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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvcmNyW8giI
https://fortune.com/2023/12/06/blackstone-muddy-waters-mortgage-trust-short-selling-real-estate/
Blackstone's mortgage trust has taken massive losses on the commercial real estate market, leading infamous hedge fund Muddy Waters to short it.

>> No.56919189

they will get bailed out, Jack. in fact, it probably already happened. Goldilocks Soft Landing

>> No.56919201

>>56919175
Could you please explain to me like I’m a retarded what this means for the market as a whole.

>> No.56919411
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>>56919201
Contagion risk the Risk that adverse events affecting one entity are quickly transmitted to other entities that are in some way related as part of broader network. If one of the biggest shadow banks in the USA go do other banks will follow. Think Lehman Brothers and the Big short 2.0

>> No.56919423

>>56919411
nah, they learned from last time and will fix this before it gets bad. They'll slaughter half the population before they let a housing crash happen.

>> No.56919426
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Blackstone?
Never heard of em.

>> No.56919432

>>56919189
Fpbp

Relax, Cornpops in charge.

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>>56919175

The real estate bubble is so big, my country is letting in millions of pajeets and giving 4/5 of them $1200+ a month to keep it from popping and angering the average retarded piece of shit boomer.

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>>56919423
That ,what, you said, the last 20 times!

>> No.56919526

>>56919423
Nigger (((they))) want a collapse. Then (((they))) buy it and rent it to you or some nigger. What a naive faggot you are.

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>>56919526
He does not understand you will own nothing, and be happy.

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>>56919175
Lol. Every time retards try to corner a market they fuck themselves so hard. Why do they keep trying? This literally never works.

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>>56920435
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awoFZaSuko4

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>>56919175
jew hedgies. nah, nothing's going to happen to them, white boi. you on the other hand. oy vey

>> No.56921057

>>56920800
>>56920446
>>56920435
>>56919730
>>56919526
>>56919464
>>56919435
>>56919432
>>56919426
>>56919423
>>56919411
>>56919201
>>56919189
>>56919175
Why do brainwashed economically illiterate retards think comapnies like blackstone are buying up all of the single family homes when in reality the total percentage of single family homes owned by investment firms like these totals 0.2%

Why do insane myths get spread online and everyone believes them?

Call me a shill but I'm not wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6pu9Ixqqxo

>> No.56921245

>>56921057
they don't buy them retard. they're speculators buying up futures. yes, most US banks are not jew-owned, but they are owned in a sense by hedge fund asset managers who dictate their value. US banks are owned by the manure goyims who do all the dirty work seizing houses and denying purchasing power while the kikes suck up all the money literally by insider trading and punching a bunch of numbers as they see fit

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>>56921057
You don't really understand what we are talking about.

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>>56921057
You do know this tread is about commercial not residential. That two defferant aminals, anon.

>> No.56921431

>>56921395
>>56921363
>>56921245
>You do know this tread is about commercial not residential. That two defferant aminals, anon.
Yes I know.
I also know that the residential meme will get posted here so im just being proactive.

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>>56921431
lmao, holy fucking mass replying cancer gets called on his BS realizes his retardation and claims he was 'only being proactive'.
>mfw

>> No.56921485

>>56919175
Blackstone can't collapse, Gov will bail them out if they have to

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>>56921057
>Call me a shill but I'm not wrong.
No you are wrong. Yes, corporations own 3% of single-family RENTAL properties you nigger. But they own over one fourth of all single-family homes FOR SALE.
>Last year, investor purchases accounted for 22% of American homes sold.

"People" like you belong in work camps.

>> No.56921527

>>56919175
Did they steal Blackrocks homework?

>> No.56921543

>>56921468
>gets called on his BS
Where did I just called on my BS?
Nobody even addressed the arguments I was making.


>>56921515
>Yes, corporations own 3% of single-family RENTAL properties you nigger.
WHOA 3%
You leftoids were saying they were buying up almost ALL of them.
and no, it's not 3%, it's around 0.2%.

>But they own over one fourth of all single-family homes FOR SALE.
WRONG.
This is addressed in the video.
INVESTORS own those properties, meaning mom and pops who own 1-2 investment properties.
I know countless boomer investors who own investment properties, it's a very common thing.
Nigger even I own an investment property. Am I monopolizing the market?

>"People" like you belong in work camps.
Economic illiterate authoritarians deserve to be publicly hung in the streets.

>>56921527
Blackrock literally owns zero single family homes.
You are not immune to propaganda.

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>>56921543
>>56921515
More data from the same corelogic study you yourself posted.

>> No.56921575

>>56921057
>>56921431
>>56921543
>>56921559
Hi Larry Fink!

>> No.56921599

>>56921575
>you're a SHILL and I have no argument
like clockwork

I hate blackrock, they only exist due to government intervention which props them up.
I'm just here to dispel retarded myths that just give leftists more support and talking points.

>> No.56921609

>>56921543
>Blackrock literally owns zero single family homes.
Impressive, very nice.
Now let’s see all of their subsidiaries.

>> No.56921630

>>56921609
>Now let’s see all of their subsidiaries.
Go ahead.
Post proof that their subsidiaries own single family homes.

The most you could say is that home of the stocks they own for investors buy these homes, but that's retarded because they own shares in a wide variety of businesses because they're the largest investment company.

>> No.56921644

a griddle company is getting shidded by a blues man?

>> No.56921656

all these companies have such gay names
>black stone, black Rock, vanguard, wolphram and hart, thieves guild etc.

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>>56921431
I think How you made a tread about one subject into another subject. It very glow in the dark of you.

>> No.56921669

Blackstone is an interesting company, founded by former Lehman Bros CEO and it actually provided early funding for Blackrock. Looks like connections are everything in finance.

>> No.56921684

>>56921543
>INVESTORS own those properties, meaning mom and pops who own 1-2 investment properties.
Well I was wrong.Thank you Anon.

>> No.56921711

>>56921684
We all make mistakes anon. Have a good night.

>> No.56922000

>>56921543
>You leftoids
Stop posting. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

>> No.56922004

>>56919526
>SEX id
kek

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>>56922000
>GOY id
>trips

The economy is OVER

>> No.56922011

>>56922000
You get your talking points from leftists.

>> No.56922036

>>56922011
You wouldn't know what the Right is even if you ended up in Auschwitz. Stop posting.
And no I don't.

>> No.56922123

>>56922036
The nazis were economically left wing.

>> No.56922137

>>56920435
Good GOY ID

>> No.56922160

>>56919423
>They'll slaughter half the population before they let a housing crash happen.
What do you think would happen to the value of real estate after half of the population vanishes, retard?

>> No.56922185

>>56922123
>Get rid of the central bank
>NO NOT LIKE THAT!
Please shut up.

>> No.56922224

>>56922185
Nazis created their own central bank that printed money and caused inflation.

>> No.56922291

>>56922224
No the government issued currency directly. That's the alternative to having a central bank and what the US was doing during the periods we didn't have one.

>> No.56922303

>>56921057
they should own nothing and be happy

>> No.56922368

>>56922291
>No the government issued currency directly.
So basically the government acted like a central bank without being a central bank.
That's basically the same thing.
They print and spent money, causing inflation.

>> No.56922389

>>56922368
I don't care if its Left, Right, or a fucking monarchy as long as they put you people in camps properly this time

>> No.56922446

>>56922389
>no argument
>just irrational anger
Go live in a third world shithole, you seem to have the same ideology and level of intelligence as those people.

>> No.56922774

>>56922446
This isn't debate club.
And there is nothing irrational about my anger

>> No.56922826

>>56922774
>And there is nothing irrational about my anger
Seeing as you have no argument to anything I am saying, it is irrational.

>> No.56922909

>>56922368
What exactly *do* you want? Because before 2011 when Bitcoin was invented those are pretty much the two different ways that can work.
No, it's not the same thing.
With a central bank the currency is controlled by a private company, with government issued currency the currency is controlled by the state.

>> No.56923129

>>56922909
>What exactly *do* you want?
A free market in banking.
>No, it's not the same thing.
In practice is basically is, a monopoly currency with money printing and inflation.

>With a central bank the currency is controlled by a private company,
That's not true. Central banks can be private or nationalized. They're both cancer.

>> No.56923243

>>56919175
Kekekek, burn motherfucker burn. Hope all the Hollywood ESG shit burning down with it helps the process. The woke idiots they hired cant into subversive, all they know is heavy-handed shoving trannies and faggots into everything. The propaganda doesn't work if they hit you over the head and you know thats what it is.

>> No.56923253

>>56923129
>>What exactly *do* you want?
>A free market in banking.
Ok, that sounds nice but it's not very precise. My friends can leave their money at my house and no one is stopping them.
>>No, it's not the same thing.
>In practice is basically is, a monopoly currency with money printing and inflation.
The state will chose something to pay its obligations and collect taxes with. It can either issue it's own or pick a bank from the "free market." Central banking is when it picks a bank. This necessarily creates a currency monopoly.

I know you're upset about the way things are but you're way too focused on the particular structure and not the people. I think the thing that causes this is the overwhelming amount of communist propaganda (reworked in various ways into anarchism, libertarianism, libralism, social justice etc) that has always focused so much on that with the end goal of global intersectional democracy.

What you want is for your people to determine what they do with their land and production and you're tired of the state and banks being weaponized against them. Focus on that.

>> No.56923274

>>56920435
>e likygoy id
>"e likey da goys"

Kek, get a load of this goyliker, Mordechai.

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lol, lmao even