/biz/ - Business & Finance

There is literally zero chance Justice Cornpop puts up with this.

Yes, a one way plane ticket

Will it let me claim unrealized losses too? Because I’ll just make my own shitcoin, washtrade it to $100,000,000 mcap and then crash it so I have a permanent tax credit

>>56894557
hahahahaahahahahha

>>56894557
they will avoid making any sweeping generalizations to taxes. unrealized gains are already taxable in certain scenarios like in corporations

>>56894533
>Taxing unrealized gains
>Not giving tax breaks on unrealized losses
lmao, lol, good luck with that IRS

>>56894533
surf the kali yuga, my friend

>>56894557
Doesnt work that way, sweaty ;)

>>56894533
>own $5000 for 5000 cans of deens
>money printer go brrrrrrr..........
>deens now worth $10000
>PAY 25% TAX (0.25*5000) (sell 625 deen cans)

>year 2: 4375 deens ($8750)
>money printer go brrr
>($8750 deens now worth $17500)
>PAY 25 TAX(0.25*8750) ($2187, sell 546 deen cans)

>year 3: 3829 cans of deens
LITERALLY STEALING YOUR FOOD

>>56894533
i just wont pay the tax

>>56894637
>3829 cans of deenz goes up and down by exactly 1 dollar 10,000 times over the course of year 3
>owe taxes on 10,000 of cumulative unrealized deenz gains
it's not fucking fair bro'es

prediction: none of that shit will ever happen

Rich people will just reject citizenship and move.

Taxing unrealized appreciation is batshit crazy

>>56894533
will never happen. waste of typing.

>>56894692
it only works if they don't have a money printer.
the only way to avoid outright theft of your assets is to not hold cash and hold assets instead.

if they remove that; they own everything. there is no private ownership. they will infinitely print money and infinitely leach assets until america dies.

how does that even economically work? i thought this is why they have fractional reserve banking so they don't have to resort to this type of outright thievery they can do it with loans; and then only retards pay

>>56894533
>illuminated private property rights
kek

>>56894533
>ESL goldbug
Checks out

>>56894533
>Delusional boomer gibberish
Yeah sure that will probably happen, and my dad works at Nintendo.
Not even jews are this retarded.

>>56894692
paying voluntary taxes as a nonresident alien is batshit crazy.

>>56894998
Why are you a non resident alien, Niggerkike?

>>56894533
>Transfer bitcoin to bitcoin-qt
Oh sorry feds I got scammed on IRC.

>>56895022
dunno some smart guy told me i am and i rolled with it for 10 years now and havent received a letter or anything.

>>56894533
>effectively illuminated private property rights
I thought jews were supposed to be good with words

>>56894533
It would be fantastic for me, because I have plenty of tangible assets and have completely stopped paying taxes as of about 6 years ago, and I have legally changed my last name and moved after that so I'm actually pretty certain the IRS doesn't have a file on me anymore.

Basically anyone willing to break the rules like me will come out on top, while everyone else will fall behind. I like it.

How can unrealized gains be taxed when not a single person can practically cash out their entire holdings at the top, let alone every holder?

>>56895056
they will spike a huge green dildo that lasts 2 seconds on december 31st 11:59 pm and that will be the fair value of the assets you have to pay tax on

in reality tho I don't think it will happen most people are poor as fuck and the people with money the politicians woudln't want that for themselves

>>56894444

>>56894533
So you're saying we'll just shoot them?

>>56894557
>tax time comes around
>ZOG buys one of your shitcoins and sells it to itself at $10000000000000000000000
Thanks for playing goy

>>56894554
bingo, this is exactly where im at right now
they also know they have pushed too hard
gonna swing back right for a bit

>>56894554
>>56895224
Don't forget your exit tax + tip goy

How the fuck are they gonna find out about my Nintendo DS collection

>>56895237
Bro just donate your net worth to the country you're moving to for a credit card you'll never pay back

>>56894533
why even post this stupid shit?

>>56894533
>Forces a new consitutional convention where we get a bunch of other shit done on top of outlawing that crap
I see this as an absolute win.

>>56894662
That's why you have to just kill them in GTA VI Minecraft mod lol, simple as take pols advice

leftoid useful idiots running propaganda for them as usual
In this case it's about how the courts should just get out of the way of effective government tm
https://archive.is/URbHJ
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/12/supreme-court-moore-us-unrealized-capital-gains-billionaire-wealth-tax/

>>56894816
freudian slip from a small hat

>the government will buy everything
huge leap with no support at all

>>56895566
they don't have to buy anything, they just have to print money; which will cause the price of everything to go up (which they then tax as cap gains, stealing it's value)

If the government taxes unrealized gains privacy coins (ticker: XMR) are going to skyrocket and rich people/institutions are going to start actually using defi to do their shit. Enter the counter-economic revolution. Could be the best thing to ever happen in the free world.

>>56894554
/thread

>>56894533
This nigga really kvetching over the SCOTUS that murcced Roe v. Wade AND Affirmative Action finna raise taxes? Shieeeeet... chill out nephew. Gottdam.

Uncle Clarence got u.

Real talk.

>>56894533
>Gov spending up by 5.5%
>GDP up by 5.2%
>Peterberg Shify: This means everything else is down .3% !!!111!
If government spending went up by 5.5% and caused total GDP to go up by 5.2%, government spending would have to be like 95% of GDP. This dude is a clown, ignore and move on boys.

>>56894533
sure let me just report my monero real quick lol

>>56896524
i'm sure you got all your crypto's in a 100% private way and not on coinbase

>>56896534
what if he spent it all years ago on drugs, though?

>>56894533
>most americans will be forced to sell just to pay their taxes
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no

>>56896559
he is going to have to report cap gains on those drug buys
BTC/USD is no different than BTC/DRUGS

>>56894585
Ride the tiger.

>>56894533
Ye bad horrible policy
But it won’t affect people here as it involves people with 100 million assets (until inflation hits)

>>56895056
>>56895114
devilish

>>56894557
Oy vey

>>56895244
I claim to own nothing, but in reality, I own a playstation, a corvette, gold, silver, bitcoin, litecoin, and NSDAP daggers. And lots of guns

>>56896515
It's getting there

>>56894533
Why does he keep saying gold will be the only solution. America has precedent where they seized gold from people

>>56895043
Give some more info.

>>56894533
Actually the federal government will not be the only buyer. Any foreigner will buy too since the tax on unrealized assets won't apply to him. Basically it's akin to giving away the ownership of the country to foreigners.

>>56897904
Gold would be the best thing if bitcoin didn't exist. He likely just doesn't understand the technology, like most boomers.

>>56897919
Genius.
>Move to Mexico
>Renounce citizenship
>Scoop up cheapies
Get fucked Uncle Sam

>>56897970
Gold and crypto are great, I love both

>>56894533
THANK GOD FOR TRUMP.

>>56894557
What would be the tax liability of wash trading?

>>56898007
phys metals are terrible for exit strategies and are always outperformed. enjoy being bound to your rocks. keep posting them and their exif data on 4ch as well. u dont get paid enough in debt to promote rocks goy. consider shilling something that actually gives you a return.

Capital gains realistically only happen when you get a x2 min and only at cash out and only like 15% or something MAX.

This seems fair to me as a none neo liberal Muh free market 12 year old.

Anything else is retarded, I'm not completely opposed to capital gains tax but it needs to make it still worth it to invest.

>>56894533
More pressure to move to paralell economies. I wonder what it will take.

so whats the time from on this happening? how many weeks do i have to prepare

>>56899347
The decision is regarding the government’s ability to tax your gains before you realize them. Literally taxing you on your theoretical gains, even if they’re never realized and you make no money/lose money. It’s the most Jewish thing imaginable.

>>56899429
Surely they not that spastic, that would be the end of the USA which I support. Do it faggots, tax money people don't even have thats just a candle stick and a certain time.

What kind of economic incel thought is one up AOC?

>>56894557
one of the things jews hate the most is other jews trying the jew them

>without having to fire a single shot
well in my opinion that's where he's wrong in this scenario.

>>56894975
Jews average IQ is 92.
The jews that founded this system were bright sure, but regression to the mean is a cruel mistress, especially when you include misgeneation as evidenced by how many jews have negro blood in them.

You can't believe it because you anthropomorphise the opposition.
Please stop that, it's unhealthy.

How is this popular with the big money even? This adds some serious selling pressure to all markets as people need to sell to pay taxes on the gains.

Also friendly reminder, in a """""democracy""""" we are allowed to vote on kids menu social issues that have little bearing on most of our lives, while we are not allowed to even discuss, much less vote on, the serious ways in which the government fucks us over (immigration/taxes/trade)

>>56899506
I'm part jew and my IQ is like 129.

I noticed the Ashkenazi I talk to seem to be on my level while the Sephardic jews are midwitts but their jewesses got dat ass.

Never trust a jewess btw.. they can't pair bond. In general jews lack empathy and self centered I just lucked out and turned out to be some sort of spastic with ADHD and PDD-NOS so even thought I seem to lack empathy I really do just want the best for everyone.

No I don't have jew nose, I look weird turkish ( gross ) but femoids rate me high.

>>56899577
To go further on this... I have had jews be loyal but cold and straight up tell me its hard for them to bond to anyone, studying myself I think its not the jews are evil per say they just chaotic neutral, mentally unstable but extremely clever, I do believe they being puppeteered by some other kobul of elites the jews themselves are just the useful tools.

The jews are someone else's goyim.

>>56899577
>>56899647

It's serious neuroticism

>>56894533
I don't care for what jews have to say

>>56894533
>DUDE BUY GOLD XD

>>56899577
>>56899647
rope now you filthy kike

>>56894574
>made zero money the year you had massive losses

what do you intend to get a tax break on?

>>56899683
>>56899743
>>56899683
this is 100% right but neuroticism doesn't = evil which leads me to believe the jews are someone elses goyim.


Honestly anglos / boomers are more evil imo.

>>56900034
If you want the /pol/ answer on the jews here's what I've got

>>56894557
You're not thinking big enough. You should be claiming unrealized DEPENDENTS. There's literally a billion children in my nutsack right now that I could have at any minute.

>>56900034

Neuroticism => self-destructive/manipulative behavior => "evil"

>>56894533
I own guns

>>56900078
fair but this must also apply to women all of /soc/ and all influencers / OF people.

So in the end we are all fucking kikes pretty much.

I wish the /pol/ shit was correct then I would have made it by now, but the goyim have more material wealth then I have, I'm basically 3rd world level.

>>56900060
I don't believe in Arabic dune coon gods, despite being a kike varg is totally right when it comes to Christians, jews, Muslims Zoroastrians so this just makes /pol/ seem batshit to me.

I'm more inline with eastern thinking and pantheism.

>>56895221
my fkin sides

>>56898920
Shut up jew rat

>>56900034
brain dead kike detected

>>56900226
Nigger loving anglo detected who let Ahmed in his nation and let his women be uncontrolled whores and pick Ahmed over them.

When did Anglos become the biggest fucking loser cuck race there was? How weak are your people that you let your women cuck you with sand niggers and totally rule over your society only to blame it on some neurotic dweebs?

>>56894975
>Not even jews are this retarded.
You have no idea who is working at the fed.

>>56900061
Ok now this is big if true

>>56899539
>Also friendly reminder, in a """""democracy""""" we are allowed to vote on kids menu social issues that have little bearing on most of our lives, while we are not allowed to even discuss, much less vote on, the serious ways in which the government fucks us over (immigration/taxes/trade)
If congress wants to tax my 10xs congress seating should be increased 10x and blockchain digital voting should be implemented at all scales. We know they can identify you are a working citizen because of the IRS.

>>56900250
This is /biz/ not /pol/, you’re about to get banned if you don’t stop running your jewish mouth about races

>>56900299
Shut the fuck up if your jannie your a pedophile saving CP all day and thats why you do it for free kill yourself.

>>56895114
You say this but if you venmo $600, 24% is taken as backup witholding

>>56900378
>"bwhaaa you have a problem with my off-topic nigger tier bullshit?"
>"MUST BE A PEDOPHILE JANNY!"
You're probably going to get your brains blown out with that attitude.

>>56898920
Youre retarded as fuck and should kys. Worst post ive read all day by a mile

>>56894533
Why would those in charge make laws to enpoverish themselves?

>>56900549
Collapse not happening fast enough. They want to accelerate.

>>56894713
>how does that even economically work? i thought this is why they have fractional reserve banking so they don't have to resort to this type of outright thievery they can do it with loans; and then only retards pay
It doesn't, you are correct, just the shiny rock jew trying to off load his metal on doomer dumbfucks

>>56899647
Yeah it’s Satan chaim. Denying the Son aligns you with evil.

>>56900558
They want to kill themselves?
Seriously, what is the motivation here?

>>56900639
Have total power, usher in their Messianic age with the subjugation of all others.

The problem with their logic is in Zechariah 12:10. (God says that in the end times…)

> I will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of mercy and supplication, so that when they look on him whom they have pierced, they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and they will grieve for him as one grieves over a firstborn.

>>56900620
Agreed. The Lord hardened their hearts like the Pharaoh. The promised “new heart” was given to Christians through Christ.

>>56894673
Renouncing citizenship takes 5-10 years, for this very reason.

>>56900639
You really have never read the Talmud before, huh? They have different motivations anon. This anon gets it >>56901068

>>56896637
Your sister rides my cock

>>56894533
Lmao!
I hope this happens, it would cause the collapse of America overnight.

>>56894533
Jewish fear mongering. Peter Schiff is a kike

>>56899647
> The jews are someone else's goyim.

Demons maybe

>>56900091
This is the correct answer.
So much so that I think these little pokes and prods by owned news outlets are specifically to get a tally on who is willing to send tyrants to hell by their own hand.

>>56901068
Okay please explain exactly what this means and its implications for us smoothbrains here

>>56899506
This is cope. Average ashkenazi jewish iq is 112 hence why they control everything and outsmart everyone.
>muh nepotism and tribalism
Gypsies are more nepotistic and tribalistic than jews yet they dont control shit because they are actually 85 iq inbred retards.
The intelligence difference between you and a random black is smaller than the difference between a jew and white goy. Thats why they single handedly Btfo all monarchies and took control of everything

>>56901796
Zechariah 12:10 shows that the Jews will have a change of heart in the end times, when they accept The Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53, AKA Jesus Christ. This happens after the final war between Israel and all countries on Earth. Israel is a national example of sin and even greater grace from God. Take note for your own life and seek refuge in that grace.

The Jewish don’t accept Christ, obviously, and believe that as the Chosen people of God they will triumph over all their enemies once the Messiah comes as a sort of warrior king. They’ve got it all wrong, basically.

>>56894998
>paying voluntary taxes as a resident alien is batshit crazy.
This is why the border is open. To hollow the tax base out to nothing.

>>56902053
Those studies are shams. See the video on it from Leather Apron Club on YouTube.

>>56900061
now we're fucking talking

>>56896515
Their extended torsos are unsettling. Always reminds me of a praying mantis.

>>56898784
Zero basis cost for creating (((economic activity)))

>>56902234
Full-blooded whites have long torsos, too. Better for wrestling/fighting. This is partly why Asians are so good in Olympic weight lifting.

>>56895325
How can you trust any convention of politicians to do anything right?

>>56895137
Yes

>>56902205
I love how the cope is always that iq studies are all perfectly accurate and 100% reliable when discussing white vs black intelligence yet whenever white vs jewish intelligence comes up suddenly its all fake inaccurate lies keeeek.
You simply dont have a >1% of the population group which is basically synonymous with the 1% elites, controlling the other 99% without there being a advantage in intelligence.
Yes jews work together... Thats called... being smart??.
I have big respect for the jews, imagine managing to conquer the world without even using physical force, something which even the roman empire failed to do.
Them using the magic money printer is genius, and it completely went right over the head of the 99% goy cattle, who have historically spent all their time and effort using physical force fighting over piles of rocks and dirt (land), this is crude and barbaric in comparison to the jews method of subtle subversion through monetary forces. Jews have a much deeper understanding of money, they see it as merely a type of energy to be harnessed. Meanwhile they goycattle are content to being paycheck slaves never aspiring for more.
The highest aspirations of the average goy is to go to school and get a "good job" working for the jews who aspire to create and own businesses. Polchuds really fail to give the jews mercantile spirit enough recognition

Typical clickbait fear porn from Peter Schiff. He's really no different than the rest of the YouTube grifters like Michael Bordenero.

Nothing new, move along.

Yeah I understand it's bad, but:
1. I'm not a burger
2. There's not a single thing one of you can do about it.

You could theoretically do stuff in Minecraft but no one would be willing to risk being banned from the server

>>56894533
Not worth entertaining as a possibility. I would 100% stop paying taxes in this case. What will they do, throw me in jail?
>Oh no, I wouldn't own anything or have any real control in my life!
Happens either way

>>56894533
I am for this, because fuck capitalism. We should build country for everybody, not just for rich pigs. Viva le Revolution!

>>56896515
jesus christ now THAT is an abdomen

Peter Schiff is never right about anything.

>>56894673
Renouncing your US citizenship triggers the tax on all unrealized capital gains. That already exists.

>>56903990
delete this

>>56894533
At that point, the value of my ARs and AKs will moon.

>the Federal Government of all things would pull off a "communist revolution"
topkek

>>56894557
based

>>56903990
Begone kike

>>56894533
>without having to fire a single shot

[x]

>>56903990
based

>>56894533
>bad
Nope. This is a win for the common man. The rich will suffer for once. Get the fuck out of the USA if you disagree. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

>>56904870
If that was the case how exactly did the jews get those roles without being smart? magic? Let me guess something something jesus satan -insert skizo here -

>>56894673
Good. They can take a bath paying their way out of the country. Good riddance.

>>56894660
>i just wont pay the tax
You will faggot. If you don't the IRS will find you. They will make you pay one way or another.

>>56895137
>>56902834
Loud mouthed little dicked faggots like you won't do shit. Go get your guns and try it faggots. You haven't got the guts. Even if you did the most you'd accomplish is your death by cops.

>>56904492
This nigga gets it. The rich can suffer for as long as takes to get them to be postive members of society rather than the leaches they are.

>>56899429
There wouldn't be any gains because all markets would be fucked.

>>56903990
You know you'll be depopulated, right?

>>56902053
If kikes are so smart then where is all their ancient civilizations? Why did they depend on goyim to accept them into their societies to survive?

>>56902053
>Average ashkenazi jewish iq is 112
Given the average reported Israeli IQ of 95, and the average reported Jordanian IQ of 84, the claim of an average 115 IQ for Ashkenazi Jews would necessarily require all other Jews to have an average IQ of 84.2. This means that even if Ashkenazi Jews did have a mean IQ of 115, then the average global Jewish IQ would be 107.0.

>>56905453
Being Evil pieces of non-human shit.
The god of this world is not said to be Lucifer the Satan for nothing.

>>56906543
Parasites need a host.
Parasites cannot survive on their own.

>inb4 jews are symbiotes
There is not one civilisation that hosted jews that either survived or did not remove them.
Europeans countries would stop dying overnight if they expelled the jews, even the demographics invasion could be reversed in under a year, as demonstrated by the india-pakistan partition.
Moving hundreds of millions of people would be trivial with modern means.

>>56905453
They got the roles via tribalism/nepotism and subversion of the host population. Being tricky clever bastards that know how to take over a society isn’t a true intelligence that can create beautiful societies and advance the sciences.

Whenever Jews are exiled an intellectual revolution of sciences and arts soon follows. Jews are literally harbingers of the dark ages and repress humanities potential with their kikery

>>56906585
I understand, my question was rhetorical

>>56894557
Actual capital losses are barely reciprocated anyways.
If I made $100 thousand in stocks one year, I'd owe 30k in taxes the following.
If I lost $100 thousand in stocks the following year, I'd only be able to claim at most 3k as a fucking DEDUCTIBLE, with the remainder 27k of taxes still owed from the prior year.
You take on the all the risk to crawl yourself out of financial slavery, and if you lose you receive almost nothing in return for the risks you took. Either way the tax man gets paid.

>>56894660
then you will be sent to gulag with others (((((YOUTHS))))

>>56894533
Everyone knows how bad it is and what it means. Either it would never happen as a result or it would and it means we are so weak and demoralized theres nothing worth saving anyway so let's burn it down.

>>56895221
Laughed really hard at this post

>>56894533
Stupid as fuck. Schiff is a great hustler, I will give him that. Like a boomer Deon Sanders. I really admire his totally organic presence on this board.

>>56894533
I can say witu 100% certainty this isnt going happening simply because it would fuck over major corporations.

>>56900061
Think of all the child care credits the government owes us

>>56894533
Is this gonna be like the UAW strike bringing the entire country to a halt?

>>56894533
He's not wrong about how bad the US government wants to tax people's equity. I think it will look more like a federal level property tax though. But the states wont like it because that's technically the states property.

>>56897904
They can seized anything they want. People become forced home sellers to build Amazon warehouses, highways, or strip malls. We don't have property rights, we have property privileges.

>>56894533
Liz Warren is a kleptomaniac. Her fantasy is to steal from Americans both through direct taxes and straight up property confiscation to fund gloabl nigger communism

if these faggots want to tax my gold they can fuck off

>>56908068
>it would fuck over major corporations.
Are you implying laws get applied equally?

>>56894533
>deep breath
Didn't read.

>>56908196
who votes for this hag?