/biz/ - Business & Finance

Attention all shills
The markets won't open tomorrow. You heard it here first. They will blame it on hacking but in reality this gme shit has created a liquidity crisis that has spread like a cancer through the entire system. Emergency measures will be taken to reliquify the market and when it finally does open gme will shoot to 1000+. Screenshot this if you disbelieve
At latest by tomorrow is the announcement: BBBYQ will merge with Teddy.
BBBYQ buyout: $25 per share + equity in Teddy.
Rumours are GME is involved in this transaction as well.

If end of week there is nothing, I'll delete my shares live on stream for all the shills to see.

First for
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>56375831
see
>>56372141
>>56372173

why is all the manufacturing in tech?
the AI hype is real isn't it?

Dividend champions what a great previous thread. We dispelled some common misconceptions about dividend investing and introduced people to the concept of yield on cost and the importance of dividend growth

>>56375855
That depends...

I thought buying puts to hedge was the smart thing to do over the weekend anons... Not like this.

Can you fucking believe they're starting to securitize music royalties? What the fuck kind of shark jumping is this shit? It's unbelievable what lengths these assholes will go to just to jew every last person.

>he baked

>>56375831

>>56375855
>This kills the semi-fudders

House always wins. Bottom is in, they will do what ((they)) want to.

>>56375869
Sorry bout that

>>56375848
I had some freemason try and get me into jnj when it hard dipped in 2020. I need to start taking good advice.

Face-Melting Melt-Up Commence At direction of the fed.

Don’t sleep on hormel foods. This stuff is keeping poors alive and hormel has increased their dividend every year for the last 57 years

>>56375809
I look at Reddit too fgt

Schwab profits y/y kek

>>56375912

>>56375923
:(

>>56375909
what happened on the 12th?

Max Pain today:
QQQ $367
SPY $434
Check anything else:
https://swaggystocks.com/dashboard/options-max-pain/spy

>>56375933
Based

>>56375933
another helpful website, to look at the same thing, just slightly different interface (helpful sometimes)
https://maximum-pain.com/options/SPY

>>56375933
cool 437c 0dte it is, max pain just lets you know exactly where it won't close, above or below always but never on.

We're going to dump so hard today.

Wonder why this chart looks so weird... Who runs this shitty company.

>>56375831
What is your twitch tag so we can keep you to your word

>>56375957
We can't dump yet or its Joeober. Fed will buy shits in backdoor deals. Never capitulating.

>>56375855
Yes. Specific type of machine learning are overhyped but training models on for example weather data to make forecasts even slightly better would be worth tens of billions. Reducing staff at call centers by 50% would save huge sums. Transcribing video would be a great thing for industrial safety, the cameras would be able to see machines in IR and in motion amplification, hear the noises it makes, observe user behavior, etc. and preemptively shut down machines before catastrophic failures or notify needs for repairs and maintenance.

>>56375957
we pump first

Dis place be deader den a mafucka mane

>>56375869
hedges always get smoked when too many people pile on one side

>>56375909
Herdez makes a good salsa and Spam, eggs, and rice is a fantastic breakfast.

don't open the market yet! i have to apply for unemployment benefits

Yeah Americans are literally being poisoned by their food supply. Atrazine, growth hormones, phthalate plasticisers, DDT, diethylstilbestrol, all packaged in BPA and printed on receipts covered in xenoestrogenic mineral oil aromatic hydrocarbons.

In the USA you WILL be fat unless you're incredibly careful with your food and hit the gym 4-5 times a week. It's criminal really.

Is this it? Is this all you can conjure SOXLman?

>>56375855
It's because America is bringing back its semiconductor industry to derisk from manufacturing in other countries.

>>56376009
Based herdez enjoyer. I will have some today on my breakfast tacos made with HEB butter tortillas.

>>56376012
at least the titties are fatter too

>>56376011
Technically that's inside information. That's 1 more future unemployment number that isn't publicly known we now know.

Now anyone that trades today that reads your post is guilty of an insider trading conspiracy to commit fraud

>>56375988
>>56375966
Even hardcore democrat normalfags are catching onto the scam. The government is faking all the economic numbers and this shit is about to come crashing down. The emperor has no clothes.

I just started shorting "Germany Mid 50", will add $1000 every day

>>56376012
All you have to do is walk about 15 minutes a day and not live off DoorDash and soda. IMO the advertising is worse than the chemicals.

>>56376026
yeah, on men. women's tits just go flat and saggy

>>56376035
did i say "apply for unemployment benefits"? i meant "gotta make breakfast"

cucked again oilbros

2 Corinthians 9:8

And God is able to bless you abundantly, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work.

Load up on NHMD at the open and never work a real job ever again.

im gonna test buy more.

t. pro money loser

I've looked 5 minutes into the future. it's not good /smg/ bros.

>>56375932
looks like wagies demanding a raise.

>>56376035
Unemployment is going to absolutely spike. Everyone in tech is getting canned, even productive people. Stack Overflow just announced they're laying off something like 1/4 of their people.

>>56376055
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA...
Wait a minute, does it recoover in 10 mins?

WTF WAS THAT

*BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG

WTFWT

>>56376067
I'm limited to 5 minutes a day. I can't say.

>>56376073
you're not even trying anymore are you?

Come on futures! Score some fackin goals!

BUDDY, LOOK AT BTC
WHAT THE FUCK

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>56376055
wtf everything is fine now

>>56376091
Weeeeeee

MARA +11% OOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I'm up $40 already. I might go to the corner store and get some ice cream.

>>56376091
it appears SEC approved the ETF??

ORLEN BROTHERS WHAT THE ACTUALL FUCK???

>>56376114
Buy a $370 0DTE call on QQQ with it

Pic related

>>56376131
Lol.

There are literally entire brigades of the US military posting on stock market forums, trying to get retail to FOMO into the market while big banks dump on them.

>>56376144
i'm not proud of it but it puts food on the table

we are fading the rest of the day aren't we?

>>56376144
Yeah pretty much
You know what was crazy? When the conflict first began October 7-9 - first few days, all the shills stopped posting
Almost as if they suddenly became occupied, needing to devote more attention elsewhere controlling narratives

>>56376157
probably

My FNKO is mooning
My routers are mooning.

>>56376157
Not a chance bobo

>>56376157
Yes

Bobo wants to join the party, please let him in outta the cold, he will behave, he promises

CAN THE RUSSLE PLEASE STOP SHITTING ITSELF FOR ONE DAY PLEASE GOD DAMN IT

imagine being one of those who shorted on friday's close because muh weekend happening

>>56376202
Nope, never, that's bobos only safe space

:P

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

how do i profit of BTC whales dumping their stack through spot etfs

>yields

>>56376248
Puts on MARA

>>56376120
I think is just rumor - turned out to be false - not sure what spiked the rumor

Thread theme. They just dont know it yet.
https://youtu.be/4aIYWFu1w7k?si=-kfWP1f4fvtNtYri

>>56376213
Yeah, imagine, lol.

>>56376251
>Dame da ne dame yo dame na no yo

>>56376266
a pump and dump

Alright. I exited my puts. Any bear thesis regarding this war is fundamentally flawed. Also nothing ever fucking happens. I'll see all my fellow bears on the next nothingburger.
I would have held through this earnings week, but theta was starting to fuck my ass.

Well, in the mean time, time to go maker a toffenut coffee with french vanilla creamer and have a smoke, please don't crash the market yet I'll only be gone a few mins

imagine being one of those who bought in the first 10 minutes after open

If you all honestly believe instability in the worlds litter box is bullish, I feel bad for your inexperience.

>>56376293
anon please just use real cream and not the canola oil "creamers" that you get that don't even need to be refrigerated

>>56376292
There’s still time for the rally but you wont

>>56376290
50 cents have been deposited into your account. Thank you for your service to your country.

>>56376290
The bear thesis was never about the war silly, war is bullish, we've been talking about the bonds.

>>56376290
Finally someone sees the light

>>56376290
You're dumb.
You still don't understand that the conflict was allowed to happen, essentially as a false flag, in order to create a bid for bonds.
Israel was warned 3 days in advance, let it happen. The conflict is real - but it was allowed to create a bid for bonds.
Now it is turning out to be nothingburger - they are selling the bonds again.
It is because "nothing ever happens" that bonds will continue to sell off.
If yields continue to go higher, we will see the financial accident.

You best start believing in sovereign debt crises. You're in one.

>>56376300

All in on OIL and GOLD.

Not even worried.

Can we not fucking chop again

Bond market crash.

>>56376302
Is there any good hazelnut out there that isn’t full of motor oil/machining lubricant ?

those are some big bars

>>56376319
Is your brain so pozzed that everything is related in your stringtheoried brain?

>>56376343
anything darigold is usually good.

JingDong Ticker: JD BROTHERS WHERE YOU AT?

>>56376343
Tell your wife to stop buying shit at hobby lobby.

>>56376351
The bigger they are….

EVERY FUCKING MOVE IS REVERSED

my poorfolio is down 58% all time..

positive is im going sideways for 40 days.

>amzn
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>56376353
Is YOUR brain so pozzed that you lick the boots of
>the media
>the US government
>Israel
You are extremely naive. The intervention has failed. First central banks attempted to intervene every morning on low liquidity for a week to bid for bonds - this failed, fundamental market forces sold the bonds, again and again
They got desperate, false flag, create a bid for bonds. But even this is failing. You do not understand how close we are to the edge of destruction - we will see hundreds if not thousands of banks fail if yields continue to move higher. They are extremely desperate to create a bid for bonds.
The entire international community is refusing to bid for US bonds.
If you doubt anything that I am saying, google it yourself. I'm not making shit up.

You guys. MNTS is gaining momentum! Space travel is big again

>>56376359
Based. Looking for/ordering some of this today.

I just use sugar, cocoa and heavy cream atm but I love hazel nut just worried about the edomite owners of said creamer establishment.

>>56376372
All in JD you will double in a couple of months.

>>56376343
Who the fuck puts up letters that spell what season we're in? What mental illness does one need to have to do such a thing? Dementia?

>>56376343
>bro finally doxxed himself
good job

Why is the market not allowed to pick a direction and actually move in that direction?

>>56376376
You are legit pozzed and I’ll inverse your thesis everytime. P.s. I bought SPY 430p 10/23.

>>56376343
Family with a dog napping on couch. Based.

Can we fucking flush down mumus already so I can enter

>>56376388
The poors.

>>56376403
You're agreeing with him.

>>56376403
if you want to inverse me, you should be going long. they have failed to control the bond sell off.

>>56376343
You got your kids in that picture. Or you are the kid posting their families house. In either case, what the fuck are you doing? Saved picture for future memeing

they wont let high interest and yields take them down. they would crash the economy to break the consumer and labour before it breaks them.

>>56376302
So just buy cream? Is it next to butter or milk or what? Serious question idk much about it

>>56376424
We are on the same boat for different reasons. When we both make it ensure it was because war never changes and not because the I James double quarter pounder your sister

>he thinks yields -3% below inflation are high

>>56376376
Can't the banks just get bailed out with BTFP?

>>56376419
Welp. Broken clocks and whatnot

>>56376459
HAHAHAHAHA!

>>56376144
Yeah, makes total logical sense. US military is working for Wall St and taking with expert knowledge on money yes I see it.
>>56376290
>fundamentally flawed
No bear thesis here is seriously about the war, we've always said it's about the yield curve and collapsing bond prices.

>minor push up to break the sideways trend
>sells off
>looks like it'll put another leg up
>sells off again
This faggoty shit is retarded. Bulls and bears have no balls and refuse to take control in either direction

>>56376459

>-3%

Imagine believing the narrative

>>56376481
That’s because you are ignoring snibs. Who is in control.

>>56376459
Buddy, it's not about the exact %
It's about the bonds that already exist on the banks balance sheets, it's the refinancing of debt that now everyone has to do at these high rates
Zombie companies are billions in debt, not generating enough cash flow in order to refinance - they will go bankrupt either by being refused the loan outright (as banks everywhere are tightening lending) OR they will not be able to afford their debt service
Bank of America, for example, sitting on more than $100 billion in bond losses
https://www.ft.com/content/df4f343c-5666-43a2-ba01-ef315bfb119a
Bank of America's market cap is $213 billion, for perspective
Do you not remember the UK pension funds blowing up last Fall? Same thing

>>56376481
My double diagonals are doing good. What's some other short to medium term crab plays?

>>56376489
So just like every other day when these subhumans decide they're too scared to make a directional move

Good morning, schizos.

>>56376416
Wealthy people can pay someone to tell them what season it is, amirite?

>>56376481
i don't dislike crab days per se but i fucking hate when the crabs amount to 0.1% movements up and down
how are you fucking supposed to make money like this

I scooped some ALDX calla for .55 cents this morning, they are now 2.5 kek.
also, buy ADXN.

>>56376490
Okay and? You have been sleeping under a rock for the last couple months? BTFP is a thing since March.

>>56376520
by selling premium, duh
eg. selling a put, selling a call

>>56376520
buy and hold, or become a bondnigger

>>56376522

What kind of shit penny stock is this

print, Jerome, print.

>>56376290
thanks for playing

>>56376526
Lmao. As of 10/16 BTFP is $108 billion.
Do you know how big the bond market is, just for the US alone? 50 trillion.
Which is a bigger number?
$50 trillion? Or $108 billion?
>oh they'll just bail out $50 trillion worth of bonds, no problem!
do you know how dumb you sound, to argue that BTFP will save us from this systemic event that is coming
there will of course be bailouts, they will of course do everything that they can - just like 2008 - it won't be enough, and it lags 12-18 months

>>56376560
biotech

>>56376520
Selling covered calls, selling iron condors, buying butterflies, double diagonals, calanders, etc or lazy mode have something like JEPQ/JEPI monthly CC funds or quarterly boomer divvy funds/stonks

oil is trash

Holy shit imagine actually believing that the bond market would fail and the US government wouldn't just come up with some wackadoodle solution overnight

>>56376584

Biotech is always trash. Count me out.

>>56376598
This is the whole point.. it is intentionally being driven to fail, in order to introduce CBDC
>cause crisis
>public cries for solution
>offer solution (that you already had prepared)

>>56376603
>He didn't buy ORLEN.

Bobo, whatchoo gone do? Get up foo

>>56376049
lmao. Seriously hope none of you retards fell for this pumper.

Fuck it. Just went full retard into UPRO and TQQQ.

>>56376604
What would CBDC even provide

Yields are severely suppressed. Considering the downgrade of the US and the interest rates the 10y should be 1% higher, like the 2y is at 2008 levels. With that downgrade it should be even higher.

>>56376612
Why? And thank you for your sacrifice!

>>56376613
Capital control.

>>56376459
uh didn't we achieve the goal of 2% inflation excluding everything that doesn't really count?

>TTOO
its over jeetbros

>>56376613
complete and total control, complete and total information of every single thing, every good and service in the economy, total information advantage and control, if someone acts out - their finances are completely cut off instantly, if the government wants to take money out of your account, they can, complete monetary control, (more) complete inflation control - more control, more debt slavery
it's all a game, in order to meet this end

>>56376613
Funny money with new funny money rules made up on the fly. and tight fiscal control of economy/free market.

>>56376613
Control over everything and everyone, social credit scores to control behavior

>>56376625
Nope.

>>56376613
control (if you still havent understood)

>>56376583
Put your money where your mouth is. Post your shorts anon. You aren't a permabear now are you?

>>56376611
fell for it as in took profits? nope, it will go much higher
some underlying signals i monitor are all looking very good

>>56376621
Cause I don't think we will go below 4200 this year and I'm impatient.

weak pump in europe

>>56375861
Based dividends anon
>>56376144
Who is directing them to do this? It’s not like they would come up with this on their own.
>>56376343
Comfy
>>56376510
Sauce? Does she have only fans?

>>56376613
Make things betterer and some day even betterest

My 3 little peasley $370 QQQ 0DTEs I bought for fun are doing a lil sumpem

>>56376622
>>56376632
>>56376633
>>56376634
>>56376655
I’m ignorant on the subject but isn’t that the case now? Most money is digital entries in a ledger. I guess some amount of the economy is cash, but the banks are in control in the current system (and pull the strings of government).
Is the mitigation of CBDC just.. other crypto? There would be an official CBDC price and a black market BTC (or other?) price

>>56376622
>>56376632
>>56376634
>>56376655
Friendly reminder you don't need CBDC for this. Can be and has been done under current system.

>>56376723
The idea is that they can reject transactions for whatever reason.
So if you try to buy some crypto they can reject that transaction or they can flag you and reject any future transactions you make (similar to what they did with the truckers in Canada.)
We kind of already have this now with KYC.

Bobo is ALWAYS wrong

>>56376659
I have posted my accounts here with timestamp more than 10 times (old picture attached - not going to go and dig up the reports for today) You can look through the archives, too.
I have 4 portfolios, each of this size, 3 of which are being managed by 3 different firms, and then I have my own personal trading account, same size
>You aren't a permabear now are you?
No, of course not. Hence the diversification among asset managers with different views than my own. I also believe that after the financial crisis resolves, there will be a year or two of great opportunities, to buy real assets for great prices (including great companies)
and then after this period, there will be explosive growth, a new 'golden age'
but FIRST, the cycle has to come to an end - it is totally normal, healthy, inevitable, part of the debt cycle - the more we fight against it, the worse it will be

>>56376619
What does this mean for stocks?

Anyone says outerbiz isn't fully fucking retarded, just check it out right now. These dumbfucks fomod on the BTC ETF rumor.

>>56376743
50 cents have been deposited into your account

Market wouldn't just completely reverse now that it has picked direction right? Right??

>>56376723
Instead of dollars every will have to use CBDCs, and like in China, if your social credit score gets too low, by liking the wrong anti government online post, saying something negative about a politician, play more than two hours a week of video games, etc, then you...

...you can't buy a plane/train/bus ticket, can't rent an apartment, can't send your kids to day care, can't get over a level 1 job, can only buy the cheapest food, can't use such and such app, etc etc.

They also have discussed putting expiration dates on funds forcing you to spend them, and only let you spend them in certain ways and other crazy controlling shit

>>56376717
0DTE options you say?

>>56376757
Okay so what are your positions? And what is success rate of the guys managing your money btw?

>>56376777
Trips of truth

bull trap

>>56376791
Bobo cope
>>56376807
It's just the earnings are going to be shit, so to keep crabbing we need to pump right now

>>56376679
Hilarious.

>>56376797
The government just exists to oppress us. They're not even trying to be coy about it anymore.

>>56375946
.24 to .50 not bad maybe i can get something tomorrow too

>>56376798
Yepper, my calls be poompin

>>56376798
do NOT

>>56376763
Not much. The point is money keeps getting injected into system. Inflation will be persistent through this entire decade and stock market may go through wild swings but generally will continue going up.

These are my two cents.

>>56376797
I already have a seaworthy sailboat. If it really sounds like they're doing this I'm moving my whole rollover IRA into bitcoin and sailing to Grenada or Canada or whatever.

>>56376812
>bobo cope
I hope so. I went long.

>>56376812
BAC will beat earnings estimates.

>>56375809
boboBros... i don't feel so good anymore

>>56376803
I'm not posting my trades here. I have posted before my short priority list, and I'll post it again - from this list, you can infer which companies (and of course which sectors) I am shorting the most
ranked by weight of shorting, first = short the most
>XLK (tech)
>XLY (consumer discretionary)
>XLC (communications)
>XLF (financials)
>XLI (industrial)
>XLRE (real estate)
>XLB (materials)
>XLU (utilities)
>XLP (consumer staples)
>XLV (healthcare)
>XLE (energy)
>what is success rate of the guys managing your money btw?
I gauge their success by how much they beat SPX factoring in their expenses - for the last 5 years they have beaten, with 2 exceptions (covid)

>>56376846
If I want to bet on crab can only buy spxl and spxs at what prices should I get in?

I'm thinking go long at 420 Spy and short anything over 440?

>>56376852
Bear markets aren't like bull markets, they're much more volatile. We'll have green days for the next 12-24 months but the overall movement will be down.

>>56376859
I have no idea I'm buying LEAP puts on individual companies.

Bobo bros... How the fuck do we recover?

>>56376867
Lmao my guy the overall movement has been up for a year now, after a broader overal upwards movement for decades before that

>>56376881
+50 cents

>>56376881
opex probably, SKEW went up 6% friday there's no way the market goes down on that. hedges always lose

Stupid ass bear lol

>>56376858
Yup you are deep in red. You should've just said that you know.

My net worth has been flat nominally (so -20%) for the past 2 years btw.

>>56376896
Wait till 1pm.

>>56376881
If you're a true bobo then selling 0dte calls each day

Come on bulls lets crush these NQ bears.

I like to hedge my happiness by going long on woke companies, that way if they tank and I lose money I can at least console myself with the thought of their employees being laid off.

>Citi has massive earnings beat
>stock tanks

?

>>56376881
wait a day lmao

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

>>56376898
>you are deep in red
Buddy.. No. Lol. I started building short positions in August. I was completely transparent about it, posted about it in /smg/ - explained the dynamics of EU waving white flag on monetary policy which would drive dollar higher being the catalyst for topping out
>My net worth has been flat nominally
sorry to hear that

>>56376910
They probably revised their estimates down a few weeks ago so they could say they beat them. WFC did this last week.

>>56376918
things feel really fucking bad in the US, everyone is at their limit

>>56376918
no worries consoomers will just stack more credi card denbts

>>56376918
>to Q1 2023
What is it now

>>56376933
went to a farmer's market yesterday, no one is at their limit, everyone is happy and doing well

Consoom
More slop
More credit
More debt
CONSOOOOOOMMMMM

of course I swing short Friday and get completely BTFO in the most relentless way

>>56376949
They're all just pretending and going into debt

>>56376918
>it's almost like people do not save when they expect inflation to persist

>>56376949
farmer's market is for white hippies and potheads, get real lmao

>>56376918
THE CONSUMER IS RESILIENT!

>>56376898
Be careful who you argue with. That guy called the exact top within 2 points. Sure, he missed the whole rally in the first place and is substantially underperforming the S&P, but he's actually a genius with his all cash portfolio. Naturally, that's why he leaves 75% of his supposed wealth to outside management.

>>56376949
>went to a farmer's market yesterday, no one is at their limit, everyone is happy and doing well

>>56376918
If your student debt resumed you're dragging everyone's average down. The rest of the US is doing fine.

>>56376952
Next time check vix. If it's too high they'll pump the market to liquidate shorts. The stock market is now a giant shitcoin

>>56376965
Heh, yeah. I "saved" but none of it stayed in my bank account, it's all in Etrade and TrowePrice.

I swear I feel like the market hasn't behaved since they made 0dtes everyday. They just crab, rob theta and close where they lose the least money.

>>56376918
>>56376933
>>56376936
HOLY SHIT 2% OF PEOPLE HAVE LESS SAVINGS OH GOD THE WORLD IS ENDING

>>56376964
>everyone is just pretending to be okay financially!!!!
delusion

>>56376967
Farmer's markets represent the fact that typically-poorer farmers can still afford to grow and transport enough high quality food to maintain sales to a clientele with higher than average incomes. Everyone is fine.

>>56376990
And ... There used to be some semblance of continuity between F->M and PM/AH may as well be different tickers. How much longer they gonna keep the party goin ?

HIGHER
FOR
LONGER
LETS GOO

>>56376918
Wow they haven't dipped into their "non excess" savings yet.

>>56376975
>he missed the whole rally in the first place and is substantially underperforming the S&P
I would say overall this statement is fair - the funds that I have under my own personal management (~1/4) are underperforming SPX 1 year (19%)
however my overall performance, factoring in the other managers 3/4 is outperforming - so if anything, it just shows that I'm retarded

>>56377004
If I post what I really think about that I'll get a three day ban.
Lots of "people" in the capital should have their heads decorating the 395 bridge though.

>>56377004
>33T debt
>2T deficit
>let's increase spending
kek

>>56377019
You did call the top though, I'll give you that.

>>56376993
Farmers aren't poor they're one of the most subsidized (spoiled) producers in the country, look at how fat everyone is and tell me producing food lacks demand

>>56377004
1 Israeli life is worth 35 Americans.

Markets will continue higher until every last bear ropes

>>56377035
How many LGBTQ+ BIPOCs is 1 Israeli worth?

>>56376993
>>everyone is just pretending to be okay financially!!!!
unironically, this is what is happening - the entire summer was 'credit card traveling'
https://fortune.com/recommends/banking/despite-higher-costs-americans-are-still-prioritizing-travel/
>May 25, 2023
>Despite higher costs, Americans are still prioritizing travel this summer—even if it means getting creative or taking on new debt
>For families who don’t have the funds to cover their travel costs, the study found that taking on new debt and using alternative payment methods like credit cards and buy-now, pay-later platforms have made it easier to fit trips into their budgets.
>57% of households planned to use their credit card
https://www.pymnts.com/credit-cards/2023/two-thirds-of-consumers-charged-summer-travel-on-their-credit-cards/
>SEPTEMBER 1, 2023
>Two-Thirds of Consumers Charged Summer Travel on Their Credit Cards

Should I cash out my 3 pidley 0DTE calls that are up quite a bit, or gamble for a green mumu dildo raping to continue squeezing bobos?

>>56377050
The bonds that cover your paycheck are turning into worthless toilet paper.

>>56377062
Cash out of one right now, keep the other two.

>>56377055
0.00001

If you bought Microsoft at the end of 2012 you paid $26.71/share You'd have received $19.08/share in dividends. Investors who owned Microsoft for over 10 years have received over 70% of their original investment back in the form of dividends. Microsoft grew FCF/Share from $2.93 in 2013 to $7.99 in 2022.
The valuation multiple increased from 9 times FCF in 2012 to over 40 times FCF in 2023. The 2012 investor is earning an yield on cost of 11.23%

>>56377064
Cry more schizo

>>56377092
No worry
Me fine

>>56377092
I would be polishing that resume right now, if I were you.

It just keeps going

>>56377057
None of that implies that there's some systemic risk to more people simply using credit cards more often. Anecdotally, I've been using credit cards more and more since I get 1-6% back on certain things, and since you can't really do dick in the US without a high credit score. That's kind of what happens when you incentivize credit scoring.

>>56377034
Industrial scale farmers do make tons of money but they aren't the ones at local farmer's markets

Say it with me:
SPEAKER
JIM
JORDAN

>>56377080
>Investors who owned Microsoft for over 10 years have received over 70% of their original investment back in the form of dividends
This sounds really awesome until I remember that I bought PBR 2 years ago and have already received dividends exceeding my cost basis.
But then I had to pay taxes on those dividends. In the end honestly I'd rather just have buybacks.

>>56377094
>"War has erupted in the middle east"
Wow that's seriously some of the most 1984 ministry of truth shit I've ever seen

>>56377075
Ok, 1 cash out, riding the other two (for now)

>>56377109
>None of that implies that there's some systemic risk
quote:
>For families who don’t have the funds to cover their travel costs, the study found that taking on new debt
this is the systemic risk part of it
I agree with you, that overall rates of payment using credit cards is going up, which muddies the data
It is that people are putting themselves into new debt, in order to fund something like a vacation - this is dangerous

>le sigh

I hate mondays

Bears lost.

>>56377151
They have been really TBD ing over there. A real country. I envy them more than trudea does. We need that kinda action in this nation.

Don't forget to congratulate /gme/ on another brand new 52 week low!!!

>>56377133
Not having funds at the time of buying the tickets with the credit card doesn't mean that the funds won't be available in the near future. If "taking on new debt" means "having a credit card balance for a short time before paying it off in full" then there's absolutely nothing to worry about

>>56377062
Never hold 0dtes.

Is that all you got MUMU?

>market already HARD plateauing

you know what happens next, mumu

>>56377176
>-28%
>That's all you got.
Have you tried making money for a change?

>>56376993
Never met a farmer with any net worth that participates in a farmers market. Wouldn’t even call them farmers. Hobbyists more like

>>56376757
Why the fuck do people like you post here? If you're legit which is obviously doubtful even with evidence, it still begs the question why you post here at all? Who are you and if your work found out would you be fired? Because that means you're either law enforcement of some kind (irs or otherwise) or just a really lonely rich dude

RIP

>>56377164
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Folks this bull market sure is something.

>>56377192
just a pit stop anon

>>56377194
he just avg'd down, he will have a some delta coming for the next 25-30 minutes barring a happening of some sorts.

>>56377205
It's like the SWEs that post on /g/. Sometimes it's nice to have a place to speak your mind anonymously. There aren't very many of them left.

>>56377151
We're told international diversification is important, but lots of countries have these short-selling restrictions that mean you're overpaying when you buy.

>inhale
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>56377205
>t. seething fed

>>56377205
buddy, lurk moar
been lurking since 2007
there are a lot of wealthy anons on /biz/
4chan is the only free speech place left on the internet that isn't a hugbox
I value other people disputing my theses, telling me why my argument is wrong, offering their own data, their own theses - you really can't get that anywhere else, other than maybe Bridgewater Capital (radical honesty radical transparency)
If you're working in a fund, nobody will tell you
>Your idea is fucking retarded you dumb faggot for XYZ reason
people will here - that is why /smg/ is great
PS: We're all going to make it, even you

>>56377192
What could that mean?

>>56377197
I was thinking about this too. I know legit farmers with crazy amounts of land. They have little community events they run but Ive never heard of them going to a farmer's market. These big 18 wheel trucks come in and take the stuff away (or one of their kids drives it, I'm not sure.)

OOMPA
LOOMPA
DUMPITY
DOO

0DTE puts!

>>56377221
There was no restriction until today so most of the Chink stocks are cheap af. They banned short selling with leverage they are doing fiscal stimulus and PBC is cutting interest rates. Buying chink stocks is free money right now absent a Taiwan invasion.

>>56377241
Puts on index funds are pretty much always a bad idea.
0dte options are pretty much always a bad idea.
0dte puts on index funds is just asking to get fucked.

>>56377252
sure i had some losses, but i also had some wins

>>56377205
You act like 7 figs is some unattainable dream. Take this as a lesson. It's really just a matter of time and scale.
And once you get there, you'll realize that you really needed 8 figs.

This portfolio is badass

noone talking about uranium anymore

>>56377246
Too risky for my blood, because I don't know what rules the CCP actually enforces for their companies or if they have to actually be honest with foreign investors. I also largely believe the same thing about this country's companies, which is why my positions are all completely random and based on gut feeling verses published data.

>>56377258
Of course.
I think you can expect to lose though.

>>56377271
>you can expect to lose though
is that called risk?

>>56377241
With the new and improved market you almost have to add 1dte otherwise risk getting a 331 fucking.

>>56377246
What tickers would a degen consider aside from baba ?

>>56377278
I suppose you could call it that yes.

>>56377261
No, I need 3M. Half of that would do in a pinch, even without SS. 3M would give me $50,000/yr in 2010 dollars, in 2040ish.$50k in 2010 was good money. I live on under 40k/yr. 8 more years with my company, I can leave and keep my health and life insurance for $72/mo.

>>56376063
I toured the stackoverflow office in NYC. None of them are productive, kek. Bunch of rich overpaid Jews and lesbians.

>>56377270
>I also largely believe the same thing about this country's companies,
Western auditors have the books of companies listed on NYSE like BABA and JD. CCP is fine as long as you don't talk shit about them.

>>56377238
Here’s how farmings going atm. Land prices in Iowa are exceeding 16,000 acre regularly. Corn and beans are holding ok. But revenue generated off the farm doesn’t cover the 16k, most rent anyway. Everyone’s banking on the appreciation much like the stock market but don’t realize it’s looking awful toppy atm. Brazil is going to produce more grain this year than we know what to do with. Already priming the pumps for onions diesel because we have too much. Not to mention a new tractor runs you 300k-700k. A fucking combine with a header is at 1 million dollars. And this was fine and dandy with the govt handouts and low interest. But the hand outs aren’t as frequent (and all the poor fucks should be happy farmers get subsidized because if they didn’t they would have all gone broke and corpos would not only be controlling the grain markets but would own all the land too) anyway you too it all off with 10% interest. And yes it’s ten because prime is 8.5 and they tack on a percentage at the bank. If you’re lucky it’s just a percent that is. And 90% of them borrow every year. Thinking a farmers market on a sunny Saturday afternoon is representative of the farming economy has to be from brain damage

>>56377289
>Israel Epstein
LMAO no way.

>>56377289
JD is good. All the large chink banks are <0.40 P/B with low P/E s 10% dividends. Ping an is also good but I'm mostly in JD and BABA because western auditors have the books.

>>56377303
Sumtin funney goy ?

>>56377269
Well it was an obvious sentiment peak, and those of use who have been around for more than a year called it out as such.
Pretty typical for pumpers to go silent as soon as the pattern tops out.

Realistically there's still an impending shortage of uranium, and most likely it'll pump to higher highs within the next 12 months. Anyone betting on a spike to $300+ is delusional though. Anyone expecting lifestyle companies like UUUU or DNN to hold gains is delusional. Their product is you. Their business is selling stock.

>>56377299
All those formerly-retard-strength industrial scale farms are failing because they were overextended. This leaves a vacuum to be filled by smaller scale famers who don't need million dollar equipment to make a living

i don't know man but seeing the low energy volume during the pumps and those yuge spikes during the selloffs doesn't make me feel too warm and fuzzy

>>56377305
Based. I may join you then sir. The only people uniparty love more than the flavor of the month bipoc is the totalitarian chinese government.

>>56377323
So then the deflation in unprocessed food prices might be transitory and not caused by hiring issues in food processing plants.
Yikes.

baking

>>56377121
I’d be happy with that dividend. Initial investment of $1,000,000. Ten years later you’ve already been paid $700,000 in dividends and yield is 11% so $110,000 in dividends this year. That’s without reinvesting any of those dividends

Threaded
>>56377286
>>56377286
>>56377286

>>56377151
Does this imply China is expecting a correction?

>>56377292
>3M would give me $50,000/yr in 2010 dollars
See, the problem with this is that if you ever get anywhere near that $3M goal, at an age under 60, you'll start to feel like you should scale up spending. Then suddenly that $3 mil isn't enough anymore. The hedonistic treadmill is real.

>>56377336
Wow you must have a hard life, twisting literally everything into something negative

>>56377349
fuk you

>>56377349
If I must be gotten, then I'm glad it's done by a cute dragonball space loli

>>56377328
Cheers. JD bottomed imo, that most likely also means that BABA bottoms. Chink banks Idk maybe they go lower maybe they have bottomed but very cheap either way and they can't fail because the CCP is the largest shareholder Ping An bank has almost no exposure to real estate market so they're really good as well. All the banks are x2 at least BABA JD maybe a x3-x4 depends on growth which they are growing. Absent a Taiwan invasion.

Where's the baker?!

>>56377349
no i dont want that

>>56377353
Spending time unemployed really helps correct this. It's underrated IMO. I can feel my mental and physical health improving quickly.

>>56377349
This is GME general

>>56377323
It’s funny because around here even the small scale farmers buy the equipment then try to custom farm and don’t realize they’re burning the wick at both ends. Small farmers usually don’t own much land. And the ones that do own 200 acres in Iowa, which is small but is worth 32million, usually doesn’t expand. He’s been farming the same farm that his grand diddys sissy bought for a song and a dance.

>>56377080
11% over 10 years? kill me now

>>56377363
It’s just funny to check in on the schizos every once in a while. Where’s the actual bake though?

>>56377350
No it means it bottomed. they're in a bear market since 2015 for China 2018 for Hong Kong.

>>56377299
3.2 milll*

>>56377387
Are you stupid. 11% is the dividend yield. 70% in paid dividends and like 1000% in stock price. Learn to read

>>56377381
That's true. Unemployment is similar to retirement in a sense.

I just cashed out my other $370 QQQ fun money calls I had left and bought three 0DTE $367 butterflies for free with the profit.

Wish me luck on my petty goombling bros $700 max gain so in reality I could make $500 if snibs and Bobo help me a little

new
>>56377420
>>56377420
>>56377420

>>56377403
learn to type
10.11x in 10 years kill me now

my boy Russell two thousand doing it right today

>>56377368

Yeah I saw the imf fud regarding china bank/retail sups. God I hate bankers...

>https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/analysis-imf-warning-on-china-puts-japanization-risk-in-spotlight-0

Here come dat yield, bulls beware

>>56376343
>fat ugly wife
>mystery meat mutt
>shitbull
>mindless consoooomism
I would like to purchase $50m in CDS on your life, thx

>>56376993
>he thinks farmer's markets have actual farmers

>>56376797
Central planning doesn't work, full stop. Memetic parasites only have the power you give them