/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>57290807
It's happening.

>>57290821
It already happened the time to buy moose pastures was 2020.

>still boomps left on the last thread

holy fuck how do I short AI
ChatGPT is a literal brainlet if you don't give it so much data that you've basically solved the very question that you wanted ask that piece of shit software in the first place kek
even the most basic text to speech AI is fucking horrible at pronouncing simple words when the text gets a bit longer

you can't even make an AI racist anymore

>>57290807
>https://finance.yahoo.com/news/housing-bidding-wars-erupt-as-2024-kicks-off-with-some-listings-seeing-over-30-offers-144137916.html

>Shelter will continue to keep CPI over 3%
Can you say "Higher, for longer"?

>>57290870
>ChatGPT
It's such a fake and gay "intelligence".

>>57290890
H I G H E R F O R L O N G E R

Wednesday's going to be a really big day in the market this week if you're invested in either America or China. Lots of American data coming out on Wednesday including retail sales and industrial production numbers, while China is supposed to be posting its demographic numbers for 2023, which if leaked data is accurate should show a population decline of >3 million people and a TFR falling to around 0.85. Heads up to all American/Chinese investors.

>>57290821
uranium miners will be 2024's champions

>>57290870
you would buy puts on nvidia, salesforce, etc.
anything that people suppose will make money off AI, which has already been re-priced before the earnings have actually shown up, is a candidate

>>57290920
All-in on GLATF. Bought in post-coup and got a crazy good price.

Threadly reminder that the USA market is grossly overvalued, and the next time the FED cuts rates and restarts QE, will mark the beginning of a bull market in commodities & emerging markets.

BUY AND HODL PHYSICAL COMMODIDITIES. HOLD YOUR CONTRACTS TO EXPIRATION AND TAKE DELIVERY

>>57290807
https://youtu.be/TxlTHZ0GmxU

>>57291048
THEY WON'T DELIVER ME LEAN HOGS

>>57291069
I can give you some raw dogs thats for sure

>>57291069
Pic rel, the only lean HOG I'd take delivery of.

>>57291069
STACK PALLADIUM AND OATS IN YOUR BASEMENT

>>57291135
I store platinum in my catalytic converter, is this a good place to store my platinum?

FIRST FOR NATGAS AND WHEAT

>>57291151
just stay out of downtown

PHYSICAL LUMBER IS SOUND MONEY

China bros...

How do I get physical plumber delivery?

>>57291165
OONLY GET MOOGED IF YOO GOO
>downtown

Which index for 10 years with monthly contributions? SSO and TQQQ or VOO and QQQ? Seriously asking

>>57291273
SCHD
SCHG
SCHK

>>57291235
I wouldn't mind that plumber working on my pipe, if you know what I'm saying hehe.

>>57291235
>How do I get physical plumber delivery?
grindr

they are clueless
as predicted
(1/2)

>>57291406
(2/2)
>pump my bags FFS
the reeeeeeeeeing is starting

>>57291413
(addendum)
always remember:
when they say
>rate cuts
it is a dogwhistle for
>a return to QE (Fed balance sheet expansion)
rate cuts themselves are only a byproduct of the return to easy monetary policies

>>57291413
smg always knows

What will Berkshire do in 2024?

>>57291431
>smg always knows

>>57291444
people have a tendency to kick the bucket soon after their spouse dies
We will be saying goodbye to buffet now that charlie is gone

BUY FUCKING VOO

>>57291444
The question should be; Why even bother doing anything at all?. Company is sitting on shat load of cash. Buffet himself is rich as hell and upper 90's. in age. At some point you just kick back and do nothing you know.

>>57291444
kind of what >>57291461 says,
and also it remains to be seen how much "insider information inflow" is being provided solely by the two figureheads of the company.
now that one is 6ft under it might turn out that a great portion of (((knowledge))) is gone as well.
on mungers tombstone there should also be written
>life long trader on insider information
not that it's a bad thing. it'd only be accurate.

>>57291229
and when US ban trading of China companies like Russia you will be "why the market failed me". US fags never take responsibility

>>57291482
>At some point you just kick back and do nothing you know.
No, you would.
If you made it to the 7 figure realm this is what you'd do and soon after you'd start withering away with no return.
Beings like Munger and Buffett are driven by such indescribable determination they will do what they do till their last breath.

>>57291495
i can fix her

>>57291510
she already said she isn't into car guys

>>57291495
When USA bans ownership of some Chink company and delists the same company It's like a stamp that the stock will outperform in the future. Examples China Mobile and CNOOC,

>>57291514
>car guys

>>57291069
Yes, hello? Anon this is the lean hog distributor. Wanted to let you know you qualify for a bulk discount due to your mothers recent purchases

>>57291489
Between the two of them Buffett was the one that had access to tons of insider information. Obviously they have better ideas of what companies are doing when they’re on the board, but I don’t think Jamie Dimon, or anyone else, was calling up Munger for advice on banking policy.

>>57290807
The lack of POC in this picture is very disturbing to me. I would have been ashamed to have made money during this time.

if i invest in an REIT i am like a landlord thats pretty cool

>>57291482
>>57291498
Some people work so they can sit back and relax, while other people work because that's what they most want to do. Buffett is the latter kind.

Similarly, /smg/ anons should invest in index funds, stop thinking about stocks, and get on with our lives. On paper, that's the optimal move. But we don't because it's fun to tinker with stocks.

Stinky & Poop tomorrow, up or down?

>>57291719
its martin luther king day

>>57291719
>tomorrow

>>57291656
As a Black man, #metoo

>>57290870
“Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could stop AI from being racist, they didn't stop to think if they should”
(Also, life finds a way!)

is CCJ going to pump for black history month

>>57290870
soxs
join us, its cold down here in bagtown

>>57291461
Jimmy Buffet has been dead for awhile anon. Try to keep up.

Man, I can't wait fir the stock market to open tomorrow.

>>57291807
Based.

>>57291663
Better than a landlord because you don't have to do any work at all.

>>57291406
>goldman

>>57291444
make a lot of money on railways, oil, uranium, and japanese financials
probably suck eggs in AAPL and insurance for a hot minute

>>57291482
what the fuck are you smoking lol
berkshire works for its shareholders, not for the head office's investment manager

How long did it take you to actually start to make money off of shorts, puts, calls, options, that kind of thing?

>>57291872
I'll let you know!

>>57291872
make money?

>>57291872
I do it for the love of the game, not money.

>>57291872
>>57291892
>make money

>>57291872
8 years

>>57291872
as soon as I started. It is all about taking profit.
>now ask me how much money I lost
>then ask me about the cashflow
>2 years

>>57291903
>>57291872
>>57291892
we're here to make digital frens, not "money"
some of us already own real money, AKA silver.

>>57291955
based

any thoughts on TSLY
i bought like 20 shares at a high a few months back, at $16/share. Of course I got obliterated, if I sell now I'm down ~$130 but look at the divvies on 20 shares

>Jan 9, 2024 11.13
>Dec 13, 2023 12.08
>Nov 16, 2023 11.69
>Oct 18, 2023 11.54
>Sep 18, 2023 11.70
>Aug 14, 2023 16.61

right now 20 shares are only about $200. Should I buy more? I don't understand how the share price itself is valued, its obv not strongly tied to TSLA. Is it reasonable to assume it won't drop much further? At another 20 shares assuming the dividend yield holds I'd be getting $20/mo, recovering my loss on this that much faster, assuming of course the price per share doesn't drop much further. btw this is just fuck around shares and not my safe investments

>>57290821
Buying more UEC got me feeling the uranium fever.

https://youtu.be/acMqxcdxE0E?si=mQ4YOznwo3vlU5cG

>>57291719
>tomorrow
at least Oil is still trading

>>57290916
>if [chink] data is accurate
True if big.
>>57291069
Just need a few refrigerated trucks, at this climate, literally refrigeration in the shade should do it.
>>57291336
Uh, anon, I think that's a dude.
>>57291429
It doesn't have to be. The unFED has the power to cut rates and not QE.
>Leverage boy leverage boy,
>Whatcha gonna do ?
>Whatcha gonna do
>Jerome comin for you?
..
>Uh, LEVERAGE, whatcha loan, whatcha loan, whatcha loan raate.. wheen sheriff Jerome come for you!

>>57291894
So you're still rolling backwards then?

>>57291948
Do the needful.

>>57291955
Haha, Elon so modest. Hey, much love, but in all seriousness, you do realize that thing you built can't land on lunar dust with engines running? Takeoff, same problem?

>>57291970
TSLY not A? Down market it's a dog, you're selling naked puts, you got that from the literature, right? The payout is nice, if you can sell your boss on that, he may not notice. All you have to do, boss, is keep that kind of change coming in, and when the market crabs, you're gonna be head dog.

>>57291977
US should invest in coal. Literally cleaner and cheaper than Uranium, way easier to use. China buying all of it to literally pile it up. Because they can.

>>57291995
>I think that's a dude.
Wrong.

>>57291995
>TSLY not A? Down market it's a dog
Yeah not A. I was just fucking around I want to get back what I lost (bad investor mentality), so I basically need to hope that TSLA ("A") doesn't freefall for a few months and then I can get out. Maybe I will hold off, since I don't think TSLA will be up by a lot in a few months, if at all.

Unfortunately I bought TSLY right before musk went full retard on twitter and X and shit.

>>57292009
I was gonna make a joke about not having a hal pass, but fucking yids made a movie about adultery and fornication, and it's just ruining the joke.
So gross.
Long SWBI, DOW, and BOSS.
>>57292030
If they're doing algo trading they might still pull it off in daily bounces. As noted, the change isn't bad. TSLA is going to dominate auto manufacturing for a while, even with the media being angry with him. They're the best car on the market, hands down. Faggot jeet literally drove one off CA-1 in a fit of rage, down 6 stories of rock face, and his family all lived.

>>57292063
>a hal pass,
Wtf is a hal pass?

>>57292084
Sorry Dave, I can't tell you that right now.

>>57291719
If it breaks 1% ytd closing on Tuesday I'm calling a 20%+ bull run for 2024

>>57291734
>>57291737
Tomorrow as in after the coon day niggers.

>>57292030
whoops, 250 feet, that's roughly 20 stories. obviously not all straight down, the car was probably tumbling for some of the ride.
TSLA is revolutionary, it really is. I hate the idea of having to charge, and I still can't deny it.

>>57291035
>34 KB
> Threadly reminder that the USA market is grossly overvalued,
>"But what about all the tech!!!"
>"Never mind that they're dissolving all the engineering and research and the country is trying to become premium Mexico at the same time as Mexico industrializes, it's America! Never bet against America!"

>>57292200
Checked & keked.

>>57292192
>flapping its wings and making fart noises all the way down

>>57292179
So tomorrow as in not tomorrow got it

>coworker and I make $3500 a week before taxes
>doesn't into 6% matching 401k because he "makes better returns managing his own money"
>mfw

>>57292244
Based coworker. Checked.

>>57292221
Thing could shove a dildo up my wife's ass for Elon's private viewing twice a day from that point on, and if we land alive I'm still shaking his hand.
We lose most of our population to car wrecks.
>>57292200
What is Intel new Fab, Tesla, SpaceX, Ford, Lockheed, Lilly, GD, and ARK fund? Hmm? Check mate unwashable brown right hand.

>>57292244
what's his CAGR and for how long? did he tell you?

>>57292244
>>57292255
becked and chased

>>57292257
>We lose most of our population to car wrecks.
those are from women driving into each other and into men, not from a "full-self-driving" cliff launch with 800 ft-lb of torque because a bird flew past a sensor

>>57291844
Why are you buying Japanese financials?

>>57292282
i'm not, warren did.
re-read what i was replying to.

>>57292273
>full-self-driving" cliff launch with 800 ft-lb of torque
Can't get a Lada, Fiat,Tata, or even a Ferrari to give you that. Going out strong. Bit of clean Panama, some Golden Earing on the surround sound, and nothing but
>GAS GAS GAS

>>57292260
He's in his 50s and pulled 80k out of his previous employer's 401k, paid the tax/penalty and claims to have turned about 50k into $300,000 in the past few years. While impressive, I don't see why you would leave a "free" 6% on the table.

“Asians” getting pissy again.

>>57292327
i'll give them this: if they'd make a hybrid GT car that has 2012-styled tech in it, good sound, no navigation, no gay doohickeys like the lightshow, no touchscreen, real leather and more of it than a mercedes, good chance i'd have bought it already

>>57292347
I have to give them credit for attacking financial institutions and/or politicians.

>>57292344
so one of the reasons why he'd be wise to pull the money is that all those previous employers have to pay maintenance on those accounts, and they are gearing up to completely fuck us pensioners over.
a lot of companies are lobbying right now to get some tax rules changed to force small accounts out. you'll only be able to convert so much to an IRA and the rest is coming to you as a check, full penalty, all taxable income
and $80k is probably not safe since "small" in the 401k world, dominated by boomers, is something like a quarter of a million right now.
nothing the government gave you is EVER free, don't ever fuckin' forget it

>>57291719
The current valuations are unsustainable.
I hope you realize what comes next...

>>57292379
I only use my Roth and regular brokerage desu

>>57292362
If they knew how the system worked they would find and target the servers. The actual stock exchange is just a front these days. Of course third world shitskins will never figure this out.

>>57292379
Would this affect government employees with TSP accounts?

>>57292386
>average p/e of salt&pepper is 20
>It's currently 23
>ITS OVER AAAAAHHHHH
The truth is the rest of the world is just god awful and sabotages their own economies at every opportunity.

>>57292413
it doesn't exist yet but not that i'm aware of no

>>57292428
>Only 20 years for the company to make what I payed for it.

>>57292352
If elon ever just caves and puts in a honda flat 3 banger to charge, it's all over. We'll have tesla garages, tesla parking, tesla-pools to work.

>>57292458
Yup that's a good value for the country that will be leading the way at least all century. I'll start to sweat when it reaches dot com levels.

>>57292485
> when it reaches dot com levels
What was that level

>>57292485
>Yup that's a good value
Kek, you're deluded.

>>57292344
>>57292393
>>57292413
oh yeah one more thing to watch out for, in the prior bill that raised the closeout limit to $7k, elizabeth warren slipped in her own bill that creates a public, government database of all old 401k accounts because they might be accidentally abandoned
archive dot is slash UMzuO
>The Retirement Savings Lost and Found Act, proposed by Senator Elizabeth Warren, Democrat of Massachusetts, was wrapped into the Secure 2.0 Act. It charges the Department of Labor with creating a database that workers can use to track down a forgotten account.
so now basically anyone with your SSN or a bit of social engineering skill will be able to find your 401k from a previous employer and if they steal your identity its theirs

>>57292502
Nearly 200 p/e, that level of euphoria made AI hype look like a depression. These niggers thought they would be living in the Matrix by 2004.

>>57292413
No, government retirement plans, least the state ones, will keep what they got. Already some state's are rolling back to a more defined plan because at some point the retirement package is not any better than what you'd get via the private sector. They need a carrot to entice the sheep to work for them. A steady retirement package is one.

>>57292257
>What is Intel new Fab,
not competing with TSMC
>Tesla, SpaceX,
Memes, although if anything could solve this it would be the "US Up India company."
>Ford,
Outdated Garbage.
>Lockheed
Outdated garbage.
>Lilly, GD, and ARK fund?
Finance means nothing without production.
>Brown hands
lol. I'm from Wisconsin.

Bros, will Nvidia stock moon or dump? They announced a new partnership with Twitch and OBS to do AV1 encoding for streams...

>>57291734
What's it like having sex with a big belly fat girl?

>>57292221
speaking of...
https://youtu.be/TZpWmw-7THI?si=TTJBJb7GUXjqH8N1&t=681

Unrelated, someone needs to save Big Lots. That weird place Ollies is eating them for lunch.

>>57291035
US large cap equities have functioned as Store of Value since the decline of hard money, the only thing that would diminish their SoV premium is the rise of a superior SoV. It's SoV demand that is contributing to their price premium so commodities/emerging markets will continue to lag as they're poor SoV vehicles

>>57292545
yeah but what's gonna happen if corporate america gets its way is that limit will double every 10 years from $7k today
if you are 20 now it will be $112,000 when you are 60 and getting your retirement ducks in a row
that means you cannot make any mistakes in the selection of your employers for the next 40 years or else you'll be left with a lot of "small" accounts that you'll get shoved out of between now and then

bros, 2008 is happening again...

>>57292537
>tfw no terrorist gf

>>57291273
QLD or SSO

>>57292510
I know how positioned you are to make no money for the next 30 years holding chink bags, I do respect the mental fortitude it takes to throw your financial future away backing a colony of bugs 75% of whom hate your guts and a commie government that stifles any chance for growth. It's not the kind of conviction that can be broken by an anon on 4chan. So I'm not trying to, just sharing my pov

>>57292591
>US large cap equities have functioned as Store of Value
Not surprised such a ridiculous statement comes from a bitcorn baggie.

>>57292567
sex?

>>57292596
Shill me your California commercial real estate insurance companies.

>>57292611
Even stock people say this. It's an old idea that predates bitcoin by a generation or two.

>>57292030
>Maybe I will hold off, since I don't think TSLA will be up by a lot in a few months, if at all.
Every other time TSLA has dumped like this it pumps back to or higher than where it dumped from. THIS time it's different though lmao. The only question is if the pump comes before or after earnings

>>57292545
Example; KY gov now. (Rule of 87) Years in plus age has to equal 87 before you can retire. 401k plan only. Medical coverage provided after retirement till 65. Defined dollar amount for health coverage. So lets say you started at age 22. You'd retire at age 57. Not bad. But see the stick; 401k can't be touched till age 60. So that's 3 extra years you gotta work. You start right outta H.S at age 19 that gap widens more. You might as well say fuck it and work in private sector cause you'd be making more while your waiting for age 60. KY Gov retirement in 2005 (Year I started). Full retirement @ 27 years. Age don't mater. Pension plan, 401k plan separate, and medical coverage provided till age 65. I'm walking at age 54 cause my pension would be maxed out. Could fully walk at age 48 but I'd be leaving money on the table. (41 now)

>>57292596
Ofc, it is when they kicked the bucket down the road.
>>57292608
Kek you're so deluded. Chinks don't even know you exist buddy, the government isn't Communist is Fascist, and yeah they stifle growth, that's why in 50y China grew from a shithole to the second largest economy in the world.

>>57292565
>TSMC
Builds to spec, does none of the own design.
>T, SpaceX memes
18 launches on the now current longest lived. The fuck you got, brony, jets of cow gas, now on their 18th venting?
>Ford
Making hybrids that sell for $30k and get 50mpg with 240 horse power, full passenger airbags, tow capacity, and 3rd row seating
>Lockheed
... buuuuuuulshit you can write that.
>Lilly, GD, and ARK fund finance.
I'm gonna feed sailors high-end dope from Lilly, put them in stealth subs from GD, and buy ARK shares so when the sailors are raiding your brown village in south-east poostanistan, I can get dividends on the sale of Iphones and wearable cameras used to tape the whole thing.
>I'm from wisconsin
So you're a brown asshole?

>>57292635
A store of value can go bankrupt? I don't think so. The stock market isn't a store of value it's a compounding machine.

>>57292596
I remember a few years ago my dad telling me I should buy a condo in SF because the value will only go up in such a world renowned city. I bet people said the same thing about Detroit in the 50s. Amazing how people never learn.
>>57292628
They likely pulled out this year along with residential insurance companies.

>>57292596
also, copypasta from another thread on this;

>This may be anecdotal but I can also agree that we are absolutely going to see shit hit the fan big time by 2025;

>I went to a funeral last month in Salt Lake City, Utah. Bruh, I have NEVER seen so many fucking buildings, like entire city blocks, being put up for lease and even sale. "Space available", "Call for lease", etc. everywhere around cotton wood heights and Wasatch. It was NOT like that around 2021 and 2022.

>SLC is supposed to be one of the better run cities in the USA yet I'm just not seeing it anymore. You can fucking Google all of those vacant buildings around there, its spreading like a plague.

holy shit I checked and the dude's fucking right kek


>>57292616
Yes, sex, I love bbws

>>57292658
>the government isn't Communist is Fascist
I love baiting you into saying this because it never doesn't sound retarded to say these are even remotely different things.

>>57291663
a 400k house should fetch rent of about 2k a month give or take.

or

>buy 400k of /o/ at 60 bux a share = 6666 shares
>monthly divvy of 1666$
>no headache
>tax and insurance of a house will be about the same as the capital gains tax

the obvious risk is that money in a property can continue to grow while you will probably have slow growth in a REIT due to share diluation. still i like how much easier is it to share a sell a REIT stock vs selling a house.

>>57292672
You think communism and fascism aren't different? Have you ever taken an IQ test, anon?

>>57292687
Your hands must be so soft, I want them on my body

>>57292672
Yeah also the USA government has been Fascist for decades. So I don't get your point...

>>57292676
The risk in renting is that the government will protect a delinquent rentoid for over a year while he completely destroys the place, at least where I live

>>57292696
Of course you're a faggot

>>57292687
>Have you ever taken an IQ test, anon?
He needs to take one designed for apes. Communism and Fascism are nothing alike.

>>57292661
>Making hybrids
They're still not beating Toyota.
>So you're a brown asshole?
It didn't start getting brown until long after I left. My great grandmother ranted about the Mexicans and blacks a lot before she died.

broke niggas...

>>57292596
LFG

>>57292707
Fascism is kind of a meaningless word that people usually use to mean "powerful government I don't like" except nationalists who use it to mean something closer to nationalism but want to sound edgy.
I wish people would quit using it.

>>57292709
good point. make sure you don't rent to single moms, blacks or hispanics and you can minimize this risk.

personally i go the REIT route. even if you have perfect renters you still have to keep up with maintenance and renters leaving/time to put the house back on the market for showings.

>>57292746
People are starting to realize the US is just another Mexico and not a former British colony anymore.
It used to be almost as easy to go to Brazil as it was Canada.

>>57292755
>Fascism is kind of a meaningless word
Most people using it don't know what it means. They probably do not know that they're living in a Fascist system either.

>>57292722
They are both totalitarian when put to practice and control the people very much in the same way

>>57292746
amusing that the USA refuses to do similar gatekeeping for mexicans flooding the south border

>>57292596
GOLDILOCKS. MORTGAGE DEFAULTS ARE RACIST. SMALL BUSINESS BOOMIN IN AMERICA. URANIUM

>>57292774
Typically there is a strong nationalist element to fascism though. I don't think you can really call the current US fascist since it's viciously anti-nationalist. It's just late stage democracy with a lot of communist influence.

>>57292779
One very insignificant difference that you forgot to mention, in Fascism you have private property.

>>57292596
>$166/night
The fuck? That's motel 6 tier

>>57290807
>can't trade tomorrow because some useless dead negroid is holding up modern society again

>>57292746
How would they even enforce that? A bank statement? Paystub? Entering Brazil with 2K cash is a giant red target to get mugged.

>>57292791
Yes, I was only pointing out the way in which they are similar.

>>57292790
I should have been clearer. The USA has adopted the only Fascist economic model, a merger between the State and the Corporate sector. I guess if Drumpf wins then you can call it proper Fascism like the neoliberals are.

>>57292774
>people don't know what fascism means
>America is fascist
stop posting coal you retard

>>57292801
>A bank statement?
Yes.
They don't really authenticate it but starting off relationships by committing fraud is usually a bad idea, especially when it's a relationship with a government for the country your entering.

>>57292801
I wouldn't be surprised if there was a way for them to check your credit limit on your cards. I know the bank can see what I owe on my card when they do a credit check at a minimum.

>>57292810
>The USA has adopted the only Fascist economic model
Meh.
What do you want instead? The communist economic model? Somalia?

>>57292800
Nigger worship is the source of our great nation's strength and economic dominance. Think about it. Our gods are right here in the flesh, any other nation would become 10x more productive if they were directly serving their almighty dieties and reaping the spiritual rewards from doing so. Just be thankful and kneel the entire day, and know the post-mlk pump on Tuesday resultant from the galvanized faith will have been worth it.

>>57292816
Kek. Ok buddy keep paying taxes to subsidise government lobbyists like in the chip business agriculture, renewable bullcrap etc... Did you know the USA governments spends more as % of GDP than the Communist China government? How can a centrally planned economy spend less money as % of GDP than a decentralized economy? Really makes you think right? Or maybe not...

>>57292840
America is shit. It isn't fascist. If it was fascist it wouldn't be shit.

>>57292611
>I'm not surprised truth comes from a maxi
Even mainstream hack economists readily admit large cap equity premium has risen since '71

>>57292832
No I'd prefer a free market capitalistic system. not crony capitalism where I'm forced to pay large taxes to subsidise parasites and their corporate friends..

>>57292845
You're so ignorant it's not even funny...

>>57292745
>My great grandmother ranted about the Mexicans and blacks a lot before she died.
You should have stood up for your dad.
>Toyota, made in Ohio.
If we're gonna go full robotic builders, then just buy TSLA.
>>57292774
The Gentile version was openly nationalist/racist. Be clear, the US was when it instituted all the systems of fascism. EVERYONE was talking about Eugenics as the savior of humanity. We still don't talk about Planned Parenthood, the sterilization of natives and the indigent, or half a dozen "experiments" operated on US populations.

The fascists still exist, they're just being ousted by the talmudists who were actually the reason that the racialist side of fascism was so heavily promoted in the first place. Fascists fatal flaw is that they themselves are expendable in their own system, as purity spiral is never ending, and % chasing doesn't care that you started it.

>>57292836
Elon's my current hero, even tho he's been naughty with the penis use.

>>57292853
it's not so much that taxes are good in america, just that taxes everywhere else (especially Europe) are so horrendously worse that we flourish, and/or wages are so nonexistent (china) that the people languish with multi-generational wealth needed to buy a house and mortgages being put down on houses which don't even exist yet. America isn't perfect by a long stretch, but good god everywhere else is so bad it looks great in comparison, that's why everyone flocks here. strong IP laws, strong market, high wages, etc.

>>57292861
>as purity spiral is never ending, and % chasing doesn't care that you started it.
This is why nationalism is superior. You don't justify preferring your own people, you take that as an axiom and work from there.

>>57292871
I agree. I'm not anti USA, but it's going in the wrong direction that's for sure. Every year the economy gets more centrally planned, and that's not good for the average American.

>>57292871
IMO the taxes/legal structure aren't as meaningful as the demographics.
America had a lot of young White educated workers when nowhere else really did.

>>57292665
>xmrdullard can only see what he sees and not that which he does not see
The only intrinsic value anything has is itself. 1 BTC = 1 BTC, 1 Au oz = 1 Au oz, 1 AAPL = 1 AAPL and so on. An ounce of Au buys a ton of wheat now, but if a meteor hits the earth and decimates wheat production will it still buy a ton of wheat? Of course not. Ergo, the value is extrinsic not intrinsic, gold derives it's value from demand for Store of Value, same as BTC, same as the SoV premium of an AAPL share.
>b-but equities hold le intrinsic value!
AAPL trades at 30 pe, 2/3rds of AAPL's value is from SoV demand. Extrinsic not intrinsic.

>>57292915
1 BTC = 1 Model 3

>>57292903
That may be the catalyst, but the brain drain effect compounds our dominance though far into the present and future. Other countries give free education to high skilled laborers then they leave their shit holes to come here and live better and the overtaxed population training these workers benefits naught from subsidizing their schooling. I would not be surprised if the US equity market reaches 80% of the world's share before it starts to decline in a big way.

Free college is cool, it's a great investment on human capital but ONLY WHEN that human capital actually stays in that country. It's ironic the USA has no free college since it's the country you're most likely to see the full return on that investment if you had it, but then again it's also a part of why it's appealing to migrate to... less taxes!

>>57292915
Gold does have utility as a non-corroding conductor. Apple shares entitle you to ownership in a small fraction of the company (behind bond holders of course) so these things can be directly transformed into other things and have some intrinsic value.
Bitcoin's only value is the ability to write some transactions to the blockchain (which is not nothing but arguably not as meaningful.)

>>57292915
Meds brother... ASAP! AAPL isn't a store of value it's a business and if it does well it compounds your money if it doesn't do well It loses marketcapitalization and can go bankrupt. Gold on the other hand is a store of value because it's not a liability on any balance sheet and cannot become worthless.

>>57292960
>US equity market reaches 80% of the world's share before it starts to decline in a big way.
What the fuck are you smoking...

>>57292976
>cannot become worthless
All it would take is a meteor made of gold to crash into Nevada and its over for goldfags kek

>>57292960
>leave their shit holes
Most places are really only shitholes because of the brown people that live there. I wouldn't call Eastern European countries shitholes, they just have lower GDP than average, that's different.
> live better
That's going away. We're just "Mexico plus tip" now. The moment everyone else figures that out (and if you talk to foreigners in eg South Asia you'll notice they're finding out faster than you would think) that trend will reverse hard.

>>57293008
All it would take for you is pic rel and it would be unequivocally over for you.

>>57292976
>AAPL isn't a store of value it's a business
Lol no it isn't. It's a shitcoin that chinese factories use to sell you overpriced crap.

>>57292960
>. Other countries give free education to high skilled laborers then they leave their shit holes to come here
Pretty much the opposite in places like Stanford and Berkely, and often in MIT and others. They come here then go home, and the people who are given residence, defacto or legally, are the lowest skilled, lawn-care and shitty "builders," or housekeepers who don't know why you can't put certain chemicals with the metals, or why you have to sanitize things like bed sheets.

We've got thousands of well built hotels from the 1970-1990 when they were still being built by white men to last 100 years, now owned and operated by jeets who can't even clean the fucking HVAC screens, let alone get rid of the fucking rodents. Ignorant fuckers got their staff walking around with full bag and blocked up tube vaccums, leaving filthy turn your feet black floors.
Because their cousin who used to drive a rickshaw is now doing housekeeping, and it's easy money.

>>57292858
That's a mirror

>>57293027
>It's a shitcoin that chinese factories use to sell you overpriced crap.
Not me never used an AAPL product never will.

>>57293030
Those places are fucking disgusting.
I just sleep in my car now, I don't fucking care if it's illegal.

>>57293030
>rodents
Some problems are so simple to solve. I live in a neighborhood with a lot of feral cats in it, my house had a field mouse problem, I created a doorway for the cats to come and go into my basement/garage, within a few months the problem was completely solved. Haven't seen a mouse nor a single dropping in years. Jeets just don't use their brains, all non-whites are a waste of money and emerging markets are "Brazil superpower by 2020" tier schizophrenia.

CRISPER THERAPUTICS AND CITI BANK BROS WE ARE WAGMI

>>57293063
They're often literally the best hotels in each area, maybe not by age, but by location and build type.
I stayed in one the other day that was built with local stone. Jeet comes in with a color scheme straight out of Hydrabad, matches nothing of the local floura nor the sky on 99% of the days. Puts neon blue and yellow colors next to grey and red limestones holding fossils worth thousands of dollars in truck sized limestone fireplace. And then hires mexicans who don't understand basic hygiene, and let every freezer in every room turn into blocks of solid ice, and then leaves for months at a time and complains that staff and city isn't doing enough to promote the place.
Short WH in about a decade, when the failure to upkeep really shows up on those poor underserviced masterpieces.
>>57293103
>hotels with wandering furballs
I have no doubt in my mind that made sense to a pajeet.

>>57292845
based

>>57293114
Well not for hotels no, you need to accommodate people with shitty immune systems who evolution should have already killed, but for my use case it worked because i don't let people with allergies into my garbage nest.

>>57293138
>what are parasites
>what is rabies?
there's just so many reasons to not let animals into public places, let alone a hotel.
It's so sad. They're irresponsible and they think they're clever. And (((we're))) letting them think they're clever, handing them millions in loans and looking the other way when they import illegals to work for a room.

>>57292973
Price is a product of aggregate demand, industrial demand for Au is microscopic, if store of value demand for the boomer rock disappeared overnight it would struggle to maintain $100/oz, likewise, if SoV demand for large cap equities disappeared they would also crash in price.

>Bitcoin's only value is the ability to write some transactions to the blockchain
Functional demand is DETRIMENTAL to a Store of Value, price is a product of aggregate demand, a SoV having functional use means part of the price (proportional to it's functional demand) will be from functional demand, forcing buyers of Store of Value to pay a functional premium and subjecting them to the risk the functional demand will fall, causing real terms fall in value independent of demand for SoV. This can be seen in platinum, which on paper appears a fine SoV, but it's high functional demand dominates it's price rendering it unusable as such.
>>57292976
And yet it trades at earnings ratios well above it's rational enterprise value given it's growth rate, almost like there's substantial demand for AAPL beyond it's functional value

>>57290821
>>57290832
>>57290920
>>57291977
>>57290943
>>57291995
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>>57293171
>And yet it trades at earnings ratios well above it's rational enterprise value given it's growth rate, almost like there's substantial demand for AAPL beyond it's functional value
What is a bubble....

if you think p/e ratios in stagnant non-white shitholes are remotely comparable to ones in the Nexus of Civilization you've been making bad trades for over 100 years.

>>57293213
USA P/E has been bellow 10 numerous times. Stop coping you're buying overvalued stock.

>>57293171
> And yet it trades at earnings ratios well above it's rational enterprise value given it's growth rate
Aah I see, so you know what AAPL is actually worth and the market is wrong

>>57293253
you think communism and fascism are different things

>>57293262
A small difference Fascism allows private property Communism doesn't. I wouldn't expect you to know that though.

>>57293270
>private property*
99 year lease, or buying it from an institution every 30 years on taxes.

>>57293114
>They're often literally the best hotels in each area, maybe not by age, but by location and build type.
At least DC isn't like that which is where I usually need a hotel.

>>57293304
You're leasing your property from the government (you pay property taxes annually).

>>57293332
Post 19th century in much of the US, yes. But it's not some guarantee. In fact, it's because of the lie of specialization in justice that budgets look as big as they are.

Got a bunch of (((asian))) faggots who think in big-man and government is someone else's job theory who can't help but teach that. Plus it plays into the evacation of the US being created by the unFED on behalf of talmudists. Between the tredmill of inflation currency and taxation, the (((banks))) can function to filter any problems to (((them))) with a bit of uncreative but well "funded" mimicry.
Speaking of, did I mention someone should step in and save Big Lots from Ollies?

>>57291495
>he was a car guy
>red flag

you know what.
all of those reasons are rather shallow and would fit perfectly into an episode of seinfeld

>>57293364
Huhn, both places specialize in close-out sales. Both places created by (((merchandizers))).
Both dependent on the misfortune or debt closures of other productive businesses.

Big Lots, no longer capable of out-bidding Ollies, being left with shitty Chink toys for too much and the occasional food crate.
Ollies now competing with the Bezos Return Outlets.
Aside such "geniuses" as Ichan, the race to the bottom (((line))).

>>57291995
>It doesn't have to be. The unFED has the power to cut rates and not QE.
Imagine the kvetching.

>>57290832
the stocks are still cheap compared to the spot price. uranium stocks still have tons of room to run. Risk on in the broad market, energy market stabilizing, and the spot price could continue to climb. all positive tailwinds

>>57293213
>stagnant non-white shitholes
Hrm, you might be on to something...

>>57293487
Fission is on borrowed time fusion bulls are coming

Getting a jump on my taxes. Just gotta wait till the banks and brokerage punt out the 1099's then I can file it. Everything else is good to go. Right now it looks like I'm getting another fat refund even larger than last year's. YAY!!

>>57293511
Checked but i still think the growing demographics crisis in the US is still less of a problem than corrupt governments and overall declining population elsewhere. Give it 50 more years and we'll be african aztec india but for now soak in the gains.

>>57293262
They're radically different things. Communism is a democratic idea (with the end goal being global democracy.)

>>57293527
It only took 40 years for California to implode and it was going much more slowly than the country is now.

>>57293535
>more slowly
doubt, it's right there on the coast, the literal ground zero for poos and bugs and the tech gold rush. Appalachia will still be majority white in 40 years for example.

>>57293527
They already turned most major US cities lawless PoC-friendly hellholes. Boeing's airplanes are falling out of the sky because third worlders (Americans) can't into quality control.

Also Commiefornia lost the plot with the gibs and haven for illegals and big money and lax laws of course the dregs of society would flock there. any state that doesn't bend over backwards for illegals and homeless people won't decay nearly as fast. Browns also hate sparse population they need to feel like isopods crammed against each other under a rock it's part of their evolution. Cities except portland are probably done but that's not necessarily a bad thing, I think the USA might even end up laying down a blueprint for how to organize civilization which surpasses cities in throughput and vastly in comfort and fulfillment and most importantly birth rates by not making hundreds of millions of people feel like they're living in a Gaza strip.

How do you guys track dividends? I don’t want to pay for a tracker but I’d like to track the progression of my Roth IRA divvys. Picrel is my method

>>57293523
It'll be another month before your brokerage hands out that 1099-B. They wait until at least February so that any potential wash sales are guaranteed to have settled and they have time to run their own internal checks/audits, even if you personally made no trades in December or realized no losses.

>>57293581
>*cope intensifies*
Enjoy your 65% income tax to pay for all those stunning and brave welfare recipients.

>>57293597
>65% income tax
that's as retardedly bearish as my fantasy about cities being replaced and surpassed is retardedly bullish.

>>57293581
bla bla bla bla
blow it out your ass
this is what happens when you neglect public education
USA is turning into medieval europe

>>57293542
Not after (BAsEd!1!) GREg ABboT sends truckloads to each of those places.
Instead of just shooting them.
at risk of repeating myself, SWBI, DOW and BOSS, only this time don't let em get their man in. Oh, US aircraft carriers captained by (((a man)))? Largest single percentage of Congress by non-Christian faith?
>>57293627
More like modern day Indonesia.

gn burgers
see you when the market opens tomorrow

>>57293542
>Appalachia will still be majority white in 40 years
Rural CA is still majority White AFAIK.

If they raise taxes that much everyone will leave and nobody will be left to take care of the niggers. Use your brain.

>>57293624
They're importing millions of them because they're easily controlled votes, and you're going to pay to house and feed them all.

>>57293676
Who are you replying to?
>If they raise taxes that much everyone will leave and nobody will be left to take care of the niggers.
That the entire fucking point. They're speedrunning civilizational collapse.

I should also note that Q4 estimates are due this tuesday, the 16th. While your brokerage will not formally provide you with realized P/L info, you can easily run your own transactions report through built in systems on most brokerages to determine your expected tax impact with high precision. The penalty for underpayment is currently 8%. Up to you whether its worth effectively borrowing a margin loan from the federal government at that price. If your state collects income tax as well, they may enforce harsher penalties on underpayment.

>>57293692
>They're speedrunning civilizational collapse.
For what purpose?

>>57293711
Nigga, have you read 1984?

>>57293194
>2 more weeks!
Bobo swerve
>>57293257
Do keep up. The price is a product of aggregate demand, which includes demand for AAPL as a store of value. AAPL will not fall to 10 PE (or whatever) without this SoV demand going elsewhere, which will definitely not be either functional commodities nor emerging markets as these meet SoV demand poorly.

So are they cutting rates this month or what?

>>57293721
How do you think the federal govt is going to control civilization if they lose credibility to the point the states balkanize, that's what's going to happen before a systemic, total collapse is even on the table.
>muh immigrant votes
doesn't matter when the actualization of governmental policy is also dependent fully on the competency of the non-white hoards. America is too big and untamed for a plan like this to really work. Things will correct, they always have and always do.

>>57293253
Only post '71 is meaningful data

>>57293761
>So are they cutting rates this month or what?

>>57293774

>>57293774
In that case the average is ~20, if we've been overvalued for over 50 years i don't think you can call it a bubble anymore.

>>57293512
maybe in 10 15 years it'll be achievable. then it has to actually be permitted and built....this is a moot point

>>57293793
he has a point, 1971 marks a complete paradigm shift in the US economy after all.

>>57293817
I could argue that 2020 did the same.

>>57293762
You FUCKING RETARD. In 1984 they explicitly discuss how the only thing they care about is power over other people, even it makes the lives of the people in power worse and weakens the state over the long run. We can be living in mud huts, and as long as they have absolute power, they still accomplished their objective.

>>57293845
I moreso see it as a strong flexing of the paradigm established 50 years prior. "Look at us, we can triple the money supply!"

>>57293855
"they" won't have any power because lemmings flock to stability and that's something the govt is failing more and more. US will balkanize and not give a fuck about whoever wanted to be big brother in the capitol whose brain is probably splattered on a stone pillar. then jews will leave the nation that's been destroyed to find a new one to destroy, as always.

>>57293757
> includes demand for AAPL as a store of value
People buying stocks are not seeking a store of value, they are taking risks that could be rewarded with returns. Or maybe not and the stock goes down or even to zero. This can happen to AAPL and any other stock. ”Store of value” is not part of the equation here.

>Using free bets and discounts on sports brokers to make money to buy stocks

Does this also work in the US? I hear you can even bet in elections and global events on bets done for shits and giggles.

>>57293793
Just the reality that using pre-funny money era stats will corrupt your analysis

>>57293891
>people save in equities not because they seek Store of Value but because they're seeking risk premium
No.

>>57293656
gn

>>57293721
>>57293855
1984 is retarded when you dig into what Orwell actually meant and read some of his other books.
He thought conservatives (actual hard core ones not the fake party named after them) would take over Britain. He thinks the answer to this is more liberalism.

So how come no one discussed the john rocker homeless killings of 2021

>>57294028
Too soon.

>>57293891
trillions of dollars of american’s paychecks goes into the stock market every year in the form of retirement savings. they are not doing it to make a risky, entrepreneurial investment. they are doing it because they can’t save their money in dollars or it will become worthless. even government bonds often pay negative real interest when accounting for inflation.

>>57294028
who cares? the homeless population could die off overnight and the world would be better for it.

ALRIGHT MOTHERFUCKERS

After a long hiatus I am back(I know you don't care)

Looking to get a feel for the markets again. Does this screenshot reflect the current state of things? What else should I be considering?

>>57290807
Bought an onahole today because my gf and I broke up and she put a stop to us hooking up even though we're broken up. Real shame, but gives me some time to get my act together anyways and spend less on women and more on stonks

>>57294084
The vast majority of market movement is still caused by traders though, not boomer 401k inflows. It's not like everyone is going to retire at once, and when one does they will and then proceed to dump 4% of their portfolio per year, it's completely negligible noise as far as the market is concerned. Is there a tipping point? I dunno, but as long as the market keeps performing it's not a bad place to allocate your fiat.

stock market is closed on the weekend, faggots.

>>57294110
this picture so scary :(

>>57294128
>>57294110
If you cross reference these 3 images what is the golden goose lads?

What else to consider?

>>57294128
>this picture so scary :(
Probably because there's no argument and very little meaning to go along with it.

>>57294150
To be fair I'm being extremely open ended for the sake of anybody willing to contribute, not because of the laziness you perceive.

>>57294137
Polish manufacturing.

>>57294158
I don't mind laziness. I just got back from camping and spent all day jerking off.
What I mind is presenting ideas without an argument. That's right next to lying.

>>57294118
>trillions of dollars don't move the markets
False. Traders are the noise, inflows-outflows control the market

>>57294128
China's fiscal policy and IP "laws" are still stifling innovation and growth, now their population is decreasing too which won't start to happen in the US for another half a century. China has a hard road of recovery ahead and it needs to start actually taking steps to reach it. At least they have a chance to, unlike Japan which is just an irrelevant little island with no resources that forever lost relevancy in the single field it ever had any chance of being relevant in compared to massive superpowers (innovation).

>>57294161
40% Tech
30% Healthcare
10% Utilities
10% Materials
10% Consumer Staples

Too much tech for a recession you think? To me, tech will continue to defy historical notions.

I have by FAR the most confidence in healthcare, people in shitty health is a trend that will... uh... continue.. until the species dies off.

All she does is lie to me. All she does is lie to me. All she does is lie to me. All she does is manipulate me. All she does is manipulate me. I'm getting drunk boys.

>>57293711
>>57293721
>>57293692
theyre trying to do judge dredd. collapsed things so badly to get and justify absolute dictatorship powers.

>>57294199
As of the end of 2023 there are few if any actual public tech companies in the US. Most are becoming hold companies.
The result will probably defy some notions.

>futures

>>57294168
Hey you dumbfuck Fidelity made the image not me, I am making no ideas or arguments about it. I posted it quite specifically for people to analyze it however they wish. I FULLY disagree with pointing people in any direction for this, it is up to them to choose the direction that they will take the image. What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>57294197
U.S. birthrate is literally 0 right now anon, but I do agree China will have to start considering American tier global aggression to continue their economy.

>>57294219
The technological integration in our society is so pervasive though, limited only by the materials that we can pull from the ground.

Recent investment

>>57294236
>>57294219
>>57294199
The materials sector as a proxy for IT sector growth, thoughts?

It's a shame the whole school girl uniform thing never really took off here in America aside from the church schools.

>>57294199
>shitty health is a trend that will... uh... continue.. until the species dies off.
Just call it dysgenics, that's what it is. And it's not all race-mixing, as technology evolves we will reach a point where stuff happens like babies being born with defective hearts who will get cybernetic implants and become completely reliant on technology to survive for their entire lives, creating massive profits for healthcare and spreading their degraded genes more and more until everybody is born needing half their body replaced by machines just to function because we've devolved to the point everyone is born as a fucking thalidomide baby.

Betting on healthcare is betting on the genetic degeneration of the species slowly caused by creature comforts and life-saving medical technology. It's a fairly safe bet in the long run, but I'd argue there is a real risk of being completely disrupted by the normalization of eugenics and manually editing defects out of future generations so that we're all born with no congenital defects whatsoever. That would be calamitous to the industry, but not likely to happen in our lifetimes either. The real issue with healthcare is that its performance is just surpassed by other industries because bear markets and recessions don't last very long so their periods of outperformance are just noise to the fact you're basically getting bond yields in the long run.

>>57294236
Almost none of those companies actually work on any of that and the few that do dedicate a very tiny portion of their business to it because actual production is highly competitive.
Apple could disappear tomorrow and people would get pissed because they have to flip a switch in their text message settings.

>>57294265
Interesting. When you drive through the American midwest/south, you start to feel like healthcare will literally have to become half of the economy at some point.

>>57294225
>U.S. birthrate is literally 0 right now anon
Notice i said population growth, not birth rate. Important difference. We'll be dropping millions of immigrants into this shithole to drive economic growth for decades to come yet. China will continue being left behind because a nationalistic mindset doesn't really matter when you're servile bugs who can't do anything but copy homework.

>>57294274
I don't see how this is a counterpoint

>>57294299
>We're going to compete with Mexico at being Mexico but with a 100% premium and more jews
Bold strategy.

>>57294299
Sounds like you just want to call game and run the clock out anon

>>57294301
They don't matter and when they can't maintain the software they're responsible for their costumers will all drop them like a rock. We're already starting to see it.

>>57294316
I think you rather strongly misread my original post

>>57294110

>>57294265
>babies being born with defective hearts who will get cybernetic implants and become completely reliant on technology to survive for their entire lives
I'm not saying that your general healthcare thesis is wrong, but I think that dna/gene editing will become commonplace long before we have to resort to cybernetics to keep dysgenics at bay.

>>57294307
yep i don't care in the long run lol i just want to get my gains and die comfortably. Imagine having a child knowing it will be left to navigate this hellscape. Nah.

>>57294254
i dont think $20 whiskey is going to be a good investment but i did have the chance to buy into a couple barrels of some whiskey. minimum was 10k. whiskey investing is a big business and only going to get bigger.

>>57294352
I know right my friends are having kids and I'm just thinking "man, this place will get noticeably worse literally by the year"

>>57294351
have you heard about investing into cardboard?

>>57294364
Very nice of them to help prop up my retirement.

>>57294348
Any mistakes from gene editing will probably have to be solved cybernetically. It wont be perfect every time they try it.

>>57294352
>Imagine having a child knowing it will be left to navigate this hellscape
One could argue that this mentality is a type of eugenics or darwinism at play, only you're doing it willingly. A defective gene, lacking the will to reproduce, willingly removing itself from the genepool. In this context, the reason for doing so doesn't matter.

>>57294351
Do shots with me and say that.

>>57294371
kek

>>57294379
Have you ever observed the life cycles of other creatures? Ever thought it was rather pointless of them? Humans are quite full of themselves.

>>57294352
>Imagine having a child knowing it will be left to navigate this hellscape. Nah.
Touch grass.

>>57294379
Perhaps so, but I think in the wake of the mouse utopia experiment it could also be attributed to society sabotaging the mechanisms that drive reproduction fundamentally. It's not really eugenics when every mouse in the experiment stopped breeding and died. That's not filtering, that's just extinction.

>>57294352
This. Not like I have a gf to have them with but it doesn’t seem wise to have kids today.

>>57294403
Go outside yourself bro lmfao I already dipped out of the south it was absolutely irredeemable I'm in Colorado now and it's awesome but obviously won't be forever

>>57290890
This greatly upsets me.

>>57293511
Canada Brampton

Would you let her manage your money /smg/?

>>57290890
A well managed economy just means a permanent stasis of pre-recession doesn't it? I just make no fucking money when people do their jobs right? Fuck.

>>57294394
>Ever thought it was rather pointless of them
Ofcourse, it doesn't take a genius to fall into nihilistic tendencies. In fact, it's a rather comfortable position - ridding yourself of the struggle, retreating to some dark room with no responsibilities.
The kind of shit that would make Nietzsche turn in his grave. You either rise above it, or is crushed by it.

>>57294416
True this. You don't need kids to pass on your assets anymore. A will and/or a trust works just as good. My brother and his wife, well they're actively planning for them. It seems twins runs on her side of the family. Uh well I'm a horny pervert so if going by my let's say "load blowing" habits over the years is any guide hell they'll have least 4 kids easy. My sister is another story; she says she don't want any. I don't want any either.

>>57294408
>That's not filtering, that's just extinction.
I disagree. If anything it proves that those mice were unfit for such an environment or scenario. Tough luck, darwinism wins again.

>>57294465
There is no nihilism here, rather a lack of fear for the reality of the situation that the human opinion is just a hallucination to keep us constantly bothered by nonsense.

>>57294478
the "environment" was comfort. They had all their needs met, they simply chose to stop breeding for no evident reason. That reason is something that probably extends to us as well and we still don't really get it but maybe we will before it's too late.
This is why birth rates are booming in shit holes, but declining in developed nations.

>>57294480
Nihilism can be ascribed to other matters than morality. In your case, it is textbook nihilism.

>>57294491
So were the mice nihilistic? Wrestling with the morality of their own breeding? Use your brain. The fact many of us simply do not feel the urge to breed goes deeper into monkeybrain tendencies than we fully understand yet.

Oilbros we're gonna have a slurpy time. My slurp starts at $71.80, we're so close.

>>57294491
You don't know what you're talking about. Nihilism requires a lack of assessment, because assessment in any case immediately implies action. To be nihilistic is to be dormant. There are no nihilists analyzing anything in earnest. That's not how it works. Nihilism is empty space.

>>57294490
>they simply chose to stop breeding for no evident reason
Correct, so they were unfit to survive, just like many people are today. The fact that it's not uncommon for focused, high net worth individuals to have large families is a sign of a filter at continuous play.

>>57294514
I still believe the way we justify our lack of the desire to reproduce with things like "Well look at this occupied hell hole they'd have to exist in." is simply a rationalized cope for an underlying evolutionary mechanism that has nothing to do with rationality or high intelligence. Without a way to properly describe that though, yeah, I'm personally following your same narrative.

>>57294537
>dildo world
>dont you wish you were evolutionarily fit for dildo world?!

Some things are better not adapting to.

>>57290807
Calls or puts for Tuesday?

I'll get wasted and nut in your sister. Theorize that.

>>57294554
It is definitely true that we desire what we are able to desire, I've experienced this lots in my life. I am aware of this, and I don't at all think that's what's going on at least wholly. Of course many do make this choice specifically for this reason, but for many this does NOT factor into their reasoning at all.

>>57294478
I think it’s mentally harder to consciously opt out of child making, it’s what most people fall back on usually out of fear of missing out. As a man I can always opt in, but I can’t reverse the decision once it’s done. Assessing long term decisions in light of the current context of the world does not equate Darwinism. And what good is survival of the fittest anyways? Dumb people have way more children than opposite. It’s literally the most natural inclination to yield to. Any idiot can have a child, few actually take a good hard look at themselves before they assume that responsibility. Darwinians are so simple brained

>>57294605
It really shouldn't be ignored that the more intelligent one becomes, the less of the world they choose to indulge in.

>>57294475
Sounds like you and your sister should get together

I was dry humping this chicks car making it rock side to side. Telling my boy that I would plow that skank. She comes out of the bar and walks up behind me while this is going on. Says wtf. Say I want to plow you not your civic. She takes me home. I fucked her like a whore. Who knows where my cum is. Wake up and leave. Don't know the neighborhood or her name. Friday night.

>>57294645
Highlight of your life, her 53rd time in the last 6 months

>>57294605
>Assessing long term decisions in light of the current context of the world does not equate Darwinism
But it does. If your genes can't cope with the modern onslaught of information or events, which is enough to engage panda levels of non-reproduction then you are by definition unfit.
>Dumb people have way more children than opposite
Sure, a small subset of smart people do to. Wouldn't that make them before refined in the end?

Life finds a way.
Sent from the midwest.

>>57294681
Just admit that you firmly believe that ooga boogas are the most evolutionarily fit version of human

>>57294681
My choice is a conscious selection. Childlessness is not only something happens to people, for some it’s a choice. What happens to your logic men I decide to have child in five years because I have changed my mind? Are my genes suddenly fit for survival again? Your case is redundant but I expect nothing else from someone touting Nietzsche like a teenager who just discovered his philosophy

>>57294681
man i read this like 6 times and i still don't fully understand what you're saying, maybe I am unfit after all.

>futures

>>57294735
He has committed to his viewpoint and will refuse to consider any other point so he resorts to rhetorical obfuscation. It’s the same every time with these dogmatic lowlives

>>57294756
>>futures

Top kek, boeing can't just do shit. Too many indians and gays
First the auto industry
Now the aero industry will follow

>>57294782
new thread
>>57294782

I think you guys are fags. Why are you worried so much? Just because your dick ain't plastering pussy, don't mean the rest of us ain't.

>>57294774
>US tech is a good investment though

>>57294790
Kinda proving the point >>57294720

>>57294447
No

>>57294554
>>57294504
i wouldn't call it monkeybrain, more collective subconscious. it is adaptive but i believe higher order. great global civilizations have existed before and experience of those who lived slow catastrophic decay (present) generates deeper understanding (albeit obscure) of our place, serving as springboard for the next. an atonement function for debauchery, dysgenics, nihilism, and false idolatry

>>57292596
holy fuck
>>57293711
picrel