/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>57241771
you have to wait for the EU fud to settle and we are in a depression so you have to account for that too
crypto will be totally rekt if not for the BTC ETF

>>57241771
very good coin ser much moneys will come to you

>>57241779
What does the devs getting a share of every block have to do with the EU. Zioncash is worthless because it isn't private enough, if the devs disagreed they wouldn't be dumping on you.

>>57241786
now end of january all privacy by default coin are banned in the eu

>>57241793
What? Source?

>>57241808
use a search engine

XMR or DERO is better

>>57241820
XMR, but it will also dump and likely will be desisted

>>57241816
>Binance has changed its plans to delist privacy coins in several European countries
This is from June 2023. Nothing about another ban.

>>57241848
https://www.coinspeaker.com/guides/mica-eus-comprehensive-crypto-regulation-explained/
effective ban

>>57241793
>zCash isn't private enough for governments to consider a thread
Zioncash holders are the most retarded cucks in crypto.

>>57241871
you are right, zcash is very iffy, but regardless it is private by default and must be delisted from CEXs in EU

>>57241861
Absolutely nothing in that page reveals a ban on privacy coins, effective or otherwise.

>>57241876
You keep repeating this shit but cannot provide a single source. The MiCA does NOT compel CEXes to delist privacy coins. It just doesn't.

>>57241886
you are really low IQ
in addition to that, there is a new EU law in effect that state that any unexplained wealth can be confiscated

so, you can't cash out

>>57241891
https://forum.firo.org/t/firo-private-transactions-balancing-with-mica-regulations/3010

this action taken by the zcoin pathetic retards regarding the non existent existent mica regulation

>>57241893
>new EU law in effect that state that any unexplained wealth can be confiscated
That law has always existed, it's nothing "new".

I accept your admission that you're incapable of providing a single source to back up your claims.

>>57241893
Of all the people you could demorilise you choose Ztrash holders? They are already broken. Reevaluate your life.

>>57241905
You are vax maxed aren't you?

>>57241903
>delistings in several regions particularly in Europe because of new MICA regulations which prohibit the listing of cryptocurrencies that have inbuilt anonymization features.
I can buy ZEC on fucking Coinbase, what the fuck are you mongoloids about?

>>57241916
end of January 2024, in just two weeks
EU wide ban on privacy by default cone on CEX will be in effect

Yeah I wish the coin wasn’t so gay too, ok? Back when it first released it was “BTC 2.0”. The tech is objectively superior to XMR (and no don’t (you) me regarding this) but everything else about the project aside from the logo is complete dogshit. $20/ZEC still seems like a steal though, I could see it hitting $200 on some good news pump.

It’s either this or BCH. I can’t get behind BTC or XMR. The former because of the block size wars and the latter cuz FluffyPony is just too gross for me and he scam pumped everyone.

>>57241928
zcash has done everything wrong
it is useless

>>57241928
>The tech is objectively superior to XMR
It can be shut down for about $30 per day.
https://www.theblock.co/post/175259/someone-is-clogging-up-the-zcash-blockchain-with-a-spam-attack

>>57241771
By far the worst performing legacy alt. You don't need to follow the Twitter drama between the dev team and the holders to see that this thing is on its way to extinction. The technology itself is revolutionary but unsurprising, executed extremely poorly on the PR front.

The perfect coin imo would be ZEC’s tech and logo with XMR’s dev structure and community. I like that ZEC is basically a DEX between an XMR-like coin and a BTC-like coin.

I don’t like that XMR has
>tail emissions (simply not good meme material for price action, people love the ‘hard cap’ of BTC)
>inferior anonymity set and privacy tech
> the lowest IQ posters on this board, ugly waifu, logo and name

I’ve heard bad things about its usability as well but haven’t tested this myself.

>>57241950
zcash has trusted setup, it is useless

>>57241922
>just two weeks
It came to you in a dream?

>>57241966
are you fucking retarded, read the mica document
or just wait 2 week to rope

>>57241928
Just buy bch. Weird accumulation happening. Last week 10 million dollar buy wall on coinbase for 250 was eaten up. Less and less on exchanges. Btc narrative falling apart. Flipping could happen (5% chance) if btc keeps shitting the bed and they need a fork, people will realize btc is fed coin and go back to the GO chain

>>57241950
This is what I feel as well. Unless they can rapidly pivot and get an XMR style grassroots thing going it’s dead. Which is unfortunate as I really liked a lot of things about it.

>>57241970
Doesn't say anything about banning privacy coins in the EU at the end of January, faggot. Stop making shit up.

>>57241982
you cannot buy them of exchanges and you can't cash out
so it is a ban

>>57241975
GO chain? Anyway, I fear if BTC is ever flipped crypto is doomed as then any other crypto that takes its place is even more likely to eventually suffer the same fate. Leaving crypto an endless game of musical chairs. This contradicts my BCH knvestment thesis, that people will flock to it due to its rightful claim to the throne and increased usability. Not sure where I stand on it.

But BCH is definitely undervalued. I’m also uncertain as to whether or not it’s on its way out as well though. Price action has been pretty shit, and there’s always the chance BTC upgrades block size and unfucks segwit changes.

>>57241986
It doesn't talk about delisting them either. CB hasn't flagged ZEC, it has added no warnings about an imminent delisting, nothing.

They even warn you when an asset is "experimental" because it might be delisted, but absolutely nothing about entirely delisting ZEC in 20 days.
You're full of shit.

>>57241958
Nice bait (not really), not doing this.

>>57242004
I can't help you
get rekt

20% perpetual premine immediately dumped and squandered by a failed, centralized company.

>>57242010
>boboposts on the cusp of a bullmarket
Retard confirmed.
Enjoy your 47 chromosomes.

>>57241771
>this coin is a corpse rotting before our eyes
>good buy?

NO IT'S NOT A GOOD BUY YOU RETARD

>>57242021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIZJYJWSxP4
watch this zoomer

>>57241903
so the firo guys are cucks like these zcash faggots?

>>57242022
This is what I needed to hear, thank you. Now evaluate BCH and advise please sirs.

Price is very low
>don't buy it!
Love dem biz traders
Gonna buy 50 of those babies rn

I have a soft spot for ZEC as I remember mining in it while laddering on Smogon ten years ago.

>>57241771
you better check out wownero, ~$4mil marketcap, coming to cake wallet in the next few weeks, has over 100k install just on android

https://github.com/cake-tech/cake_wallet/pull/1260

>>57241928
zero knowledge proofs were talked about for bitcoin in ~2012 or even earlier, but it's not appropriate for the base layer, ring signatures are even worse for the base layer.
what killed zcash permanently was zk crypto being added to ethereum. even if zcash had forced privacy the fact that privacy is the only reason it exists makes it an optional privacy coin, just like monero.

why take the risk with a separate coin that's trivial to outright ban or delist than using privacy tech, features, or layers in something like ethereum or even bitcoin?

>>57242110
zk on l2 is not anywhere near as good as on l1. But I see your point, and if it’s good enough then yes maybe it’s an odd niche coin ultimately. ..But $20!? It’s hitting all time lows with a halving coming up. I think it will drop more still, but it’s been around for awhile now. It could easily have some upside here

>>57242110
And source on it “not being appropriate for the base layer”? Or is that just your opinion?

>>57242070
yeah they are faggots too

>>57242158
its cryptographically equivalent. it's worse than $20, just look at zec/btc. even worse than ltc/btc and litecoin is truly useless. privacy is just a feature, a necessary one, but not one anybody is willing to pay for.

>>57242162
any bloat on the base layer means you end up like zcash and monero have, stuck with a huge migration operation as old privacy cryptography needs to upgrade. this has to both maintain privacy as it happens and also not completely cut off old transactions. it's basically equivalent to having two separate blockchains.
coupled with zcash's abysmal support outside of their in-house wallets means most of the modern cryptographic upgades they have aren't supported, only the first iterations.

>>57241987
OG typo. Good point. Might happen but I don't know any other coin the could flip btc medium term. Not even eth.
Bch chart looks like btc end if 2016. I'm predicting 20k bch in a year top. Maybe 150k btc. It will have David and Goliath vibes. Bankers vrs unbanked. All it takes is a little push. The twitter buzz already starting. People hating on btc because it's gay and fake

>>57241820
>>57241771
why not both