/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>56707807
>mech eng
>D
FUCK

>>56707807
>my wagie degree is better than your wagie degree!
Your degree is fuck all if you’re just going to wage anyways you cuck.

>>56707807
>no degree
>SSS tier
thanks anon

>>56707807
Also
>computer science
>S

>>56707807
Business belongs in D at best
>t. BS-BA

>>56707807
The only S tier are trades. Electrician or plumber are S's between S's. I'm a plumber and earn more money than any of that list

>>56707807
>CS
The CS bullrun is dead. That goes in D tier.
>business
Lmao, a general degree worth nothing
>math
Worthless without a phd

>>56707844
Kek no you don’t

>>56707835
this tbqh famalam

>>56707845
what even is a math degree for?
>look how many fancy ways I can play with numbers

>>56707832
>>56707835
Meanwhile in reality college degree holders have 5x the net worth of retards with a mere high school diploma

>>56707807
Any 4 year degree is not going to cut it these days besides maybe comp sci. My parents should have told me a 4 year was not the end all be all. People who go on to become MDs, APRN, PA, JD, etc…veterinarians.. make twice what I do with my “good” degree that is rightfully in the D category.

>>56707853
Problem solving

>>56707860
Which degree do you have? Hopefully it’s not one of those awful physical sciences

>>56707807
CS is down to C tier.
And how is Aerospace Engineering D tier? You can easily become a defense contractor chad and make a shit ton of money

>>56707854
I never said college is worthless you retard. It doesn’t matter what your degree is if you’re just going to be a wage cuck

>>56707860
The only real ways to become secure are to go to an additional program after a 4 year, or start a business. Good luck starting a business without rich parents. Every success story I’ve heard is someone who started a business using a large inheritance. Knowing what I know now I would have looked beyond a 4 year degree..

>>56707853
The bachelor's in math is trash and has no value. It's even worse than a chemistry BA. PhD graduates in math can earn a lot of money if they can land a job working as an actuary, quant, or doing data analysis/stats.

>>56707807
Also your A tier is filled with F tier dogshit meme degrees

>>56707872
Mechanical engineering.
Well that’s what I get for listening to boomers operating off of ideas of what the economy was 30 years ago.

>>56707878
>actuary, quant, or doing data analysis/stats.
you could do all of these with just a bachelors degree

>>56707886
You can, but good luck getting hired.

>>56707878
Eh you can probably become a highschool math teacher. Better than working retail so it would probably be a D degree.

>>56707891
I really don’t think higher learning will increase your chances at becoming an actuary or quant, both depend on scoring high. It could help for data analysis but that’s a bachelors degree role so it’s not necessary.

>>56707883
Mechanical engineering is horrendous now, I’m sorry to hear that. You were lied to unfortunately.

>>56707878
Math is only a good degree insofar as it gets you opportunities in finance or software development.

Actuary is a shit career that involves passing a bunch of exams for low pay. Quant is obviously a good career but there’s like 5 total jobs.

>>56707853
AI (machine learning prerequisites are stats, probability, linear algebra, all in math undergrad courses)

Clearest reasoning foundation and rigorous thinking possible offered in university

Real finance and data science is grad math.

>CS
economically the CS bullrun is dead
intellectually, CS fags in FANG dosent even know what an empty set is. They cannot reason without referencing data structures. Not capable of novel thinking.

>>56707807
"Business" is A-tier?
CS is S-tier?
Philosophy is F-tier?
Linguistics is F-tier?
Chemical Engineering is C-tier?
No

>>56707844
True and no loans. And there's comfy maintenance jobs where you don't have to destroy your body

>>56707891
i work as an actuary and can tell you that almost everyone i work with has just a bachelor's. hell, most of them didn't even major in math. as long as you can pass actuarial exams nobody cares.

If you didn't study CS in the age of computers you're honestly fucking stupid.

You really thought there would be some big innovation in civil engineering or whatever field that has been around for 2 thousand years?

>>56707807
>Nursing A tier
What

>>56707807
honestly a boring cunt list

like comp sci doesnt even need a degree

>Nursing is in A tier, second from best tier

Did a nurse make this chart? (I'm a nurse too, but damn man)

>>56708465
cope

>>56707807
Train driver here
On track for 300k AUD
No degree

>>56707844
>>56708437
for 30s neet what is best trade to get into. extra points if it doesn't suck too bad, money is less important.

>>56707807
There needs to be one more tier. Chemistry and Pre-Vet are easily a tier above Dance or Gender Studies

>>56708384
>Business" is A-tier?
Yes, it might never reach S-tier but will always sit flush in addition to whatever degree is currently hyped up.

>>56708384
>Philosophy is F-tier?
>Linguistics is F-tier?
Yes.

>>56708581
"Business" as an undergrad major is retarded. get an MBA if you want that lane
>>56708588
philosophy won't get you a job but if I was generationally rich, I might go to college for philosophy. closer to the original purpose of the institution.
Linguistics is like the math major of the humanities. Again, probably won't get a great job. But it could. I know linguistics folks who have been recruited by glowies. If you can pair it with a competency in programming, there's a lane

>>56708533
>>56708506
Travel nursing is a goldmine and nurses can actually make good money unlike the vast majority of these degrees, it’s also resistant to recessions or market turbulence

>>56707807
Medicine is the only SSS tier.
You will only disagree if you got filtered.

>>56707807
Where does pharmacist stand? I'm banking almost $200k after salary, bonuses, and employee stocks/dividends.

>>56708644
>Travel nursing is a goldmine
A lot of hospitals are starting to get wise to how much travel nurses are costing them and are opting to increase staff pay to get proper staffing numbers back to what it should be. Covid did burn a lot of people out of the profession though, which brought that huge opportunity for travel nursing. Obviously there will always be holes to fill, but I think the goldrush is coming to an end

>>56708660
All the pharmacists I knew were pajeets. It's a step higher than running the local kwikimart.

>>56708634
>"Business" as an undergrad major is retarded. get an MBA if you want that lane
Probably correct for the US.
Where I am at business degrees often have a more theoretical and analytical focus, diving deeply into fundamentals of business, economics, and management. American business degrees, on the other hand, place more emphasis on practical skills, case studies, and a broader range of subjects.

>>56707807
Economy should be D or F
Aerospace should be A

>>56707807
>S
nothing
>F
every degree

>>56707807
Everything you can teach yourself for free and get a job in belongs in F tier

>>56707844
tradecucks are cringe but at least they don't go >50k in debt just to work an entry level job. The probability of escaping wagecucking is higher if you play your hand right

>>56707807
>CS
>S
Outdated. Still high tier though.

>>56707807
>either b8 or retard
without math computer science would be nothing my dude
it's not only about money that makes things valuable

>>56707807
Business , economics, nursing, finance shpuld be c-tier. Comp sci b, maths physics S. Proper natural sciences b and all social sciences d.

I'm a nurse.
It's too high up on your list

>>56707807
why is nursing so high up on the list? its like the most basic bitch stuff a woman can do. you only see retarded beckies and stacies going that route. here in europe only poor and criminal AUSLÄNDER do that. we have polish bitches and gypsies in that field. It is embarrassing and super low tier!!!

>>56707807
>H SCIENCE!

>>56707807
where are the NEETs?

>>56708660
imagine being a proud learne drug dealing faggot
you deserve to be hanged for treason on the day of the rope
literally poisoning billions including babies and little kids
> b but i earn 200k bro

>>56708644
>Nursing.

To make the serious money in nursing you need to specialise for between 7-10 years, you're still better off being a doctor.
Interestingly, it is not as resiliant to changes as you state.
Coming Ai affects on the industry and going to be incredible, from mapping patient treatment/management plans to even the administering of IV drugs it is going to get a real shake up in the next 10 years from technology.
COVID showed hospitals need far more technology running routine things so cross contamination can be managed easier and the race is on globally to achieve this.
Nurses are in the direct firing line, so filipinas will have to go back to whoring

>>56709121
In america they make 100k

F
>education
>chemistry
>health science
>marine science
>atmospheric and oceanic studies
>geography
>astronomy
>enviromental studies
>political science
>international relations
>journalism
>communications
>all kinds of art
Nice, educations is not worth anything, sciences to secure the future existance of humankind sucks, political matters are whatever and it is the same whoever is spreading the news, articles and informational outcomes to the world. And who even likes arts and digital media, less spends time watching movies and series?

>>56709542
The median annual wage for licensed practical and licensed vocational nurses was $54,620 in May 2022. The median wage is the wage at which half the workers in an occupation earned more than that amount and half earned less. The lowest 10 percent earned less than $40,490, and the highest 10 percent earned more than $72,650.

https://www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/licensed-practical-and-licensed-vocational-nurses.htm#tab-5

>>56709542
The nurse working in a ghetto clinic makes $100k? Really?
Well I'm convinced.

>>56709637
this.
Plus professional indemnity costs, yearly licensing costs, ongoing training costs, the fact it's shift work, has some varying degree of exposure to trauma, and literally competes with third world workers for staffing positions.

Yeah nah, its shit.

>>56708506
Probably one of the highest growth professions there are in the west...you can specialize in a lot of niche fields which pay good money, have to work with old people though

I.Q wise, the only subjects which have 135+ are physics, astronomy, maths, economics and philosophy.

reality?
if you have your wits about you then university is for girls and networking whereas if you are smart but dim and probably don't realise it (until you speak to girls) then university is for finding a place at wage town.

>>56709542
you compete with beaners from mexico. no way in hell are they making that much!

>>56709854
>astronomy
>economics and philosophy.
yea keep telling yourself that buddy
econonics and philosophy is literally the cope tier majors for people who have no skills and no idea what to do with their lives but want to earn money and sound professional
the math in economics is literally highschool tier 1+1=2 stuff and the in philosophy theres literally zero math involveved at all lmao

>>56709998
not telling myself anything senor.
feel free to check it yourself.
There's only a handful of subjects where students are 135+.

Regardless, it's quite clear, university is a life long ski pass to wage town.

>>56710031
t. economics or philosophy brainlet wannabe

you will never ever be as smart as anyone with math in it including engineering, computer science and the like, but keep coping

>>56707807
Business, economics, finance all need to be in at best c tier. Math's, Physics, Elec Eng. should take there place.

You accurately shit on most engineering degrees though so good job.

>>56710074
coping? you really did study maths huh? you're about as discerning as a bottle of used aloe vera.

i'm a wagie who studied applied mathematics and then did a philosophy masters (logic) .

just detailing what's the case.
smartest AND most interesting people i met at uni were when i studied philosophy but cool anon, could care less if you agree or not and certainly don't want to go back and forth about it anymore, was just adding my two cents to the thread.
i'm an anon and did what anons do, so did applied maths, but there's no getting round the fact that by comparison it was boring and when it comes to hello i'm la and i did la and now i do la it makes girls dry.
as for the other point, exceptions might prove the rule but university, and especially subjects like maths, well, it's the way to wage town.

incidentally, a.i can code and logic but ask it to conceptualise ala Hume, that's a long way from happening.

>>56710443
>did a philosophy masters (logic) .
yea im right and youre a coping brainlet dingding ding
you also never studied math

>>56708565
For you general laborer. Always the biggest fuckups who get to clean up the mess of the skilled trades

>>56710572
ok

>>56707807
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>>56707878
Actuaries have an exam they take and from there, you're qualified. No degree necessary.

I got a film degree. I am the only one of my classmates I know of that is employed well. it attracts retards like a moth to a candle

>>56709637
>https://www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/licensed-practical-and-licensed-vocational-nurses.htm#tab-5
An LPN is not an RN (the most common type of nursing license you're going to get if you go into 'Nursing')
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/registered-nurses.htm#tab-5
I've been in the field for around 5 years now and I make over $90k pre-tax per year

>>56709691
>indemnity costs
Any hospital you work for would cover you themselves so long as you're following their policies. Getting your own private coverage for practicing is a scam
>yearly licensing costs
You only need to renew once every two years, which can range in price from $75-190 depending on the state
>ongoing training costs
You can find free CEUs pretty easily, and if you join any nursing associations with their own magazines or junk like that they come with provided CEUs that are extremely easy to bang out in maybe eight hours total

>>56707807
>Aerospace Engineer
Can confirm, it's shit tier.

>>56707807
Everything that isn't in F tier is painfully boring, though

>>56711163
>Boring
You're a low IQ NPC, unfortunately. Ignorance is truly bliss.

>>56707874
Breaking your back for minimum wage and working from home for 100k a year is a world of difference anon

>>56707807
I have a CS degree and am a recent grad and had the most miserable time(several months) trying to get employed. I was summa cum laude with a 3.9 gpa. I make shit too.

>>56712466
Job market is just shit now for new grads, especially if you're a white male
>t. graduated a year ago, still doing drudge work