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Which is the best L1 token that you channers are holding and buying?
If L1s are efficient, scalable, fast, cheap, and secure, will we need L2s?
Is there any L1 that has this kind of potential?
Will there be one, at least in the future?

>> No.56255234

>>56255221
It's called Monero

>> No.56255244

>>56255221
Why do you give a shit? Stupid question. All that matters is whether number go up or not.

>> No.56255260

Perfectly substitutable crap
At 0 cost
Trilemma unsolvable
Oracle problem in a non walled garden unsolvable
Crypto in its entirety failed

Just an inferior database

>> No.56255274

>>56255260
your "superior" database has an untenable cost we are unwilling to pay

>> No.56255288

>>56255221
Yes Avalanche. Its fast, efficient, scalable infinitely and secure and is the only thing in crypto to have solved the 'trilemma' faced here. It is unironically absolutely revolutionary, just as Ethereum was and BTC before it. Its likely that there will still be other chains used in the future, but at the moment there isn't really any reason for them to exist (except for scams/spam transactions on low-fee chains I guess).
>>56255260
trilemma is solved. oracle problem solved. what year are you living in lol?

>> No.56255317

>>56255274
Is that "we" in the room with you now?
And on the theme of "costs", no sane user is willing to pay for every data entry (state change) lik the crapto tards expect
>>56255288
No it isn't. There are band aids which all inherit the trilemma issue and about the oracle problem, not solvable without white lists, so not solvable in a permissionless way, which, if one would assume that crapto databases would be useful, which they are not from a user perspective, its unsolvable

But religious silicone valley commutards ironically still believe that the capital optimization problem is solvable

Can't wait for that entire "industry" to go bankrupt

>> No.56255322

>>56255221
i know what the best L1 is but i'm not gonna tell you OP. you have to work for it

>> No.56255408

>>56255322
don't tell if it's LUKSO or KAS or some illiquid shitcoin with DAG and green energy BS. but if u made it so far pls shill your L1 i am all ears

>> No.56255417

>>56255322
Absolutely, no one is gonna spoon-feed imbecile here
Kek

>> No.56255425

>>56255408
Of course he meand those mongoloid non solutions. Really, read into what the cult of "effective altruism" is. In short, a bunch of retards with too much money that got brainwashed by charlatans into being "green" commutards

>> No.56255443

>>56255260
Scumbag trying to get numbskull attentions with his shitty talk

>>56255288
Have you seen the Qanplatform's private blockchain that was launched last month, it is absolutely revolutionary with security at its peak.

>> No.56255463

>>56255322
Let me burst your bubble chad, The best and the most complete L1 is Qanplatform

>> No.56255472

>>56255443
Its the truth. The entire 15 years since Craig Wright larper as satoshi in the mailing group and on bitcointalk has been a waste if time. Not the worst, but effectively non of the fundamental technical problems of blockchain databases is solvable at the bottom, just bandaids that always inherit the problem.

>> No.56255473

>>56255221
SAITO is an L1 like no other

>> No.56255525

>>56255221
Any L1 that is not post quantum cryptography has no future.

>> No.56255539

>>56255525
Reads like a bot post
Define quantum computing in your own words

>> No.56255546

>>56255221
I'm bagging RWA, P2E, Metaverse and Defi narratives, won't I still make it in life??

>> No.56255575

>>56255546
>Metaverse
I hold ETH and I'm not in any way afraid of how low the price can go as I also diversify into an ecosystem like Futureverse with 11 active projects full of potential. If you are a fucked up faint-hearted the crypto is not for you pussy

>> No.56255617

>>56255234
Do you plan to stay poor? Now is the best time to amass significant gains as QANX has been trending on relevant crypto pages since the recent private blockchain launch.

>> No.56255652

>>56255546
Hope you're holding JEDI, it will create fresh volume, holders, burns and value on one of the most under priced gems on DEFI. Keep an eye on it.

>> No.56255704

>>56255539
You're concern about the definition of quantum computing, what will you do when the quantum computer attack comes?

>> No.56255720

>>56255221
Having a cross-chain bridgeless oracle is a significant development and a game-changer in the blockchain data industry. Buy LINK or SUPRA

>> No.56255801

>>56255704
Stop hopping IPs you bot and define as explain in your own words what quantum computing is. You can't because you are a parrot bot

>> No.56255834

>>56255539
Hey moron, that's simply the use of quantum states of subatomic particles to store information. But be wary of quantum attack in no time.

>> No.56255843

>>56255834
Okay, and fault rate is on available iirc atm somewhere around 70%. And yes I'm aware of the research, I think a few germs pretend to have managed to get it below 20%. Still in a total experimental state and outside of very niche specialized application, worthless. Just another funding scam to scam boomers out of risk capital with "its da futuar" pitches
Now go back to /g/ and be ignored

>> No.56255859

>>56255221
Who still holds crypto? It isn't safe anymore.

>> No.56255878
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>>56255834
Wary of what benzofag, an L1 quantum resistant blockchain just launched its private blockchain and Librescan last month, so I've got no worries.

>> No.56255895

>>56255859
I keep hearing this from fags, whereas DiD, privacy and security is solving this issue. Get more brains fucktard

>> No.56255930

>>56255859
Its not about safety. Crapto is just a ponzi on inferior databases that run out of suckers. The retardation and pump and dump scams did the rest to destroy trust in this either straight out scam market or unregistered perpetual pre-ipo funding scheme. There is no demand from suckers to touch that crap with a 10 foot pole

>> No.56255938

>>56255859
That's where Librescan comes in. With privacy and security, blockchain now feels safe.

>> No.56255952

>>56255575
I thought Metaverse is dead? Why am I having this mix feeling as the next cycle looks possible.

>> No.56255962

>>56255221
I don't care about L1 or any shit, I care about features in blockchains.

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>>56255930
Keep complaining about crypto while I continue increasing my networth with QANX, earning a lifetime royalty reward melting faces.

>> No.56255990

>>56255962
Then checkout mochain.app. i bet not many have heard of it, which is a shame.

>> No.56255995

>>56255546
OGBX is still the biggest name in Metaverse, imagine having gaming, NFTs, and virtual experiences. This is sweet as fuck.

>> No.56256000

>>56255962
Librescan, PoR and hyperpolyglot, don't fucking joke with these features.

>> No.56256009

>>56255720
Oracles are a great solution in the crypto space. It's just another mover for the next bull run.

>> No.56256031

>>56255221
>Will there be one, at least in the future?
Pepechain will be it.

>> No.56256036 [DELETED] 

>>56255720
With so many questions surrounding Oracle, It's high time normies prioritize LibreScan, this is where users can maintain their privacy while interacting with blockchain networks.

>> No.56256091

>>56255952
Why wait on metaverse when smartfags are making life out of PoR consensus algorithm which is eco-friendly, highly scalable and economical.

>> No.56256099

>>56255952
Far from your only hope newfag. Use crypto analysis platforms like Lunar Crush and Tokenmetrics to find out how many gems you're sleeping on, and stop being a retard.

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>>56255720
With so many questions surrounding data industry, It's high time normies prioritize LibreScan, this is where users can maintain their privacy while interacting with blockchain networks.

>> No.56256134

>>56255221
If you've not thought of Avalanche then you're gonna miss out on something massive.

>> No.56256140

Are you not aware of shimmer EVM? Hathor, Iota nano? They are all fee free layer ones with instant transactions. Where have you been. People are flipping iota and smr fee free on soonaverse at any spread. ANY spread

>> No.56256155

>>56255952
I have no doubt anon, EVR is trending and it's playing a big role in the Metaverse tech. Anticipation is already high as it'll be listed on MEXC on Wednesday. Don't sleep on this.

>> No.56256209

>>56255221
Yes, Algorand.
I've built on it (as I did with Ethereum, Fantom, Skale, Avalanche, Polygon)
Algo is the most reliable for developers, no downtime, very smooth. The worst was Avalanche & Fantom

>> No.56256214

Bonus for SKALE: extremely great environement & sustainable L2.

>> No.56256319

why do I even bother replying lmao, it's only a bot or retard thread. Biz is fucking dead, jannies you fucking suck, 8000 posts per DAY lmao, fucking pathetic

>> No.56256380

>>56256319
Twitter is also dead. Every platform is dead. And the next stage is silicone valley scammers, tech bruhs, administrators, "experts" and journalists getting beaten to dead

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>>56255234

>> No.56256518

>>56255990
>i bet not many have heard of it, which is a shame.

Prob 'cause it's trash, bro. That's why it's flying under the radar. Smart money ain't tossing stacks at chains like this, no way. Jump on the QAN train if you wanna know what a solid chain tastes like.

>> No.56256562

>>56255473
You must be high on some cheap ruffees. SAITO is dead and there's nothing you can do about that.
You're better off with tokens of Defi protocols that have trending products that the whole market can leverage on especially those launching newer versions of previously successful products.

>> No.56256586

>>56255417
KEK

>> No.56256657

>>56255801
It's like the boogeyman for encryption, you know? Super fast and spooky. It's all good to be hyped, but we gotta stay ahead of the quantum threat, or we're toast and stop being paranoid about IPs. hahaha

>> No.56256706

>>56256155
Fingers crossed, 4th October is the Dday

>> No.56256723

Hedera is an L0 larping as an L1 due to low iq niggers still in crypto

>> No.56256744
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56256744

>>56255463
This thing's been making waves on CG lately. Word on the street is, it's the next big deal.

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>>56255525
Haha, I'm vibing hard with those projects, especially Algo and the one that just dropped Librescan. But you can't sleep on those based L1 gems like INJ and KAS—no post-quantum cryptography, just straight alpha moves.

>> No.56256827

>>56256155
>EVR is trending and it's playing a big role in the Metaverse tech.
What's the role or just some other unexplainable shit.

>> No.56256843

>>56255720
2015 faggot here, been D.C.A'ing into ICP for years.

>> No.56256877

>>56256843
I'm in crypto since 2013 and consider myself a newfag. Oldfags were in pre-2013 when you still could mine it at home. In 2013 Bitcoin was already all over the Reddit frontpage. And if you joined in 2015 or later you are not a newfag but just a tech-illiterate normie.

>> No.56256887

>>56255962
What are the advantages of holding crypto as opposed to equity?

>> No.56256915

>>56256209
>Algo is the most reliable for developers, no downtime, very smooth.

Bro, you haven't tapped into the multi-programming language mojo of QanPlatform? It should be top-tier on your list by now.

>> No.56257008

>>56256134
There is nothing much going on Avalanche lately. I don't see the reason to be super hyped about it. There are many L1 projects that are miles ahead of them when it comes to USPs and continuous developments.

>> No.56257113

>>56256091
That eco-friendly vibe is the real deal – proof that we're gaming the system without trashing the planet.

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>>56256843
You should also push for OGBX on pinksale if you want to be successful in crypto.

>> No.56257260

>>56255221
There is only one and you already know it
Bitcoin

>> No.56257348

>>56256380
Quit the larping, man. You should be way more concerned about what quantum computers could unleash in this space. Shit's real.

>> No.56257406

>>56256827
Better dyor before you lose out on a lifetime fortune. The staking rewards will sure melt faces.

>> No.56257437

>>56257235
I'm done following projects on Pinksale. There have been a lot of rugs there lately.

>> No.56257592

>>56255221
QANX or nothing else

>> No.56257618
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56257618

>>56255234
KEK

>> No.56257735

>>56255525
QCT is becoming really scary, even BTC isn't quantum-resistant. We are all fucked

>> No.56257819

As far as I understand quantum breaks elliptic curve cryptography (secp256k1) but doesn't affect hashes (SHA256) that much. If quantum suddenly made a leap couldn't Bitcoin just start using different addresses that aren't ECDSA? What's the big problem here? Are there any big brain people left on /biz/ to answer?

>> No.56257976

>>56257437
So many rugs but not OGBX. Dyor anon, it has received endorsements from Google, BNB Chain, and Mario Nawfal

>> No.56258014

>>56255221
Yes it's called Cosmos, but it doesn't mean the token itself has to be worth a lot of money

>> No.56258022

>>56257819
It isn't that easy you moron. Post quantum cryptography is the solution to keep our investments safe.

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>>56257735
Not really faggot we now have quantum resistant blockchain like QAN which is actually a fucking solution to avoid the quantum threats.

>> No.56258102

>>56258022
If you can't explain it simply and in few words, you don't understand it. What's the big problem of Bitcoin changing to quantum safe cryptography?
>b-but you have to buy t-this coin that's designed specifically for quantum
Fuck off

>> No.56258120

honest question : is ringsnetwork somehow worth the feature set ?

>> No.56258150

>>56258058
You QANX shills stand out like a nigger at a klans meeting

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>>56257592
BASED

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>>56258150
Kek, faggot is feeling threatened because QAN is gaining traction

>> No.56258498

>>56255938
I had about this, the one of the first decentralized blockchain explorers ever, I must say Blockchain Tech is improving really fast

>> No.56258527

>>56255417
You are dumb

>> No.56258597

>>56255463
Quantum resistant
Allows Devs to code smart contracts in any programming Language
Launched the first decentralized blockchain explorer, yes I think I'm convinced

>> No.56258638

MTV gonna be the best L1 on the market ofc

>> No.56258751

>>56257735
We aren't really fucked, there are quantum resistant blockchains already

>> No.56259037

>>56257592
I made 3X on it this year

>> No.56259079

>>56258638
Wtf is that actually, I personally believe Tara and QAN will be the best L1s in the space absolutely

>> No.56259114

>>56259037
Tbh I am bullish af with the current development desu the launch of the private blockchain and Librescan was really brilliant if you ask me. The adoption is going to be significant I am sure.

>> No.56259627

>>56258597
Not only you anon, this L1 blockchain is going to be a fucking game changer in the web3 space. I am expecting fucking diabolical adoption soon.

>> No.56260201

>>56255221
Against all the fucking fud around SOL is on the rise no shit it's pumping and it's got huge potential absolutely

>> No.56260233

>>56260201
Sol is just pure bull shit ass hole Against the quantum threats it wouldn't stand a chance. Only a quantum-resistant blockchain platform like QAN can survive you moronic bitch

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>>56260233
The mainnet isn't live yet and these stupid quantum threats are far fetched you fool.

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>>56260298
You are just a ignorant fool and you will get rekt. Post quantum cryptography is the future and QAN is making it easily accessible even for a 8 year old.

>> No.56260344

>>56255221

pulsechain obviously. .

>> No.56260348

>>56255221
ETH
yes
no

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>>56260318
Holding QANX is the best decision I have taken desu ngl. The adoption is going to be frigging absolute. I have no 2nd thoughts on that, the private blockchain is live and even the Librescan is live for the good setting a frigging cool benchmark among other stupid L1s.

>> No.56260481

>>56255221
>If L1s are efficient, scalable, fast, cheap, and secure, will we need L2s?
they won't

>> No.56260608

>>56255221
>Which is the best L1 token that you channers are holding and buying?
<what is bitcoin?
>If L1s are efficient, scalable, fast, cheap, and secure, will we need L2s?
They won't.
>efficient, scalable, fast, cheap,
they are btw all the same. It's scalability we are talking about.
You need it to be: secure and decentral, that is all.
scalability comes with L2s und L3s. This is a trade of here. Never heard the blockchain trilemma?
Bitcoin is the only "solving" it.
First you need security because without security it is fraud and there is no purpose on it, ok?
Second you need decentralization, because that is what blockchain is made for, otherwise you do not need blockchain, you can just use a central databank on any server. Otherwise it makes no sense.
You need those two the most. Thirdly, of course you need scalability but you can afford to lose that one the most, because the other two are more important. So you get scalablity on L2s. On L2s you can leverage on Scalability and maybe security or scalablity and decentralization, one of the two.
>Is there any L1 that has this kind of potential?
There is no Blockchain L1 that solves the blockchain trilemma or scalability trilemma at the moment. Not in its inner and perfect sense. The one blockchain that solves it the best is and always will be bitcoin. Other blockchains just pretend to be solving it, to gain the gaines and suck all moneys out of you, but the probably never will solve it. OR: if so, it will be solves faster on the bitcoin blockchain because thausends and ten thausends of people are working on it while on most other blockchains you have just some developers.

>Will there be one, at least in the future?
We will never know. Why you give a shit? Just use Bitcoin and LN.

>> No.56260666

>>56255221
>Is there any L1 that has this kind of potential?
The only one would be PoS Systems like Ethereum. Whoever gets here first, will have the first-mover advantage. So yes, the only one with potential here would be Ethereum. But be alarmed, it is not as secure and as decentral as bitcoin is and never will be. So if you choose a L2 anyway and the L1 does not matter so much to you, you would probably choose bitcoin.

>> No.56260709

>>56255288
>trilemma is solved. oracle problem solved. what year are you living in lol?
Explain us. Who solved it and how exactly? If you really believe it you must be able to explain it.
You probabaly read some paper about avalanche that solved the trilemma. I think they did not.
Science here is always any interested-lead "science" so never really objective. How can you trust them?

>> No.56262727

>>56257437
Kek, best to dyor before investments. That's how I came across based gems like Inj, Xtp, Ltc, and Arb for future profits.

>> No.56262839

>>56255221
Bitcoin
No
Cardano, but it isn't going to make you rich.

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56263524

Kava but both ETH niggers and AVAX roaches just won't admit it. And it's annoying.
>WAGMI pool happens to decide between ETH and KAVA as their mainnet
>ETH wins by like 0.6% because these faggots apparently simply love high fees, long waiting times and overall mediocrity in the name of brand recognition
It's fucking pathetic in all honesty. Kava is not even it's "own thing", it's a co-chain that merges Eth and Atom together. Literally all the good from Ethereum with the fast transactions and low fees of Cosmos. But "I've never heard the name so it must be a gay scam". Faggots.