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I bought 100 bitcoins about a decade ago (I still have all of them). I told my GF to put her paycheck into bitcoin too and she ended up with 50 BTC. I told them that I would hold them for her. Two years she broke up with me because she "fell out of love". Recently I got a mysterious phone call from her, that she had a strange tone of voice. She was reminiscing about the past and then managed to bring up the Bitcoins. I immediately knew that she was recording me to use as evidence, so I end the conversation shortly after.

About a week later, her sister messages me and is a lot more confrontational, saying how I held those 50 bitcoins for her that they were her sister's money. Long story short, indeed it's true that she wants to sue me for those 50 BTC.

There is no paper trail of it and no admission of guilt anywhere, which is why she called me. She gave me cash to buy it back then so there is no paper trail.

Should I fight her on this or should I just give her her bitcoins? Keep in mind that when she dumped me, I fell into a deep pit of depression for years, she ghosted me and never checked up on me to see how I'm doing. I only escaped from the depression BTC pumped over 10 grand. I also have a new GF who is telling me to not give her a penny, that she wasn't there for me, that she doesn't love me like she does, and she dumped me when I was at my lowest, that my new GF would never even think of doing that. Now she wants those 50 bitcoins, I am in a difficult position. I can't just make her rich, especially a girl that ice cold.

>> No.57301526

>>57301480
she only bought the bitcoin because of you. they are your bitcoin now. maybe if you had a child together you could share some. but since you produced nothing with her. just keep the bitcoins. they are your bitcoins now. she can't do anything.

>> No.57301552

Op is a nigger

>> No.57301555

>>57301480
The only correct answer is "what bitcoin, I have no idea what youre talking about"
Dont give that bitch a cent

>> No.57301556

screw the cunt, if not larping

>> No.57301558

>>57301480
wimp, real man stays true to his words. No wonder she left, she could smell the bitch out of you.

>> No.57301568

If it is her money she deserved half.

Do the right thing OP.

>> No.57301574

>>57301480
I'll hold them for you if you want, you can say your wallet got hacked.

>> No.57301577

>>57301526
>>57301552
>>57301555
>>57301556
Incels

>>57301555
This!! Do the right thing OP. She deserves it because it's her money.

>> No.57301586

lets imagine for a second what youre telling is not a fabrication, just for the fun of it

>should I give it back to her
as you stated there is literally no proof of it ever happening
also you could just claim you lost it / got hacked / whatever

>> No.57301603

LARP, but if 50 btc is rightfully hers, then you oughtta return it, especially since youve already got your own bag.

>> No.57301605

>>57301568
Maybe I should only give her the cash that she put in at the time that would make her seethe like crazy

>> No.57301624

>>57301605
don't give her anything and never talk to her again. it's over and she lost out on being rich and comfy cause "feelings". fuck her for leaving a stable situation.

>> No.57301633

>>57301586
Lmao you think a lawyer wont find out? Or a private investigator? Its a little hard to hide 42 million dollars

>> No.57301638

Give her the BTC. It was her money that bought them, you have enough already, not worth wronging someone for more.

>> No.57301645

>>57301480
>There is no paper trail of it and no admission of guilt anywhere,
lmao
https://www.ic3.gov/Home/ComplaintChoice

>> No.57301651

Did they poison me when I got back?
g

>> No.57301653

>>57301605
"You know, i never ended up buying that btc. Here's your money back."

>> No.57301655

>>57301633
the girl doesn't know anything and there's no trail. lmao. you live in some fantasy land if you believe the girl can do anything to get 50 bitcoins from OP.

>> No.57301658

Not her wallet, not her coins. Simple as.

>> No.57301660

>>57301605
How much cash was it

>> No.57301664

>>57301552
exactly, if OP is just a common thief then whatever, you will get what you deserve at some point, it might not be today or next week, but if you get jumped one morning and you skull caved in with a hammer, well, you had it coming.
if you are of actual virtue, believe in western values and private property, and you made promise to someone, you give her the 50 btc, its pretty fucking simple.

>> No.57301667

>>57301658
this. it was never "her" bitcoins to start with. it was always your bitcoin.

>> No.57301668

>>57301480
See >>57301555
Block her number, block her sister's number, become a digital ghost. Maybe even move town. Because unless you ARE planning on literally NEVER selling half, then you can never sell without the worry of her coming for you through the courts. The good news is, she has no paper trial, and hopefully you've been savvy and it's not 50 BTC it's another number so this bread can't implicate you. GL anon, and go to great lengths to stop that bitch getting a penny

>> No.57301673

>>57301660
it was only like 600 bucks

>> No.57301672

>>57301480
>Steals other peoples money
Well, hopefully she'll hire a nigger to beat her, and your, bitcoin out of you. She knows you're rich so you'll have to forever keep looking over your shoulder.

>> No.57301674

>>57301480
She doesnt even know how to buy by herself. She will get hacked or scammed or something and lose it anyway.

>> No.57301675

>>57301664
OP has 150 bitcoins. he can move to any other land and retire 3 times over.

>> No.57301681

>>57301664
You have the mindset of a cuck. If someone gives you their money and then fucks you over, what makes you think they wont continue to fuck you over even harder once you pay them back?

>> No.57301685

>>57301577
Fuck off roastie, it's his bitcoin now loser

>> No.57301701
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57301701

"Oh sorry, I haven't held bitcoin for a looong time. I sold it after we broke up"

>> No.57301703

>>57301701
Rather, ive never bought it anyway. I used your money for booze and hookers.

>> No.57301705

>>57301480
>theres no paper trail
>except this post

i hope you wrote this post in minecraft behind 9000 skeletons.

>> No.57301708

>>57301667
Best answer. It was always yours. Any later is going to laugh at her until she can produce a paper trail to you.

>> No.57301711

>She gave me cash to buy it back then so there is no paper trail.
How did you buy them though? Someone sold them to you in person? You'd have to have use a banking system and an exchange which would leave a trail.

>> No.57301727

>>57301664
Do you think she and her new brown boyfriend are going to settle for 50 when they know he has 150?
Op, hire some body guards and tell her to fuck off

>> No.57301732

You literally can hire someone for 0.5 BTC or less to blackmail her

>> No.57301740

>>57301664
>western values
You lost me here

>> No.57301741

>>57301727
if I was in ops situation id pay 200k for a pasport or citizenship of some other country and just dissapear. he is rich now. if he's not a fucikng retard no pleb on the street will ever find him. he could even pay the 1 million for the most expensive citizenship in the world : el salvador.

>> No.57301764

say that you dont want to get together again, that youre not interested
anytime the btc is brought up say you dont wanna get together, ie simply pretend that whenever the btc story is brought up it means that shes trying to get together with you
it doesnt make sense but thats the fun of it

>> No.57301767

>>57301480
You already fucked up and told your new gf. Because of that, I suggest you give the 50btc back, otherwise it WILL fuck you in the ass later in your life.

>> No.57301771

>>57301732
She can literally just tell a nigger that OP owns over 6 million dollars that are not in any bank and the nigger will brutally beat them out of OP.

>> No.57301776

>>57301605
You definitely will get sued to oblivion if you do this. Either ignore her claim or make her whole, there's not a middle ground once you ring that bell.

>> No.57301786

>>57301727
Why exactly would they risk losing everything after getting BACK her own bitcoins? Just because the OP is a thief does not mean that they would be willing to risk 50btc for nothing.

>> No.57301800

Maybe it's the right thing to do giving it to her, I don't know and have no opinion. But this is why people say "not your keys, not your crypto." She made a mistake letting someone else hold it for her.

>> No.57301806

What's even the legality of this?
She basically said him "here is money, buy btc and hold it for me"
Is he now legally obliged to buy the btc and hold it until she wants it back?

>> No.57301807
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>>57301480
>telling your woman about your crypto holdings, ever
you didn't learn the lesson with your ex, and told your new gf
NGMI

>> No.57301811

>>57301711
Localbitcoins

>> No.57301814

>>57301664
>if you are of actual virtue, believe in western values
You mean (((judeo Christian))) values? That's more of just an America thing

>> No.57301821

>>57301806
>What's even the legality of this?
0. there's no contract

>> No.57301827

>>57301480
>I also have a new GF who is telling me to not give her a penny, that she wasn't there for me, that she doesn't love me like she does, and she dumped me when I was at my lowest, that my new GF would never even think of doing that.
Man you are getting played by two whores at once.

Send your ex the bitcoin and make sure IN WRITING there is no longer any debt. Otherwise this will haunt your life. How expensive will bitcoin have to become before she wants to REALLY take what she wants? When bikers come in and hack your wallet with a hammer?

>> No.57301834

>>57301776
I kind of agree, but suppose the police confiscated your Bitcoin and then "lost" them; they'd reimburse you to the USD value at the point they took posession

>> No.57301837

>>57301480
keep working on your english anon, you're making progress. i'd put you at least at an IELTS 6.0.
work on:
- more complex sentence structures
- not dropping linking words (two years AGO she broke up with me
- not inserting words in inappropriate locations (then "managed" to bring up the bitcoins, "managed" is not necessary, sounds weird)
- not mixing tenses (her sister *messages me* saying how I *held* (hold) those bitcoins AND that they were her sisters money)

good luck anon! you are doing well. this is at least intermediate or even high-intermediate work and would be sufficient to get a job in an international company or to study internationally.

>> No.57301844

>>57301480
cash it out into her bank account then report her to the IRS for not disclosing her transaction at whatever hilarious cost basis she'll owe
you can use the text messages as evidence that you were just the custodian

>> No.57301846

>>57301480
I'm her lawyer. Thanks for the post.

>> No.57301849

>>57301837
I love you guise

>> No.57301874

>>57301577
Pfff

Go to kleros court lol

>> No.57301900

>>57301874
LMAO

>> No.57301913

>>57301767
this. no paper trail huh? what happens when your new gf thinks your BTC is actually her BTC? She could dump you and form a league with your old gf. They could both come after you and claim you raped them or some shit. Many such cases.

>> No.57301919

>There is no paper trail of it and no admission of guilt anywhere,
Your Internet post just changed that.

>> No.57301938

>>57301664
>you made promise to someone
Not legally binding. Eat shit hole.

>> No.57301954

>>57301480
XMR, boating accident. simple as.

>> No.57301988

>>57301821
> there's no contract
Verbal contract is still a contract

>> No.57301992

this is a pretty good larp, except for the fact that she would have contacted you during one of the earlier bullruns, not now lol

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57302032

>>57301480
Remember Rule of Acquisition numbers 1 and 94
>Once you have their money, you never give it back
>Females and finance don’t mix

>> No.57302034

>>57301992
/thread

>> No.57302040

>>57301480
Do the right thing anon. Through her own fault she didn't ask for what was hers back then. It doesn't matter if she's a bitch.
>inb4 provide her with a wallet and drain it shortly before she figures out how to use it
No anon. Give it back, it's not yours and you know it. You have already made it anyways, you'll have a happy, worry free life. Karma is a bitch remember that.

>> No.57302061

>>57301480
You can tell her, and her sister, you have nothing to talk to them anymore.

And thats the point, avoid any conversation with them, any interaction, no matter what. If you ever must be in any connection (lawsuit etc) you communicate only through lawyer.

Its simple as that.

You should also stop any speculation should you or should not, she knew what she was doing and it didnt bother her then. She didnt care.

>> No.57302066

Sounds like a great idea to admit on 4chan that you scammed someone out of two millions.

>> No.57302067

>>57301480
You recommended to her to buy bitcoin. She put her own money into bitcoin. It is technically her bitcoin. I think you should give her the 50 bitcoin. I'm just a believer in karma, so I think you should not hold onto that 50. Give her it and she will leave you alone. If you don't, people have a ways of giving you a curse and destroy your life. They don't know they're doing it, it's just humans can have massive amounts of negative energy targeted towards others. Wipe that possibility away by giving her the 50 btc, then make sure she can never ever contact you ever again after.

>> No.57302072

>>57301480
Is larping on biz best way to spend your free time chud?

>> No.57302084

a decade ago bitcoin was between $300 and $1000
so you're saying you're GF was making $15,000-$50,000 per paycheck?
yeah I don't know why you make these gay threads

>> No.57302088

Also the fact the new girlfriend is saying not to give tells you a lot about her character. Of course she wants the 50 bitcoin too kek. A good woman would tell you to give the bitcoin back so the karma will be gone.

>> No.57302096

>>57301480
"Not your keys, not your coins. Thanks for playing."

>> No.57302141

>>57301480
gay larp story, but inevitably there's something similar that has happened, I'm sure of it. I had 35 yr old Latina try to get in my pants after she found out I had 10 BTC. BTC hadn't pumped yet, but it was 12k each. Sure enough when it pumped to 60k, I got a text out of the blue asking if I wanted to go on a hike and then chill back at her place. It was so blatant what she was trying to do, that it actually pissed me off. Didn't fuck because it was obvious she was trying to ruin my life.

>> No.57302146

>>57302072
yes, wagie.

>> No.57302176

>>57301555
This. If there is no paper trail, then she can't do shit about it. Just say she made it all up. Now make sure there isn't actually a paper trail lol.

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>>57301480
>There is no paper trail of it and no admission of guilt anywhere
this nigga

>> No.57302284

>>57301681
You have the mindset of a sheltered kid. Fuck around and find out you dumb nigger. People kill for a lot less.

>> No.57302298

>>57301480
You should hang yourself so nobody gets those.

Give her the coins you fucking felon minded faggot. It shouldn't even be a question.

>> No.57302310

>>57301480
On the one hand I know what it's like to hate a bitch who won't just love you and decides she has to ruin everything
But it is her BTC really, you even think of it as such. So this is just too niggerish for me to get behind

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57302313

What a sick and twisted thread...

>> No.57302319

>>57301480
>i deserve other people´s shit because we separated
fucking female logic, just give her her shit back if she signs a paper stating she will leave you alone and place a restraining order on her afterwards

>> No.57302346

>>57302319
>I deserve her paycheck because reasons
She's a bitch, sure, but she trusted him at the time and gave up what was likely a large amount of her own time to his advice.
He can dog her all he wants, but he wasn't doing that when he was nuzzling up to her at midnight just a few months ago. She was good enough to relentlessly fuck at whim, not good enough to marry first.
Built his own bed, now he wants to blame her for being the skeezy cunt he wanted at the time?

Give her the coins, she bought them with him as the middle man, their relationship is irrelevant to the form of the agreement.
>I will keep them for you
His word is meaningless? He is her, with a dick.

>> No.57302359

>>57302141
Lol you're a paranoid retard that missed out on easy pussy

>> No.57302389

>>57302359
>OMG SEX OMG YOUO SHOULD HAVE HAD LE SEX
shut the fuck up virgin

>> No.57302436
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57302436

>>57301480
Just tell her the truth that crypto doesnt exist then cash out to buy gold, silver, guns, tools, literally anything tangible. They cant take what they dont know you have. If you don't hold it you dont own it.
>inb4 not your keys not your coins
Quite literally not yours, they warn you to free themselves of karmic debt by "coining" that phrase.

>> No.57302441

>>57302319
>make an ice cold evil bitch a multi millionaire

You haven't thought this through. Would you give that kind of money to someone who treated you evilly?

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>>57301555
>checked but we have searched one your transactions and found out you have holdings in a cold wallet
>time 2 pay up or we'll error 500 your ass
>3 rehypothecationz and pump n dumps later
>here you go, thanks 4 the interest free loans
>at least it wasnt the bannkkks

>> No.57302473

>>57302441
fine then, have the money be used on growing trees in Israel and Palestine for peace in her namesake, those 50 coints dont belong to that faggot of an OP anyway.

>already told the other gf about his shitcoins

why do i see another thread in the making about how the gf fucked and after a while tried to pull the same shit on him?

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57302502

>>57302141
>muh 60k
I buck broke the cryptopromoyids

>> No.57302509

>>57302441
>ice cold evil bitch
What did she do other than breaking up with OP? You sound like a bitter incel (because you are)

>> No.57302544

>>57301480
Just give her 10 btc to shut her up, say thats all you have left and pocket the rest.
You aren't her bank

>> No.57302868

give her the bitcoin equivalent to the amount she invested, don't give her 50 bitcoins exactly.

>> No.57302893

here OP, in case you're not LARPing
https://samouraiwallet.com/

>> No.57302894

This is a larp thread made by a poor kissless incel being cheered on by women hating incels.

>> No.57302904

>>57301480
Why didn’t she ask for them when she broke up with you?

>> No.57302913

>>57301480
lmao all this thread telling me is that woman are gold digging whores fir chad

dont even think one second your gf doesnt just say this bc shes greedy and she would leave you immediatelly too if you werent rich kek

>> No.57302926

>>57301605
This the best option kek

>> No.57302936

>>57301741
This is what I would do.

>> No.57302951

>>57302067
She gave him $600. He then took his $600 and did something with it. Thats the end of the story.

>> No.57302960

>>57302141
my dad was murdered by an anchor baby dropping spic broad to collect benefits and inherit his stuff and house, you dodged a bullet.

>> No.57302986

>>57302960
Yup, the red flag was she was obviously not interested in me the whole time while she sat next to me in physiology class. She peered over my shoulder looking at my phone and found out that way, so that pissed me off too.

>> No.57303001

>>57302986
>all seven tomatoes.
Honestly if she had requested like two tomatoes then the bargain would have been acceptable but all nine? Come on.

>> No.57303002

>>57302986
yup, the silver lining is at least im not making probate court easy lol

>> No.57303044

Anon, be a man of your word. You said you would hold the BTC for her. So honor that.

This type of shit, handling each other's finances, is what you were supposed to do AFTER you signed the marriage license specifically because a bad break up will lead to petty bullshit like this.

>> No.57303094

>answering the phone when your ex is calling
That’s where you fucked up

>>57301992
True kek

>> No.57303096

Depends on where you live, OP. In some places being together for a year is enough to qualify you for common law marriage. You get a bad judge and they will be more than happy to force you to liquidate to pay her (and also pay the taxes associated with liquidation). Fair? No. Legal? Also probably not. Will they do it anyway? Of course.

>> No.57303258

1. your word is worth more than 50 btc if you're a real man
2. you still Made It either way so wtf is the problem?
i would give her the coins, personally.

>> No.57303310

>>57301558
This. OP said he would hold them for her. Men keep their word. But OP probably needs the extra money for his SRS.

>> No.57303364

>>57301675
>>57301681
>>57301740
>>57301814
>>57301938
Look at all of you, a literal pack of jeets and thieving trash. All of you will will exist in torment and die unfulfilled.
Not soon enough unfortunately.

>> No.57303861

>>57301480
Just say you suddenly lost them in a boating accident. If she asks for proof, get into an actual boating accident and send her a photo of the wreckage.

>> No.57304060

Realize how women think, if you give either the old whore or the new whore 50 BTC they'll convince themselves they deserve your 100 BTC next. You don't know what she's talking about, you told her to invest and she never did, simple as.

>> No.57304208

>>57301480
There is no proof. There is nothing she can do except try and trick you into admitting they are hers. Just ghost her and you’ll be fine. If she keeps harassing you, you can get a restraining order against her.

Let her forever regret throwing away the relationship for what was probably to ride the chad cock carousel

>> No.57304729

>>57304208
>there is nothing she can do
5 years later on a cold sunday night after the bills game you get shot taking out the trash.

>> No.57304803

>>57301577
Retard roastie tranny

>> No.57305093

>>57301480
You should get a new phone and move to a better state.

>> No.57305108

>>57301577
what are you going to do about it post wall hag?

>> No.57305132

>>57301480
ESL bait