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Baking.

How much longer until markets get heemed by the big war coming?

>Economy
>https://youtu.be/QqDUBMGPOS4?si=eIXI1zLaGkZEZh2J

>>56460895
You know the answer

>>56460895
wars are bullish, the market went up 3% the day russian invaded and rallied months after

>>56460810
>We could in fact double our current debt and with extreme austerity measures come out the other side of it intact
>t. Greek politician in 2009
It turns out that it in a fake economy propped up by nothing but government spending, suddenly switching to austerity causes valuations to return to a rational level, i.e. zero, and for GDP to implode. Guess what this does to debt-to-GDP. Go on, guess.

Why are futures shitting the bed?

>futures

>>56460919
They'll be green by morning.

I have not looked at my portfolio for two days. How are we doing?

>>56460937
They'll be even redder by morning.

>>56460947
Short it then pussy

>>56460919
Yesterday was green so they will be red first, either even more red later or green again

>>56460919
Maybe its due to China shit happening?

>Chinese developer Country Garden Holdings Co. was deemed to be in default on a dollar bond for the first time ever, per Bloomberg

>$124.5 billion worth of bonds are now in default in the entire $175 billion China property dollar bond sector, per Reuters

I say let everything accelerate and crash into the wall already

>>56460919
I don't know.
Asian stocks are up. European stock futures are flat. Gold is flat. USD is flat. US Treasurys are almost flat.

>>56460915
>greek bonds are the same as USD bonds
Lol. Lmao even.

>>56460895
Oil's telling you the answer plain as day: never.

>>56460945
Depends. What's in your portfolio?

>>56460961
>either even more red later or green again
no shit

>>56460933
>Oil barons chasing yields.webm

>>56461012
100% TransUnion

>>56460919
Because I called it yet again

Goog

>>56461012
why? you wanna copy me?

>>56461031
Why the fuck did TRU and FICO plunge? Did Biden suddenly require they have to give perfect credit checks and 850's to all black people?

>>56461016
You asked why they are red not if there are red in the future retard, aint no oracle

>>56461047
Because your portfolio might be fucked (100% short-dated GOOG calls) or it might be mooning (100% crypto miners)

>>56460976
o shit

>>56461056
that's not helpful anon. I want to know how we doing? Not how google is doing

>>56461054
Im just here shitposting with you guys

>>56460895
There is no ware, just a bunch of bullshit and kvetching.

>>56461004
>nothing ever happens

I dunno, looks like the housing bubble is finally bursting kek

>https://twitter.com/KobeissiLetter/status/1716855910465777734

>futures

https://youtu.be/w5i0FFtFYCw?si=E_qK3eAr3Yj7FYMa

>>56461080
>San Francisco
>A literal shithole

>>56461080
>san fransico
people dont want to live a feces covered open air drug market when big tech now wfh? who knew?

for how long has le recession been only two more weeks away?
3 years,
4 years?

>>56461080
case shiller will disagree

>>56461109
The loudest calls for it were in spring of 2022 I think, things were wild in 2021. And so many people have been calling for soft landings early this year it would be hard to say a single consensus exists.

U
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CN
OIL
AU
LM

>>56461109
By the strictest definition it's been a recession for a while but that's mostly just because it's really funny when everyone chimps out thinking it's an actual recession when it isn't.

>>56461149
With this much of US deficit spending as well as employment showing no signs of increasing it's hard to envision where a recession should emerge from.
I mean, every single bear argument for housing has been proven incorrect as well, for example.

>>56461174
>By the strictest definition it's been a recession for a while
Tell us more specifics.
>>56461177
>employment showing no signs of decreasing

>>56461109
Yeah it's just gonna pump again later

>>56461109
This is the best economy in the history of the world. In another few years, it will only take 5 full time incomes per household to live the American dream of barely surviving.

Our future is bright indeed with bidenomics. Our cities are safe and prosperous and our buying power is so good the news is telling us to skip meals to save money. 50% of young adults now live with their parents, but america is booming

>>56461180
Two quarters of negative gdp growth is technically a recession and that has happened. It's just that anyone pointing at that like it's a real recession is retarded if they're not taking everything into account for context.

Yields...

>futures

My shorts are with overvalued companies, they will come back.

>>56460989
Hang Seng did the old pre-market pump into whole day dump today

Here's to surviving the millennial bottom!

how we feeling abt INM?

>>56461379
oh good, yields are decreasing.

We are healing so much bros!

>>56460919
Yes, someone explain. Most markets are doing alright, and most of the earnings today (of which there were several critical ones) were pretty good. There is no reason for futures to be red.

Honest question lads. Im about to start trading stocks but im basically retarded. I was gonna start by buying $500 of a big company. Then just weekly until i get the hang of it, put $50 in different companies until i get the jist of what to and not to do. Is this a viable beginners strategy?

>>56461642
It will definitely be a good way to learn what not to do. I say go for it, you won't lose too much, and the best way to learn is to get burned.

>>56461642
You need a plan. Why are you buying? What is your goal? When will you get out?

What calls to buy or puts to make a quick buck?

Put your money into SPY and/or QQQ. SPY is "the market." QQQ will have higher volatility but potentially higher long term CAGR. That's literally all you need to do. Get all of your employer matching with your Roth 401k (normally they match 50% up to 10%), and then max out your Roth IRA. Then you add to your individual account, int that order. You're most likely not going to generate any alpha long term by hand picking stocks without years of experience. Something like 50% of hedge funds managers don't outperform SP 500 in a given year, and 90% don't outperform over a 10 year period. The best bet is DCA'ing into major indexes, especially with tax advantaged accounts. Paper trade on the side and research new strategies during this time. And look into the tax implications if you were to buy and sell stocks (short term and long term capital gains taxes). There are certain options strategies like index LEAPS and long synthetic futures to gain specific leverage amounts, but don't even worry about that yet.

>>56461654
Im gonna start actually reading up on what market cap, shorting and all that crap means in the meantime.
>>56461685
Im buying to make money, my goal is too try and make some side money. Ill get out when im like old and shit

>>56461642
Meant link below for you anon.
>>56461701

>>56461701
Cheers lad, are you German?

>>56461700
TMF, COIN (MARA if you feel brave), CCJ, UNG

>>56461701
Forgot to mention im ausfailian not a yank

>>56461642
Unironically start paper trading and whatever works for you do it for real.

If $50 weekly is the best you can do you are ngmi by boomer investing. You should arrive at this conclusion by yourself anyways just doing the math.

>>56461701
I want her to step on me with those heels

>>56461718
>>56461721
No I'm American because God loves me. My advice with the retirement accounts was for US anons. But the rest is still applicable and I assume you're able to buy SP 500 and Nasdaq 100 index funds/ETFs. If you're set on stock buying then start with the higher market cap stocks, which are going to be US listed.

Fucking uranium better not pull double top

>>56461736
I could ramp it up to like 500 a week but most of my money is going towards my home deposit (which i basically already have)

>>56461709
Oh you want to trade trade. I can't say much about that, I only INVEST. One thing I can point out is to consider your fees and position sizes. If you put down $50 per trade and say make a good 10% ($5), but pay a $1 open and close fee, you're left with 6% gain ($3).

>>56461759
>>56461787
Cheers lads, ill report in when i inevitably fuck up and come back for more advice

>>56460871
Crocs maximalists will 2x after the cowgirl crocs shoes becomes the biggest trend in fashion and after they crush their earnings. if you would have listened when crocs was at 83 you would have made it. Mind you, you still have time to hoard more Crox before earnings, after that it will be too late
https://www.thepioneerwoman.com/just-for-fun/a45617740/croc-cowboy-boots/

I thought goog and msft saved the market? What happend?

should you buy different companies' ETFs in different sectors? Like if I buy vanguard ETF in healthcare should I buy iShares ETF in technology and Invesco ETF in energy? Does that matter at all?

>>56461709
Bro you’re absolutely retarded for buying boomer bags near ath
This country is a rotten corpse
Do you really think you can get wealthy by becoming a one one billionth owner of Dominos Pizza? Just give up lmao

>>56461045
Wtf

>>56461736
>0.01%

I know this is not meant to be taken literally, but at those odds it makes more sense to play roulette.
And how can you not have comfort and stability by just working? Unless you work in retail or some shit, then guess what fag, maybe should've invested into an education.
All in all, a retarded take

>beheemed again in PM

>>56461876
i don't care lol i have a decent job. just want something to fuck around with. I said before side money, not become a septillionaire of stonks lmao

>>56461880
Don't talk about it or he'll slap you.

chink stocks are really the ultimate shitcoin. yesterday up on """"stimulus"""" news, today down because country garden.
BTW the derivative committee has to meet today to give the greenlight on the resolving of the CDS, which will prolly trigger some shitstorm

its over for sbb baggies

>>56461950
Never understood why people willingly trade stocks in a planned economy ruled by a relatively authoritarian government.

>>56461868
I don't see a benefit to that. But if you trade a specific sector in two accounts (e.g. a taxable account and a Roth IRA account), it might be simpler to use the iShares version in one account and the Vanguard version in the other so a purchase in one won't cause a sale in the other to be a wash sale.

Anon, what's stopping you from holding the EU guaranteed 7% per year?

>>56461980
>Currency in RON
do Romanian bonds in Euros have the same yield?

>>56461980
> euro

>>56461982
Ok, you got me. Still not bad.

STOP THE FUCKING COUNT!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>56462000
Unlike dollars euro bills vary in size so for example if you take a huge shit you can use the 50 euro bill but if it's only a small or a very solid shit and your asshole isn't too dirty you can wipe with the 5 euro bill.

Do I double down on my oil bets?

>>56462016
Aren't they scheduled to be made of of plastic or something? That way they will depreciate forever until the end of time even as micro plastics

>>56462001
Yeah that's good.

>>56462056
You vill ingest my bags even after I'm long gone.

>>56462037
I'm just a simple country space chicken but in my personal opinion it's probably going to crab until next year between the 80-90$ range before taking off next spring and summer when demand kicks in and the spr starts getting refilled. Make of that what you will.

>>56462037
No.

spy max pain seems high.

>>56461379
and people said the credit downgrade didn't mean anything kek

>>56461883
Usually when people "YOLO" it's into an ATM option. Delta on those is often something like 30% which isn't so bad. Idk where GP got "0.01%" from.

>>56462332
That indicates it doesn't mean anything.

>>56460919
>WW3 didn't start last weekend
>dead cat bounce after Friday's heeming expected
>GE, VZ, GOOG, MSFT, V all "beat expectations"
The dead cat bounce on Monday and Tuesday has turned out suspiciously weak.
Talking heads today try to talk us into a positive mood but it seems retail investors aren't buying it.

>>56462349
Anon the credit downgrade is felt most on the longer term bonds and they've been in this elevated state ever since it occurred

>>56462353
I think you're confused: Yields are inversely related to demand; if no one wants the bonds the yields go up until they buy them.

>>56462359
anon there's also credit risk
the higher the credit risk the higher the yield to compensate
america went form AAA to AA which over 20-30 years makes a difference

america's credit rating is below microsoft lmao

Inside day, 4h looks to be pulling us down but I'd wager we stay in range and break a bear flag for a leg down or find support to test a larger timeframes 200ma. Volume seems sluggish and rightly so AH earnings tonight so I'd imagine we weakly bounce

I anticipate mint green with a couple of rough spots.

Join the dividend growth investors
>>56457577
>>56457577
>>56457577

>>56462372
Microsoft audits make the IRS look like baby kittens and they're the only company I know of that's actually beaten them in court. They're probably the most creditworthy public institution on the planet but certainly don't have a line of credit anywhere near as big as the whole US. This is a false equivalency.

>>56462393
>dividend yield for my portfolio is 2.4%
I'm comfy
>>56462398
that's how the ratings go anon
I don't think you know how bad the debt situation for america is right now

>>56462398
Anyone with a deep wallet can. All of it is unconstitutional you dumb figger.

>>56462400
I don't think you know how not that bad it actually is but I'd rather check those dubs than argue before I've had my coffee.

>>56462393
>Join the dividend growth investors
What is there to join? That dividend investors are morons and that they lack a fundamental understanding on how dividends work?

Sorry, I don't need my own thread to take the boglepill.

Lol the bear narrative is finished. I know they're going to come up with some new weak ass nothingburger to freak out about next week but for right now there's absolutely zero reason to be selling

>>56462428
we are objectively in a bear market until we pass the last lower high imo.

>>56462440
Yeah except we've been in a "bear market" that's actually just been a bunch of bearish speculation and short selling. Three months of complete fucking nonsense where I'm willing to bet money that Big Money has been absolutely loading up on cheapies.

>>56462413
They got taken to task over it during the trump years and brought their money back to the states and are currently on the hook for something like 60 billion in back taxes owed that they'll probably argue down a bit in court before ultimately paying most of it so they did eventually "lose" but it's more "actually doing the right damn thing". I overpay my taxes every year and intentionally take as few deductions as possible or none at all if I can because I know uncle Sam needs the money so I get being pissed about it but at least things are changing for the better. End of the day though and tax evasion is illegal and immoral but reducing a tax burden is just good business practice and technically must be done to some extent if possible as part of a companies fiduciary duty especially if they pay divvies.
>inb4 BRO TAXES ARE FUCKIN GAY you must be 18 to post here

Crypto chuds are laughing at us. Our response?

>>56462458
>I overpay my taxes every year and intentionally take as few deductions as possible or none at all if I can because I know uncle Sam needs the money
That's just retarded. It's one thing to cheat but you shouldn't *over pay.*

>>56462393
You do understand what happens to stock price when divvies are paid out? And that they're taxed as well?

>>56462473
>Our response?
same thing we tell meme stock fags
fuck off

>>56462458
>I overpay my taxes every year and intentionally take as few deductions as possible or none at all if I can because I know uncle Sam needs the money
wat

>>56462458
>I overpay my taxes every year and intentionally take as few deductions as possible or none at all if I can
Good for you, goy.

>>56462473
Crypto is a leading indicator of risk-on behavior. Stocks are next.

>>56462458
>End of the day though and tax evasion is illegal and immoral
>immoral
Tax is literally extortion and theft.

>>56462485
Yes For one millisecond the stock price reflects the dividend this is absolutely correct. You do understand what happens when you have to sell your initial investment just to get paid? Are you really that big of a cuck that you blindly trust management not to waste shareholder profits? LMAO

>>56462458
>I overpay my taxes every year and intentionally take as few deductions as possible or none at all if I can because I know uncle Sam needs the money
out of all the retards i have seen in /smg/ throughout the years, this might be the biggest helmet wearer of them all.

>>56462485
Heh, she actually is underage.
Where's the "you're a pedo" guy from last week?

>>56462372
When shit hits the fan, merica actually owns Microsoft. Just look at nvidia and how they tell them what to do. Imagine not living in usa. Lmao

>futes

>>56462454
not if growth outlook is looking shit, like TI let us know yesterday. Powell repeatedly said that growth will slow, yet the valuation has yet to follow with lower PE...

>>56460564
ya if you can maintain the flatness or slow ascent. they're excellent for overly optimistic sentiment. Its the same risk profile as a put, but the math works a little differently on the back end.
You do want to slide the calls down as it accellerates downwards b/c the volatility just gets thick.
if you get lucky and get a bear triangle and the end of the downmove or a long wedge you'll have made a killing. the major problem is quick rebounds taking out the new calls.

i thought you guys said tech would open green

>>56462604
>When shit hits the fan,
Nothing ever happens.
>merica actually owns Microsoft.
Wrong way around.
>Imagine not living in usa. Lmao
Yes, imagine living in an actual nation with borders and traditions instead of over paying to live in a dying economic zone.

>>56462622
Texas Instruments =/= The Semiconductor Sector. I also just find it completely ridiculous when these companies report making over $4 billion in 3 months but somehow that's bearish lmao.

>>56462646
America is the greatest because we consoom. Or more so have the ability to consoom. Yurop still squeezing multiple generations in the same apt Anne Frank style. Gtfo

>>56462684
But it’s on soxl holdings. I like your =\=. Does not so hard to type

>>56462696
>America is the greatest because we consoom
This is only great if all you want to do with your life is consume garbage from China and even that's coming to an end.
>but it's worse in Europe
Both have the same problem, both could solve their problem by just kicking the browns out.

>>56462684
Buy NVDA $600 calls and forget about them

>>56462707
You're right, and I also find it absurd that a single holding in SOXX/SOXL caused such a big downward move while the other 95% of the underlying were green for the day. I'm convinced that Big Money is super long on semis/Big Tech but they don't want to let retail get in for cheap so they have to keep fudding it to death, even if it's completely irrational.

"You can't own this deer. So now we have to kill it"
I fucking hate cops

Baggies, how are we feeling today?

>>56462707
based newfaggot too retarded to see that =/= is used interchangeably for years on 4chan

>>56462773
>I fucking hate cops
Fuck those pigs.

>>56462714
It’s the greatest because we have the ABILITY to consume. Am I actually having to defend “more money per person is good” in a stock market forum? What kind of mental gymnastics do you do on the daily to cope with your lot in life?

>>56462781
Eh I’ve been around awhile. Just cranky this morning.

>>56462773
i can't take anyone seriously that says that cops deserve rights.
>not ALL cops are bad!
yes, they are.

Oil brothers we bottom on Friday with XOM & CVX earnings right?

>>56462796
Eat some hash browns they always make me feel better. It's 830 am here I've been up for 1hour

Oh look, I am here again...
Good morning Sirs

>>56462850
I can't take anyone seriously that says "Black Lives Matter". Only white lives matter.

>>56461883
>Unless you work in retail or some shit, then guess what fag, maybe should've invested into an education
Or live with family lol

>>56462855
It will never stop looking bad that they are underperforming the previous year even though those oil prices were exceptional and these are still good.

>>56462622
I'm a semifag and I can tell you shit's fucked for a while. Market have been betting on "it's gonna better in 2024" but looks like it ain't happening
only outlier is AI, but AI is a small subset of semi

>>56462538
You don't outperform major indexes. Imagine picking "value" stocks when you lose alpha to SPY, even with dividends reinvested. LMAO.

>>56462554
You're still poor. And what's funny is that you actually looked up the supposed age of an AI generated character. That's weird, coomer.

>>56462873
mean for >>56462684

>>56461379
the 5 year is next election cycle. people really want surety then

>>56462454

Its possible we've hit the bottom but with the people driving this ship.... but I doubt it.

>>56462857
Thx anon

>>56462873
Governments all over the world are printing money to invest in semiconductors. I've been hearing the same shit about "ohh there are gonna be headwinds for semis next year!!!" since 2020, meanwhile the companies have made billions and billions every quarter. I just don't believe the fud anymore, tech is the way forward and eventually the market will stop shidding and farding over stupid headlines.

It's like everybody forgot Powel is going to open his mouth next week and send us back to the stone age, but at least there won't be any cops so that loser who says all cops are bad will be free to sell his drugs.

>per our Tier1 Alpha Gamma & Options data, dealers have to HEDGE $1.2 BILLION per SPX Index POINT and Vol Control Funds would be sellers of another $7-8 BILLION on another -1% SPX decline

reminder we are still in negative gamma zone for options dealers (buy the rip, sell the dip)

SPX flip line to positive gamma is ~4364

good luck out there today

It appears as if those TLT put options I purchased yesterday are going to be worth more money today. That's good for equities today, but bad for equities tomorrow.

>>56462920
Powell is literally going to come out and imply that everything is fine, and not hike rates anymore. Markets will moon accordingly.

>>56462932
Too much jargon. Doesn't matter unless you can explain it to a layperson.

>>56462919
>eventually the market will stop shidding and farting over headlines
My chicken wing in KFC the entire market is just algos listening for keywords in those goofy headlines

>>56462963
>Powell is literally going to come out and imply that everything is fine, and not hike rates anymore. Markets will moon accordingly.
Kek this.

>>56462963
And then they'll get to the Q&A segment and he'll spill his spaghetti and we'll whipsaw accordingly.

>Mr. Powell, what are you going to do about the Jews?
uhh well uhh 2% inflation and maximum employment. We are monitoring the situation with the Jewish people and uhhhh while there is uncertainty in the situation we are maintain our goals.

>>56462865
Jews aren't white.

>>56462977
Except he just read this shitpost and will now not do that so it'll just be gongoin' uppies

>>56462963
>Powell is literally going to come out and imply that everything is fine, and not hike rates anymore. Markets will moon accordingly.
And the prices of goods and services will skyrocket as the gougers and debasers go insane, the consumer will be gigaheemed and everything will start shidding and farding.

Why u niggers keep replying to tripfags

>>56462991
we're whiter than you, the exchange rate is like 20 to 1 retard.

>>56463000
Checked. Also will I finally be able to afford zoomer pussy?

>>56462963
>Powell is literally going to come out and imply that everything is fine, and not hike rates anymore.
Makes no sense. If everything is okay he would not close the door on further hikes. Especially since the job market is still hot af. No way he will imply they are done. He will say they are data-driven, like he always does.

>>56462879
SPY and dividend stocks are intertwined.

>>56461720
>TMF, COIN (MARA if you feel brave), CCJ, UNG
>TMF
stopped reading there, lol have fun losing money today kiddo, my TLT puts are going to print, thanks for playing.

>>56463023
>Especially since the job market is still hot af.
until 60 days after when the reported numbers are revised in half every fucking time.

>>56462945
>Too much jargon. Doesn't matter unless you can explain it to a layperson.

No. if you are a "layperson" and can't understand what i wrote, then you should not be trading real money. you should just get a job and contribute to a retirement account because you're too fucking stupid to do real trading

>>56462932
I've seen you quite often with your gamma zone. can you tell how you pull out this info? how do you draw the flip line?

>>56463013
Jews are to whites like trannies are to women. You will never be either no matter how much you try bagster

>>56463006
If we ignore baggie he just shits up the majong general so we're taking one for the team. Plus he's not that bad

>>56463035
nobody cares about the reality. job market strong is the mantra they repeat every meeting.

>>56463049
at least israel protects its fucking borders

>>56463015
Maybe bussy but pussy will demand a premium.

>>56463023
But the data actually does point to inflation cooling significantly, and if "the job market is hot af" for three years in a row then maybe that's just how it is and the US job market has a permaboner. I dunno man, I think the Fed has overtightened on purpose just to hammer it home and now they're going to start relaxing "to keep longer-term inflation readings in line with our predetermined expectations".

>>56463057
Shill or retard.

I had 5 liters of beer at Hofbräuhaus last night. My previous record was 4. According to an online BAC calculator, I won't even reach ~0.08 until 5pm today.

>>56463057
>But the data actually does point to inflation cooling significantly

>>56462932
What website to look at market gamma?

The fuck is going on in here?

mumu.....

>>56463044
>can you tell how you pull out this info? how do you draw the flip line?
you have to pay Mike Green for it

>>56463079

Sorting options by the delta of the delta.... maybe just buy itm/atm and worry about one thing less ?

>>56460871
is the double top forming on the Nasdaq not important?

>>56460871
>http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
this link no longer works

need a new bb link plz

>>56463071
My record is like around the same except I had 13 shots of hard liqueur before drinking beer. First and last time I had to shit and puke at the same time.

>>56463079
>What website to look at market gamma?
it's not free. see >>56463095

Tier 1 Alpha publishes it so you can look them up

>>56463030
Again, you still haven't refuted my point. You don't outperform SPY due to the large cap growth stocks. And I've argued for QQQ earlier in this thread which you can see. Honestly just go back to your general which will die out in a week or so. You have nothing of "value" to offer. Post your 5 year chart before replying back. 10 year if you're old enough. Let's see how you've outperformed SP 500 and Nasdaq 100.

>>56463130
Thanks

Ummm... Why are yields up? Didn't the bond king just cover the short yesterday?

test

>>56463057
this man trusts the government to do math.

>>56463171

>>56463071
I think this thing is wrong. It looks like it assumes that you consumed it all at the same from the "Time Since First Drink". It always says I should be in the hospital. My symptoms align more with a 0.20.
https://www.calculator.net/bac-calculator.html

>>56463057
>But the data actually does point to inflation cooling significantly
this almost sounds as bad as the retards that say they have brought inflation down as it continues to grow without stopping or reversing.

>>56463165
Just because he stopped selling doesn't mean everybody else stopped. 33 trillion dollars of bonds out there nobody wants, along with Grandma Yellen selling more that nobody wants.

SOXL is right on VWAP on the 1yr chart and SOXX is right on the 200 dma. This is either the bottom or we're totally shitting the bed

>>56463066
>>56463073
>>56463173
I don't trust the government to do anything other than consistently do whatever it takes to remain in power and keep the US as the biggest dick on the playground, which definitely includes not allowing the economy to implode

we gunna go -1% red then flip neon green eod

Sell everything you own and put it in the Russell at open. This is financial advice.

>>56463055
Israel officially doesn't have permanently defined borders.

>>56463198

>>56463202
Glory be, small caps shall inherit the market

OXY is such a piece of shit, fuck you Warren Buffet

>>56463185
If I assume that I metabolize 1 12-oz drink per hour (not accounting for tolerance) then I get 0.24. That sounds about right.

>CNOOC average realized price for Natural Gas (US$/mcf) 7.55.
I guess the Chinks are selling us gas fellow yuropoors.

>>56463252
~0.08 at ~8:30 am. Good to work bois.

If you are not balls deep in Crox before November the 2nd you will not make it. This is financial advice

>>56463202
>>56463198
too soon to buy small caps for trading. still bearish. if you're long-term investing though it might be OK provided they dont go bankrupt

>>56463284
It's too late to buy calls with current IV levels. Now is a good time to start selling puts

>>56463057
>>56463173
Job market data is actually pretty ugly if you look closely post (((revisions))). We're definitely pretty close to deflation.

>>56463299
Crocs is 2xing before christmass break after the convo of spectacular sales and the cowboy boots becoming a meme

>AAPL

>>56462879
>You're still poor.
I'm not?
>And what's funny is that you actually looked up the supposed age of an AI generated character.
No? It's a famous Disney character, everyone knows she's 14.
>That's weird, coomer.
Meh. Younger girls are more attractive.

>>56463313
>We're definitely pretty close to deflation

>>56463323
>PYPL
I've sure picked a winner

>>56463299
>might be OK provided they dont go bankrupt
Shhhiiieeeett son! the BANKS are about to go bankrupt!(BoA)

>>56463326
Buddy look at the DXY computer.

Literally every time I get into a trade the market reverses. It doesn't matter what direction things are going, I will ALWAYS get reversed on

*BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG

DXY could be consolidating before it goes even higher

>>56463348
i recommend a job at mcdonalds, a lot less pressure, and hardly any expectation. you were a no call no show yesterday

Holy fuck my GOOG puts.

>get into trade
>get whipsawed immediately
I'm so fucking sick of this shit. Why can't you faggots pick a fucking direction and commit to it. I'm going to turn schizo with how often this happens. I could pick the most perfect setup imaginable and I would still get whipsawed.

>>56463361
bought or sold?

Feels good to be in uranium

+200% return on my TLT put options.

>>56463348
It's Joever for real this time

>>56463371
Just sold them (to close, I was long.)
I had LEAPs that I wasn't expecting to print until next year. They went up 300% already.

>>56463361
congrats

>>56463369
first day on wall street? welcome

>>56463348
YOU SON OF A BITCH, WHY DID YOU OPEN THE MARKETS?! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>NQ selling off
>the moment I short is the exact moment the 1 minute chart prints a green candle

>>56463390
Anon I've passed close to 10 trading combines at this point but every time I get into trades lately I get fucking jewed out of my position before the directional move continues like I predicted

>>56463348
you did not post on time

Anyone else feel that the tides of propaganda cannot keep people ignorant to the health of the market?

>>56463369
If you're buying something, it means someone is selling it to you... if you're selling something it means someone is buying it from you. It takes two to tango, or something like that.

>>56463115
Pluto tv has Bloomberg. And you can stream for free in a browser. The app is nice too.

the fuck is this shit? i check 1 minute after market open and shit is already 1% down and gigaoversold? how am i supposed to trade anything if the movement happened before i even got to fucking trade

>>56463424
>short 4 contracts on the NQ
>the entire stock market sees this one order and decides to start buying

>>56463115
I like yahoo or schwab better than bloomberg

How Low can we go Goog goys?

man we like a month from the balckswan... i think the santa rally slaughter this year may not save the market this quarter.

>>56463440
thats how mafia works™

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1liiiNVI18

Lmfao so Google beat, Microsoft beat, and Texas instruments makes $4 billion every 3 months but we're gonna sell off. Fucking gay ass market.

>>56463395
How tight is your stop? It went straight down since the open, you should have made it.

>>56463456
10 points

>>56463440
>has no idea that the implied moving average for this week is the biggest it has ever been
>massive earnings coming out
>loads of bearish data

>>56463448
its up 50% for the year so 30% would be possible

>>56463299
I see what he's seeing and it sounds plausible but market conditions mean you will need 30+ dte for comfort. I would say 45-60dte just to be safe. Good Play.

>>56463439
maybe someone saw your order, but everybody actually saw microsoft beat and the algos fucked up the google move so they decided to start buying

>>56463440
futures, the phone, Never™ Sell,

>>56463463
That's not too bad, that was about the average 5min premarket range

Bobos, might this finally be our market?

GOOGL is history. Sundar Pichai destroyed that fucking company and turned it into Cultural Marxist think thank. It’s over.

>>56463467
The whole market sees 1 order for 4 short contracts and decides that is the moment to start pumping

>>56463464
>loads of bearish data
...where?

uhmmm, VZ bros?!!!

>>56463484
>start pumping
what market are you watching?

>>56463483
I can't believe how well I called that I opened that position just the other day. That's probably my peak, I'm not going to ever make a better trade.

Okay bobo that's enough for today you did your job. Bobo?

>>56463463
>>56463479
If you're trading 4 contracts risking 4x10, why not trade 1 with a 40 point stop unless you're doing some extremely tight scalping?

>>56463509
I could be saying this but I wanted to wait post market today with amazon and meta. I bet they get crushed...

>>56463484
I didn't see your order. Yet I still went long. I think you're attributing your misfortune to some kind of psychotic bullshit, when the reality is you're just being retarded and should have been on the buy side.

>>56463455
People are rotating into safe assets like BTC and XAU honey.

>>56463509
I exited before earnings at a profit when I saw all of the shit Microsoft was up to, meanwhile Google is probably trying to find a way to hire Jazz Jennings.

>AMZN tanking on no news


SLURRRRRPPPPPPPPPPP

TIME IN THE MARKET BEATS TIM-ACKKK!!

>>56463466
i guess you could argue we're testing some support right here, but i think the russell could break and go lower and that shouldnt surprise anyone. if you want to do small caps, you're probably better off going with individual stocks over the index

>>56463455
it's New Valuation time (tm), no growth edition
get on with it. average PE should be 10

>>56461045
lmao will is such a cuck

>>56463165
It’s primarily Japan and China selling their treasuries to prop their currencies up while Yellen dumps treasuries repeatedly to fund the US government. Ackman is nothing in comparison to the US Treasury, the Bank of Japan, and the People’s Bank of China

>>56461960
>sbb
Who?

>tfw bought the millennial top
NOOOO
CURSE YOU, BOBO

Holy shit it’s joever

>>56461980
>Trusting gypsies

I don't get how VIX is that low today. Seems like a trap.

>>56463572
brkb is going up.

>Alphabet -7.97%

Holy shit. Bard even offers a similar service to GPT4 for free.

>>56463576
VIX doesn't do anything anymore - thank 0DTE enjoyers.

>>56461980
Is Romania the future of Europe?

soxl drilling a hole lmao

>>56463581
>Bard even offers a similar service to GPT4 for free.
And that's a good thing?

>>56463581
I kind of wish I waited to sell my puts now, it just keeps going.
God damn.

Abandon your longs!
Flee flee for you liquidity

>>56463542
I agree, I find that IWM will lead larger indices in some seasons but I don't think we're in one. Will likely take weeks to bounce if we do. I think we're sensitive territory with some unprecedented conditions which I guess are mostly debt and retards I guess. I may go into this after fed talk or take a small position.

>google earnings beats estimate, some other part grew not as much as was hoped
>all of my REITs and BDCs dump

It's just not fair.

>>56463360
sorry boss
>>56463380
>>56463391
>>56463411

>>56463581
I thought they posted a double beat? I bought calls on this dip, like what the fuck, google knows more about everybody than the federal government for fuck's sake.

I brought sqqq on Friday,
I felt like a dummy the last two days.
Now I feel smart

seems like QQQ is finally finding some footing
really hope we get to 357 again so i can short

>>56463508
>>56463526
I'm being sarcastic. I'm also referring to the long ass wicks these candles randomly put in as faggots cover shorts before the selloff.
>>56463520
I'm going for scalps, I need big wins fast and would rather not wait for 1 contract to go for 60+ points

i called meat ceo today. he said aaron, we are going to 280 today. its the beginning of the end. meta is DOWNHILL.

How are my GOOG NFT holders doing? How’s that reinvested capital that should have been shareholder profits working out for you. Fucking baggies

>>56463640
Google is down on fundamentals.

>>56463636
Amazon Meta probably gunna flip hard tonight.

>>56463617
Imagine if the US Federal Government nationalised Alphabet Inc

>>56463549
High interest rates bring prices closer to reality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nOsXrfUtgw
Memearino told ya it was comin!

annnddd new home sells are???

Hello.

SUNCHAR YOU BLADDY BASTARD

>>56463628
>not wait for 1 contract to go for 60+ points
>wait
that would have been about 10 minutes today, 15 if your entry was particularly bad

>>56463675
just rewatched that a day ago. still kino.

>10Y bond yields hit support at 4.800% after plunging
>Rising to 4.895% today, on track to the mid 4.9s range today

5+% is inevitable. It cannot be stopped.

>>56463662
alphabet calls are printing ^_^

if this shit recovers to $130 before the end of day i'm taking gookfu out for a crab dinner

There is no reason today should be red.

>>56463649
Yep. Can’t believe people hold that turd. Muh growth fags are retarded

>>56463696
the third largest company in the world has dropped 10%

New sales up
Building permits down
market still selling off

>>56463698
It doesn't validate the dividend thing though.

>>56463698
even with the 10% hair cut, they're up like 40% on the year compared to 9% on the SPY. who's the retard now?

>>56463696
The stock market is a function of the bond market (which is tanking).

>>56463692
Its almost like the system broke on monday and everything since has been a rat race and a scramble.

>>56463707
>New sales up
Jayhawk just penciled in another hike

>>56463711
Yes it does and it’s coke yo suggest otherwise. They could have returned massive amounts of cash to the shareholders. Instead they invested it back into the company with no gain. They have great FCF but where the fuck does it all go

NGL gonna lie, this market makes me want to dust off Rollercoaster Tycoon

>>56463735
If you bought in the 60s and sold now that's a pretty massive gain.

Buy the dip (short the VIX*)

>>56463735
>Instead they invested it back into the company with no gain
Are you going to pretend that investing in gool hasnt yielded any gains vs a dividend investment like T? Because you are stupid.

>>56463649
>Omg only 22% growth in cloud computing instead of 28% growth, the horror
Bears are stupid, it will be bought back up immediately

>>56463769
Everything else has clearly peaked. They're killing YouTube and search by trying to become a news paper. People liked them because of the utility and they're throwing it away.

>>56463766
I like you have to bring up a mediocre investment like T and disregard the big dividend guys. Hell Microsoft is one of the best divvy companies on the planet and you have to cope about T. Did you know there is also underperforming growth stocks?

>>56463095
SVOL is a scam I want my G'DAM MONEY BACK

>>56463793
Don't we all, anon. But the market, she's a harsh mistress.

>>56463769
It's actually pretty absurd. All this red for three months straight on shit like that - overblown nothingburgers every week that just get shorted to death. Great job retail, give Big Money the sale they wanted. Gay fucking market.

HAHAHAHA

Baking

>>56463822
Bottoms in

Short bonds.

>>56463828
This is the final one. Too many mumus have roped, and us Bobos are too cool to waste time baking for crybaby mumus

335 posts
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>>56463845
you better hope Goog doesnt heal by end of day...

I capitulated

SOXL bros I thought semiconductors were crack in all but name. What happened? How are we down 44% in the last 2 months??

>the lord is thy Shepard and I shall not want

>>56463869
Oh hell naw

>>56463864
pathetic

>>56463860
I wouldn't really care if it did, most of my plays are snibby plays actually, I just want QQQ to stay near $355 so my butterflies keep growing exponentially

I am 100% convinced everyone is fucking overreacting like a fucking retard at this point.

Buy cheapies.

>>56463769
>Omg only 22% growth in cloud computing instead of 28% growth
lol thats what i'm laughing at. like the ad business which is their largest sector beats, but the stock tanks -8% because the cloud business was only up 22% instead of 28%. that's retarded in a longer-term timeframe

>>56463869
Wow, you really did go full bull there. Good thing the capitol you're about to blow up is extremely replacable.

>greek yogurt went from 1,65 to 1,85 in few weeks
Wtf hike more.

>>56463879
Great buying opportunity for Google though

>>56463879
Because they were pricing in higher growth, so now they're overvalued.

>>56463878
Nope, it's over, gg

>>56463879
It was supposed to beat 28% because of the AI that ends all problems ever created and the super duper fancy chips that come with the AI, not fall below it

>>56463878
I'm extremely convinced the clown market we were dealing with the last 6 months or so is about to end and we're welcoming back fundamental analysis

>>56463932
That's a good one. The clown market hasn't even begun

Please for the love of God someone bake

Feds about to use their "tool"

baked


>>56463955
>>56463955
>>56463955

New
>>56457577
>>56457577

>>56463959
>>56463960
Lol

Uranium chads don't give a fuck about wider market conditions - everyone is gonna need electricity

>>56463959
>>56463960

bros wtf did etoro just go down????

>>56463662
I would probably need to move to some country that doesn't have an extradition treaty with the US. Just to be sure

>>56463868
Bag holding 500 shares at $18-19. Let the casino close me out.

Searchable /smg/
>>56464096

Proper bread
>>56464108

>>56463877
>snibby plays
You're not a real Bobo. You disgust real Bobos

>>56463879
The problem is the growth in all these highly leveraged tech companies has to outpace the increase in long term interest rates. Higher for longer is becoming less and less of a meme every day and the treadmill these growth companies are running on is moves ever faster against them