/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>56288315
Love Krugs but in Australia anything under 996 we need to pay 10% tax on

>>56288333
A shame and totally arbitrary.

>>56288337
Yeah, same for silver I think it's anything under 995 need to pay GST

>>56288344
gold (in an investment form) of at least 99.5% fineness
silver (in an investment form) of at least 99.9% fineness
platinum (in an investment form) of at least 99% fineness
Precious metals must be in a form that is tradeable on the international bullion market. Precious metals in an investment form carry a mark or characteristic that guarantees its fineness and quality. An investment/tradeable form may be a bar, wafer or coin but must be in the form and character of the metal only. A tradeable form means the metal is in a form as traded at a spot price for the metal only. Granules do not carry marks and are not investment form. Some gold, silver or platinum coins are not precious metals (see Collectable coins)

>>56288350
I'm waiting on 400 face of goldbacks, looks like I'm gonna get slugged an additional 10% when they finally get here even through they're technically 999

Pondering on buying gold to resist inflation and eventual fiat crash but too scared to keep it. Thieves would make me scared as fuck.

>>56288390
>resist inflation and eventual fiat crash
I don't think there will be a fiat crash. Just inflation. Don't fall for the doom porn on Youtube or here.
Hide your gold, put worthless trinkets like silver and gold plated jewelry into a fake safe, don't tell anyone that you have gold, not even friends.
It's safe to talk about it here, but that's it.

>>56288315
where do i get a gold jade pepe pendant in 24k.

What is the best stack tier list?

>>56288583
or a 24k pepe sculpture

>>56288608
Damn, that was a bad pic, didn't see it in the preview.
Proves once again, always take several pics and hope at least one is good.

>>56288600
or a 2023 black excellence in looting pendant in 24k

>>56288640
AI image generation is so crazy

>>56288350
>silver (in an investment form) of at least 99.9% fineness
Do you have junk silver coins down there? Do they charge tax on that? If so, how do they explain charging tax on legal currency?

>>56288684
i want to buy an american culture series coin set from china.

>>56288723
>>56288684
In 1966 Australia switched from shillings and pence to decimal currency. The old stuff went from Stirling silver to 50% silver in 1946
The only decimal junk was the 1966 50c which was 80% and was just over 1/3 oz silver content

>>56288865
thanks for the info.

>>56288912
I've got a heap of Aussie junk, but mostly 50% stuff. I'll post some pics tomorrow, I like it but understand 50% isn't ideal.
I do also like the round 50c (in 1967 they changed the shape when they switched to 25% nickel 75% copper
>>56288344

>>56288411
just hide it well. gold is tiny and most burglars are in and out fast.

>>56288583
>>56288600
Keep these coming, they're amazing.

>>56288315
>American salaries keep going up
>Gold keeps falling
>Gold had never been this affordable for the average American
Is Biden our greatest president ever? I got a 10% pay rise since Biden and gold has fallen by 10% this year.

I can buy either 7 more krugs or another monster box of wiener cheapies.

>>56288315
You forgot the title. I almost made a new thread because this isn't showing up in the catalog when you search pmg.

>>56289014
pic related is what i want to add to my stack.

>>56289184

>>56289198
i've been working on getting a custom aboriginal style cuff bracelet made locally and have been learning about traditional Chinese gold jewelry and want to have a custom 24k/jade bracelet made in the traditional chinese style

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>>56288315
Shiny rocks are for low IQ anons. you buy and sell at a premium then are force to hold for a decade until you are in the green. sad you all fell for it

>>56289274

>>56289335

>>56289342

>>56289213
why is he fisting his own ass

>>56289031
>salaries going up
Where?
>10% pay rise
And 100% inflation.

>>56289349
you make the chinks sniff your fingers after. that's how you win.

>>56289364

>>56289105
I did indeed, darn. Less Cryptobros then? :-)

>>56289371

>>56289419
sorry for ruining the thread.

>>56288315

>>56288315
I want the full "black excellence" series from the Chinese mint.

>>56289325
Youre not clever ,I've seen you in other pm threads fuding gold and silver fuck off iqdelet

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>>56289451
this is when you should kys filthy rat brained kike

>>56289873

>>56289888

I don’t understand what causes this American obsession with interracial sex that they feel the need to insert it into everything. I don’t think China really even has any black people. Is it because Americans are raised on a constant diet of consumerist propaganda, corn syrup, and microplastics?

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>>56288965
This. Unless you’re Scrooge McDuck, you’ll probably have no trouble hiding gold.

>>56290012
I'm not American. odds are YOU are american.

For newfags, this is how you deal with spammers, shills and trolls. Use the settings link at the bottom of the page, enter the required value (pic related) and click "save". Then don't forget to also click "save settings" in the main menu.

>>56290045
do this after reporting

>>56290045
Only problem is that it doesn’t automatically filter people who reply to the people you filtered as well. For me, retards who fall for the bait are no less irritating than the ones who post the b8. I unironically need to get off this site totally.

Cheapest deal all around, if anyone in euroland wants to add some weight.

>dip continues
WOOF WOOF

>>56290350
I have 3 orders already, I don't know what to buy today

>>56289451
>peace symbol
i can only imagine the hands that typed the prompt. probably not that young lmao

>>56290373
I’ve done all the at spot deals. Make your way through those if you haven’t.

>>56290486
Mostly taking advantage to get some vanity stuff. Getting the Jesus clears the temple bar today

I like my Krug.

>op didnt put /pmg/
no wonder i wasnt able to find the new thread.
reposting from other bread
>>56290690
>There's a difference between owning a chunk of metal that has no added value of interest, and one that has been worked into something aesthetically pleasing and stamped with a mark of provenance, and/or something totally naturally occurring like a raw chunk directly from the ground.
aka premium, i know. but the premium on a copper bar seems a little excessive.
and yeah, like you said, youd need quite a bit for it to make any sense.
i have a slow but reliable source for scrap copper from various kinds of wires. would probably still take a lot of time and effort to amass anything note worthy, and then id be taking up a huge risk getting caught stealing old network cables from my employer.
maybe ill buy a couple 1kg bars just for the fun of it. 6 to be exact to stack a little pyramid.

also, what about rust? copper rusts/tarnishes unlike gold. and silver is easy to keep in check. but if i were to buy copper bars, other than keeping them in shrink wrap, what could i reasonably do to prevent them from turning blue? is that even an issue with fine copper?

>>56290068
use 4chanX, it lets you hide replies to filtered posts and also lets you hide those little "expand hidden" stubs so you really dont notice them once your filters are set up.
also
>>56290045
filtering for a spammer ID only works on a per thread basis and youd need to manually remove them eventually because you could accidentally filter out a different poster in a different thread that happens to have gotten the same ID (they arent infinitely unique)
if you want to filter AI slop specifically, at least the recent dall e 3 spam, filtering image dimensions of 1024x1024 is far more reliable. they can make other image dimensions, sure, but the vast majority is that specific dimension.

>>56290580
>>56288372
>>56288374
>>56288337
>>56288330
>>56288315
REMINDER TO YOU RACIST CHUDS STACKING KRUGERRANDS. THESE COINS REPRESENT APARTHEID. THEY REPRESENT RACISM AGAINST BLACK PEOPLE AND YOU WILL BE BANNED FROM OWNING THEM

no albert today but these came

>>56288315
Buy more until I can recreate the opening scene from Lethal Weapon 2.

>>56290966
>>56290068
>>56290045
specifically, using 4chanX, use "/1024x1024/;type:dimensions" without the quotes to filter out any thread or post with those images. false positives are possible but unlikely.

Morning pmg, I am waiting patiently for a monster box mega slurp when spot dumps to under $20. 10 year treasury over 5%, debt increasing at record pace, time to get comfy and see what breaks first.

You fucked up by not putting /pmg/ in your post OP. Also, FYI look what's back in stock

>>56291020
You can also filter based on comments.
crypto*
tranny
kike*
nigg*
shill*
fud

>>56291339
yeah but for terms as broad as those you might as well just put it in the general tab and have it filter out not just comments but subjects, threads and filenames as well. i keep the majority of my filters in general. though seeing a retarded post and just clicking Filter>Comment is very convenient.

>>56291363
Alas, file names are so variable.
Question: the dimensions filter: does that exclude images larger than 1x1k?

>>56289392
You get an A for effort.

>>56291383
im not an expert on regex, but i would assume it simply looks at the string of [number1]x[number2] and filters it out. so 1024x1024 would filter out specifically that and nothing else. i bet you can do a regular expression that catches a certain range of dimensions in a single line but i dont know how to do that. most of the time its easier to just add a second separate filter instead of getting fancy with regex.

>>56290895
>is that even an issue with fine copper?
I doubt it, and there's always copper polish. It's such an inexpensive metal that losing a few molecules off the surface is meaningless. I imagine some people even like the green patina.

>>56291326
They've been in stock for months now. I just got one in the mail yesterday. No one makes a capsule that fits them that I've found yet though as they're a bit thicker and narrower than most 10oz bars.

>>56291020
> 4chanX
Ok but I don't use those plugins, scripts or whatever it is. I use Iridium browser on OpenBSD and try to keep everything as barebones as possible, since that makes keeping my system up to date easier. So far the basic filtering by ID has worked gud enough for me. Normally I just ignore the shills and trolls, but this AI spam is more annoying since it fills up the thread's image limit.
Anyway here's a pic of real coins.

>>56291429
ty

>>56291441
Have they? People are still trying to sell them on ebay for way too much.

>>56291447
>but this AI spam is more annoying since it fills up the thread's image limit.
yeah, theres sadly nothing preventing them from doing that, even if you filter it out. other than jannies doing their job of course but thats not gonna happen either

>>56291463
People are retarded lol. I check the site pretty often as they rotate through a different design for 3 days and discount everything in that design heavily. RN it's Lincoln heads, but it was Aztecs from the order I got yesterday. I've got a tube of Lincoln halfs and in my cart rn. I'm waiting to see how far silver will dip and maybe I'll add a few federal reserve bars to even it up to $300.

>>56290034
Stop spamming your stupid frogs & cuck fetishes you fucking niggerkike. You are ruining the bread for everyone by reaching images limit early.
You are the weak plebbitard negroid mutt, ain't you? KYS, you ugly abomination

>>56291529
what do we think is in that bulk supplements bag? creatine?

>>56291560
idk but it's clearly not working.

>>56290987
Nice! Got some boobas coming myself, now that they aren't $40/oz

What are you currently slurping? Right now I have tubes of Noah's Arks and Cooks on the way along with a 5oz Germania bar for fondling

gold 1g is 18.5% over spot, silver 1oz is 35.44% over spot. would it unironically be better to buy gold grams?

>>56291755
an entire tube and a 5oz! the timing on the dip worked out pretty well for these. its nice to be able to pick them up at a reasonable price.

>>56289350
No. Not pm inflation. Gold is going down. More gold for less money.

>>56291947
Where do you live that you have to pay a 34% premium on silver?

>>56291947
[link needed]
Something must be wrong with your maths, or you're comparing two items with very different target audiences.

>>56292015
I'm a brit and silver has vat, so 20% is automatically took for tax, but gold isn't taxxed

speaking of brits, did the royal mint implement some sort of minting process change recently? i finally got one of the coronation coins recently and it has chart wheeling that is very similar to a maple leaf on the side with charles. none of my other brits are anywhere near as intense

>>56292099
Which coronation coin, just the normal 1oz ones or the sovereign?

>>56292043
Damn, you pay VAT on actual coins too?
I can't comprehend paying tax on currency.

>>56292134
this one. it's a big improvement for eye appeal imo.

>>56292099
>got one of the coronation coins recently and it has chart wheeling
Chart wheeling?

>>56292145
It's paid on coins and bars that are silver, platinum and palladium, even the Britannia coins
>>56292154
I've got one but not noticed a massive difference

>>56292207
That's insane. They really don't want you guys having money. I guess look at 1/10oz gold Brits or something. Grams are a pretty shitty buy everywhere, though I'd love to grab a maplegram one day.

>>56291949
Yep, I couldn't resist. I bought a single Libertad during last year's release and it was $42. If it keeps on dipping into black friday, I'll back the truck up for those deals, then I'll switch back to stackin' deenz for a while.

>>56291947
>silver 1oz is 35.44% over spot
excooz me ser?
In the real world, premiums never have been this low ever since the scamdemic started.

>>56292409
Literally my LCS says premiums are $2.50/ozt for generic rounds. This is in Oregon. Slurping $1k of cheapies out of my last $1,855 as I look for another job.

>>56292287
>stackin' deenz
Hell yeah brother!

>>56292581
Good luck on your job search fren.

>package in the mail with gold in it labeled “AMark Precious Metals Inc.”

>>56292605
>Open-faced junkmail from Money Metals Exchange

>>56292597
Thanks Fren. It's an employer's market out there

>>56289105
This
>>56288315
>Rhodesian accepted too!

>>56291947
I pay either under spot or 0.1% over spot (depending on the premium) using a cashback card on eBay

>>56288315
>PMG without the PMG
You bring great shame upon your famiry.

Calling bs on the idea that the people who fuck kids are too scared to just create a few shell companies, buy physical silver until the shorts squeeze, then start selling the physical
It's fucking stupid c'mon
I even hold silver but after a couple of years holding im starting to notice how dumb these arguments are.

>>56293356
Wait, what are you talking about? Link to comment you’re addressing?

>>56293620
It's a general idea I've seen from people shilling silver.

Ugh. Someone knock the price down again, I missed the morning tamp.

>>56291755
>>56293905

Where the heck are you silly gooses getting 2023 5 ounce libertads???

>>56293925
https://www.goldeneaglecoin.com/item/mexican-silver-libertad-5-ounce-2023

https://monumentmetals.com/2023-5-oz-mexican-silver-libertad-coin-bu.html

https://bullionexchanges.com/2023-5-oz-mexican-silver-libertad-coin-bu

https://www.boldpreciousmetals.com/product/4351/2023-5-oz-mexican-libertad-silver-coin

>>56293925

>>56293356
If there is ONE thing the ultra-(((elites))) are scared of is losing their ability to create money. Everything else, all their power, derive from this alchemical black-magick allowing them to spawn money (ie. stolen energy/work) into existence.

Do you believe it's by chance there is zero university class about philosophy of money? Or that normies are so desperatly clueless about what is money even though they spend their entire existence chasing it?

So yes, kids fuckers are scared of physical PM shortages, not because of the lack of PMs itself, but because the day it happens it will mean a critical masse of goyim woke up to the truth : that (((their))) entire empire is built on etherical mirages they sold to the masses as the real deal.
You are missing the forest for the trees.

>>56293656
Silver isn’t something they want to make a quick Buck on.
It’s meant to be quietly tucked away and forgotten. The thing about being a prime mover in the economy is when a change is coming you have ample time to get all of your ducks in a row, you don’t have to accumulate or buy dips, you make the dip and buy. Then make your move. As for them being scared, yes, if even half of Americans said fuck the stock market and started buying silver it would be over for them. The game is to prevent any change in this regime unless it is sanctioned by them at the time that they want it.

whoever made this thread sucks ass, didn't put pmg in the title. didn't even put precious metals in the title. don't do it again, you got no talent

>>56294078
Based. Statu quo is of the essence for them. And forget about half americans, even few % of the total capitalization of the Nasd-ACK / S&P migrating to would be enough fake monies to vaporize all silver reserves. Thus breaking part of the statu quo.

>>56293356
>Calling bs on the idea that the people who fuck kids are too scared to just create a few shell companies, buy physical silver until the shorts squeeze, then start selling the physical
why the fuck would they do that? they have plenty of other ways to make money. hell, they can just print money

>>56294144
As a matter of fact, if anything the exact opposite would happen : (((they))) would print money to purchase back silver, hoping the mirage of a quick bux to be enough for most stackers to accept to get rid of their shinies.
And this is the most likely scenario.
The anon you are answering to clearly didn't think it through.

>>56294001
Yea but I don't want to "Create an account" on their website. They don't have a guest checkout..

>>56294231
put it on your list for santa

>>56294259
nigger Im not "asking" santa for fucking precious metals. If he actually got me some, id have to slit his throat and hide the body. I don't want anyone knowing where my stack is or that I stack

>>56294269
>If he actually got me some,
you must be leaving him single stuffed oreos

>>56294231
>>56294269
how about stop being a paranoid schizo

>>56294287
I don't even put my own pictures on my Tinder profile, just in case some filthy roastie or glownigger finds out that I stack.

>>56294269
>If he actually got me some
KekTOP!

>>56294231
I've spent well into 5 figures with monument metals, never had the slightest issue. my fave site to order from.

>>56294269
Why tf would you do that to Santa you asshole? You fucking piece of shit all he does is spread joy
>Hurr durr he will know where my stack is
Implying SANTA would steal?? Yea ok dickwad you don't have to worry about it you're NOT making the nice list and thats a guarantee

>>56294372
post receipts or gtfo

>>56294379
maybe I wouldn't have to kill santa, just sever his vocal chords so that he cannot tell anyone about my stack. Also would have to cut off his hands so he can't draw out a treasure map for people

>>56294372
are you in a state that charges taxes?

>>56294391
Santa would kick your fucking ass. Once one random asshole vs a saint who can travel around the world in one night.
But like I said you don't have to worry because he won't visit your sorry ass

why is the gold price not moving up or down? I thought the markets closed on Saturday. Its not even Friday yet

I just realized that coin show is gonna be fuckin crazy tomorrow.

I have a box

Bros I already dumped my fiat into 100toz silver, it's still low, should I just get 1.5toz gold to go with it

>>56294641
Tis a big box.

>>56294641
show contents

>>56294687
>>56294737
And now I stack silver for a awhile

>>56294641
That’s a huge box, you either backed up the truck or got a collectors box.

>>56294780
based purchase, stack them buffalo pelts

Anyone know what happened to the guy who makes silver shield Chris Duane? His youtube channel was deleted but I see someone reuploaded it.

>>56295115
what's the reuploaded channel called?

>>56295137
The Greatest Truth Never Told Chris Duane
It has 195 vids, I think it is missing some but couldn't tell you which ones.

Not really PM related but i'd like your opinion frens. I need some $$ and plan to sell few items (no PMs, sorry IQDELET) taking dust on my shelves, what price tag should i put for pic rel? It's a set of 24 alu buttons for Kriegsmarine's officer uniforms, brand new from 1943, it's still sealed to the cardboard and in the box from the manufacturer company producing them for the german army.
I think the big selling point is the blue-gray military paint is still pristine.
What would you consider a decent price for it?

>>56290965
Yes.

Sup goys

>>56290895
>>op didnt put /pmg/
>no wonder i wasnt able to find the new thread
I'm very sorry.

>>56291326
>You fucked up by not putting /pmg/ in your post OP
I apologize.

>>56293021
I'm sorry.

>>56293021
Sweet coin :-)

>>56293263
Shamefur dispray. I apologize.

>>56294125
>whoever made this thread sucks ass, didn't put pmg in the title
So sorry!

Does it really matter what silver rounds I buy? I don't really want to watch extra on premium if I don't have to.

bumping with old stack. still have everything but one krugerrand, gave to a friend for his birthday. waiting on 30oz coming in the mail. after sitting on the stack for a few years, I think kangaroos and krugerrands are the worst. hopefully 'roo bars are better...I bought two 1oz of those. I got a ton of scottsdale bars. didn't realize that mint was so kino

Reminder
>You will buy silver
>You will enslave woman by using your silver during hyperinflation to buy daughters from their fathers
>You will own houses
>You will have revenge
>and you will be happy

>>56295457
No, but be sure to pick generic, well recognized stuff. What you should avoid at all cost is political cringe, like drumpf rounds or no step on le snek. Thankfully, they usually are sold at a premium to Qoomers so it's not like it will be an issue if you are looking for the cheapest stuff.

Also, make sure to stick to one design (the cheapest) once you start. It's easier to get rid of it at the best price (for you). For example if you wanna sell it on ebay, mixing coins will interest less people (it's also true for junk or gubment coins) and the auction will end lower usually.
Also, ebay only take a 2% commission for sales 2k worth and above, against 13% for sales below this threshold, so it's very interesting for you to have at least $2k worth of a similar coin/round to put on sale.

>>56288315
Goud?

doesnt seem worth getting into silver bullion at all. Here in the UK at least, with the 20% VAT

crypto nerds will seethe

>>56295457
Buy what makes you happy. If all you're doing is chasing fiat in silver form, then you're just playing the old ponzi game with more steps.

>>56295762
Are these on sale yet? I’ve wanted them for so long.

I've gone through two different jobs, developed an addiction to alcohol, got my first dui, got kicked out of my parents house, all in the time since I first purchased the Crusader, to now.

>>56295617
Thanks Anon!

>>56295877
that's a pretty action packed 6-8 months anon

>>56295845
Looks like they just released, though I guess they're not doing a 1/5oz this year? Their release schedule is a bit strange. I'm not as fond of the 2023, it looks too close to the 2019. Maybe I'll see the difference in my hand.

Ooooh and they resupplied the 2019 and 2021 tubes. I don't have the 2021 yet ... insta-buy! Thanks for making me check anon.

>>56295981
Luv me tridents. Sinple as.

>>56295616
>>You will enslave woman by using your silver during hyperinflation to buy daughters from their fathers
This is just called marriage.
>you will be married, own property, have revenge, and be happy
fixed for you

>>56290987
daaaamn u got the 5 ouncer

Is this just an AI general now?

>>56295981
Let us know about the eye appeal!

>>56295226
$220

>>56295897
You're welcome fren.
Personally i'd advise you to go for Noah's Ark.
>super affordable
>government minted with facial value, legal tender for taxes dodging
>beloved and widely known design
>all important informations displayed on the coin, in english
>Armenia may soon not exist anymore as kikes and roaches made their goal to eradicate them, so you should support them, and if they disappear, then you get a collector coin

You can find them for 23€ rn, which is at least 1€ below any other gubment minted coin and only 3€ above spot. If you are a burgerbro, just add few cents to all my € figures.

>>56296249
Damn, that'd be great! Back then i bought it for 30 bux to a gramp lol. This is exactly the kind of deals who would help me big time atm.

>>56296306
I've got 2 tubes of those coming in the mail tomorrow, looking forward to it. Weren't they pretty pricey before the dip?

>>56288315
>No /pmg/ title
>have Ctrl+f 'why gold
Why OP? I know others said similar things, but have you learned your lesson?

>>56296578
No they are dirt cheap always.

>be leaf
>be me
>get change
>find silver 1967 fish dime

today was fucking great, can't wait for my 20toz of Britannias to come in

>>56296216
The whole world is about to become an AI general.

>>56296656
Wonder why I never noticed them before. Either way still a nice coin to have.

>>56296216
>>56296715
Just buy silver and gold in whatever styles you like, only D&C shills worry about the thread goin fast or slow

>>56296751
I'm not even a drawfag, it's just soulless non OC

>>56296724
It’s because U.S. buys most of the silver and sets the tone for the market. To US, the Noah’s Ark Coin is not a British commonwealth country (points lost) Armenia sounds like a shithole (points lost) although I couldn’t tell you a single fact about it. Cold War hangover that’s anti Russian, coin feels like Russia Eastern Europe to me. And the design is gay. I’d rather have just about any generic than one of those coins. And I’m just being honest here and I mean no offense to the anon that is absolutely obsessed with Jesus and this coin.

Fug boys. The temptation to add another one to the collection is strong.

>>56296883
It’s also got shitty biblical theme

I wish more mints put a little thought into their presentation

>>56296972
Armenia doesn't have really anything else significant other than having the mountain referenced in an ancient story located in it. That's like saying Egypt having a pyramid on their coins is a shitty biblical theme.

>>56296962
You gotta stop buying those things bro, you won’t stop. You don’t even have a pickle rick yet. Get one of those first.
>>56296972
Yeah, I didn’t want to say anything to get the Christians all restless.

>>56297026
>Armenia doesn't have really anything else significant other than having the mountain referenced in an ancient story located in it.
Yeah, that’s thinking like a normal person though. In the United States we have prejudices towards many things that are deeper than possum creek gully.

Not only are there AI fags, but now there are enlightened individuals telling you not to buy silver.

>>56295627

>>56297058
Kevin?

>>56296962
Do you have the 2020 snowman?

>>56297194
I don’t. I have a few others though. They just make me laugh hysterically. I do recognize that they are ridiculous. Maybe I need a grail coin/bar to substitute these.

>>56296766
At least its not the same picture of the same coins that's been posted 6 times before

>>56297090
Caleb
>>56297298
Only 6?

>>56297298
Post shinies then or fuck off

>>56297254
Based Pez enjoyer.

>>56297298
I've posted this more than 6 times and even had another Anon post it once and yet you don't post any genuine pic to challenge your claims as someone who should be respected ITT.

>>56297254
Nice meme coins. Only one I got was Yotsuba when it first came out.

>>56297254
Ah - the based strongbox Leaf!

>>56297324
Weird way to dox yourself but okay

test

Bump

This thread needs to die for a proper /pmg/

>>56295457
I recommend to only buy well recognized investment coins, these are easy to verify as "real" and official, even by noobs. Best of the lot, in my opinion, are Maple Leaf and Britannia, as they have security every buyer can verify at home.
If you buy, don't buy one coin and call it a day, buy a bunch, they come in rolls at 25 or monster boxes at 500. Picrel are 50 Britannias and 25 Maple Leafs.
This >>56295617 is good advice too i think.

>>56295652
True in most of continental Europe as well. Germany has the lowest tax at 19% within EU and i think only Finland has zero silver tax. It sucks.

>>56295877
This sounds like you need to unfuck yourself and grow up. Good luck anon, it is possible.

>>56296216
Just a few "special" users, they will grow tired of it soon enough. I found it interesting in the beginning, but it starts to get annoying if you consider the cool real pictures we see in every thread. To be honest, it's best to avoid the schizo posters too, they are like a mold growing in the cracks of society.

>>56296655
>No /pmg/ title
>I know others said similar things, but have you learned your lesson?
I did. So sorry.
Pls forgive?

>>56296883
It fucken cheap silver coins is what it is. You forgot to mention that. I don't buy them either, nor do i buy Philharmoniker, as Maple Leaf and Brits exist. But if you want cheap silver in coin form, this is it, innit.

>>56297254
le epic German strongbox :-)
You should get a 3d printer, you could put self made dividers, boxes and a second/third layer in it. It's what i will do with my treasure chest eventually.

>>56297350
Because it's an exceptionally well taken picture of a few very desirable coins.

>>56297970
>This thread needs to die for a proper /pmg/
I was distracted and didn't even notice until well into the thread. I apologize.

>>56296751
Can't stand the AI spam that's taken over every board but love sausages

>>56295457
Bullion is bullion, shops around here sell buy and sell eagles at the inflated premium and then everything else is pretty much the same whether it's a generic or a Britannia...I usually buy wherever is lowest cost per oz, but that's just me... Have more Britannias than anything because they are usually the same price as generic.

As apologize for fucking up OP, i present to you the 2024 Britannia, freshly delivered a few minutes ago.

>>56298495
And the Brits are exceptionally well made, even the silver ones. Finest minting, lots of hard to fake detail.

>>56298770

>>56298778

>>56298783
mi gold treasure so far:
3 Britannia
1 Maple Leaf
1 Kangaroo
1 Kruger

= 6oz gold!

One still in the mail.

>>56298770
>>56298778
>>56298783
Very nice anon, very nice indeed

>>56298795
T-thanks.
Y-you too.

Found this photo from a gold conference I went to a few months ago.

Payday = SLURP DAY

>>56289325
>rocks
what an actual dumbfuck

How does one get to selling gold without getting scammed/ robbed by the mailman?

>>56297026
>located in it
Not even that. The mountain is in Turkey.

Should I buy a kilo kookaburra for $813 or should I just stack cheapies.

>>56299206
Cheapies.

>>56298301
> nor do i buy Philharmoniker,
Those are overall the best coin to buy in Europe. They're very cheap and have excellent resale value. I don't care at all about the "security features" they added on britannias and maples, because .999 silver coins are trivial to verify. It's not like we're talking about numismatics that have intricate fakes, including ones made of the same metal composition.
But last year I bought 600 britannias because they were cheaper than wieners. But I also bought some wieners too, and more this year because the britannias went up in price (probably due to the queen/king stuff). I bought only one britannia this year: an old one from 2017 with the trident privy mark (20th anniversary). Yeah, so it's just a collector item.
But when I can get them cheap, I buy noah's arks. I have many of these, around 1375 ozt of them (some are kilo pieces). Prices are very good and helped to keep the average of all my coins well below 24 euros/oz. I also like the design of the coin (both sides are nice!) and the theme as well. The story of the flood that exists in all ancient cultures around the same time. We have another flood today, but it's not water., it's a flood of debt. But the concept remains the same: if you prepare, you'll weather the storm.

>>56299161
anyone?

>>56299243
Make sure it’s registered and insured like pretty much all major dealers will do. Get CCTV for your porch.

WOW i hate the federal reserve

Zeit for ze washies.

>>56288390
Much easier to protect your wealth from street criminals than the criminals in the government and banks.

>>56299526
Make them shiny. Do it.

>>56295362
Classy tube.

>>56299161
We buy gold. We don't sell it.

>>56299526
You’re wiping away dust from hitlers fingernail don’t do it!

>>56299213
based Ark enjoyer

>>56299675
Not making them extra shiny. A lot of them still have a nice luster.
>>56299855
While that is unfortunate I kind of have to do this because occasionally some coins have PVC damage and I don't want it to spread onto random coins. Around here they come in bags like picrel. In the shops they just dump them loosely in a box.

>>56299300
Any benefit you could say the federal reserve has given us by being the reserve currency is only topical. The endless wars, deficit spending, sabotaging our the population, cultural and moral decay are all of the price we have to pay for any material benefit we receive. And they even go so far as to tax and inflate our lives away and turn us into debt slaves. The central banks are the sole evil in the world

Hello friends, need some advice. I have to sell my stack to pay off my mortgage right now. If I go to Wells Fargo and walk up to their desk and pay $9000 towards my mortgage, on two different occasions, am I going to set off any red flags? Is the bank going to start tattle-telling on me that I paid in cash and it is suspicious?

I don't fucking recall what I bough all these PMs for at the time of purchase. I am pretty damn certain I am just barely breaking even at best, losing quite a bit most likely. After the premium to buy the PMs and now getting a little scalping on the selling end, I'm not profiting here. I just want to use some cash that was temporarily in the form of metal. I earned this fucking money and I want to do what I want to do with it.

>>56300196
Yes, you may have to provide them with information on where the cash came from. If you didn’t keep track of it, you will likely get reported and have to go an informal audit.

>>56300196
Any gains or losses don’t matter you are still going to have to file a tax form. And likely a NA0b-11 form, which will take into account any silver/gold assets you have to make it easier to utilize in the future. There is a helpline on the IRS website, it’s be best to go to them and let them help you walk through this situation. Can’t believe you thought you could use precious metals to tender legal debts without penalties. Kek top!

>>56300524
Thank you for your input.
I feel I am not violating any tax laws. I am selling at a loss. Anyway, here is a thought experiment -

>Man saves cash money in coffee can for 10 years.
>Accumulates $9,000.
>Decides he wants to put it towards his mortgage balance.
>Goes to Well Jewgo counter and gives them $9,000 to go towards mortgage principle.
>Goes home. Repeats the process 2 weeks later with $9,000 he saved in another coffee can.
>Mortgage paid in full.
>Man goes home and takes a nap.

Do you see any problem here? Honest question. If/when anyone asks me where I got the money, what if I really do have some money in coffee cans and I exclaim this fact?

>>56300664
Don’t use round numbers like that. Don’t make them equal payments, stay under 10k. Best of luck. I’m sure it will be ok.

>>56300524
What? No way. If he sells his metals for more than he paid, he will have to report capital gains on his normal tax return and pay some tax on it, just like any other appreciating asset. If he lost money, he won't owe anything and he could write off the capital loss against any other capital gain. Nothing weird or sinister about buying and selling metals or any other lawful asset.

>>56300664
Go through and try to account for your metals. The burden is on you and not the IRS to faithfully report any potential gains you have got. I know you claim losses but you will have to prove that to them. They are just trying to keep everything fair, there aren’t some big evil entity or anything like that. IRS agents are actually pretty nice and above average intelligence, many are holders of PMs as well.

>>56295652
If you really want silver in the UK, at the very least buy VAT free items (i.e. 2nd hand) from Atkinsons. The price isn't usually much better, buy at least you're not paying tax to this government.

>>56300749
How many people on this general alone even keep track of that shit. It’s going to fuck people up. This is one example.

>>56300797
i don't speak for everyone in pmg, but, uh, taxes? lmfao

>>56295652
in germoney you pay tax as well. a couple weeks ago some anon said silver is the best thing you can buy in germany, or the other way around maybe, that germany is the best place to buy silver from. dont know why when you pay so much tax on them

>>56296216
assuming you use 4chanX, put /1024x1024/;type:dimensions; in your filters. this will cover the majority of the recent dall-e 3 spam.

>>56300706
Thanks again for your input.
One last one if I may-
>old man accumulates PM's throughout his life
>old man documents nothing, just has fat stacks
>old man gives PM fat stacks to male offspring upon his death
>no will or documentation for that either, just a verbal statement to the inheriting son
>son sells inherited PMs fat stack
>son drives straight to Wells Jewgo and pays off mortgage
>son goes home to take a nap

Is there any problem with that scenario? This is in a very southern red state. DO they require someone to pay tax on inherited PM's they sell?
If I inherit a brand new mercedes from a family member, and I then sell it 1 year later, do I pay tax on that? I don't recall ever paying tax on a car I've sold.

>>56299161
sell it in person?
>inb4 getting stabbed and robbed
dont sell to niggers

>bond yields surge
>silber goes ...... up
What mean bros?

>>56300877
Depends on the state, but this is actually a pretty good situation. I *think* it’s capitol gains from the time of inheritance to the selling of the asset. The limit is like 10million or something. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.

>>56300770
glowing hands typed this post

>>56300749
>If he lost money, he won't owe anything and he could write off the capital loss against any other capital gain.
That is the thing, I know I am losing money on the sale but didn't document shit. Who the fuck does that. Maybe I have receipts but I don't want to break the fucking law. Believe me I hate this shit but if I'm going to jail, it isn't going to because the IRS says I defrauded them. Is it good enough that I believe I have lost. Can I just say so? Why the fuck would i need to prove I didn't do something, (prove I did not owe), that is basically what they would be saying, "Prove you don't owe." That would be akin to, "Prove you didn't commit this crime." No that is not how it works. They government has to say I commited the crime and prove it by offering what they think is proof. Then I can counterdict their proof. Why is it backwars with the IRS?
Also, am I not bearing witness against myself if I am forced to report income that may be from an illegal source? Like Al Capone, they got him on tax evasion. Couldn't it be argued that his income came from a criminal organization, and to claim that as income he would be admitted to a crime. Therefore to make him report his income would constitute depriving him of his right to not be forced to bear witness against himself.
Look I am not trying to go down the philosophical anti-IRS argument here, I just want to get some money back for something I need done and not pay the government more money on a loss!

>>56300797
Exactly! How would you cash out if you did?

>>56300962
Look. They are just trying to make sure people aren’t laundering money. If you don’t want to pay taxes on precious metals, just don’t invest in precious metals. If silver actually moons they are going to be on so much ass it’s going to make your head spin. Keep track of your shit anons.

>>56300999
Preferable in a format which can easily be taken from without much effort so they can get it and verify themselves. A google doc is a good place, they can grab that real quick just to see how much you owe them. Makes it easy for both parties.

>>56300770
>t.

>>56300196
Wow Anon... that's a lot to unpack
First, WF is not going to take your PMs as payment. You'll have to sell it first.
If you pay with cash, the bank won't have to do any reporting until you submit more than $10k in one lump. The tricky bit is why you're paying on two occasions: you might trigger a "suspicious activity" report (unless you have an obvious reason) as one who is evading the $10k cash reporting trigger. To avoid that, accept a check from the LCS (or wherever) when you sell the PMs, and deposit that into your account. That will not be treated like cash and the $10k limit does not apply.
> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/x6k-GMUC_UU
Then if you're going to report for capital gains tax, there's the question of profit. Doesn't matter what you believe is your gain/loss. If you get audited you'll need proof - sales receipts. If you don't have any, the gov't will assume you acquired them through inheritance or as payment for favors/work done... point being you'll owe taxes on all of it because there is no way to calculate a profit. You may be able to fight this, but it'll take work and probably cost you lawyers. Then you have to decide what costs more - taxes on the full amount, or the lawyer's fees?
I hope your situation helps motivate the conspiracists here to think twice about not keeping records and receipts.

>>56300962
>selling your stack
Alright. Well there’s your first mistake.

>>56300962
just sell in private, anonymously. yeah, if you suddenly get a fat stack of money and waddle up to wells fargo with it its no surprise people will get the IRS will get suspicious. if you dont want that, just keep it on the down low.

>>56301033
Wow. Very great response. Thank you. Let me propose a hypothetical for you:
>man has PMs
>man sells PMs to LCS and receives cashiers check for $XX,XXX
>man deposits cashiers check into bank account
>man uses bank account funds to pay off mortgage
>man takes nap
>man receives letter from IRS asking what the $XX,XXX cashiers check is all about
>man has photographic memory and uses pencil and paper to document all his PMS purchases pre-sale to LCS, and mails that document to IRS
-pencil written document shows man sold for a slight loss on all PMs

Any thoughts on that? Thanks again for you thoughtful and detailed response.

>>56301089
hear you bro. I am trying to do that but I am not familiar with the system. I feel confident I can do what you describe but I also have gotten surprise letters from the IRS in the past and they spark dread. I am trying to avoid that.

>>56300196
Funny that you got a purple ID when posting this image.

>>56300196
A simple way to avoid all this is by depositing the extra money in a couple of different bank accounts at completely different banks they have no access to, and then moving the money to your other bank for the mortgage at different times, i would say more than a month apart for two large sums, and pay it, or do small weekly installments like 1000$ a week, in all seriousness, the bank will not care for such a small sum, 18k is not a lot of money, they don't want the IRS getting involved either

>>56301148
>Any thoughts on that?
Two: 1) A cashier's check is treated like cash. The bank will report it on IRS Form 8300. Get a company check from the LCS.
2) Having eidetic memory is useful in many instances, but not here. A hand-written note saying 'your dog ate the homework' won't fly with them.

>>56300962
2 times 9 grand does not an Al Capone make. You're worrying too much. If it will make you feel better, sell your stack for cash, go to a casino, turn your cash into chips, 2 hour later convert those chips back to money and get a receipt.

>>56301258
No one do this. Lmao.

>>56301295
>>56301258
>No one do this. Lmao.
Why would no one do this or would this not be advisable?

>>56301265
If it's over $10k, the casino will still report it to the IRS. You'd be paying CGT on the full amount.
Perhaps splitting the cash between a couple of casinos...
For the ultra-paranoid, there might be a trigger comparing how much gambling was actually done in the casino vs how much you're cashing out. Remember - casinos were born out of those who are gangsters and are professionals at financial fuckery.

the albert is in very good condition. i am pleased.

>>56301358
Finally. A post about PMs instead of retards arguing with literal IRS agents lmao.
With that being said. I slurped a little today and bought a tube of 2023 silver Britannias. Quite pleased with the price.

>>56301339
Oh yeah, I was in a UK mindset (no tax on winnings). Still, as you say, spread it around a bit.

>>56301629
>no tax on winnings
What? That's amazing!

>>56301594
I was going to wait for the weekend, but it's already pumping (at the same exact time the off-topic fudders showed up in this thread, really makes you think).
So I guess I'll try again next week, after all this bullshit jobs data gets revised and markets tank again.
Also here's an interesting coin. Price isn't so great (they want like 33 euros for it) but I can't get canadian junk easily here so might buy it. I don't have very many canadian coins, just 26 maples, the 2 oz werewolf, and the 2017 lynx.

>>56301594
>Dealing with consequences of making PMs financially practical isn't about PMs.

>>56301800
>at the same exact time the off-topic fudders showed up in this thread, really makes you think).
Kek check the catalog too. Lots of fud today.
>>56301809
Anyone who would actually consider selling their stack for fiat, or convince anyone else to, doesn’t belong here. Eat shit nigger.

>>56301771
If you didn't earn it, it's not considered earnings. One of the few areas were they don't take any opportunity to fuck you - so no doubt it will change in the future.

>>56301875
>3 posts, no content other than being an asshole

>>56300842
There's no tax after holding for a year. There's VAT for silver, but not really for silver coins. Junk is mostly close to spot.

Hope you all slurped this week, I don't see it dipping any more

I like to have some historical perspective. Here's $5 in gold and $5 in silver.

>>56301875
>selling their stack for fiat
When it 4xs then I'd start selling rounds one at a time for luxury meals to treat myself.

>>56302085
From another view point.

This anon is saying you guys financially ruined him? Why would you do that?
>>56301767

>>56302085
>15.91 grams of silver to 1 gram of gold
Close to nature's ratio.

>>56302129
>buy mining stocks
Uhhh we advocate for physical PMs. /cmg/ is more mining stock territory.

>>56302150
so 16 to 1 is the real ratio?, damn, i have been stacking at 50toz silver to 1toz gold ratio, i need to buy more gold

>>56302129
>retard doesn't know the difference between mining stocks and physical metal

>>56302186
Allegedly for what's above and below the ground. I'd buy more silver since it has a much better potential for higher gains.

>>56302186
No you don't. If that is the real ration and the current ratio is like 80 then you need to be exclusively stacking silver. The price can fluctuate all it wants but so long as you trade these ratios then you can end up with more metal than if you initially diversify.
I'm closer to like 600:1 personally. I wouldn't entirely liquidate my gold for silver but there is a compelling case to do so.
Some people even claim the mining ratios are closer to 8:1

>>56302186
Here are some .900 silver 5 francs "hercule" coins from the same era >>56291447 (more pics in previous thread).
There were also other designs of similar 5 francs coins (napoleon, ceres, louis philippe...) with the same exact 22.5 g silver content. So they're basically the same coins.
I don't have any 20 francs gold coins from that era to post with them, but those all have 5.8 g gold. So the ratio is very similar:
one 20 Fr gold coin (5.8 g) = four 5 Fr silver coins (22.5 g)
22.5 * 4 / 5.8 = 15.51724

>>56301265
If this guy's mortgage is $9k/month I assume he's already moving larger amounts of money around through his bank regularly. I don't think they'll care much, and as others have said, just get a check from the coin shop is all. Maybe hit a few places and only sell 4oz at each if the $10k thing is a concern. Deposit checks with your phone or an ATM and pay the mortgage online after the checks clear. I doubt it's gonna raise any red flags.

Mined with negro tears.

>>56301800
Ya, I should probably hold off on buying more rn since I quit my job a couple weeks ago and don't really feel like going back to work just yet. I'm still grabbing a 10 more oz of fractional and some of those 1oz federal reserve bars if it hits $20 next week though lol.

>>56302129
>Stocks

>>56302583
Why did you quit your job?

>>56302569
Sweet. My birth year.

>>56302453
I would like to diversify in sovereigns and francs. I really like the bottom left in that image. I have one US coin that I want to get 1st though.

>>56302721
A terrible coworker who then became my boss. I made it 1 week after he was given manager power and I put my notice in lol. I can go back to my old job in January when the guy doing it retires but i don't really want to work for anyone. I owned a business for years so I'm just taking a little time to plan my next move. Hopefully I get a great idea or something.

Bros I just got a tube of brand new shiny 23 Britannias for 25.07/ozt feeling pretty good.

>>56303037
Sweet. Is this picture what you see? Looks roughed up with sandpaper or something.

>>56303037
Just got more generics at spot. Stack liquidators on eBay.

>4chan dot org slash biz slash catalog
>ctrl f pmg
>0 results

you fucked up OP

>>56301800
checked but that isnt canadian junk, its pure.

>>56303084
Nah the lighting was weird last night.

>>56303037
Nice fingerprints, anon.

>>56303037
I just don't like Chuck's ugly mug on my coins

>>56303174
You can see my fingerprint on them lol

time for a new thread (title included edition)
>>56303195
>>56303195
>>56303195

>>56303129
I apologize.

>>56303174
Cool then.

>>56303129
>not doing 4chan dot org slash biz slash pmg
ngmi

>>56303202
I'm sorry about that.
Thanks for baking.

>>56301358
>the albert is in very good condition
fuck yeah, it is....

>>56301594
post receipt, fag.