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if I were holding xmr it would be the comfiest hold hypothetically speaking

Would the taxman come sniffing if I sold vehicles for XMR instead of fiat but was otherwise above board?

I wish I had more money to put into xmr

What happened with SeraiDEX? I thought it'd be out by now.

>>56218750
It's a one man show and project is big.
Who knows when it will be ready.
Luke is hard work tho not like the haveno/farcaster devs
https://github.com/serai-dex/serai/commits/develop

Morning terrorists

>>56218875
>Hebrew filename

>>56218889
It's an image I saved from POL I don't know how that happened

>>56218909
Stop lying, oven dodger.

>>56218704
>>56218765

>>56218750
>>56218856
Can't wait for this one. Will be investing heavy.

>>56218915
Leave me alone dad I'm trying to bait pajeets
>coming to monero general for pajeets
My plan was flawed from the start

i pray one will be able to buy hookers using monero in the future

>>56219022
The future is now

>>56218875
elliot rodger if he never killed himself

>>56219044
My penis is way too big to be part asian fren. Look it up on the monero blockchain

Would a Monero sidechain as a layer 2 on Bitcoin be popular, or would it just be a ghostchain with no activity like Liquid?

>>56219060
What would be the point? The whole reason Monero is displacing buttcoin is unfixable flaws in BTC L1.

>>56219113
BTC L1 isn't so bad. The L1 blocksize should just be alot smaller, like 300kb, and all the meaningful activity moved to L2

>>56219178
>BTC L1 isn't so bad
Here is the fundamental disagreement between btc and xmr maxi.
Only time will tell which side is right.
L2s can't do shit if L1 sucks and btc is probably one if the shittiest there is.
If you forked it and made a new shitcoin from it today, everyone would laugh at you.

>>56218875
Good morning beeswax candle enthusiasts.

>>56219259
>invalid view key
kek

MONEROMARKET.IO

>>56220000

https://youtu.be/IrqelRFpyXc?feature=shared&t=282

What do you know? Turns out the bitmain x5 is a piece of shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRLZitXASaM

What else do you guys hold besides xmr?

>>56221913
Physical metals, real estate, and dividend stocks.

>>56221913
Bitcoin and PMs.

>>56221946
Don't own any dividend stocks. I've been curious about getting some low volatility blue-chips (e.g. McDonalds). Got any solid recommendations?

>>56221985
LMT is a money printer as long as defense spending goes up.

>>56221913
I datamine randos online for my jewish masters, how about you?

>>56222064
Add this to your data mine glownigger

>>56222430
>Privacy focused Monero General
>Shows his most privates
Yes goy, more 'icks on 'ecks for moloch! Circumcized, I hope!

>>56219259
excellent

>>56221946
>real estate
Why do you bother with xmr when you could have even more free money?

>>56222458
No fren I was a homebirth because my mom is also schizo. My penis looks like picrel without the pepe and more blanket
Wanna see? Too bad. I know you jews lust for foreskin pictures

>>56218875
Just a reminder to newfrens - this is a botposter, ai-generated faces are a posting pattern, spams threads and tries to create a negative association with Monero that can be cited later. Remember to utilize filters. God bless humans' right to private, sound money.

>>56224233
Based. My foreskin was stolen at birth

> Every single shitcoin in the top 100 is green today but Monero
This is just delaying the inevitable. Speculators are avoiding Monero? Speculators are shut out of Monero? Monero organic growth instead of speculative growth? Who knows, but we got a different category of buyers no doubt then the rest of these shitcoins.

>Ethereum
>on Binance
Should Have Used Monero™
Also, not your keys not your crypto.

capcha KVRGJN

cake wallet will give you an estimate of fees before sending Monero but you hear stories of people sending Bitcoin and getting outsized humongous fees. Is it possible my estimate of fees in CakeWallet will be wrong and lower than actual?

>>56225695
Stop with these botted, engagement farming posts.

>>56224898
Probably just paper monero from whatever centralized exchanges still carrying it like kraken. They must be scared if its in the same category as gold and silver.

>>56225695
Fees are much more controlled with Monero due to if people used different fee sizes they would stick out more and diminish privacy. Wallet software and API’s are more standardized than Bitcoin which whatever wallet does whatever it wants and PayPal’s in-house wallet clearly is retarded and allows major user error

Next post will be a google-tier "how do I do X?" by a 1pbtid

nigger

>>56228162
Did I ruin it for you Mr 1pbtid?

>>56228170
no

>>56228170
Your mother is ruined.

>>56224455
NO YOU'RE A BOT

>>56228387
>1pbtid

>>56215979
I like the technology behind xmr and as mu first coin I have been putting half my pay check in it for the last year. Now what? I am not really into rugs should I just keep holding?

>>56229052
There we go, that's the 1pbtid generic question bot I was waiting for

>>56229076
I don't spend time in biz, last time I was here it was November. I have been meaning to learn more past the basics of making a wallet and buying coins, I just haven't.

>>56229128
No you're a bot. Every single time this thread nears the bottom of the catalog a generic question in this same style appears. Botting the monero threads is gay

>>56229156
I can only say to you meds now.
I can't believe /fit/ is better then biz.

>>56229156
Why are you here? You clearly don’t like it here.

>>56229233
I'd like it, if threads weren't being botted

Stop with bots faggotry.
Tell me where koe is, and what is the release date of seraphis.

>>56215979
>>56219259
sex with xmr-chan

>>56229730
>ex Mr
Sex with trannys is cringe

>>56219044
Elliot rodger at 48 if he never killed himself.

>>56229305
Read the logs
#monero-dev:monero.social
#monero-research-lab:monero.social
#no-wallet-left-behind:monero.social

If offshore decided to convert into monero

>>56229052
We're in the middle of a prolonged crypto winter and no one knows when spring arrives. It will probably be range-bound between $100-$200 for a while, unless you have some particular compulsion to sell there would be no benefit to you doing so.

>>56229052
buy monerochan plushie, hand her gun

Can someone that holds monero please explain why they support terrorism? Last i checked terrorism is illegal. Watch this thread get ignored because you terrorists know I am right

>>56229975
You realize that calling me 40+ years old and actively outdoors isn't really a burn right?

>>56230658
>Can someone that holds monero please explain why they support terrorism? Last i checked terrorism is illegal. Watch this thread get ignored because you terrorists know I am right

Problem?

>>56219259
That‘s the best Monero meme, so far.

>>56230702
No. Just wondering when terrorism became so cool

>>56231591
>Just wondering when terrorism became so cool

Always has been.

This Is What Maxipads Actually Believe

>>56221946
>Physical metals
Confirmative

>>56231591
>>56230658
Tbh. you're asking the wrong people. You should ask those holding USD.

>>56232449
Must be nice to be an heathen, to be so ignorant of how ignorant one really is.

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>>56235204
Let's go brandanon

>>56235217
Ready when you are, like the profile says I'm available 24/7. Thank you for your kind words and understanding!

>>56235204
Do you have a tier where you just design just one aspect? For example: Just a logo, just a business card, etc? Not everyone has 38 xmr like to have the whole kit and kaboodle.

>>56230626
I probably will
>>56230370
Okay thanks man

>>56235204
Look at that subtle off-white coloring.

>>56230626
Where can I buy monero plushie (or potentially haggle trade for fancy artwork)

>>56236866
no idea if there are any still in stock but
https://monerosupplies.com/product/monerochan-plush/

>>56235204
I've seen AI tools that produce the exact same designs for free

How much would you pay me for a monerochan made of copper

>>56237424
Like a statue?

>>56238003
Like a shrine to your god, terrorist

>>56238038
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1696045481742589.webm

>>56237424
However much the cost of the volume of beeswax equal to the volume of the average busty woman is.

how do i go about properly begging the faggot devs from a dex i like to add monero as an option? because kinetix is perfect for what i need but they insist on using usdt because muh native liquidity narrative. i want monero.

>>56238923

There are already 3 Monerocentric DEXs in the works. Be patient.

How do i add monero payment to a site? Is there a system that generates addresses, checks for payment and automate everything?

>>56239594
I haven't been keeping up for a long time. How do the devs plan to not end up like any other "dex" where you have to kyc if fiat is involved?

>>56239832
well the free market would respond negatively to something like that

>>56239832
https://sethforprivacy.com/guides/accepting-monero-via-btcpay-server/

http://sfprivg7qec6tdle7u6hdepzjibin6fn3ivm6qlwytr235rh5vc6bfqd.onion/guides/accepting-monero-via-btcpay-server/

There is also this: https://github.com/LukeSmithxyz/shadowchat

>>56239850
none of these solve the fiat convertability issue

>>56239956
my bad. meant it for this
>>56239850
>>56239815

>>56238923
Dex don't mess with xmr because of the esg--tier kikery dissuading any trader or broker from dealing with privacy coins, which is why the cex have already dropped it. Not that it matters because...
>>56239832
If you're wanting to turn xmr directly to fiat, you're doing it wrong. Just swap to something that liquidates to fiat if you really must. XMR is a hedge against the mark of the beast.

>>56225695
Monero can have the same high fee issue if you use malicious remote nodes by accident. Make a habit of double checking the transaction fee when using a node you don't own. As far as I can tell, the fee is calculated by the wallet with information received from the Monero node's daemon, so it's entirely possible to get screwed by a malicious node that sends bad information.

>tl;dr
Yes, it's possible for Cake Wallet to get the tx fee wrong. Double check fees before sending, although I'd be less concerned with the fee being too low than too high. Worst case scenario if the fee is too low is that your transaction isn't accepted and you keep your money, but if the fee is too big then you'll lose more money than you should've because it will definitely get accepted.

>>56221913
Precious metals and t-bills. I recycle the interest into more metals and monero.

Not super Monero related but since Craig Wright has repeatedly called for the mass arrest of Monero users and devs, it looks like the string of lost lawsuits has caused even his most brainwashed associates to start turning on him. The CEO of his company nChain has just quit and his been on a warpath dumping all kinds of internal documents. Apparently CSW's chief financier Calvin Ayre is having a mental breakdown from funding the endless series of lawsuits that Craig keeps getting destroyed in.

>As I sit here I am on a beach in Southern Spain. I have a good life. I have every intention of keeping it this way. Right now the only negative in my life is your litigation disaster (and getting old but that one I cannot fix). I will accept your explanation that you did not actually threaten me so the following is the situation we find ourselves in.

>I have been operating under the assumption that you and Ramona have the keys and that you were simply pretending not to have them as part of some strategy that you have trapped yourself in. But now that we are looking at a situation where continuing to deny you have them ruins your life and damages your supporters, I am forced to make a tough decision. It no longer matters if you have the keys or not as it is my opinion based on advice from Zafar and others that you cannot win the COPA trial if you do not sign at Harvard so I have no choice in what I have to do.

>>56241571
>This of course will also mean that you lose all the other cases as COPA will set precedent that you are not Satoshi in law. All IP other than nChain patents will disappear. This means that you are not going to be able to get a court to declare that you own any tokens either. We have also verified that there is no complete paper trail evidencing the trust owning any tokens. This after nearly a year of Zurich reviewing all the evidence you have. This means you cannot repay me the money you owe me for all the litigation to date. This means every cent spent on your cases is me pissing away my kids inheritance. If you have the keys, your best play is to now use them. Going to jail for perjury but having the entire world accept you are a flawed Satoshi is infinitely better than losing this case and only being considered likely to be a flawed Satoshi after your death by historians as no other realistic person is ever found. However, its my opinion that once the world accepts you are a flawed Satoshi, everything changes and all of this just goes away. I can make it all go away in fact. There is zero reason to continue to pretend you do not have the keys if you really have them.

>So either you are a moron for intentionally losing this case, or you are a moron for actually not having the keys…either way, I am not following you over the cliff…and I actually have concerns with Stefan even being a witness as I know what they will do to him for this. My opinion in having watched this play out over the years is that its clear you are hopelessly bad at litigation. The ONLY reason you won in Florida is the other side got greedy and tried to both steal your shit and ruin your reputation and this was conflicting agendas and so confused the jury. The other side will not be making this mistake in London.

>>56241592
>To me I am doing you and your supporters a favor…. I will cover this in CG as us still being sure you are Satoshi even as its clear that you were run over by the combined forces of Silicon Valley, US payments companies and the entire Crypto world. We will say that we believe you did forge some documents to replace ones you destroyed earlier to try to pretend you were not Satoshi. We will say this is because your Asperger’s makes you not think and act like an adult. You are like a super smart Teenager. This is not how this would play out in the media if we spend toe to toe with COPA and they still win which is what is most likely…in addition to the massive waste of my kids wealth.

>Its clear that once you lose you will need me more than ever. I will be the only one standing between your family and the soup kitchen. At least at the moment, depending on how self-destructive you get, I am not stopping my funding of the Association, the ecosystem or nChain and you, in fact this decision makes funding them a lot easier for me. From my perspective this decision improves everything now. Your continuing to accept this funding is your acceptance that our existing deal is still valid and that you agree with me that my stopping funding a lost cause is not a violation on my side. You are further agreeing that you personally will pay me back for all the money I have spent on your project even if the trust never gets any tokens.

>>56241606
>By the way…you lost both contempt of court cases. Christen was the one that saved you and you are acting like you are too selfish and ignorant to even understand this. I don’t believe you have even thanked anyone. Both of these contempt’s would have been used against you in all other cases.

>>56241571
>Craig Wright has repeatedly called for the mass arrest of Monero users and devs
Excuse my ignorance but who is this guy, and why does he wants to hurt monero?
His face looks extremely punchable

>>56241648
>be Satoshi
>create p2p money system which is supposed to be anonymous and trustless (XMR is much more in line with this vision and some of his messages hint at that)
>based opsec schizo, nobody who knows his identity is saying anything publicly
Meanwhile Craig
>Absolute narcisstic sociopath
>Wants the entire crypto space to be KYC'd and controlled by ((((((trusted institutions))))))
>Hates the idea of an anonymous currency
>People call bullshit at his claims to be Satoshi
>He takes them to court and is bankrolled by that Calvin guy quoted earlier
>"Private keys? Signing messages? Fuck that, I destroyed those years ago because I want to prove things the right way, which is by one judge in a court of law declaring it to be so"
>Court rules that the documents he presented as evidence were obviously doctored. Craig himself has been held in contempt and convicted of perjury multiple times
>Calvin realizes this is a losing battle and might be pulling the money soon
There's more to it but he's basically a more annoying version of Michael Saylor because Saylor at least believes in btc enough to not fork it into its own bullshit chain where coins can be moved out of a wallet without the signing key (because how else would he "own" Satoshi's coins?)

>>56241648
>Excuse my ignorance but who is this guy, and why does he wants to hurt monero?
He is a hyper-litigious Australian con artist and pathological liar who has spend the last half decade claiming that he is Satoshi. Started a fork of Bitcoin called Bitcoin Satoshi Vision (BSV) that he claims is the real version. Convinced a number of prominent Bitcoiners he was Satoshi (nearly all of whom now denounce him as a liar), and has amassed a medium-sized community of low-iq schizophrenics.

He tries to compensate for being caught in lies and acting shady by giving over the top praise of the court system, financial regulations etc. and by denouncing all privacy protocols (and Monero in particular) as being illegal, immoral terrorist actions. Wants all privacy tools criminalized. Has even stated, completely unprompted, that Fluffypony should be in prison during one of his court rants.

As the letter above indicates, he is extremely aggressive in litigation but is so comically bad in trials that the person bankrolling him (Calvin Ayre) is now threatening to cut off his funding because he is pissing away his fortune hiring literal armies of attorneys for all of the back-to-back court cases that Craig keeps losing.

>>56241820
>>56241823
It's amazing to me how common these stories of obvious bullshit con artists are and how much money and influence can they acquire. Especially in tech.

>>56241823
>It's amazing to me how common these stories of obvious bullshit con artists are and how much money and influence can they acquire.

You can have fun reading this deposition if you have the time.
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6309656/590/9/kleiman-v-wright/

QRD
>Craig wants to pass himself off as a cybersecurity expert with extensive experience and ties to big government agencies
>But Craig realizes he has no credentials, no ability, no knowledge on the subjects, etc. so he has to find a way to fraud himself some convincing paper trail
>He happens to find a very tiny company located on the other side of the planet in America called GICSR, which is ran by a dorky catlady and a few employees and basically acts as a conference organization for cybersecurity groups to discuss things like industry best practices.
>this company is less than 10 people and mostly just holds brunches in the conference rooms of hotels, nothing technological or interesting
>but this little company can accurately put "works with the NSA" on their business cards because sometimes government agencies send representatives to these conferences, and anyone who called them or looked them up could confirm this
>Craig calls up dorky catlady and tells her "hey I'm really interested in the field, I'm a cybersecurity guy in Australia and I was wondering if I could be a volunteer for you and maybe help establish some likeminded connections for you here in Australia if you needed them"
>"Uh.... sure"
>Craig now has a cybersecurity connection he can point to if anyone has doubts about his credibility
>But Craig realizes that this podunk little conference group isn't impressive or technical
>No problem, no one in Australia knows this so Craig is going to "reinvent" GISCR into some James Bond-tier CIA shit
>Not only is he going to reinvent the company, but he is going to be the President of their Asia-Pacific Division (which obviously does not exist) and print himself business cards

>>56219259
Old meme

>>56215979
if one suddenly had access to a VERY big XMR wallet which may or may not be an object of interest to triple letter agencies, how would he go on about cashing out?
just begin transferring funds slowly on binance?

>>56242417
What is it with retards always wanting to cash out? Use the wallet for everything that doesn't explicitly require dollars (like rent and taxes) and keep your job so you have a plausible income stream don't draw the attention of AML regulations

>>56242417
>how would he go on about cashing out?
>just begin transferring funds slowly on binance?

Nigga, is you crazy? Stay the fuck away from any KYC'd entity.

If you must cash out (bad idea) what you do is buy bullion or consumer electronics with XMR and then resell for cash.

Or just wait for the next wave of reputable darknet cash-out services to appear. You send XMR, they send you cash in the mail.

>>56239850
thanks man.

Maybe a little off topic but now that Dall-e 3 is out and free, create a new outlook mail and you get 100 prompts, they don't ask for phone or anything. lets make some monero art.
go here:
>https://www.bing.com/images/create

this is not like the other image generators. you can verbally describe what you want with a lot of precision. like "woman with red and black hair holding a coin to the camera, she is slightly smiling,etc"

There are a way to get free monero?

>>56243742
mine it

>>56242516
at monerokon 2023 there was a guy that said "berlin, 20 minutes, 200k no kyc no problem" and i felt that.

What's with all the compliance cucks these days?

>>56245339
they're fags

>>56242417
hypothetically speaking, I think one would sell XMR to a reputable seller on localmonero for fiat sent through the post

Terrorists

>>56246072
>page 8
Terror

>page 8 again
Ist

>>56243815
>mine
no, it's mine

jannies tongue my lily white anus and Nyan Cat Money will be a top 100 coin in 3 years and you unbelieving faggots will fomo the top...#1

>>56215979
>MONERO-Chan
is cute
is cuter
is the cutest

How can she be so perfect bros?

nyancatmoney.com...LITERALLY ALL YOU NEED TO MAKE IT #53

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRwSqM0YBto

new animated informative video about Tail Emission

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1696170126402282.webm

>>56215979
If your miners work hard you get monero,
If your moneros work hard you get minors.
Getit?

Morning robot terrorists, happy October 1st gayop. Beep boop monero is based you can tell I'm not a fed because I post about it on the 4channel haha pool is shut

My explosives from Facebook just came in. Thank you monero

>>56249666
checked

>>56215979
Is 1000XMR enough to make it by 2030?

>>56250634
Enough to make what?

>>56250634
Nobody knows.
If you have enough fiat to buy 1k xmr today, you are making it either way so the question is moot.

How much monero to make it in 2030?

>>56250694
to make what?

>>56216087
that would be the car buyers problem.

>>56250634
>Is 1000XMR enough to make it by 2030?

>>56250694
>How much monero to make it in 2030?

>>56219060
perhaps if the L1 was choking up. I believe that there is something like 5 papers written about L2 for XMR. While interesting, L1 runs just fine.

>>56250884
>thinking 7 years ahead
>moonfag

>>56248496

Are there any Monero chads here that can help me understand a few technical concepts and explain it like you're talking to a retard? Zero to Monero is unreadable for my silky smooth brain (the math just looks like squiggly lines)

How are blinding factors for pedersen commitments generated? Also, is an output's blinding factor reused when spent as an input or is a new one generated?

How the heck does the ring signature logic work?

How do range proofs work?

Also, are there any good and clean examples of building a monero transaction on github? Preferably in JavaScript. I've peaked at a couple wallets and they were super convoluted.

What are some traps you need to avoid to continue staying anonymous
While selling xmr

>>56244501
How did he do it ? Isn’t that illegal

Could I minepool on this efficiently? I've also got a pi 4 sitting around.

>>56242417
>>56242516
>Or just wait for the next wave of reputable darknet cash-out services to appear
literally download LocalMonero from Fdroid and start cashing out via p2p transfers

>>56251516
>just meet up with other terrorists bro
Lmao not today cia, nice try fbi, hit the bricks mi6

Monero pumping and shitcoins are falling. Do they know?
>Do we know if they know?

>>56251106
Nobody here knows how Monero works. They just like shitposting and Monerochan. Good luck, anon

Can I get regular coffee there or not?

Do you know that you can use Monero to pay for your hotel?

>>56252073
hmm very interesting, seems better than using the global banking system if you would like to remain anon

>>56252073
>>56252116
I've used Travala for my last 3 vacations. Bought my plane tickets and hotel with them. Definitely recommend.

>>56251365
being heterosexual is not a crime

>>56252143
>>56252073
You can also buy Airbnb coupons oj bitrefil, no xmr tho so convert xmr to ltc first

>>56219178
It's starting to become a problem.

>>56251106
Mastering Monero is a much simpler read

https://www.getmonero.org/library/

>>56215979
Bro is it a good idea to invest in Monero?

>>56253767
No, monero is a terrible investment.

>>56253265
>Chinese BTC miners are literally robbing the entire economy of El Salvador with TX fees
Now THAT is a properly dystopic cyberpunk headline.

>>56253767
>>56253774
don't worry about it, probably just a flash in the pan

Take a seat and lets have a shot together!

>>56241064

How exactly do I check these these fees in practice?

Noting I use cakewallet only not the desktop GUI

And that I use remote nodes because otherwise it's too slow due to blockchain size bloat

By the way, will AI help deal with the blockchain size bloat problem? How will it not get out of hand in the future?

>>56256627
>By the way, will AI help deal with the blockchain size bloat problem?
No. Why would it? You need to think a little before jumping on the latest memetrain.
>How will it not get out of hand in the future?
Storage is getting cheaper faster than the chain grows.
Pruned chain gas like 70gb right now, take a look for how much 1tb ssd sells.

>>56253774
>No, monero is a terrible investment.

Based.

>>56251727
>Source: State Administration of Foreign Exchange of China

>>56257256
Think he'll ever admit to juicing it for years?

>>56242942
« Monero coin » viewed by dall-e

>>56215979
Is solo mining on a CPU worth it?
I've been running it on a 5900X CPU for a week and got nothing.
P2Ppools any good?

>>56258934
Only worth it if you have several rigs, I'd say like 50KH/s or greater total.

Below that, pool mining via traditional pools or p2pool provides a far better assurance of revenue. I have several rigs mining in a traditional TOR pool, they've made me a few monero this year, where as my rig that is solo pool mining (mining by itself in a pool that I run) hasn't earned me even one red cent. It's literally just eating up electricity from my perspective. If it doesn't solve a block by February I'm shutting it down and pointing it back at the traditional pool.

>>56259272
Thanks for your input.
Guess I'll put a wallet on a work server and mine with a TOR pool there. Not like we're using a CPU there at the moment.

>>56215979
>4 days and 17 hours ago
comfy

>>56257765
He already has admitted to it, long ago.

Henlo terrorists

>>56260553
>Henlo terrorists

>>56251106
To keep it at a lower level, blinding factors in commitments ensure that the final commitment is random. The way Pedersen commitments work is by multiplying a value by a given factor. As we work on Elliptic Curves, multiplication with a point is equivalent of encryption and cannot be reversed with the current technology. If such a multiplication was done by the same factor, even if we couldn't reverse it an attacker could still make a cheat table precomputing possible values. To resolve this, a blinding factor is generated for each output, and added to the commitment to randomize the output. And the blinding factor alongside the amount used is communicated to the sender in an encrypted way. Using the viewkey can already decrypt that, and that's why view-only wallets can view the incoming amounts, but not the outgoing.
Range proofs make Pedersen commitments actually work by ensuring that all the blinding factors and values are correct. They are complicated so much so that even Zero to Monero skips over them. However, the general idea I get is that you prove that you are in possession of the binary decomposition of the individual bits that compose the amount that is being transacted. This is done with a large ring signature interesting enough (members are keys generated from commitments to each bit). tl;dr is that this decomposition to bits makes sure that the amount is positive, and it's within Monero's supply.
Ring signatures can work in a multitude of ways. Some more efficient, some simpler. If I had to give a simple explanation, it would be that each member in the ring is referring to the previous one allowing the true signer to close the loop. This forms a ring and all an outsider is able to decipher is that at some point one of the rings signed the transaction with their private key.
If you are a coder, I highly recommend checking out the CCS funded https://www.moneroinflation.com/ and looking around for subjects of interests.

bump, not even bump limit ._.

yo bros, been out for a while. any new updates/news on the xmr front?

But seriously how is a json parser token that does nothing and has no legitimate business and only buyers are cultists on an anime fan website have 2x the marketcap of a coin used for international drug dealing internet cheese pizza trading and global tax evasion?

>>56263143
>yo bros, been out for a while. any new updates/news on the xmr front?

Full-chain membership proofs = ring signatures are on their way out.

>>56256627
>How exactly do I check these these fees in practice?
You should see the fee on your screen when getting ready to send a tx. I don't remember if the tx fee is visible on the block chain but you might be able to check the recent txs and compare if the fee seems too high on your tx

>>56215995
Based

>>56263143
Neither have I, but turns out Antminer's used CPU bundle was released. 3k USD pricetag and it's basically running 12 RISC-V CPUs, namely a Sophon SG2042 designed for server use. Alongside a powersupply, controller chips, RAM, etc. A whole bunch of fuzz for nothing. But I bet BTC maxipads won't be able to tell the difference.

>>56266666

>crosspost from bitchan

evening, anons
would any of you be interested/think others would be interested in a monero amazon shopping proxy, like anonshop.app, but peer-to-peer?
i've been thinking of creating a localmonero-like system, since amazon could easily ban accounts like the owner of anonshop's if most of their orders are out of the country. it would be better if there were a suite of "buyers" and you could choose which to use.
this would also let buyers set their own taxes and let them use benefits of their amazon account, e.g. if they have a prime account, they can charge less for shipping. it also makes another way of earning monero which would be swell
the only implementation issue is how the custodial wallet would work. does the system favor the customer or the buyer? how much proof would be needed to deal with refunds/issues etc? should the buyer get the money before they order it?

>>56267835
bitchan still dead or nah?

>>56266671
$3k for what kinda hashrate?

>>56267955
pmuch yeah

>>56267835
Isn't there already a website where vendors bid to take orders from anons who want to pay in xmr? The name evades me, but I'm pretty sure that it already exists. MM already has escrow and refunds, but autists still only seem to only to simp, buy fiat/drugs (on dnm) and cock.li invites. Best of luck to you anon, but the market just doesn't seem to be there.
>>56267955
Sadly, just like the above mentioned, if these types only seem to want privacy to consoom, then installing and using i2p just doesn't seem to be necessary. Which is a shame, because the whonix/qubes thread is very interesting as it opened my eyes to just how fucked up fails is.

>>56263681

Are you sure it will happen ?

>>56269924
Whenever they finish it, the sooner the better.
>>56269269
~220kh, but it only does xmr-rx, none of the other, more profitable coins or algos. So its a piece of shit.

>>56215979
Why is Monero with its randomx asic resistance, decentralized nature as a result, not worth 10 million dollars a coin yet? This baby is going directly to the moon, and ring signatures will make it so it’s just us Anon’s on the moon. Any anon without a Monero suicide stack is simply not an anon. Nothing personal, normies

>>56260813
Most mathchad comment ITTz for a real long time. Thank you anon.

>>56252116
>remain anon
>hotel and travelling
anon, i...

>>56270933
>leave my room
>people can see me
>they can read my name on the mailbox
It's over. The glowies won.

>>56269826
>how fucked up fails is
You talk about tails, why is it fucked up?

>>56271045
>name on the mailbox
i seriously hope you guys don't do this

>>56263436
>marketcap of a coin
Market cap of a curency is meaningless IMO.
What is MC of gold or land or time or women?

>>56270933
every little bit counts, glowies might actually have to leave their basement and pick up the phone instead of digitally tracking you

>>56271630
Lurk the bitch if you want to know the nitty gritty, but it really sunk in when I realized that tails does not support, even in the slightest, i2p via tor. The fascination with tor-only, the fact that the ONLY way to get a custom bridge is to, paraphrasing: "please send a blank email, VIA GMAIL FROM YOUR CELLPHONE, to blahblah@tor.glows to receive a qr code that can only be read with a laptop/usb camera." I tried sending one from a protonmail address, for fun, and it got returned undeliverable after like 15 minutes. The last fails version that could support i2p was from 2017, and considering how easily linux distros fork, the i2p supported version completely died, without even an image to torrent. They defended whonix and qubes to the point that I would use it, but I purposefully am trying to breathe new life into a shitty netbook and it would die trying.

Considering i2p has a one-click installer on winblows and like 4 steps for most distros, the only reason it isn't bigger is because the glowniggers want in your backdoor.
>>56270448
Give it a while. Digital covid, dollar milkshake and the mark will make you wish for "the old days" soon enough.
>>56263436
The same reason kaspa is now top50 in mere months: kikes get off on control.

PAYING 1 MONERO FOR EVERY DEAD JANNIE THE TERRORISTS BEHEAD

>>56273344
If it could be so easy

bump

>>56269826
dang, there is? let me know if you remember the name of it. yeah i guess you'd go with something like what MM does but probably a bit more frictionless. you're probably right, though - considering that anonshop personally handles his orders, i don't think there's enough people for it to be a thing. thanks for the help, anon.

nyancatmoney.com
>nyancatmoney.com
nyancatmoney.com
>nyancatmoney.com
nyancatmoney.com
>nyancatmoney.com
nyancatmoney.com
>nyancatmoney.com

The NyanCatMoney spam will continue until the marketcap improves.

Jannies have tongued my anus 170 times.

nyancatmoney.com
>nyancatmoney.com
nyancatmoney.com
>nyancatmoney.com
nyancatmoney.com
>nyancatmoney.com
nyancatmoney.com
>nyancatmoney.com

This is incredibly fun to watch you seethe for us NCM chads, why not buy a bag and turn your seethe into joy? This is a hostile take over of biz and it will not stop

Jannies have tongued my anus 218 times.

nyancatmoney.com
>nyancatmoney.com
nyancatmoney.com
>nyancatmoney.com
nyancatmoney.com
>nyancatmoney.com
nyancatmoney.com
>nyancatmoney.com

This is incredibly fun to watch you seethe for us NCM chads, why not buy a bag and turn your seethe into joy? This is a hostile take over of biz and it will not stop

Jannies have tongued my anus 252 times.

Anyone mess with the monerochan model on civitai? I've been tinkering with a nonanime style, don't have me.

>>56279321
Meant to say hate. Eh, whatever.

>>56279321
>Anyone mess with the monerochan model on civitai?

How does one go about doing this?

>>56229156
>Botting the monero threads is gay
no one would ever do that anon, there are 300 post/h on biz, the board is DEAD. No one would care

>>56250884
Moonfaggotry is in your dna

>>56251727

>>56251356
>While selling xmr

>>56279591
1. NVIDIA graphics card
2. download stable diffusion 1.5 with automatic1111
3. insert this model into the lora folder. https://civitai.com/models/23982/monerochan

>>56251815
>>56251106
Idk, go ask techniggers on /g/. This is /biz/. We just tell you we think number go up because technigger stuff we don't understand. If you really want to know the nuts and bolts of it though, the chans might not be the place. Might have to result to youtube cryptography lessons.

>>56251106
You gotta start small, basics of cryptography and work your way up.
It will take a while. Even then it will still be a pain unless you are one of the few chosen ones.

t. Had both basic and advance crypto at top uni almost failed both and now I don't remember anything anymore cause surprise surprise, you don't use these things at actual dev job.

>>56279591
Meant to mention, the Copax checkpoint will give you more traditional Monerochan.

I'm running a full node over i2p.
Can I still pool mine on clearnet (looking at p2pool)? Or do I need to find a special i2p pool to connect to?

>>56281121
p2pool should work fine with i2p/tor, but I haven't personally tried it. Make sure to create a wallet specifically for mining, p2pool shows which addresses got a payout and only supports your main address (the one that starts with a 4)

>>56277671
It is my wish that all Christian men offer their wares and services in such a way that inoculates them from the jew, but without enough advocacy we are all cursed to worship at the feet of satan.
>>56279321
>short hair
>gay city background
>monerochan dressed as a whore
fail.
>>56281121
Do you mean mine with the i2p node and outproxy to p2pool? Why? Keep normalfag shit on clearnet, you only run the risk of your i2p work being linked to something as mundane as mining.

Slowly but surely....

>>56281121
This is awesome.

with the increased hashrate because of the new bitmain x5, should I worry that in the future I couldn't keep up with hardware standards?

>>56281624
>with the increased hashrate because of the new bitmain x5, should I worry that in the future I couldn't keep up with hardware standards?

The X5 is a big juicy nothingburger.

>Bitmain Antminer X5 Testing - HUGE Failure!! Don't Waste Your Money
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRLZitXASaM

>>56281575
One day, brother.
>>56281624
Considering they're a piece of shit that will only weigh down xmr mining, and only until the devs roll out rx2.0, you can always mine more profitable coins and algos in the mean time. Worst case scenario you're going to see prices drop on mining hardware as other upgrade to them or better rigs in general.

>>56281327
>Mentions original subversion against White people, the Jewish desert religion
>Talks about inoculation against Jew via neo-Jewish desert religion
fail

>>56282117
Go worship satan elsewhere, heathen.

>>56235694
>Do you have a tier where you just design just one aspect? For example: Just a logo, just a business card, etc? Not everyone has 38 xmr like to have the whole kit and kaboodle.
I price it that much because I give infinite revisions, something no one in this industry does because they like to nickel and dime people with examples/mockups of logos. Most of the magic and value is in the mark itself, I work a lot on those. If I try to price down with separate packages, like a logo and biz card vs a logo and a letter head, it just becomes a race to the bottom. I can charge a special discount, ie 2K-2.5K if you have someone else willing to pay or if you're super serious and is willing to work with me instantly, just message me and I'll work something out on the listing. Again, I don't take payments for anything unless you like something. I give the most for free so I can take the most that I can possibly want in the end. It's my way of helping others. Charging 10K-15K is bananas and something all the graduates in the field are doing so I like to give a better price and value in the end

>>56283300
>2K-2.5K if you have someone else willing to pay
By this I mean if you have a referral willing to hop on and get a logo themselves, just to clarify to clear any potential confusion

>>56283300
>>56283326
thanks, brandon

My XMR bag is down 46%

>>56284613
you've had 18 months to average down.

>>56284613
>My XMR bag is down 46%

>>56284613
Wow anon that’s impressive timing you have. Let us know your next moves

>>56284613
Wow bros monero is Le Bad

>>56284613
XMR has failed as a project.. its over

>>56284613
One of the most retarded buys I've ever done. Elon tweeted about Tesla not using BTC anymore and I swapped ETH/BTC for 35k XMR because at the time it was looking like promising tech with a solid usecase while othercoins seemed overvalued. Funnily enough that day just so happened to be the peak (12th May 2021)

>>56285568
35k USD in XMR btw, not 35k XMR

If you ever bought an electric car what car would you buy something that lacks all the modern spyware and extra costs

>>56285568
>it was looking like promising tech with a solid usecase while othercoins seemed overvalued.

lol its still the only coin with a solid usecase, in fact its the only coin actually being used RIGHT NOW for its intended usecase.

>>56285657
I haven't sold it and I don't plan on selling it, other anons laugh at it, especially in this general, but I have hopes for longterm gains with XMR

>>56285723
you've never posted in these generals name fag.

>>56286218
>>56286218
>>/biz/thread/55673576
Here's one I can find retard where I get the "cashing out for fiat isn't the point" and other general seething about buying Monero for an investment.

Faggot.

>>56237007
There is about 20 something or so you get a certificate of authenticity with the plush and a serial number that tells you which plush you got. When you get one make sure to give her a gun, cigar, pipe or glass of shot and post

>>56281575
Really weird how the stablecoins don't have higher usage. You'd think that being immediately able to tell the value would encourage use. Like PayPal with lower fees

>>56288881
the fees are lower right?

>>56287073
ive shipped #79 yesterday.

please keep in mind that the quality will go down the later you buy one since ive shipped all the flawless ones first (little stuff like the edge of the skirt not being cut as cleanly, easily fixed by trimming with scissors but still)

https://youtu.be/DWaKB11caTo

>>56281575
>LN 2x
It's over...

>>56289006
>muh LN
https://nitter.salastil.com/sethforprivacy/status/1702121099180282350

>>56286896
You clearly rarely post in here if you think anyone gives a shit you lost money. Go sell.

>Introducing Neveko: https://github.com/creating2morrow/neveko
>full-stack privacy application with gpg messaging, monero multisig and built-in i2p marketplace
>Still a work in progress, and pretty much an alpha. But run it, and give feedback, file issues---very much appreciated.
>Monero + I2P = ( THE FINAL SOLUTION to the taxman question )

Unfathomably based and agoristpilled. Kudos for going with I2P instead of Tor, this is the way.

Post a reminder in every General, this is exactly the kind of thing the circular Monero economy needs.

>>56289172
Turns out lightning network is a way to centralize control over dumb users who don’t want to pay fees. Easy to fuck things up in crypto kek satoshi would be like what the fuck guys 1 cpu 1 vote? Decentralization? So as it stands Monero is the crypto successor to Bitcoin, and Bitcoin is the open chain governments favored crypto. Mostly because they failed to destroy Bitcoin and replace it with blockchain bullshit scam coins like PoS Eth and all its many derivatives. Interesting

>>56288895
Did you start placing something between the acrylic pieces of the anime figurine so they don't scratch

>>56288881
Chinks use stablecoins a lot

>>56228970
Nigger.

Regardless of ASICs or misconfigured software does pic rel change monero mining?
Why would miners farm those higher hashrate nonces (horizontal lines)?

Can I just say I love you guys? I really don't care if XMR grows or not, it will always be used on the darkweb and I feel safe using it.

>>56293249
explain what this is like I am a retard

>>56289214
You missed the point newfag, the thing other anons laugh at is the fact that people bought Monero as an investment as opposed to muh financial independence where 1 monero = 1 monero. You actually must be new if you think the issue is that "people don't care you lost money" which wasn't the discussion at all.

>>56293298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9BFnn2-TDM&t=500s

any monero or crypto podcasts you listen to anons? I'm curious

>>56294048
monero talk i guess
>https://www.youtube.com/@MoneroTalk/videos

Where can I buy weed with moneron in europe? Asking for a friend

>>56294219
Nevermind

>>56290979
There is a really hard to see protective film on the acrylics. If yours looks like its scratched, you probably just have to pull that off :)

>>56294459
too late, enjoy prison.

>>56285568
If only I could pay rent with monero that’s all I need

>>56294465
Oh.

If you're using Tor, you're anonymous but you're not private. If you use Monero on Tor, aren't you compromising your privacy? As in, can't whoever is operating the Tor node see what Monero key you enter in to make transactions?

I also wonder how many spooks are operating Monero remote nodes

fallen in love with monero + monerochan

Why is there no DAO or any agent dedicated to the manufacturing industry it feels like a fucking joke all crypto is based around scamming other people and not building physical infraestructure like building recyclers or the next tmsc why not outcompete china in the process

>>56296630
time to permanently bury your seed inside her now...

>>56298749
>pic
This is too much for my kokoro.

ISIS fundraising with XMR has put Monero back in the headlines

> 6 October, 2023
>ISIS mouthpiece calls for donations in Monero (XMR): Here is how ISIS funds terrorist activities using cryptocurrency and what FM Sitharaman said about it

Around 3rd October, the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) or Islamic State, released the 29th issue of its propaganda magazine, Voice of Khurasan, published by its media front al-Azaim Foundation. For the first time in this particular magazine’s history, ISIS has called for donations via cryptocurrency using Monero (XMR). The current price of 1 XMR is 149 USD.

Page 61st of the 62-page issue was dedicated to the call for donations titled ‘Please Donate For Waging Jihad With Wealth’. The magazine further pointed out that the money collected would be used for “financing those who are waging the same [Jihad] with their lives”.

>Social media used to ‘encourage’ pro-ISIS elements to donate Monero coins

In June 2023, the Counter Extremism Project (CEP) found that pro-ISIS elements were trying to purchase phone numbers using Monero cryptocurrency to bypass social media verification. CEP further found that pro-ISIS elements were recommending donating Monero coins to an ISIS propaganda website that contained videos, magazines, articles and other material related to ISIS.

Picrel is the actual flyer that's being disseminated on jihadi social media. Note the Monero logo.

https://www.opindia.com/2023/10/isis-magazine-jihad-monero-terrorist-activities-cryptocurrenc-india-nirmala-sitharaman/


So, there's darknet commerce, ransomware piracy, transatlantic cocaine trade and now this. The glowies must be going crazy.

Monero-chan is about to hit the big time, boys.

>>56300051
finally they saw the light.

I wonder which wallet they are using. The GUI? Or the feather?

>>56300166
>finally they saw the light.

ISIS have actually been using Monero since 2020, when they announced they were done with Bitcoin.

>>56230658
>>56231591
It's not that we like them but that terrorists/pedos/... being able to get away with using it is a strong indicator of Monero working for people who don't have as many GTA stars. Same thing applies for Tor, I2P, Linux... 4chan will just mindlessly meme it as a positive + general contrarianism.

>>56232393
Repeating history lol.
>Those gold paper are based on gold so immune to debasement goy.

>>56300051
I wonder if ISIS has discovered Monerochan yet.

>>56288895
Thats ok! :3

When using
>xmrig -o p2pooladdress.com:12345
it seems to ignore any other command line arguments I might pass, and anything in my config file.
Specifically, I can't seem to limit the CPU usage at all.

When I use the -o option, does it somehow pull the cpu usage from the p2pool node? What the hell is going on?

>>56303457
nvm i'm a dummy

>>56242417
Buy invites here before they become useless.
https://moneromarket.io/listing/f3554cec-f116-46c2-b506-6cd7ced08311

>>56263681
qrd on full-chain membership proofs?

Forgive me mommynero-chan for I have sold my modest stack
Anons, please take advantage of the massive pump that is certain to happen before I can start repenting

>>56301471
Well I mean, that's how money is. Imagine Saddam Hussein owned some gold bars and they ended up in your hand.
>Oh fuck, Saddam Hussein owned some gold bars. I better dump them, now they are worthless
I just goes to show you that Bitcoin isn't money. Monero is the only digital money that exists. People just don't realize it yet.

>>56300051
>Social media used to ‘encourage’ pro-ISIS elements to donate Monero coins
oh no! who could've done this?

>>56303807
>qrd on full-chain membership proofs?

Instead of a limited ringsize of 16 or whatever Monero gets an effective ringsize of every single output on the blockchain, up to 777 million.

Basically all the vulnerabilities discussed on Breaking Monero would no longer be even a theoretical concern and Zcucks/ButtPirates would start roping en masse.

>>56304527
Sounds pretty good. Is it any close to being reality or is it some theoretical speculative thing? Also whatever happened to the Seraphis/Jamtis thing?

>>56304622
>Is it any close to being reality or is it some theoretical speculative thing?

Most of the work has already been done, just needs some fine tuning and a proper series of audits.

https://youtu.be/IAcdRZSsIQo?t=804

>Also whatever happened to the Seraphis/Jamtis thing?

Still on the agenda. FCMP could actually be integrated in the same hardfork assuming the upgrade to a suitable elliptic curve is made.

Morning terrorists, let's discuss totally secret plots to bring down The System. You can trust me I have monito coin

>>56300051
not a big fan of mudslimes but i guess there is no such thing as bad publicity.

>>56303777
They're becoming useless because anyone can sign up without a invite. Just give them away.

>>56305923
yeah but my account needed an invite from an existing user so that makes it more exclusive and by extension, makes me a cooler person.
checkmate.

Reminder that moonfags get the rope.

binance or binance US for monero?

>>56307260
Moonfags get the rope? What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.