suspended
>Drops to $50
>Class action suit filed for securities fraud committed between April 30, 2020 and now
Hmmmm…

>>57414068
First one is free and you wasted it. Should've gone all in on INTC puts. Now get to sleep wagie. Long day in the cagie tomorrow.

>>57414072
verification not required

>>57414085
with my bank the first 10 trades are free :) and i don't go back to the cage until sunday night. cope & seethe nigger

>>57414066
Probably puts. I'm not risking my AMD stocks any further. It's too heavy and it's time to get a load of.

>>57414021
how do you learn how to make sense of the cash flow statements? i bought a couple books but the cash flow stuff is really confusing to me. the balance sheet and income statement are intuitive but on cash flows do you just look at the reconciliation? because it shows their cash is much higher than reported on their 10k annual. so they have more cash now than they did. isn't that a good thing that is reconciling more cash?

>>57414124

Read this book. It shows how to do fraud without breaking GAAP rules.

It explains how CFOs make everything look good even when the world is ending.

>>57414142
>(((Berman)))
every time

>>57414072
Shut up scoob

Xi's scheduled buy order just went through

>>57414142
im going to order it. i bought value investing by bruce greenwald and why stocks go up and down by pike. i think they talk a little bit about cashflow but that is really what i want to learn about. i heard understanding a businesses cash flows might be the most important thing to look at when picking stocks, and returning shareholder value.

I have to sell everything to unfuck my poor decisions.

>>57413497
>my exgf took my whisk
Wow that’s low

>>57414029
Tomorrow's open is going to hurt, isn't it?

>>57414081
Stop noticing things. Still, I gotta admit that I slurped.

INTCsisssies, how are we feeling? INTC seems to no longer bleed cash and is now presenting a good slurping opportunity. Right now it's down 11%. After the massive bull run, it's still pretty high up there but for those that missed out when it was 30 bucks... this is a pretty good deal.
This market is really difficult to gauge. When do you slurp? Everything ran up so high that's it is difficult to tell if this is a good slurping point. Clown market

>>57414142
What are some of their tricks? I only know how to do fraud while breaking GAAP. But it's technically only breaking GAAP of you get caught. Off the top of my head some tricks:
>pushing sales into next fiscal year or quarter (or including next year sales in current year)
>Revenue recognition fuckery in general (% of completion/completed contract manipulation)
>Not capitalizing capital expenditures (or capitalizing things that should be expensed)
>Depreciation/amortization fuckery (using not reasonable useful lives and salvage values)
>Expensing owners/managements personal expenses that shouldn't be there
>Playing around with the dates of receivables/payables
>Playing around with dates on checks written/collected
>Playing around with dates of returns/refunds/subscription cancellations
>Playing around with when you pay certain suppliers
>Not capitalizing lease obligations
>Booking unearned/deferred revenue as earned
>Fucking with dates of payroll bonuses and employee retirement contributions

I've sold in the last few weeks to amass a nice chunk of cash. This is the first time I've had much cash since I went all in during the covid crash. I have no idea what happens next obviously but I'm ready either way, collecting over 5% in my sweep account. Are you ready for anything?

>>57414215
Yes I'm staying in with a stop limit loss and hoping it keeps pumping

>>57414219
>stop limit loss

>>57414210

They also cover, allocation and accrual fuckery to make gross margins look good.

It probably comes under
>Not capitalizing capital expenditures (or capitalizing things that should be expensed)

That you mentioned.

I'm gonna pump my military and tech stocks, civil war 2 could be happening LETS FUCKING GO

>https://youtu.be/7VeIdo3anqQ?si=YyIY_5e1DJlDbDXF

>>57414227
What's wrong with that

>>57413899
BCC is actually a beast. If I knew anything about trees I'd probably look into them.

>>57414238
They flash crash and grab your stash, basically mashing your gash

>>57413961
That 'jeet was in charge of Nutrition then got bumped up to CFO like a year or two ago. Fraud? Certainly. 25% of the company worth? This ain't Enron, no.

>>57414235
I also forgot to mention equity method reporting of consolidated entities and reporting variable interest entities. That was a big thing with Enron. And to go along with that currency conversion fuckery with foreign subsidiaries

today i didnt lose money because i didnt trade

>>57414256
kek

>>57414253

Turn arounds take time. Regaining trust take time. Are you willing to lock away your capital until that happens when there are plenty great stocks elsewhere?

>>57414197
Might be a good buy if it survives the probe and the nutrition expansion doesn’t evaporate in a cloud of fraud. I’m going to watch and wait. There’s time to let some of the uncertainty shake out.

INTC is a bit of a dog. It’s a “semiconductor utility” in a sense. It’s not going anywhere and you can make some money on the fluctuations, but you’re not getting huge gains and the dividend yield sucks so there’s no added incentive. I’m still green on mine but there are easier ways to make money.

>>57414124
Cash flow isn't GAAP. Just ignore it.

>>57414275
>plenty great stocks elsewhere
Name five (that aren't NVDA or Jackie Chan)

Pooh Bear got fucked today. I cleaned up on his shitty market. Fuck all Zhangs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgUFXYLy7iE

>>57414294

From my past year holdings and recent purchases:

SK-Electronics CO.,LTD.
Nadex Co., Ltd.
Mammy Mart Corporation
Kisco Holdings Co Ltd
Koike Sanso Kogyo Co.,Ltd.

>>57414286
>but there are easier ways to make money
Certainly true. Just buy INTC competitors like AMD. But because of my strong aversion to buying at ATH... but of course, you buy the stock that is actually strong. It is strong for a reason.
I would like to know why INTC guided so low though and if it can reflect the industry as a whole. IBM was fine. If others like AMD start guiding lower, we could be looking at a slight bear run. I'll have to look at INTC's financial report to make sure it doesn't stink somewhere

>>57414252
If they crash it too fast and hard they won't grab any of my stash. I agree stops without limits are dumb.

AMD Friday morning stop loss strike team assemble.

>be chinese
>invest in housing market
>housing market collapses into dust and broken dreams

>be american
>invest in strongest market on earth
>said market exist in a country that is unironically about to collapse into civil war

its over bros, there are no more even reasonably safe havens to make it through

Alright so INTC's report is confusing as hell.
Basically everything is down in 2023 compared to 2022. It's only the Q4 that was any good (compared to Q4 2022).
Their AI segment has also gone down which is a bit worrying since that is the one segment where everyone else has steadily seen gains. I guess Intel was just lucky and got carried along for the ride with the insane bull run.
Lower EPS in 2023 so their newly calculated PE should be even higher for this year. Big kek.
Confusing tax rate
>Tax rate for 2023: (119.8)%
>Tax rate for 2022: (3.2)%
The smeg?

I sure hope this doesn't bode well for the rest of the semiconductors

Serious question for mumoids, do you actually believe the soft landing idea?
Are you going to go short once the recession signals get very loud?
How can anyone think this isn't the top
We just did a double top

>>57414311
Why would you make money the hard way when you can make it the easy way? Liquidity on the SEHK is all fucked up. Honkies are there for the taking.

are you shocked, /smg/

>>57414395
Why in hell would anyone go into anything but US? I can buy some tech and get impressive gains in a couple of years. Reliable, free, and guaranteed gains.
China offers nothing but insane volatility... the bad kind of volatility.
But sure, if you are sure and you are making money off of it, go ahead.

Ok wtf, I could have stayed up til after midnight taken profits of my shorts and just reshorted, but I wasn't awake, now we are down again. I now took some profits. I hope I don't regret it. But things like these, show what a botmarket this shit is.

Instant drop after EU midnight only to repump while nobody is really trading. EU is closed. US is closed. China wasn't open yet. At best Australia and Japan. But how does it work that they would theoretically risk to buy german stocks up so that the drop is negated etc.

Futures are such an abomination. I can understand the reasoning for futures on commodities like wheat etc.

But on indices, futures are nothing but an excuse to trade an asset that shouldn't be tradeable outside market hours, for the sake of making money 24/7

>>57414380
The double top is an illusion. Adjust the graph since 2021 for hyper inflation and we've been crashing the entire time. We're down around 50 or 60 percent from the 2021 top. This is the bottom most likely.

>>57414252
i wish i had a gash to mash

>>57414417
>hyper inflation
Disregarded
You dumb

>>57414424
The truth hurts doesn't it bobo
Snp 15000 eod

Everything is red in the after hours. So the stock markets are going to make a correction starting today?

>>57414399
I hate these doomerfags so much like that steve van metre, jbravo and other youtube grifters. Niggas are wrong 99% of the time.

I also can't get over the fact this guy is called Kazaks (ECB). I just can't not think of vidrel when I hear or read his name:

https://youtu.be/Jl0VWJdE01M?si=GtU23QLZS7YxNYP7

>>57414399
I'd love to see GDP adjusted for real inflation. i.e., real GDP. I mean I still think the economy is fine but no way it is growing that quickly if adjusted for inflation. Hell, the inflation is the reason for the acceleration in GDP.
>>57414413
Trading futures seems like hell and seems subject to basically no rules since there is no volume, correct?

>>57414438
many such cases

>>57414411
I go where the money is. Third world monkeys are ripe for exploitation. Nigger, you’re reading INTC’s financial reports and trying to squeeze out pennies. You have to ride the macro on something like INTC.

>>57414449
The thing is all indices you trade, even when named "cash" on those CFD-platforms are essentially futures, as they are open almost 24/7 depending on your broker.

IG is almost 24/7. CMC has some short pauses 1 am germantime (after midnight). Pepperstone also has such a short pause. But other than that these markets run all the time. DAX, S&P500 etc. Smaller or less popular indices like OMX close at night on CMC for example. Also the CAC. But not on IG. It is dependent on your broker.

>>57414451
Nah I'm trying to find good opportunities to slurp. I already have MSFT; Broadcom, NVDA, AMAT, and TI. I missed out on QCOM, INTC, and AMD.
I once held a China ETF... never again man. Held it for two years before selling +2%

>>57414413
Also was right on taking profits, faggots pumping like on a timer.

>>57414450
>>57414438
>>57414399

>>57414450
>>57414438
>>57414399
>keep losing money

>>57414484
>missed out on AMD
Who would expect this shit to pump even higher with those numbers? At this point it is gambling. Like a fuckin cardhouse only waiting for somebody to pull one card out. I was also making fun of NVDA, but AMD is actually worse in those regards. (P/E)
And please don't tell me about Tech and future and AI etc. We are talking about centuries of earnings.

>>57414495
>>57414511

>>57414360
>Data center and AI down
>right now
Lol

Companies seem to not trust Intel in that regard.

>>57413255
and that's how it looks when you actually trade it because
>contango

AAAAAAAH GERMAN CONSUMER CONFIDENCE IS WORSE THAN EXPECTED AND PREVIOUSLY, PUMP THE DAX, lol
>German GfK Consumer Confidence Feb: -29.7 (est -24.6; prev R -25.4)

>>57414523
good for my MDAX short

>>57414523
Euro markets are as much a clown show as US markets.

>>57414513
Nothing to see here man. But a lot of their financials are not counted in because of their purchase of Xilinx so I guess their real PE is lower. Still insane though.
>>57414491
Why in hell is EU pumping? US is looking to open negative, China down, Japan down.

>>57414527
Should I ever get out of my DAX shorts, I'm done with DAX.

Switching to MDAX and FTSE (for shorting).

For buying DAX and maybe OMX and Shit and Piss.

>>57414537
Will probably dump down again. They can't push it lower, so they pump it up again only to dump it down to premarket levels. That's what I assume will happen during EU.

>>57414541
Yeah DAX is too international and strong, MDAX is more exposed to local German weakness

Bros, I used the money I made from stocks today and invested in a bunch of these 'mushroom growing kits'. They were on clearance sale at Home Depot for $7 each(msrp was fucking $28), so I bought six of them(3 pearl, 3 pink oyster).

Wish me luck lads, I've never grown my own mushrooms before.

>>57414551
You're the french anon in poland? Who's trading on CMC, right?

>>57414572
the jew fears the closet mushroom farmer

>>57414537
Should have bought AMD anytime before now. If you aren’t in, you missed the boat. Let it go. There are always others.

DAX looking a lot like picrel

>>57414551
Anyways, in case you are who I think you are. I can recommend Pepperstone, especially for indices. Their formula seems to be better for overnight. Less costs for buying and more interest for shorting. Check it out. I knew them earlier, but I think they didn't have Paypal as a payment method back then.

Charts are not that great, but I use the chart of IG anyways. In regards to orders they have a lot of stuff. DAX spread is 0,9 which seems to be the lowest I could find during EU trading hours, afterhours 1,5.

I think the spread for MDAX is very similar to CMC spread for MDAX. The main argument is the overnight fees. Although from what I just tested the minimum margin for MDAX seems to be around 2k (1 Lot). Looks like you can't make small trades on the MDAX, but only the larger indices.

But in case you want to trade the large indices Pepperstone seems to be good.

>>57414608
My NVIDIA cost basis is $178. Would not buy today.

>>57414608
Best you could do at this point is gamble with highly leveraged options for fun. But putting a lot of money into it as an investment.... that would from my viewpoint appear riskier than gamblign with options.

>>57414576
Yep

>>57414618
Thanks but I wouldn't switch just for overnight fees

>>57414634
Yeah, understandable. I would also not, if they weren't significant. On CMC you get 0,9% interest on EU indices. On pepperstone 1,4%. It's like 2 hikes. That is significant. I'm going to gradually switch over to them for indices and trade commodities on CMC. For that they seem to be the most advanced with their huge amount of futures

>>57414594
I actually read the instructions and they prefer to grow somewhere with a lot of airflow and sunlight(!?) to get bigger caps, so maybe closet won't be a good idea. I will just put them on the counter in my big ass kitchen instead.

>sell 1000 dollars worth of MUFG stocks for some profit
>buy NVDA, they grow 5%
>In the meantime MUFG goes up by 6%

I guess this is my fault for not having another 1000 to deposit in my account

>>57413768
Dry your tears until the CCP allows Facebook in China. Until then any complaining from the chinese about muh free trade is hypocrisy

>$1400 deposit clears broker
>nothing I want to even buy

Why are such savage insectoid races the only ones civilized enough to have a lunch break in the trading day?

>>57414659
What futures do they have that CMC doesn't? That might interest me.

I have the feeling prices on old used server pcs are increasing.

This seller is more expensive usually on PCs, but man, they even upload wrong pictures now. You can clearly see the graphics card. But they aren't selling the pc with the graphics card.

I bought a similar one with the K2200 for 118 Euros. This fuckin old piece of shit graphics card (which is good enough for fortnite though (with my nephew)), is selling for +50 Euros on Ebay seperately.

I think I also saw some old monitors increase slightly in price.

On the other hand chinese phones got cheaper by about 10%.

You bought puts, right anon?

Considering SOFI calls for earnings

>>57413534
>AMD $300 by June?
Probably not.. just because hat would mean I'm worth several million dollars, and God has never been quite that good to me.

>>57414691
Eh, I meant CMC has a lot of futures. Not pepperstone. Pepperstone is good for indices IMO.

For futures and commodities CMC seems to be the best. Can't judge on IG, their platform isn't as organized as CMC or in other words, you can't see all futures and commodities as well in a list like on CMC. They have livestock cash, but you also trade the futures and you do spread trading (not sure if it called like that) between the two cattle markets, as far as I've seen for which CMC also seems to be a lot better.

Picrel you can see, they don't have much futures/forwards.

>>57414702
uh sweatie, you're committing a soon-to-be federal crime of sexual exploitation

>>57414727
I'd also support that. It is degenerate.

One thing if it is a drawing and you can tell the difference. Another if it looks hyperrealistic.

Also, the spread should be punishable. If you have this on your PC doesn't matter. It's not harmful, but if you spread it, then it becomes a problem.

>>57414727
>>57414739
She's wearing a thong, chud. Okay, well maybe not in this one. Buy puts.

>>57414702
>>57414727
You guys see the ones that anon in /b/ was making of her getting fucked by horses, horses licking her armpits, and one where she was in a wedding dress and covered in horse cum while sucking a horse dick?

>>57414727
why make up more shit? isn't this covered by the likes of defamation and privacy laws?

>>57414746
lmao based

>>57414739
So you think >>57414702 >>57414746 should go to jail? lmao. That would be bearish for NVDA so I don't think Nancy Pelosi will bloody allow it.

it's funny how the zoomer chuds gargle on the new whore pushed by the media industry

>>57414686
Doesn't London have a 2 minute break? Just eat very fast.

>>57414696
intel CPU
archaic. Waste of electricity

>>57414746
>Chud
It's the Chuds that create these, unironically.

Also don't know if Morelle is dem or rep. Googled him just know, is a democrat. Irrelevant for me what he is. He's right.

>>57414763
>t. chud

>>57414360
>Tax rate for 2023: (119.8)%
Poos would starve if this country wasn't a complete joke.

>>57414727
WE MUST PROTECT THE CENTIMILLIONAIRE PUBLIC FIGURES OR ALL IS LOST

>>57414748
No, but you should post them here so I can add them to my "mocking the FBI agents that astroturf /smg/" folder.

Swedish Unemployment Rate at 8%. that's huge for a tiny country.
Was is like this before Covid ?
why is the rate so high?

Buy puts.

>>57414620
>My NVIDIA cost basis is $178. Would not buy today.
My AMD cost basis is $10.
Still buying.

>>57414777
checked. The New Swedes don't have jobs

>>57414757
You are creating a strawman argument
>going to jail

Can't tell if Morelle meant that with making it a federal crime. Federal for me means it applies to all states. Don't know if the US also has a distinction between crime and offence which also differentiates in the severity of the punishment (Verbrechen and Vergehen in germany). Verbrechen means in germany 1 year jail. If that is also the case in the US, that would be too severe, yes.

I thought he meant to make it generally punishable to spread those images, with a primarily financial punishment.
You are effectively causing financial damage to those people. If somebody sees this and is not able to tell if it is real or not, or even if he/she is, but feels disgusted by that, the person could stop following/listening to that person


Also the FTSE is mooning. Good thing I didn't short it.

>>57414756
Defamation would probably not work in court because defamation has to be believable (you'd have to believe that Swift actually did this >>57414746)

>>57414762
Yeah that's the thing with old computers, the electricity they consume costs more than they do. Just get something like a Raspberry Pi-type of thing (but maybe x86).

>>57414773
uh less-famous femme-presenting people are affected too, chud. Short NVDA and MSFT unless you're a rapist, this is legal advice.

I just realized that they have been trying to legislate the internet, and so far it has been an uphill battle. But our leadships undergo a generational transition, the new ones will see the potential of using AI to monitor the internet.

>>57414779
Prompt pl0x, seems like the red bodypaint enables the nudity but I'm still curious.

>>57414789
I asked you what you think should happen to the other poster
>MDAX going down mildly
holding bags is pain

>>57414761
I think DAX/german stocks also pause 1pm german time for 1-2 minutes. Have seen it with BMW at least.

Buy puts, anon.

>>57414801
>I asked you what you think should happen to the other poster
I can't tell what should happen. I'm not the lawmaker. If Morelle wants to make it a crime it would lead to a punishment. Can't say yet if it was fair, that's why I said, jail would be too severe. And yes, anybody who proliferates would be punishable, thus also that poster. Why should he be exempt?

>>57414803
coomers are not welcomed on smg

>>57414792
>uh less-famous femme-presenting people are affected too
utterly appalling

>>57414792
well, if there is a loophole it should be legislated, but it shouldn´t limit itself to just muh sexual exploutation, Biden called Trump literally Hitler recently, dumb shit like that should also apply

what´s your kink with Taylor Swift having period blood all over her body?

>>57414811
How would you prove that the image depicts Taylor Swift though? You could just say it's somebody that bears an uncanny resemblance to Swift. The chances of this law getting on the books are slim to none and the chances of it surviving a First Amendment challenge are basically zero

mmmmmmm, he bought puts

>>57414811
Fair use, satirizing a public figure, free speech, etc.

>>57414803
DO YOUR FUCKING JOB MODS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Is it so hard for people to see yourself in the position of another person, even sexswapped?

Would you like to see pictures of yourself sucking dick being posted all around the internet. Even if it looks face and not convincing. When it is CONSTANTLY around, it will annoy you the least and maybe even harm you financially and in your reputation.

>>57414835
OH MY GOD HE BOUGHT PUTS!!!!

>>57414833
That's neither satire, as it isn't really political, nor fair use. Free speech is also limited you idiot. Or what do you think is the offence/crime of "insulting" people. An insult that is punishable is a restriction of free speech.

>>57414830
Because it looks like her?

>>57414811
Because there's no reason to punish people who like to make AI nudes of celebrities. Claiming that it somehow harms them is ridiculous, while at the same time we let paparazzi stalk them and sell the fruit of their stalking and then consume it in magazines. Celebrities have telescopes shoved in their faces while they look like shit, and here we are crying about coomers turning their fantasies into pictures.

>>57414846
Lol, do yurocucks really?

>>57414850
there is nothing wrong with punishing coomers for free
And coomers have no leverage in the discussion in the first place.

Fuck me, after seeing what that faggot did to Taylor I don´t think I will even be able to have the libido for the rest of the year

I'M HAVING A PUTGASM!!! HE BOUGHT PUTS!!!

>>57414774

>>57414858
Coomers need to unite and lobby congress. Our right to coom shall not be infringed.

>>57414860
Sometimes I forget that not all of us started out on /b/ 15 years ago lmao

>>57414850
>Because there's no reason to punish people who like to make AI nudes of celebrities.
That is also NOT the point of "fault" or the core of the crime. Not the creation is punishable, but the distribution.

It's not the same a childporn as there also the creation is punishable. It's alos not the same as drugs as there proliferation as well as creation is punishable, but consumption not.

It isn't harming if you create it for yourself to jack off to it. But distributing it, posting it online for others and making it public is punishable.

A paparazzi makes real pictures. It is depicting the reality. Yeah, it is annoying and I don't know the laws in that regard. But you are not making up a situation like in the pictures posted here that isn't real and showing the person in a situation that isn't what she is actually doing.

>>57414867
>>57414871
Extremely based.

>>57414874
For me, it's the reddit spacing. Shouldn't you yuro glowniggers be busy trying not to get invaded by Russia or something?

>>57414874
Why should "distribution" be punishable? You made AI lewds and posted them on /b/ or deviantArt, so what, why should the police and a judge get involved? It's just pictures that everyone knows are fake, deal with it lmao.

Yields...

>>57414857
Should you ever have a daughter, please post a picture of her here, so that I can create AI porn with her and post it all around 4chan and other platforms.

>>57413534
meds, $30 before 300

>>57414846
>Because it looks like her?
An image of a person that looks like another person is not remotely sufficient to prove it is that person. Many people look alike

>>57414840
fuckin lul

>>57414857
wild that celebjihad is still around

>>57414882
>
I space like that, because it makes my post better readable. I'm spacing individual thoughts. I don't care if Reddit does that. I do that because I have worked in academic fields and do not like to act retarded when it comes ot discussing things.

Shouldn't you faggots be busy trying rolling out new fences? I heard the feds can cut them down. Go defend your border.

>>57414905
Whiter than you, Mohammed.

>>57414897
>to prove it is that person
It can't be that person, as it isn't that person. But it is depicting that person. You can clearly tell it is supposed to be her.

>>57414893
Because it can be harming to reputation. It is practically picturized defamation.

Goodnight frens

>>57414882
shouldnt a chud like you be busy fapping while saying women are whores

>>57414916
>You can clearly tell it is supposed to be her.
Prove your theory sufficiently to convict someone of a crime. Pro tip: you can't

>>57414918
night fren

>>57414893
>meds, $30 before 300
Technically, last breakout was 38ish range, wher it went to 160's.. So one could argue breaking 160's could be a 4x, meaning well above $500.

>>57414914
Who cares about whiteness, when you are a retard? I'm not discussing whiteness with an burger. You are less white than germany by default. You have too many mexicans and blacks.

If you were goodlooking, you'd realize race doesn't matter that much. Especially if you are as lightskinned as me, despite not being northwest european.

>>57414916
>Because it can be harming to reputation. It is practically picturized defamation.
So we're back to "current defamation laws are adequate" and "Taylor Swift fakes are not defamation because no one would believe they're real hence there's no harm to her reputation".

>>57414918
good night sirs

>>57414925
It is evident. I don't even know what you are trying to argue around. How somethign should be scientfically proven in that regard. It is a picture, a depiction. And the person depicted on that looks very much like the real person. For that to have occured the creater must have typed the name of the real person into the AI-picture creator. You are arguing like a retard. You are arguing like trump in his cases and you are going to lose as he did.

weirdest smg in history

>>57414955
>It is evident
You can't prove that beyond a reasonable doubt and even if you managed to pull a mouth breathing enough jury to get a conviction it would just get appealed and end up in front of the Supreme Court as a first amendment case and your law struck down and you probably get censured in the process. At which point it's a precendent and another arrow in the quiver against future laws that would be a lot more useful on the books so the legislators with sense won't waste the capital on shit like celebrity deepfakes

>>57414940
>you are as lightskinned as me
That sounds like cope of a darkie.

>>57414941
You are arguing from a point as if laws couldn't be created new. As if only old laws could be applied. As if laws wouldn't go with the time and technology. With time the amount of new laws created grows exponentially, because of all the new fields that need to be regulated.

So, you are absolutely able to create new laws that can regulate a specific case. The only question is then, if it is constitutional. Not if there are other laws that could be applied but don't work because of this or that.

>>57414956
The morning crew isn’t going to know what to make of this one when they get up.

>>57414964
Here is a picture of me. But mind you, I got a tan.

morning misters

>>57414969
Laws are created to solve a problem. There isn't a genuine novel problem that needs to be solved with new laws. AI fakes of Taylor Swift frenching a horse are not a novel problem that needs legislative action. No harm is done to Taylor Swift's reputation. She and her stupid fans might not like it but laws aren't there to protect people from being offended.

>>57414964
Also cope seethe and dilate, yes she's a real redhead.

>>57414981
Good morning sir.
Drinking some hot coffee right now and munching a great crossiant i bought from the bakery.
Gonna do my 300 daily pushups after that and start trading like god intended.

>>57414988
>laws aren't there to protect people from being offended.
Clearly wrong. I can't say how it is in the US. In germany you sure aren't allowed to insult people.

>Paramount doing layoffs

Dude that was like the 3rd major company to announce mass firings recently. What the hell is going on? This year is looking to be waaay fucking worse than 2023 holy shit.

>>57415002
Levi Jeans 15%
Salesforce 700 people
Everybody is laying off but jobs are great.

>>57414874
whole taylor swift ai porn situation feels like a psyop, she's already had issues with elites having the rights to her music and in order for taylor to get her music back she's agreed to be their puppet. i don't think she imagined like this though, very disturbing.
>>57414918
goodnight anon!
>>57414956
agreed but there have been worse things posted in past smg threads (this comes close though)
>>57414981
morning
>>57415002
bobo will take a fat shit on mumoids and laugh.

>>57414988
>There isn't a genuine novel problem that needs to be solved with new laws. AI fakes of Taylor Swift frenching a horse are not a novel problem that needs legislative action. No harm is done to Taylor Swift's reputation.

I also can't tell how you can say that. It is a new problem as there was no AI. There wasn't a person who would in 10 second create a new picture of somebody being fucked by a horse that looks very realistic.

And in regards to her reputation we can't tell yet, but it may be harmful. And yes, laws are there to protect people from offence, which can be seen in those depictions.

lmao my broker (male) unironically just called me

>>57415027
>It is a new problem as there was no AI.
There were always celebrity fakes, and they were a lot more believable than AI fakes, so you're wrong, it's not novel, not for legislators.

Anybody here that supports the distribution of AI porn of famous people:

Please post a picture of you, so that we can create an endless amount of AI porn of you being ravaged by horses, or fuckin a dolphin or whatever. I mean, it isn't harmful in any way, why would you not be ok with it?

>>57415044
>won't somebody think of the heckin multi-millionaire celebrityarinos
It warms my heart to know Taylor Swift thinks so little of your simping that she wouldn't spit on you if your asshole was on fire

>HSI status: down 1.60%
>Xi status: cucked
>Chinese chicken status: plucked
>Taylor Swift status: horse fucked
>Brownoid status: seething
>Portfolio status: thriving
A good night’s work. Night, anons.

>>57414992
>Gonna do my 300 daily pushups

based. ive been doing some home exercises too. gonna get a gym membership at some point too.

i have some errands to run today.

>>57415044
Sir or ma'am this is the stock market thread

>>57415044
cringe

>>57415044

>get a load of this bootlicking faggot

Lol fuck off troon. Celebs get the rope.

>>57415052
What does it matter if she is rich. Being rich doesn't make you a legitimate/justified target for violence, insult etc.

I'm economically a leftist rather than rightwing. So your point is senseless.

You little american brainlet also think I say what I say for Taylor in particular. You are completely unable to think abstract and detach yourself from the specific case. LAWS are made to be appliable to MANY cases and not just Taylor Swift. I can absolutely understand why you burgers are getting fucked over so hard in courts by jews. You simply are too stupid for laws and discussion.

And when it comes to whiteness, let's go back to that. You never were a white country to begin with. You know in germany we learn about the US two things I still remember. KEYWORDS:

Manifest Destiny and MELTING POT. In school we learn you are Mutts.


>>57415057
Great argument.

>>57415064
>>57415075
Same for you. Burgerbrain.

>>57415075

>>57414850
i can fix her.

>>57415044
>there are people who read posts like this and still believe there aren't glowniggers in /smg/
Bearish.

>>57415086
Sadly there are no meds to fix muttness.
Also not to fix identity issues. I laugh everytime a burger posts his 23andme and acts european and clings to his "white genes" and what not to differentiate himself from the other americans (brown and black). You are an inherently broken state in regards to social life.

>>57414748
I didn't see those. Can you tell us where to find them so I can avoid them? I definitely don't want to see that.

>>57415052
there are so many dumb bitches you could poke fun off like Paris Hilton and it would probably be realistic, why would you be fucking with Taylor, has she ever done any harm to you? you know that being a piece of shit for the sake of it is not edgy humor, its just being a piece of shit, dont you?

>>57415075
>Great argument.
I already gave you arguments but you're being a normalfag who's pearl-clutching about the newest moral panic.

>>57415109
meds

Is there a single news site reporting on the Texas border thing? If yes, which, if not, is it because it's actually just a nothingburger or because they want to quiet it down. I'm europoor and can't into burgerpolitics

Also, Nvidia and amd gets nuked starting today or monday

>>57415117
>normalfag
Now you resort to ad hominems.
I already told you. New situation, new cases, new laws. Also, they can attempt as often as they want to make new laws. If they failed once, doesn't mean they can try again to create one that is constitutional to make the specific behaviour punishable. We will see what they are going to do.

I said I'd support it. No matter if the person that is depicted is rich or not. And only in regards to distribution, not creation. You can coom as much as you want to AI porn, I don't care.

>>57415113
It's a place called /b/
(not a good place)

>>57415129
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/melting-pot

>a place where many different people and ideas exist together, often mixing and producing something new:
>a cultural melting pot
>New Orleans is one of the great melting pots of America.

Lol, lmao even.

>>57415133
>Also, Nvidia and amd gets nuked starting today or monday
imagine giving up on an easy 4 banger.. lmao

>>57415147
meds

>>57414748
that shit's boring but some of the sesame street ones were funny

>>57415151
>4 banger
Retard mumoid actually expecting Nvideo to go to 2400
This must be peak smgay euphoria

>>57415133
>Is there a single news site reporting on the Texas border thing? If yes, which, if not, is it because it's actually just a nothingburger or because they want to quiet it down.
i read something about a talk but there's also the huge wildcard of a growing texas independence movement...which recently got snubbed by the ruling party of texas since they struck down an independence referendum (despite getting over 100,000+ signatures which normally would allow people from texas to vote on it).

NVDIA went up by 25% since Christmas, it could drop for some 10% and it would be literally nothing.

>>57414449
This. The whole "growth" thing is just price gouging. We got the townhall meeting yesterday and even our CEO recognized that.
The thing is you can't indefinitely increase the price without pissing off the fed. And that's exactly what we're about to find out with the PCE.
That's one reason capitalism is shit. How do you stop that without a Volker?
Lagarde famously tried hard by saying "we have the names of the companies who jacked up prices too much, if you don't stop, we'll release them" Absolutely useless

>>57415274
Fast food places are just charging more because they can not because "muh costs grew 9000% sorry goys". They saw the insane lengths people would go to in order to still line up for their slop in 2020/2021 and became self-assured they can charge anything and people will still pay it. So far they're right but functionally there has to be a limit somewhere.

>>57415274
Price gouging and company monopolies are often result of direct or indirect meedling of the state, things tend to fix themselves when the economic agents are free. And Im still convinced that Lagarde is some dumb retard sniffing out some eventual french elections, the only reason she even is relevant is because some old retard groped an hotel waitress.

>>57414449
pretty much validates >>57414417
this is an ongoing crash
people are vastly underestimating just how debased the dollar is getting
slurp slurp buy buy buy

the real reason why EU food prices are so expensive is because we have to keep those french and belgian farmers fucks feed, they are hindering negotiations with MERCOSUL because they know they can´t compete and that brazilian and argetinian meat is tastier than their bland halal shit

>Hiring for a role
>It's specialised
>HR Roasties can't even search LinkedIn properly, have to do it for them
>They send CVs for niggers literally from Nigeria with no applicable experience at all
>Won't let me use external agents because "they'll just do the same thing we're doing"
>You need to be more flexible and lower the requirements of the role, or pay more (way more than market rate)

Why are they so incompetent bros?

Basé

>>57415291
I question you "often" here. We're a backend supplier and I know we jacked up price based on absolutely nothing. We don't have any connection with any government and the big Semi lads keep buying it. It's insane

LVMHchads, we're eating good

>>57415333
So what? People just buy elsewere, the only reason they wont just order something directly from China is because in some cases customs fees end up being more expensive than the product

>>57415008
>Jeans

The fuck, people not buying clothes anymore? I don't remember that brand being that expensive.

>>57415206
People also thought that no company could reach a trillion market cap some years ago.
Look where we are now

>>57415304
>the real reason why EU food prices are so expensive
No. You're wrong, as U.S. food prices are literally even fucking worse. E.U. regs ay drive your prices up, but NOTHING like U.S. inflation due to Biden/Trump raiding the U.S. treasury, and RAPING the U.S. consumer. (looking at moving to Europe)

>>57415362
those are two different markets

>>57415206
>Retard mumoid actually expecting Nvideo to go to 2400
Not what I said. And.. in the future, please refer to me as a 'millionaire' Retard mumoid, as it is the fucking truth. Cunt.

>>57415329
+11% now
we're so back Arnaultbros

>
Bloomberg Economics

@economics
There was no relaxation in tone from the ECB on Thursday, Governing Council member Boris Vujcic says after markets stepped up bets on interest-rate cuts

Kek, same shit like the Fed in december. What the fuck?

What the fuck happened on natgas 15 mins ago? lol

>>57415362
I have to wonder if the people like you who write this shit are living in California or dont actually buy groceries or are morons that only buy processed foods. Yeah food is up a decent clip, about 15% on average for my grocery tab. Pretty much everything has had 30 to 90 cents added to its price since 2019. But apocalyptic end times of doubled everything in the US, I dont see it. Milk and eggs and juices and potatoes and tomatoes are all just about the same price as they always were which means functionally they've actually gotten cheaper thanks to the insane devaluation of the dollar. Butter is up a bit, chicken did go up quite a lot but has come way down so its "only" 15% more expensive than it used to be. But yes if you're buying name brand snack bags and soda pop that shit is twice the price it used to be and it can rot on the shelf, fuck them.

>>57415433
we aren't out of the woods yet. I doubt we'll see any cuts this year at all. Maybe in Europe

>>57415449
Not terribly long ago I paid 3$ and change for ground chuck. It's well over $6 and change today. The number of beef cattle probably isn't what has changed.,

>>57415449
Whey power increased by 30% at least in the EU.

I just saw Whey is reduced @ Bulkpowders.
>January-Sale
Wtf is that now? They see people aren't buying and they lower prices and call it January-Sale now?
5KG for 77€

I literally paid 85€ for 5kg on black friday. These faggots are lowering prices, cause people aren't buying.

>>57415487
Its $3.79 a pound here on the plains not on sale. If I wait for a sale I can get it $2.99/lb.

>>57415487
I think it actually is decreasing. You can read reports. It's pretty much cyclical in regards to calves. And foodprices, like basedmeal are very much a reason farmers are breeding less calves. USDA has reports on the amount of calves born etc.

ARE.
YOU.
READY.
TO.
RRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMBBBBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEE?????

>>57415496
To be fair, I got some on sale today for 4.79. But it's usually $6.39

..and if i'm EVER in California, it's either because someone kidnapped me, or I'm dead and they're desecrating my corpse.

>>57415510
I think more price reductions are coming. It seems to hit bulk sellers first and from what I'm seeing a lot of those industries are all of a sudden having really bizarre made up "sales holidays" in the last two months and lowering prices probably to try and move shit. I think nothings moving at the prices they're asking or product flow is decreasing rapidly.

>>57415487
https://www.nass.usda.gov/Publications/Calendar/reports_by_date.php

Here, I hate this webpage. Cattle on Feed for example 19th or Cattle 31th. I think Cattle is a report that comes out january and june and it reports on the general state of the cattle situation in the US, talking about how many calves are born etc.

GO TO THE BATHROOM, YOU'RE SHITTING YOURSELF

>>57415378
I'll refer to you as a dumb fucking nigger because that's the truth.

OK..Utterly of off-topic, but I really needed/wanted to say this:
I love all you guys,
TRULY
..and.. including the people I scream at.
YUP, U TOO
And I ain't just blowing smoke.
I mean it.
You're my bros

Have the best 2024 possible

>>57415538
>I'll refer to you as a dumb fucking nigger because that's the truth.
This nigger could buy you. (And your sister)

>>57415558
You are too proud for how irrelevant, inconsequential and trivial you are (sorry I know those are long words you will need some time to look them up in Bing). You couldn't buy someone who is financially independent you dumb fucking coon.

>>57415566
>You couldn't buy someone who is financially independent
i.e. the clintons will always be able to make you an offer you cannot refuse

>>57415589
>the clintons
Literally who

>>57415566
I'm looking at 1.21M income and at least 2.25M in CGs for '24.
Bite me loser
I could buy your whole fucking neighborhood

>>57415597
>whole fucking neighborhood
Kek
Little fucktard thinks he knows the cost of everyone's neighborhood. You could buy like 2 houses on my very quiet road. Probably closer to 1.5.
You are so trivial little guy. Actually being this low class to tell me how much wealth you have and assuming it's more than mine you must be a mulatto kike-nigger hybrid mutt.

>>57415597
>>57415608
I have more money than you and I am whiter than you and I have sex with more beautiful women than you guys!!!

>>57415611
Boasting about money has reduced you to nigger level

>>57415597
I previously got a
>cringe
as a reply to one of my posts.
Now I have to give that to you.

>>57415608
I also love how americans insult each other based on race
>mulatto kike-nigger
You wouldn't do that if it wasn't as prevalent. Kek

We are going to crash today because I am long and holding until I get out of this hole.
If we gigapump that'd be retarded, honestly.

>>57415615
Money isn't shit.
Competence is.
When you're an adult, you'll understand, (with any luck).

>>57415649
Don't think in days, but weeks. This week will probably stay green.

When I invest in companies I like they get heemed.
When I invest in companies actively making the world worse they moon.

What causes this phenomenon?

>>57415611
>>57415608
>>57415597
Worst smg in history, dick-measuring retards

>>57415652
kek wagie

>Taylor herself seething in /smg/ over AI pictures
What a crazy world

>>57415658
Americans.

https://youtu.be/wmfan_oDdQ8?si=1zLHmTv6uKg3hlbA

>>57413768
Hey I got an idea! Why don't you guys just make your cars better quality and nicer, and try to be better to your customers so that you can compete with Chinese automakers' popularity in the marketplace?

>>57415515
something new happen? msm isn't saying anything and i don't use twitter.

>>57415688
Can't find a car made after 2018 that remotely interests me.
I'm buying a motorcycle today. Despite this shit weather.

Important poll
https://strawpoll.com/61gDm44mOZw

>>57413423
looks cool as fuck, but WHY IS IT RAISING AAAAAAA

>>57415075
>Being rich doesn't make you a legitimate/justified target for violence, insult etc.
Yeah it does you godless parasite.

>>57415795
Not when you are merely a fuckin singer.

Leftists are called parasites. But you demand things that a leftist would want. So what is your problem?

baked i love yukari so much its unreal
>>57415819
>>57415819
>>57415819

>>57414890
major crash in a year and a half?

>>57415660
>Worst smg in history, dick-measuring retards
My cock is relatively small.
(If that makes you feel better about yourself, please enjoy the rush)

>>57414918
sleep tight anon