/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>56233358
GameStop.

>>56233383
Why their original baker doesn't just sit in the catalog and countersnipe is beyond me. Even further away is how it's been allowed to happen for days on end to multiple general threads. I'm just glad there's a real /smg/ in the catalog again.

Anybody trade a companys stock to own more shares of it? I don't think you can reasonably identify the next tesla or google and find it more fun to get more shares for free.

FUCKING HEAL ALREADY

>>56234044
This is precisely how it heals

>>56234078
Based. Sensible P/E ratios incoming.

>>56233404
>Why their original baker doesn't just sit in the catalog and countersnipe is beyond me.
The splitter was baking in the 200's post range, seems he's also been fucking with us as both the generals got jannied at the same time. .

Please buy. Tell the lizard people to buyyyyy

Can't believe the last thread crashed ON NO NEWS

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>>56234119
Got jannied.

fuck this gay and fake pump

>>56234122
zooming in as we speak

real thread
>>56234144

>>56234144

>>56234144

>>56233616
One day I will own every single WM, PEP, and ROL share in existence. I buy on ever dip, sell on every bounce, then reload for a little bit more on the next dip. I will not be denied my destiny

>>56234126
And after I gave everyone the bottom tick on CCJ too. Man, whatever we're paying the janny is too much.

lol fucking phoney bitches
if i dont get my vix money today ill get it on monday big, i dont care

>>56234161
>WM
Aim high, stick a "T" on the end.

>>56234126
For a reason. The scammers that bought /biz/ in late '20 are slowly getting that their (((operatives))) have no influence

>>56234161
>>56234180
What was that Peter Lynch axiom? People undervalue waste management businesses cause they're associated with the mafia?

>>56234177
Yeah it got jannied for retarded reasons too, and while it's a good feeling predicting the bottom tick you shouldn't ever jinx it.

>>56234201
I suppose. Guess we'll see in half an hour when Numerco updates. And EOD when window dressing finishes.

>>56234044
100-day average crossing over the 18-day average (downward). RSI oversold and remains so... which means --> very bearish momentum I'd say. Hopefully the market corrects a bit so we can buy cheapies (since a lot of companies are trading at very low P/Es already we are gonna get an even greater sale).
>https://wolfstreet.com/2023/09/28/another-recession-indicator-refuses-to-see-a-recession-corporate-profits-without-federal-reserve-banks-hit-record/
Things are good and they will remain good. Just buy the dip and enjoy your steady gainz :)

Who posted cunny in the last thread?

>>56234222
>Implying 3600 won't be touched
There is another leg down, and if that leg breaks something its 1800

>>56234195
That sounds like something people would say. I love those kinds of businesses. Dirty unglamorous work nobody else wants to but absolutely has to be done for society to function. Those are the kinds of stocks that go up in a pretty much straight line with minimal volatility. The vol is so low I have to use a 500 day moving average for risk management since it rides the 200 day too closely. I love it. If people are worried about gains then either swing trade it or use LEAPS. There is no better trade in my opinion. My favorite list to choose from is pic related. Not everything in there is perfection but those are the kinds of stocks I like

>>56234231
No one, the baker of that thread has been fucking with the baggies in /GME/ and trying to instigate a raid between her and them the last few days. So he got jannied.

>Buy Rumble months ago hoping it would go back up to $10
>Steadily gone down since

I hate blatant stock manipulation.

>>56234222
>since a lot of companies are trading at very low P/Es already we are gonna get an even greater sale
Name 3

>>56234222
PFFFHAHAHAHAHA

>>56234249
>instigate a raid between here and them the last few days.

>>56234249
That's no reason to nuke the entire thread
Unless lazy mod just clicked "delete all posts"

>>56233358
I'm cash gang since 2021 Bros.
Still not regretting it, it WILL dump

>>56234290
>Unless lazy mod just clicked "delete all posts"
I believe that's what happened.

>>56234255
>website devoid of most of the content people actually want/need other than a bunch of edgelords
>built entirely on the transfer of large amounts of data in terms of file size and bandwidth
>stock is shitty
>muh blatant manipulation

QQQ started pumping the VERY SECOND I placed a short expecting a sour hour dump
I'm gonna hold on to it until 5 minutes to close
I swear to God if they don't dump it

>>56234222
>>56234044
We havent gotten capitulation yet. I think we make one more drive down through next week, which setups up bullish divergence on higher timeframe then a bigger pump rally.

>>56234313
always cracksme up when techoids think their shit is worth anything because it exists and it's new

>>56234334
did you even analyze the chart

I shorted the bottom ( again) . How should i COPE?

>>56234338
How does a queer like you know? This bubble is going to keep getting propped up until the twitch streamers, diversity hires, and onlyfans skanks retire and you dumbasses stay broke.

>>56234255
>>Buy Rumble months ago hoping it would go back up to $10
>>Steadily gone down since
Have you considered selling? Holding a stock that's going down kinda sucks. Best to buy a stock that's going up and hold that instead

>>56234369
buy 50 shares of overleveraged semiconductors as penance

>>56234369
By closing your position at a loss and then longing the top.

>>56234375

>>56234369
Just do the opposite of your intuition next time.

>>56234348
The result of 15 years of QE, Boomers with too much liquidity getting scammed by "it's da future" pitches and the fail pedagogy of "every faggot gets a medal"
Teachers need to bully the next generation again instead of telling them how wonderful those little shit heads are, Beta needs to get a slap on the fingers and ridiculed.

Someone please explain the bobo perspective.
How are people bearish when the underlying $ backing the assets are programmed to debase YoY?

>>56234410
Check bids, p/c ratios and 0dte. Market fakers won't say no to free liquidity by shit head day traders overleveraged on margins being free meals high on hopium

>>56234406

holy shit based mods, fuck gme trash

>>56234410
I am no bear. I am no bull. I only trade what the market tells me.

>>56234092
If what the doomers are saying about the debt repayments, tax receipts, PMI, and a fuckton of other macro data points, low p/e yields would be the least bad outcome.

>>56234410
my angle is that tourism bout to go way down and with that airbnb and then housing will start to do weird shit as those owners go belly up. i haven't done any real in-depth dive on it, its just a hunch

>>56234353
I KNOW RSI WAS LOW
I KNEW IT
BUT IT JUST KEPT DUMPING REGARDLESS
WHY THE FUCK DOES IT GET TO DECIDE TO CARE ABOUT FUCKING RSI THE VERY MOMENT I OPEN A POSITION

>>56234472
>using rsi in isolation
deserved

>>56234465
>least bad outcome
Low P/Es are not a bad outcome at all.

>>56234446
The moral wasn't that Private Paula would have needed some ass pattings and love, but that he was an unfortunate exception of the norm, while the rest of the company profited from the drill sergeant. Imagine a bunch of homos would have been sent to Nam.

>>56234472
>goombling

>>56234472
rsi is a scam and rsitoshi is a scammer.

>>56234485
>that's the point.jpg

>>56234489
They really just needed to easily and immediately recognize that he was not suited to combat at all, but could be a great fit for kitchen patrol. Everyone has their own strengths and weaknesses, there's no need to write them off entirely for not fitting only one particular role out of all that is needed.

>>56234499
>uses the wrong words to make her points

>>56234410
I look at the sorry state of the world, form a nuanced sophisticated macroeconomic opinion then summarily ignore it. If you graphed the accuracy rate of every guru you've ever heard of, every fed chair and committee member that ever existed, and every economic nobel laureate on a bell curve it would amount to a standard deviation with a 50/50 chance of any particular opinion being right or wrong. Nobody knows where interest rates, GDP, corporate earnings, or anything else will be next month much less next year.
Throw all that shit away and do one simple thing. Look at the price. Is it going down? Sell. Is it going up? Buy. As simple as it is. Right now, what is price doing? Figure that out and you will know the bobo thesis

close @290 the chart looks like absolute garbage but its just completly manipulated

Fear of a recession is what causes a recession, fear being at an all time high means we are in recession, if not depression, already. Just because the indices are up doesn't mean the economy isn't recessionary, it just means inflation is keeping the indices afloat, they are actually losing significant value year over year since 2020.

Just because the Biden administration doesn't want to admit that they are presiding over a recessionary economy doesn't mean it isn't one. This is the recession, we are in the midst of it already, and everybody is getting fucked bears included because inflation is obfuscating the true direction of the market (down, constantly).

>>56234562
Politics has evolved since the housing crisis, Biden knew he could hide his recession with inflation and that is what he did, that is why the money printers kept printing, not necessarily to bail anyone out but to keep securities "level", while the dollar takes the hit instead.

Just rolled over my entire retirement savings into SQQQ. Literally, unironically.

>>56234578
Post proof gayfrog

>>56234562
>if not depression
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeit. What were you, not even born during the Great Recession little kid? We are nowhere even close to being in a depression.

>>56234531
>not bad
>least bad
>acts like these are fundamentally different in making the point I was making
Oh, ESL anon.

>>56234523
Agree, but iirc he was a volunteer, and wanted to go into combat - he could have quit or applied to another role at so many points but chose to stick around and go into madness. One can't just shift all responsibility to the supervisor, the individual also has responsibility and should be able to recognize when the path he took was wrong.

Anyway, the pedagogy applied on younger zoomers and Alpha was a disaster, you can clearly see the difference between older zoomers and younger zoomers. The former were still raised in the way Millennials and GenX was raised, if they did shit they got told they did shit and had to eat shit

>>56234578
ride the tiger baby

>United Airlines, $UAL, pilots approve new contract with up to 40% raises

>Shoppers are spending less on discretionary products and more on essentials at dollar stores, per BI.

>67% of parents spend 20% or more of household income on child care, per CNBC.

Man this shit is gonna cause a big domino effect with inflation bros

>>56234588
>ESL anon
I am rubber and you are glue. Least implies a positive amount. Getting reasonable P/Es is just pure goodness.

I lost my job (thanks alcohol and NAW strike). What do now? I too old to NEET anymore

>>56234585
Agree. The thing is, like I already explained to you, the conditions that *could* result in another depression are increasing day by day.

>>56234604
>I too old to NEET anymore
It's never too late anon

>>56234600
Anon, just stop being dumb. I'm saying if we just get low p/e's because of a severe correction and there isn't WW3, that would be good.

>>56234560
>he’s talking about SPY

>>56234591
>volunteer
WAT
>GenX
to an extent, but the participation trophy thing was already building steam by our point. I've never looked into it but I suspect it traces back some to Dr. Spock shit.

I know these are not all necessarily going to lead to a depression by themselves, just saying a convincing case could be made that we will experience a brutal recession within the next 3 years.
Even the gigakikes like Larry Fink and Dimon are coming out and saying this openly. They weren't saying that a few months back.

>>56234623
>uses words other than the ones that say what she means
>calls others dumb
Lrn2words.

>>56234650
not my fault you can't parse meaning

>The number of under-50s worldwide being diagnosed with cancer has risen by nearly 80% in three decades, per the BMJ.

I'm gonna invest into a shitload more medical stocks bros, what are the best ones to get?

>>56234604
Start trading full-time

>>56234643
the single biggest danger of these is the debt servicing costs imo

>>56234664
Do you go and tell a master cook that he made the least bad BBQ ribs you've ever had?

>>56234578
>>56234584
>>56234596
I will be able to retire early thanks to our brilliant president Jim "Dementia" Brandon.

>>56234624
based pic

>>56234690
alright, filtered. you're just being obnoxious and dumb now, like a typical genx.

>>56234665
>in three decades
AHAHAHAAHAHAH
>in three Years
FTFY- both are true both mean WILDLY different things.

>>56234637
I can't exactly recall who was there as a volunteer and who got drafted in the movie, but I'm pretty sure Paula and Joker were volunteers.

It might dependent on what teacher one got, as a Millennial I was lucky to have mainly male teachers in Highschool and who the direction was. The shift wasn't instantaneous but when younger Zoomers came to Highschool it was finished and just looking bad a student could result in suspension of the teacher.

>>56234665
UNH, ABT, NVO, LLY, PFE, JNJ

>>56234665
AMGN
CI

>>56234707
Shit, I reckon I need to watch FMJ again, I never even nooticed one way or the other on the volunteering as far as I know, but that's an interesting detail if so. But, I am pretty sure once you were in there you were in there and couldn't just quit once you were sworn in the 2nd time.

>janny deletes the other thread and not the nigger ass thread
how do i short /biz/

Ding ding ding! How did it go today anon?

>>56234708
>ABT
Based
Abbot & Abbvie goated

>>56234739
I did better than you.

>>56234739
-$109 unrealised
+$19 realised
not even worth getting out of bed for

>>56234739
My day trading gains were positive. Long term holds not so much

>>56234739
what a shitshow

>>56234739
Went cash till after Sukkot.

>>56234739
Bretty gud
Biomeme I hold had a nice lil pump today
Might be a good two weeks, dunno

>>56234739
My day-trade positions (losses) now became long-term hold positions (gain back in the future)

>>56234739
+0.46%

>>56234804
>My day-trade positions (losses) now became exponentially larger long-term losses

>>56234585
The only reason the market isn't as bad as '08 is because they preemptively started printing instead of waiting for several major bank failures, doesn't dismiss the fact that this is a recession and we have been in one for several years now. Indices relatively flat + massive inflation means widespread devaluation, the fear is already here and has been since 2020 and shows no sign of going away. This recession is remarkably "well managed" insofar as everybody keeps thinking a recession is coming instead of realizing it is already here. It has a lot to do with new media control and wise fiscal policy learned from '08.

Things change faggot, this is what a recession looks like now. You should be prepping for the recovery not for the crash.

>>56234739
Better than you faggot

>>56234804
>My day-trade positions (losses) now became long-term hold
based

Is a meltup still on the table? The average got doesn't even care about markets at this point aren't we supposed to have peak fomo and interest in stocks before they collapse?

>>56234819
DEPRESSION was the word used/quoted, retard. Great Recession was seriously bad shit, and *still* not a depression, and shit is still *way* the fuck better now than during Great Recession. Retard.

>>56234739
I hate everyone and everything

>>56234819
Few good points in there. The freaking hyper crab is the crash, mind blown. and the atomization of informational distribution does the rest. Nobody outside a dead board like this is giving two shits as long as they can consume while being told "two more weeks" until recession and go back eating their big macs

>>56234692
based af

>>56234739
+0.36% thanks to CLM

>>56234892
>rolled his entire $123.79 retirement savings into SQQQ
>based af

>>56234924
maybe he's a third worldie

Wow that was a very long nosed close

>>56234933
Very true and I should be more sensitive to that. Definitely based af if so or if under other hardship circumstances which render that a relatively large amount for her.

ASMB stock ladies!

thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZaHJ4z3JP0

>>56234892
>>56234924
>>56234933
>>56234951
Five years of gold plated tech 401(k) contributions. Or in other words, more than you make in a year. Thank you based Biden for crashing the market and letting me earn enough by shorting to NEET all day while I'm still young.

>>56234739
It's teiover for me

>>56234246
>the risk is so incredibly low i have to very meticulously calculate this position's risk

>>56235030
lel

>>56234985
u should get into uvxy then we will be blood brothers

>>56234985
Ok, I was wondering when I saw the original post, you know how shit is around here. I hope that your decision gets blessed and you do not get heemed. It strikes me as a reasonably safe goomble too, but holy fuck is it definitely a goomble. If you lose, never forget that there is more to existence than any of this shit and you can find a path out of just about anything.

Why is Bank of Montreal so aggressively advertising in the US? Is BMO a short?

>everything pumping after hours
mumus i'm thinking october will be more like octobull month

>>56235060
low volume up crabbing isnt pumping anon

>>56235072
This

>>56235072
you say tomato i say potato
they're both good

>>56235060
>that tiny poodle dick on the end
>pumping

new JPM collar just dropped

i would heem every 'trader' itt

>>56235072
>Low volume
That has been the theme of these terror reign of mister snips

>>56235099
Jamie is playing an interesting game as of lately. Can't really tell if he is baiting or serious.

next time somebody tells you Donald Trump is going to be president just tell them Donald Duck will never be president.

hahahahahaha got 'em fucking rekt lol. oh many I think Trump's finally toast.

>>56234739
yesterday i got 5 bucks
today i lost 10

>>56235202
Don't tell me you're bullish on him baggie otherwise he's never president again

>>56235060
>Octobull
>Turkey Day Rally
>Santa Rally
SPY 500 EOY. Book it.

>>56235216
Please stay this euphoric, mumoids. I'm genuinely begging you.

>>56235212
The cabal isn't doing itself a favor making Donald a martyr with their Socialist dictatorship style rule BY law activist shit. He could become the first write in president. I said it when Bidet was rigged in I say it again, it was a pyrrhic victory for the cabal, and if they keep playing it stupid they risk the gallows, unironically

kek there won't be a Santa rally because everybody will be dead by then

>>56235212
Joe Biden is literally obstructing justice by shutting down the government to stop the investigation into his corruption. Like lmao, Trumps a shoo-in

>>56234739
>Up 30 bucks at the bell
>Now down 30 bucks in aftermarket
I am completely snibbed

>>56234092
>caring about PE
Brainlet take

Does anyone’s broker allow them to purchase Square Enix depositary shares

>>56235316
Short term goombler take.

ever since my agent tell me i be doing the show, i been so excited about doing the santa rally
all day i be sayin 'when we gon do santa rally, when we gon do santa rally?'
until finally the producer he come to me, he say 'T... there ain't gon be no santa rally'

>>56234739
Hit a new ATH then got rugged by wheat, down 11.8%, back to my ATH of 11 days ago lmao.

>>56235334
kek!

>>56233358

Your participation needed:

Global Hyperinflation. General /GHG/ >>>/pol/442809051

>>56235363
Not you again. We told you before, there's not going to be hyperinflation in the US. Globally maybe but who cares, some countries are already in hyperinflation (Lebanon, Turkey, Argentina and so on). Go watch Eurodollar University. You /pol/ faggots don't know shit, subzero IQ takes.

>>56235383
His whole thread is his posts and a couple of people telling him to stop spamming lmao.

>>56235363
/pol/ is late to the show. Been in the country with the highest reported inflation growth in the EU and prices have been stable all year long, some goods and services are already coming down, especially energy and food and the buy 2 get 2 for free offers have been going wild for 2 months. I have so much frozen meat and beer, should start thinking about doing what the Romanians do here and go sell the beer at a 2x to youth hanging out in parks at night

>>56235392
How embarrassing

>>56234597
Biden had to know this would be the consequence .. well not him cause he has no idea where the is but someone wanted the dominos to fall or thought a few votes would be worth crashing the economy.

>>56235399
They should have just been like Switzerland and made everything expensive to begin with. Lmao at the articles that said Switzerland was inflation proof, no fucking shit when everything is already expensive to begin with.

>>56235392
He's so cringe and annoying with his link dump. Nigga just link a couple of good videos or articles. Ain't nobody got time for datshit.
Deflation is far more likely anyway.

Government Shutdown is gonna be fun this time around because the market shucks and jives on every economic data. When you delay all the econ data and dump it all at once when the government reopens it'll be a sh!tshow with all the algos trying to analyze it all LOL.

Let's say shutdown is at least a week:
Then we'll only get ISM manufacturing PMI on monday and ISM service PMI on wednesday.
No JOLTs on tuesday, no EIA oil/gas/diesel on wednesday, no Unemployment Claims thursday, and no September Payrolls on friday.

>>56234963
This was the stock I was thinking of! Thank you anon!
I wish I had a ASMB stock sister (cute animeposter who is a guy) to kiss and hug and rejoice with at closing...

>>56235429
True that. Was pretty pissed when they ramped up the price of Mozzarella from 50cent to 99cent, but in retrospective best decision, one gets used to it

>>56235452
>the earth is degenerating
as true then as it is now

BBBY IS NOW BUTTERFLY

MILLIONAIRES BY MONDAY

>>56235542
>>56235452
It's funny how cyclical empires are with the rise and fall of their existence.

>>56235555
I hope everyone in the bbbaggy general bbbackflips off a bridge

>>56235597
It is. Some people make the mistake of reading something like that and thinking "well we're all still here so those people must have been complaining about nothing". The obvious fallacy being that society and civilization is cyclical and those complaints could easily be symptoms of the end stages. Empires fall and new ones rise from the ashes. Where is the West in this cycle? Probably closer to the end than the beginning

>>56234819
Yeah....
but.....
Bro, they printed us out of the 2020 crash. It took them like 3 weeks.

We're going straight into a hard depression and you would be foolish to think otherwise.
40% of currently working fulltime are going to find themselves unemployed.
They are going to call it a recession, they are going to downplay the unemployment stats on the radio as you drive by shanty town homeless camps. Only the young, smart and fit are going to stay employed - women & DEI hires will be out of work sucking dick for a cheeseburger. Get a gun and stock up on ammo and cheeseburgers

>>56235634
They just don't collapse in "two weeks" it's a gradual process that can take generations with the people inside the collapse not even realizing that it is collapsing. The Summerian empire, Egypt, Greece, Rome, Byzantine, the HRE, the Iberians, the Ottomans, the Frogs... all still exist in one form or another, it took historians and analysts to come to the conclusion, that they collapsed.

>>56235675
The difference is they're now printing at 5% interest. And they're _already_ fucked by the interest expense. Already. I agree, depression is not far off.
I've said March 2024 a few times now.

Alright folks
XOM 8-K drops next Wednesday after hours
Prepare your poopers
I thought they would drop this mid to late October
HYPE

>>56235721
proof

>>56235721
What kind of expectations should we be expecting.

>>56235781
expect the unexpected.

Can Mr. Snibs snib-snab Bobo away for Mumu long enough?

>>56235781
I am hoping for something shiny enough to get the oil sector in ceiling smashy smash mode

the proof is in the pudding and this is our first taste of pudding after the last two quarters

crocs are ugly as shit i wear wallabees

Uhhhhhh..... Bull bros..... Are we losing?!

So was this week the bottom or what? Can we just have another 6 months of green??

>>56235452
>every man wants to write a book
This was viewed as an end time factor?

VOO or VUG for my retirement accounts?

>>56235930
VUG outperforms VOO over the long haul but I'd wait on the DIPPARINO or at least only DCA in small amounts until then, then jack up the injections. It would maybe be a good move to do something like 70/30 VUG/VOO.

>>56235918
It would be like saying every zoomer wants to be a twitch streamer, mukbang youtuber, or start an onlyfans today.

>>56235918
it's terminal decadence
kind of like how everyone wants to be a 'content creator' now

>>56235930
Imaginez le bruit et l'odeur

>>56235930
my face buried deep in her crotch

>>56235930
She is not sexy. She is pretty, classy. Stop posting this.

>>56235910
>>56235452
>>56234819
>>56234888

Also why is everybody arguing about whether this was the bottom or not. Is everybody waiting for CPI? And not just this month's CPI, but the next 3 months' as well? And then, when the New Year comes, we'll see?

Why are you panicking? Hedge. Be smart. Make a stance. Hold it.

>>56235930
Born too late to explore earth
Born too soon to explore space
Born just in time not to be that chair

>>56235555
Checked and Based

>>56235930
this bitch is gonna wall so hard and i can't fucking wait

>>56236009
>Why are you panicking?
Not panicking at all
>Hedge
Yes.

>>56234410
I look at Chinese port data and see that three months out there is no Yuletide bounce.

looks like uranium is now heading to $0.... it's over................

>>56236143
Don't say we didn't warn you.

today /smg/ must have been super fucking gay, and not just going by OP's pic related. It is empty even for friday aftermarket.

ghosted again, not thrilled
(my portfolio also ghosted me)

>>56236170
Everyone's busy laughing at /BBBYQ/

>>56236170
On Friday it's the plebs that go out, on Friday that's when I stay in the house

Is it really?

>futures
NO ONE KNOWS WHAT IT'S LIKE
TO BE THE BAD MAN
TO BE THE SAD MAN
BEHIND BLUE EYES

https://youtu.be/4VDDQnvBuLI

>>56236200
This man looks tribal
I'm not sure I trust him

>>56236143
I told you you'd get rugged lmao >>56225038

>made $270 today
Just gotta make that again 3 more times and I’ll recover my losses this month lmao

>>56236256
how did you manage to pull this one off?

>>56236310
Looks like the chart of a typical RH options buyer

Another day. "Did Nothing" during work. Walked during my breaks and during lunch and took a big shat before I left. (What? Hey the restrooms are actually kept clean and the toilet paper is free so why not).

We need to start a separate /smg/ based on account size. I'm tired of 4 figure RH posters and retards trading options that can't even explain what the greeks are.

>>56236361
All the high rollers moved on to /GME/ years ago

>>56236325
Yes
>>56236310
$100 put option on steadfast faith in news of the JP Morgan’s $16 billion SPX 4200 collar dropping the market

Monday back to our regularly scheduled dumping

>>56236361
>hurr durr
lots of 6 figure retards never made gains so that wouldn't work

>>56236336
I want you to post the weightings rather than in alphabetical order

>>56236361
I'm sure there's a subreddit just right for you, fag.

>>56236436
>>56236452
poorfags spotted

>>56236433
Maybe even *way* better dumping!

>>56236436
>t. five-figure poorfag
The point of big account size is you are supposed to be more responsible in your trades. Consequences are real. Noone gives a shit about your opinion when you bet less than six figures on it.

>>56236456
I'm glad to be a poorfag rather than a fag fag like (You).

>>56236462
I try to be extremely responsible with my trades because I have no other way of making money, no way of replacing it if it is lost. I wait weeks and weeks to spot good entries and work them as carefully as possible.

>>56236462
>supposed to be more responsible
Yeah like "hurr I'm just gonna DCA into VOO". If you want a thread just to talk about parking your life savings into VOO and VTI then be my guest lmao.

Just got that moonthly HOOD interest payout!

>>56236492
If you double 6 figs in a year, you've earned 6 figs. Even a 30% return is nothing to laugh at. Doesn't take options, but also not the kind of returns you'll get stacking VOO. There's a middle ground.
Pretty common to see 5 fig accounts randomly posting big wins. If it was sustainable, you'd think you'd also see 6-7 fig posts of huge gains. You don't.
The problem? Risk management. 5 fig newfags don't know kelly sizing. They streak sometimes, and then they blow up all their gains or worse and disappear.

>>56236462
>>56236482
And BTW, due to these levels of caution, I watch what *turned out* to be many good entries and sell opportunities pass me by because they didn't look quite good enough for me to be reasonably sure of protecting my very precious capital. I have taken some stingers before, and gained them back plus way more, but they hurt like motherfuckers when they happened and I learned I needed to be *way* more careful, more *patient*, due to the seriousness of the risk. Even after I've made some really kick ass trades, I still eat rice and beans to keep from eating away at my capital while I build it up to the point I can have a certain portion for trading and the bulk either earning good interest, or parked in solid stocks once the market issues get resolved and we're back in a nice bull.

Sup /biz/, /k/ here. I keep seeing articles that Michael Burry is still down on his short position, but I don't understand how. Isn't the market down 5% since the 14th, or am I missing something?

>>56236596
that's why it's called 6 figure hell. risk management is hard as hell in practice because that degen gambling bug kicks in for the masses.

Teaching something basic like Kelly Sizing helps. But in the end it takes a balanced approach with a smaller trading account to help supplement a long term account and knowing how to spot big trend changes to hedge that long term account at the right times.

>>56236655
He bought 16 million worth of calls for a notional value of 1.6 billion, so he actually didn't spend all that much money and it was basically just a big-ass hedge for his other positions. Basically was someone trolling the markets with news about Burry that anyone that knows the markets would laugh at but would easily get retards to be really bearish during rallies so they were exit liquidity for longs before shit actually did get bad.
>and 10mm is the best handgun caliber

>>56236558
>HOOD
my condolences

>>56236663
>But in the end it takes a balanced approach with a smaller trading account to help supplement a long term account and knowing how to spot big trend changes to hedge that long term account at the right times.
Six figs to seven is really just a matter of time and consistency. It takes an entire decade even at a +30% post-tax return rate to reach a million. If you're paying short-term cap gains rates, that 30% is likely a 45% gross return rate. All in all, these are really solid numbers to sustain. It's by no means free or easy to sustain this over extended timeframes. For every person achieving this, there's someone on the other side going a decade lighting money on fire and ending up exactly where they started, if not at large losses.
Worth noting that in a tax free world, that same 45% rate of return would reach 3 million in the same timeframe, 2/3rds total value potential destroyed by taxes. Inflation makes this tax factor worse, since positive real returns are the end goal - not nominal.

Running a smaller trading account can help supplement your longer term swings with some quick flips, but day trading generally doesn't scale up well due to liquidity. At that point it's also more of a full time job than a side interest.

>>56236596
6 fig fags content themselves with ridiculous gains (in percentage) and hardly ever bother to learn to do better, then they act like they're better than anybody else

Cmon goy it's the best time to buy, you like buying don't you? Government shutdown? I'm sure it's nothing lol. Don't look up charts from december 2018.

>>56235675
> Only the young, smart and fit are going to stay employed -
I am at least 2 of those things, so I feel fine

>>56236810
What's your over/under on how long it takes for a deal to get done? I'm thinking they take it through all of next week and into monday or tuesday of the one after.

>FEMASYS went up another 300% today
Why are we here? Just to suffer?

>>56236810
>Don't look up charts from december 2018.
I don't need to. I'll always remember that beautiful Christmas eve dip into nonexistent holiday liquidity, right before the big pivot.

>>56236831
A wizard arrives exactly when he intends to, so right when they've finished crushing as many longs as they need they'll send it rocketing back up for a triple top, then the new year will be a fun little AAAAAAAAAAAA.

Even better then, since they can tear the market down to 3600 next May, then send it rocketing back to 4700 just in time for the 2024 election. See? Joe Biden wins again, sure he's barely conscious and hasn't done any appearances besides a single 1 hour debate, but it is very realistic that he got 91 million votes to Trumo's 90 million. Trust us.

All you gotta do is ask "what do they need to pretend their guy will win" and wallah.

>>56236663
Kelly sizing is for midwits.

>>56233358
It took me 3 years to realize that active investing as an individual doesn't make sense. The time and effort wasted actively analyzing and monitoring your companies is better spent improving your skills to increase your income. Unless you have a lot of savings, you should invest your time into building skills and improving your income. You won't be the next Warren Buffett.
Buy index funds. You get average returns guaranteed, you don't have to worry about bankruptcies or updating your portfolio through the decades meaning that if you really want you can just defer taxes until you die which means that in the long run, even though you are getting average returns, you'll end up with more money because you're not paying any taxes on unrealized gains that just keep on compounding forever. You can always borrow using your portfolio as collateral and never pay a single tax dollar. You'll always be diversified too.

Just get another hobby

>>56236938
All in every time

>>56236977
But anon, if you get skilled enough to actively trade and post an annual return of 8-12% you can work at a prop firm and lever up, then use their capital and split profits

>>56236852
Republicans hold the house. Power of the purse. They are going to crash this ship with no survivors.

>>56236977
The stock market is lower than it was two years ago
You would have lost money investing in an index fund. Vanguard Shill

>>56236977
Currently feels like such a shit time to be invested because of so much uncetainity during a fed rape hike cycle that may or may not be done alongside a business unfriendly (unless you buy their pet projects) national government. I have my 401k set to buy. But, I dont have much control over my 401k, so its set to buying S&P 500 at the moment. My roth I am playing around holding commodities and international (I bought Chile right before its index dropped 10%, of fucking course) of which if I just stayed invested in PBR from the start of the year i'd be cruising.

>>56236977
>SKIBIDOPDOPCHECKEDYES
In all seriousness though I just DCA a couple bluechips that I like and buy SPY when it's cheap for most of my trading. I keep the "hobby" stuff other than that to 5% of my portfolio so that when it inevitably does go ass up it's not the end of the world and if it hits it probably makes enough to still not justify doing it but keeps me very entertained.

>>56236992
Currently if you are in the business of buying a home you can bank 8% gains simply by paying off your mortgage faster.

>>56236977
Peter Lynch style investing with 3-5 stocks takes a couple hours a year tops
Rest of the time is for shitposting and writing JPow sexual copypasta

>>56237018
Well sure, any debts are going to ruin your ROI more than an investment helps it. If you buy a house, best move is to just rent it to someone that isn't going to fuck you over. Suddenly, you've paid 20% down and they pay the 80%

The Monday dump will be beautiful.

>>56237025
Its just crazy to think we went from debt maxing to nipple crippling debt.

>>56236992
>8-12%
Shit, is that all it takes?

>>56237039
>inb4 bottom falls out of the boat on the 13th
would be bretty spoopy

>>56234179
what are your positions? I chickened out of my UVXY calls(for a profit) because of the short timeframe. but also longer timeframes seem even worse since it trends down over time, which is also a problem with just holding the stock

>>56236977
this but with leverage and a slant toward production difficulty/moat i.e. semiconductors.

long tlt or what?

>>56237280
I wouldn't long it until the fed finally cuts interest rates and who knows when that is

>>56237045
My boomer parents who just bought a new kitchen and are constantly getting in builder’s to fix things that either don’t need fixed or could do themselves want me to get a loan out to fix something that doesn’t need fixed, only they could get a cheap loan with a low % (with no mortgage or they can remortgage) me on the other hand would get a rape rate loan. The minute I mention they could get it for me and I’ll pay them back monthly they cry poverty. Leaving the key in the door and pretending I’m not in from now on. Boomer led economy needs to die already, I hope housing plummets and takes all their retirement funds with it.

>>56234591
This is because many older zoomers in fact have boomer parents who weren't afraid to slap em around a little when they misbehaved.

>>56237280
You faggots have been "buying the dip" on TLT and TMF for weeks now.

Friendly reminder

Governor shutdown is bullish

>>56237342
Yep, I went into cash for that very wait.

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>>56237304
>>56237308
i havent longed but perhaps i shouldnt anticipate. im trying to get in early but it will probably crab if the fed still has 1 more hike to go. perhaps a multi year play

>>56237023
Those days are over. There are no more consumer trends that you could possibly identify, as your average person today, before Wall Street does.

>>56237357
Is that the newest pivoooooooot cult narrative?
>1 more hike
Why not 2

>>56237357
You should consider buying only when gov announces some kind of yield control. We may very well go to 7% yields. Or not, it's a coin toss at this point. Foolish to enter any side of this trade right now, or if you feel ballsy buy TMV.
>t. sold my TMV two days ago for 15% profit

Going long bonds (short yields) today is like shorting uranium or oil. Yes, they already pumped a lot but that alone doesn't mean they ar egonna crash. They may very well keep pumping.

>>56237346
Do federal employees get paid for the hours they don’t work but would have? Just like free money?

pretend I don't care about trading. is there a way for anons who do care to manage some of my money?

>>56237373
yes everything is fine. dont worry

>>56237376
>>56237402
too early then. i was thinking someone might have some thesis that im missing.

>>56237362
why what happened? are consumers fed so much propaganda that you can predict (dictate) where they will spend now?

>>56236977

You are wrong fool, If you spend all your time improve your skills, you can make like $20000-$30000 extra per year. If you make some high risk high reward trade, you can make an extra $100000.

>>56237362
well they're not identifying them, they're using social media algorithms to force the trends into existence

>>56236977

Last year, I made $40000 trading. To make the same amount working, I would have to wage slave an extra 1000 hours

Verification
not
required

>>56237493
yes i will finally net even on uvxy allah akbar

>>56237493

SOXL bros on suicide watch

Went to WEN for dinner tonight. I don't usually go there since it's kind of a pain to drive to because of one way streets, so I have to loop around a block. Had a Baconator. Bretty gud. Also had a Frosty. Also bretty gud. The girl working the drive thru was a cute Latina.
WEN is down 7% ytd, wtf

>>56237451
You still BELIEVE in mass behaviorism in a totally atomized society with no informational distribution monopoly and no trust and therefore no common realities? Stupid religious Boomers mind stuck in 1998

>>56237566
>down 7% ytd
Because they lost my business when they jacked the $4/5/6 bags up $1 thinking they were going to make more money, and they stopped sending out coupons more than once every bunch of months.

>>56237305
Boomers do a terrible job of teaching their children some of the important values of financial education. My parents were never very good at it, which I get since I grew up at poverty line in a roached infested house and lived in a hallway converted into a kinda bedroom. I also slept on a couch for five years. While a certain extent some people just have a compulsion to need to consume, but your parents could definitely sign for the loan on your behalf and then you just make payments to them instead of that money going to a fucking banker when they double the rates because "no credit history"

>>56237493
BRB, dumping thousands into money markets ETFs

>>56233358
Octobear soon

>>56237280
>>56237308
>>56237357
It's an etf that tracks what the treasuries are doing. This means that you're always subject to the market value of them.
Honestly, just buy short-dated bonds with high yields that aren't junk bonds. My bank (TD) is giving me 5.47% (annualized) for a monthly banker's acceptance

>>56237046
Depends on the firm. Most want to see you continuously exceed the high water mark on your account.
Pretty much all of them have metrics that involve you submitting and following a trading plan, having consistent gains, limiting your max drawdown, risk management, trading for at least 3-5 years, etc. A lot of them also have a specialization, such as day trading, options, currencies, etc.

i think /smg/ sucks!

>ex-dividend date
>takes another month to receive the dividend

>>56237815
>he doesn't get payouts every month

This is it

>>56236239
this nigga thinks hes on to something

>>56237806
Interesting. I'd never even heard of "prop firms" until maybe a week or so ago when I happened up on a YT vid about some apparently big on YT firm being a scam that makes people pay to "trade" on a demo account to prove themselves, all the while I guess that firm is stealing the trades of good traders and finding ways not to pay out. I really like the general notion of trading on other's capital and splitting profits though. I do that now using an old friend's capital, which is a lot more than my own, but going a lot bigger would kick ass.

URANIUM

>>56237863
jej

>>56236143
zoom out

>>56233616
I traded AAPL like that. Then sold out because the market is crazy. AAPL is still higher than when I sold it, but it won’t stay there.

>>56237863
why you gotta bring divvies into it tho

>>56234665
Invest in tattoo removal lasers for when this retarded fad ends. There’ll be a removal parlor on every corner.

>there is STILL a /bbbyq/ general

>>56238039
Mental illness

>>56238036
There won't be because tattoo removal will be a luxury the masses can't afford. they are stuck with their cattle stamps.

banking

>>56238039
>technically speaking there is still /smg/ too

>>56238059
Are tattoos carcinogenic?

>>56238083
Little early for a Friday night

>>56238107
baking

>>56238077
baked

>>56238128
Oh ok, frens are allowed to bake

>>56236998
>2 year timescale
Even at the top of the dotcom bubble, DCAing into a 3x QQQ would have been a winning move, that's how big a shitcoin fiat is

>>56237420
If they're salaried, yes, they'll get a fat retro check once shutdown is over

>>56237420
I'm a former federal contractor who worked with lots of govvies (slang term for government employees).
This >>56238366 is correct... at least it has been in the past. I don't know if it's automatic though. I think Congress has to include it in the eventual budget bill to give them back pay. Congress doesn't have to.
When I was a contractor though, I was basically required to burn vacation days or choose unpaid time off.

>>56236998
boglechads keep putting money in, so they bought at 3500 too

>>56238077
>>56238077
>>56238077