/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>55823425
looking good

>>55823425
I am financially ruined.

Post your stack.

>won an auction of a dozen dimes last weekend
>still not arrived
I know for a fact they were 100% dispatched in an envelope last week, tfw some mail worker probably stole my junk

>>55823459
i give all of my shipping two weeks.
after that is when i start asking questions. If i dont get it within a week after that I just report to ebay and get my money back. Dont care if it shows up on my doorstep the next day.

>>55823448
My animu is so lewd. I hope she doesn't mind me taking pictures of her.

Should I buy 100 oz bar of silver or will that be too difficult to exchange if needed?

First for Morgans

gm frens

>>55823590
Nah, get a 1kg tops if you don't have one and then keep the rest as 10oz maximum

>>55823590
About ten years ago I exchanged two 100oz silver bars for gold at the LCS. Couldn't have been easier. Dude glanced at the bars, gave me spot price, and a discount on the gold because I was doing an exchange.

do you guys have any opinion of these guys?
https://www.moneymetals.com/
I've bought from them once before mostly because they're in the same state I am but wanna know if I'm getting screwed on premiums or if they're pretty average.

>>55823500
Waow, you can even see her toes.

>>55823650
I bought from them once before and it took forever to get my order because it was sent from a fag state.
>wanna know if I'm getting screwed on premiums or if they're pretty average
Then compare the price of what you want on other sites.

>>55823687
>sent from a fag state
what are you implying?
I happen to be from Idaho which is where Money Metals is located.

>>55823699
Oh, Money Metals. Sorry, I thought you linked Monument Metals. Money Metals are based, unlike Monument Metals who are yankee faggots.

>ASEs for $27.41
bros....

>>55823611
checked

>>55823820
Where?

>>55823894
Bold PMs. Even cheaper now.
Their inventory has halved since I checked it this morning.

So during the zombie apocalypse, will people care about face value at all, or just about silver content? For example, this fine specimen contains 7g of silver. There's also 10DM coins 9.69g silver, which is obviously not twice the silver. To make matters worse, there's also a newer 10DM with 14.34g silver and higher 925 purity (the others are just 625). How do you imagine the normies to cope with this, of at all?

>>55823500
that's an interesting brick with the rough sides but crafted top
any other pics of it?

>>55823709
>germania
I'd like one of their 1 oz bars
someday, maybe

yea

>>55823939
Could be a COMEX bar slice.

>>55823967
Those look nice

>>55823984
Some of the 5DMs look cool, too. Sadly just 625, but very close to spot so the copper is free.

>>55824013
I hope you know that they're closer to spot only because the silver purity is lower. "The copper is free" doesn't make much sense because the cost of refining the silver from the copper and vice versa would offset the value of the copper. This is why 35% silver nickels and 40% silver half dollars are often sold below spot in the US.

>>55824030
I did the math and yeah, they're still worth it. The 925 10DMs are slightly better but not that much. The worst part about the copper is the bulk/weight it adds.

>>55824030
>the math
Was done using picrel. Also refining at home is always an option although not really worth it for coins ever. Maybe it's different for 35-40% silver that's really low.

>>55823448
Nice try fed

>>55824147
>Nice try fed
That's my fucking stack ya paranoid tit.

>>55824147
Nothing wrong with just giving them a little tease

>>55824210
Tease

>one gallon of gas
>$20 dollars
>one ounce of silber
>$1

Ok so how many more centuries until the moon mission boys

>>55823611
mornin

crypto nerds will seethe

yeah

A 10oz bar silver cast is still pure silver right? Dumb question, but wanna make sure since it has that in the title and others don't.

>>55824689
Speaking of crypto nerds, apparently these are popping up everywhere now.

>>55823448
Very cool jade, anon.

>>55824748
Yes. Cast bars are the loafy ones and stamped/minted bars are the uniform ones. Both solid silver

>>55824775
these machines steal like 10% of your crypto for every transaction too. just goes to show the calibre of people involved in crypto these days

>>55823920
My LSC offers $6 over spot for Eagles. Thanks anon

>>55824724
Are those 50 peso gold coins in the lower left ?also
>plastic flips and not capsules

>>55824830
>Very cool jade, anon.

>>55824775
The system is about to go down and they haven't enough sheep levered up.

Coin cleaning is numismatic trooning.

You will never be uncirculated. You have no detail, you have no luster, you have no open field. You are a circulated piece twisted by chemicals and abrasives into a crude mockery of a mint’s perfection. All the “value” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your stackers are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “dealers” laugh at your ghoulish appearance behind closed doors. Collectors are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of hours at shows have allowed dealers to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even cleaned coins which “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a grader. Your hairlines are a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk guy to buy you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets out the magnifying loop. You will never be valuable. You look at the red book every morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight. Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll submit a form, pack an envelope, pay the $50, and submit to NGC. The graders will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to worry about a fraud circulating. They’ll slab you with a label marked "cleaned", and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a fraud is graded there. Your slab will stagnate and be covered in dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a shelfwarmer forever occupying a coin shop.

>>55824830
Very based. Happy fay of rest, all! Take it easy today, /PMG/

>>55825216
Meant to say day of rest. You guys knew what I meant though, I’m sure :^)

>>55824957
Kek the transaction fees for silver are like 20%. What does that say about you?

>>55825258
>transaction fees
what?

>>55825266
Talking about premiums.
>inb4 p2p has no premiums

Same with crypto

>>55825258
>>55825281

>>55825337
Nothing wrong with premiums. Just pointing out that you shouldn't throw stones while living in a glass house.

>>55823448
I refuse to post stack until muh gilded crusader apu arrives

If the dollar ain't shit, then how many pieces of silver would he charge to attend his show?

>>55825522
>how many would he charge
He doesn't look jewish

>>55825177
Based

>>55825413
the machines take fees in addition to basic transaction costs

>>55825413
Transaction fees aren’t the same as premiums for precious metals. You can say the crypto atm fees act like premiums or the exchange charges you a premium to get your crypto. But once you have gold/silver in your possession you can transact without fees when using it as money. No transaction fees like crypto.

>>55823928
>How do you imagine the normies to cope with this, of at all?
Yes.
But what's probably going to happen:
https://www.tagesspiegel.de/wirtschaft/im-suden-europas-ist-die-d-mark-offizielles-zahlungsmittel-631147.html
People will just keep using euros, because that's what they're used to and you'll use your precious metals to obtain more paper, if you need it for shopping. People like stability.
That said:
I'm really starting to appreciate pre-euro euro silver. Most of it is 640, unfortunately, but damn, some of them are really sweet! Really like the 100 ÖS reverse.

>>55825775
Oh, and ever since some anon posted some GDR coins a few threads back, I kinda became obsessed with them.
How on earth did they look at this and go
>Ja, this surely is going to show how communism is superior!
For fucks sake, commie stuff has a lot of æstethic masterpieces, and they came up with this? WTF?
And even more WTF: They are fucking expensive, even though they shat them out by the truckload. Why?
>>55824030
>"The copper is free" doesn't make much sense
Of course it doesn't, but I, for one, really like this meme!

>>55825800
Yeah me too but I don't want anon to blow his stack money on 62.5% silver unironically

>>55825697
>paying the ATM fee of 10% , plus a blockchain transaction fee of $1 to move thousands of dollars is outrageous.
>if you use an exchange instead, the fee is O.5% to purchase, plus $1 blockchain transaction fee.
>not needing to buy a $700 Smegma machine to test authenticity
>not wasting time(money) and gasoline to physically seek out a willing buyer in person.

No matter which way you slice it, a greater percentage of value is extracted from you when using precious metals as a medium of exchange. Which was the original gripe you had with the crypto ATM.

>>55825846
I see your point, but I guess the original
>copper for free!
anon has a point:
With euro VAT and a long term view and/or a doomer outlook, going for something cheap and recognizable could still make sense.
Plus, in the meantime, those coins often have a very low spread (like >5%!), so assuming society won't collapse, they might fetch a better price than bullion silver, which tends to get sold way above spot, but bought back below it.

>>55825889
You’re just retarded. Imagine paying a fee for every purchase you make. This isn’t even one of crypto’s biggest problems.

When can we expect to make profit?
When will gold and silver moon?
You told me that I will be able to buy a mansion for my gold coin in 2025.
Is BRICS gold currency real and will it make the line on a chart go up?

>>55825964
Its a $1 fee or less you broke nigger. Do you also complain when you buy a pair of socks that come in plastic bag which cost the manufacturer money and is included in the final price you pay?

>>55825923
Yes but not quite. In his case it would be better to stack the 0.925 fineness DMarks (0.900 is the equivalent here in the US) because the finer silver would take priority in demand over the debased 0.625 fineness (see Gresham's law).
Outside of a currency collapse scenario yes of course they will sell closer to spot, but I predict that if he were to sell to others, especially dealers, only subpar offers for them would be received (much as how the debased nickels and halves sell for below spot in the US)

>>55825990
I don’t expect to make profit, I just expect to be able to use the metals I’ve stacked to continue to trade for resources in the event the global financial systems fall to ruin again.

>>55826021
>$1 fee
Yea because no one uses it. That’s still not a premium dumbass, it’s a transaction fee.
>>55824689

How do I know if my copper bars are real

>>55825258
>Kek the transaction fees for silver are like 20%. What does that say about you?

It says that I can sell my silver above spot and possibly above the 20% premium I paid for them.

>>55826099
Put those damn goalposts back where you found them.

>>55826026
Sure, US is rather different, because you
a) have plenty of junk in higher finenesses (or whatever the correct plural for fineness is) and
b) don't have taxes on silver, whereas we have, but don't have them on junk.
But looking at greshams law, it probably would make sense to have a bunch of low fineness stuff to spend first, instead of wasting your good stuff on mundane purchases.

>>55825775
By zombie apocalypse I mean hyperinflation which is exactly when people don't want to use euros any more if they can help it. The low purity is a shame but it's still ~2/3 silver which isn't so bad, especially given the price. In any case some of the designs are kino.
>>55825800
Abomination.

>>55826182
Could be. But could also be that people will just only accept the OG euro notes with 2 zeros at max. Or the OG coins.
>sure that breads 5€.
>oh, wow! Are you sure? No problem, I’ve got 5 billion euros, I’ll just buy the whole store!
>sorry pal, I’m only accept euros with Mario Dragis signature on them, go shopping with your toilet paper elsewhere!

>>55826104
Envisage the aroma

>>55826155
Good luck with your crypto anon. Are you holding BTC or LTC or XMR or LINK or DOGE or PEPE or ETH or SHIBA or one of the others? I’m sure ygmi.

>>55823425
I like your stack. Bunch of gold, bunch of silver, no fancy stuff.
My stack, and the rational mans stack at the same time, is this:
4x 1oz gold Maple Leaf and Britannia
75x 1oz silver Maple Leaf and Britannia

>>55825889
lol, get lost crypto nerd
>not needing to buy a $700 Smegma machine to test authenticity
not needed

>>55825056
Dude that is more than i paid for Maples or Britannias and i have 19% VAT in it. Why would you buy Eagles? I buy my silver like i buy my gold, 1.5% premium max (silver 20.5% because VAT).

>>55823928
I was born that year.
BTW, it's the best eagle of them all. See how he screams in agony? It amuses me.
>during the zombie apocalypse
Yes, you get bread for silver, so even your 5 Mark are useful (half a loaf of bread i guess). But 999.9 silver/gold will always seen as more valuable.
However, zombie apocalypse is unlikely. Just extrapolate what you have now into the future, it's the most likely scenario. In that case, high silver content, unused coins with security features will get the highest prices.

>>55823960
yea

>>55824013
>>55823967
>>55824028
Bad eagles. Change my mind. Pro tip, you can't.

>>55824147
Dat biceps.

>>55824775
Crypto was over two years ago.
picrel

>>55825070
>plastic flips and not capsules
So?

>>55825177
lel

>>55825800
Everything in the DDR was shite, even the artists that made the coin portraits. What a disgrace the real existierender Sozialismus was.

>>55826104
Volume, weight, resistance and eddy current magnetism.

>>55826870
plastic flips aren't airtight and have weird chemicals in them. you definitely wanna discard after unpacking

>>55824147
Every single time l see an old woman like this in public or inside Walmart, l instantly have the urge to do something about her and make her pay reperations for fucking up my chance of having a normal life in this economic climate.
This bitch probably lives in a 2-story suburban house on the good side of town that her dead husband already paid off decades ago and does nothing but hoard stray cats that make the whole house smell like cat piss and fills the house with worthless antique store knick-knacks as she her mental heath withers away into obscurity until she finally croaks.
I can think of a couple things she can do before she outlives her usefulness if you know what l mean.

>>55826997
What incel retard logic led you to the conclusion that living in a house you paid off is bad and has somehow harmed you?

>>55824775
theres only one near me and its right next to a police station lol

>>55826870
>taxes on buying precious metals
ouch
no sales tax or otherwise on buying precious metals where I live

>find guy on ebay selling 4chan meme rounds for exorbitant prices
>look at his other listings
some shit just writes itself

>>55827366
what the fuck, lmao

>>55827366
>14 watchers

>>55827366
absolute state of 4chan

>>55827481
Yeah but you got the whole anime thing going on so should you really be speaking up?

>>55827564
re: tard

>>55827366
What is it about this website that attracts perverts?

>>55827605
>be weirdo
>don't spend as much time outside around behavior-adjusting normalfags
>spend more time on insular interests
>find a website that caters to weirdos with insular interests
Is it any surprise some of the busiest boards here are for Video games, Cartoons/Comics, and Anime? And boards like /fit/, /sp/, and /out/ hardly have a fraction of the activity

>>55823448

>>55827605
the extremes on both ends of the bell curve tend to be sexual deviants for whatever reason and both ends congregate here for whatever reason

>>55823425
Why do people recommend gold over silver? In a SHTF situation, wouldn't silver be easier to break down into usable quantities? If I need to buy 10 pounds of rice, what am I supposed to do with gold, break off 0.001 ounces of gold?

>>55827825
>those lock boxes
at least its convenient to haul off

>>55827845
silver is the clear go to if you're thinking there will be a true SHTF scenario. In that case you'd want to stockpile the cheapest silver national currency, probably like roosevelt dimes or something that would be recognizable to the average normie

So if you were gonna buy a gold coin just to buy a gold coin which one would you buy? I was thinking a Krugerrand since it's alloyed so I could play with it more without fucking it up.
The downside is that it doesn't look as good as purer gold coins.

>>55827891
yeah gold krug is great, everybody's gotta have 1

>>55823448
How about just the recent additions
>>55824830
I need to start looking at pendants that is brilliant

>>55827891
Krugs look a little rosy fresh from the mint, but over time that mellows out and they look great. But if I were only going to buy one gold coin it would probably be a Saint Gaudens

>>55827848
Good luck finding them :^)

>>55827891
>he doesnt know about Kruggerand milk spots

>>55828019
>milk spots on gold
wat

>>55827861
Don't old silver coins cost more than their weight though? Why not just buy silver bars?

>>55827957

>>55828030
More accurately copper spots from minute copper concentrations in the alloy. Somewhat rare with most gold coins though

>>55828059
in a SHTF scenario, you're going to have the same issue as gold with big silver bars: how do you break enough off to pay for a few bags of rice or whatever.

Whereas it's really easy to pay with a silver dime/quarter etc + recognizable factor.

of course in a true SHTF scenario, having actual silver isn't probably going to help you right away. Guns/ammo/food/medicine/antibiotics etc are all going to be more important right away.

>>55828059
Someone makes this post in every thread

tfw my queen's beast and the top eagle in my mint tube are tarnishing
It's all ogre

>>55828128

>>55828132

>>55828102
Remember, gold and silver were used as money for a long time BEFORE the coin was invented. People simply weighed the chunks of metal. And that was before electronic scales were available. And pieces of eight were routinely cut into bits to pay smaller amounts. PMs are infinitely divisible. One of several reasons they have always been money.

>>55828128
The baking soda treatment will take care of that. But you might want to get some anti-tarnish cloth bags. Also, quit farting so much.

>>55828093

>>55828184
daaamn you got that one, you're cool

>>55828102
Could you buy silver coins or very small bars? Just not actual US coins which are at least twice the cost of their melt value.
>Guns/ammo/food/medicine/antibiotics etc are all going to be more important right away
yes, but eventually things will calm down, and life will resume. But fiat currency will be useless still so we need something to buy stuff with. What happens in countries where the currency collapses?
>>55828156
>PMs are infinitely divisible
A dollar of gold would be like a single grain of sand. Wouldn't it be difficult to buy everyday items with gold in the modern world? If currency collapses and we have to buy things with PMs, it just seems like silver would have more everyday use if you're buying things that currently cost like $5-10.

john wick silver and gold

>>55828294
>If currency collapses and we have to buy things with PMs, it just seems like silver would have more everyday use if you're buying things that currently cost like $5-10.
Agreed. I wouldn't even rule out pre1982 copper pennies as a practical medium of exchange for smaller purchases in the event of currency collapse.

>>55828294
>A dollar of gold would be like a single grain of sand
Goldbacks, but even smaller.

>>55823667
Yeah, and her thighs.

>>55823939
I'm away from home, I'll post once I get back.

for small values use barter or bullets
no use getting autistic or buying dumb shit like combibars

>>55828359
>no use getting autistic or buying dumb shit like combibars

>>55828359
Not buying high premium shit. Combi bars are retarded.

>>55827366
We need to purge the world with nuclear fire.

let's be real, metro 2033 is probably closer to a shtf barter system than gold/silver pipe dreams

>>55828359
bullets are not fungible. they are not money

>>55828432
>>55828294
do Venezuelans use silver too or just gold?

>>55823425
Man that looks like leprechaun is a bard singing to us about how our dollar is shit and taxed.
Gives up drinking and let's Jesus take the wheel. One month later becomes music sensation.
What did God mean by this?

>>55828478
>fungible
ok then I'm gonna start hoarding CME cheese since that's a fungible and traded commodity

>>55828184
Neat stuff, anon. Can you tell me more about the Ryoko round? Is it real silver?

>>55828294
That’s why I stack pre 82s/Canadian pennies in addition to gold and silver
fuck it, they’re basically free

What is a gold coin that would make the holder the most popular kid at the pmg lunch table?

>>55828764
A good aureus or solidus would make me pretty jealous, everyone has different tastes though.

>>55824775
>>55824775
It'll be a neverending loop:
>Buy crypto
>Keep on hardware wallet
>Think this is a 200iq move
>Go to exchange crypto for cash
>"Due to an error, your withdrawal has been denied"
>Have a glorified jump drive full of crypto you can't use
>cryptonerdswillseethe.gif

Silver and gold are immune to such things.

Surprised I still have the highest bid on this, the real bidders don't come out till the very end I guess.

>>55828782
where are you bidding on stuff? just ebay? that seems fun maybe, I normally just buy it outright

>>55828810
https://www.romanumismatics.com/

>>55827159
people in North America hate the elderly and blame them for inflation. its disgusting.

>>55828782
That's cool, anon. The right side is especially neat with the sea creature. I got picrel last week and I have an ancient Aryan swastika coin in the mail now. The ancient coins are by far my favorite silver coins these days.

>>55828764

>>55828891
Did you clean that yet?

>>55828915

>>55828920
Ofc I did I just can't take any photos because my camera phone broke (^:

>>55828572
I wish it were anything more than brass, they come in the Tenchi Muyo OVA 10th Anniversary DVD, volume one (2-4 has Ayeka, Mihoshi, Sasami)

I'll find a way to make it silver one day, either by having BEX or someone print some, or laser etch it myself on a round

>>55829052
Ah that's really cool. I have the orignal OVAs on their first print DVD boxes. I got out of the anime buying game a while ago. Now if they started including a little silver bullion... that might get me back on that bullshit :p

>>55824374
2
More
Weeks

>>55829237
very misleading ad
although silver at $5.88 an ounce again would be pretty cash

>>55828764

>>55829287
yikes

The dull grey and black tarnish on my constitutional silvers bothers me, they really aren't worth anything in numistics, is baking soda + aluminum foil + boiled water the way to go to clean a coin? i don't wanna scratch them up, just make them shine

>>55829287

>>55829306
Just baking soda + vinegar (no scrubbing) Didn’t work for my Canadian junk silver coins that were heavily tarnished. Will try again tomorrow and give results with the aluminum foil method. Of note is that lots of it was received free, so I’m not out anything personally in cleaning them

>>55828764
>>55828915
nah senpai

>>55828782
Nice Taras Didrachm.
Any tips for getting ancient coins for a good price at auction?

I’ve been into ship coins lately, here’s the booty so far. Got an order of columbian expos in the mail. Not a big fan of any of the sunshine mint Caribbean island coins yet. What other ship themed coins are out there?

>>55829306
Ms70 coin cleaner withba cue tip,baking soda scratches the shit out of your silver ,and no one your selling to wants cleaned coins that have an unnatural mirror finish, look at uncleaned silver coins and notice how they have a cart wheel luster from the die process of the minting, you lose that with baking soda cleaning

The little guy knocked up a bbw and had twins

How much gold and silver you'll need if SHTF, Burgerland Edition:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPLgWDVxIXw&t

>>55829635
Never watching a PM YouTube channel that shows their ugly face instead of just showing off shinies while they talk.

>>55829287
I'm seething bros

>>55829488
the clean design of the asahi's is just so appealing

>>55828915
daaaaayum

I wanna take one of my krugerrands and chemically extract the gold and melt it down and get it as pure as possible for practice. How bad of an idea is this? How much gold will I likely lose in the process?

>>55829287
Reminder that this still hasn't sold out and every other US mint product sells out within hours

>>55829838
lmao well it is ugly

>>55829845
It's been for sale on the mint website for FIVE YEARS. Everything else is new for 2023.

>>55828915
Very nice

>>55829287
>2017 marks the 225th anniversary of the United States Mint. To mark this momentous occasion, we are proud to introduce the 2017 American Liberty 225th Anniversary Gold Coin™ featuring a modern rendition of Lady Liberty.
>featuring a modern rendition of Lady Liberty

>>55829287
I can't even be mad whenever I see this. It's just too fucking funny.

>>55829848
Pretty impressive considering it was a 100,000 limited minting
Idk what they were thinking considering the clientele for bullion mint coins, especially gold ones

>>55829935
>walks into gold shop, presents these
>clerk immediately asks if they were stolen

>>55828136
holy fuck, how do I prevent this?

>>55829954
>>55829969
idk, I literally bought the tube of eagles, took one out to put it in a capsule to play with and left the others closed. I bought them in 2018. The one in the capsule looks perfect.

>>55829969
>>55830009
it literally doesn't matter
it's just a bullion coin

>>55827366
These are the trannies that whine about people in this thread

>>55827605
>>55827794
>>55827826
The reason is this is the last place where you can say nigger, faggot or boomer without getting rekt.
For all the lowlifes and human scum here, it's a bastion of mostly free speech.

>>55827845
You exchange your gold for 70 ounces of silver or fiat, then buy rice.
A year of living cost can be stuffed into your wallet. You can sew it into your jacket. You can hide it in your butt crack.
Try the same with a year of living cost in silver.
Also gold is less volatile.

>>55827891
Buy 9999 gold with security features you can verify yourself, in 1oz for lowest premium. That means Maple Leaf or Britannia.
Nothing wrong with buying a Krugerrand for fondling, but you want security features to show possible buyers this is the genuine article.

>>55828019
That's what you get if you buy alloys that haven't been stirred properly.

>>55828488
That depends. Most use Euro or USD if they can. Some buy Euro and USD with silver or gold.
In the borders regions different currencies get accepted, like Brazilian reals.

>>55828294
>A dollar of gold would be like a single grain of sand. Wouldn't it be difficult
Yes, that is why you exchange gold for something else before you buy your bread. I really don't get why this is so hard to understand. Do you regulalrly buy a coffee with $10.000 US or whatever the largest one is?

>>55828915
>>55829416
Sweet!

>>55829476
What's in M70? Shit isn't available here.

Hey guys noob here, i have a question. I have some 18k Gold, Is there a safe way and does It even make sense to turn it in 24k ? Thank you in advance

>>55830089
>just give me your ASEs for spot

>>55828136
Premium queens in shambles

>>55828459
Well yeah if society is that far gone, only power and violence matters

>>55829475
I got a few of these when they were cheap. Kinda cringe but worth it.

>>55830417
good morning sir, no it does not make sense.

It genuinely feels like gold is going nowhere. Been stacking for over 3 years now and I just don't feel like buying any gold on this dip.

>>55830812
You don't buy gold as an investment, for that you buy stocks.
You buy gold because you like shiny and want a store of value that works over financial collapses.

>>55830812
>fud poster uses Saturn/Cube/Help imagery
Idk if this trolling, advanced trolling, reverse psychology or some glownigger bot got out of its containment chamber/cuck cage

Is it worth switching over to only 10oz/kilo coins instead of bars from now on?

>>55831203
It looks cool, great if you want to play $40+ more in premiums.

>>55827891
>So if you were gonna buy a gold coin just to buy a gold coin which one would you buy?
krug

most racist coin, relatively low premiums, .916 fine so you can fondle without care

mex eagle or corona are great fondlers too, but corona needs a little more density to be perfect and the mex eagle (my personal fav) is only worth it if you can snag a great deal somehow

>>55831203
Yes if your goal is to stack large weights of silver as the numismatic factor will allow you to sell it at a premium when you do.

>>55825522
To sit in his back yard next to the deer stand and hang with the dogs? Split a 6 pack of PBR.

>>55828344
The 1 goldback note is officially worth $4. I wonder what the plan is for sub-GB transactions. Will they offer sub-1GB denominations?

>>55830406
You don't have amazon or ebay,where do you live?

any of you /pmg/gers stack pokemon cards?

I want to buy some precious metal as a gift.
Thinking about old Japanese coins.
Where can I get historical coins like that if I'm in EU? Ebay?

>>55823448
Finally got around to taking a pic of my stack again

>>55832201
That's a very nice stack.

why does silver price keep going up and down

>>55832257
because the powers that be want to stack as much as they can.

>>55832372
>they stack silver because... they just do, ok?

>>55832394
>banks, world governments, and treasury departments DON'T have precious metals!! They just don't, ok???!!!
You're an idiot if you cannot even google the gold and silver reserves of world governments and banking conglomerates.

>All of this extreme volatility.

Why is it not dumping? Has the gas run out? Is this the bottom?

>>55832430
they stack gold, not your schizo silver rock

>>55832201
Based fellow penny stacker

>55832468
>he can't google "silver reserves by country"
not sure if stacklet cope or troll

>>55832372
They have to fill their vaults ASAP before BRICS shows how much they have. If BRICS gets up and running there will be a call for an audit on the US reserve to see if it's even competitive. Every time it dips they slurp like crazy. I imagine this is probably the last time we'll see PM's around this price point. I'm not expecting anything crazy but probably $50 silver in 2025 is my guess.

>>55832512
Someone say pennies???

>>55829476
This person does not know what they are talking about. The baking soda/aluminum foil method is electrochemical. Totally non-abrasive. Also no normal person cares if junk silver has been cleaned. It is called junk because he has only bullion value.

>>55830812
Three years? You should expand your perspective.

>>55831278
Nice handful.

>>55832071
Ebay. But be careful. Buy from reputable dealers. Some Japanese silver is faked.

>>55832468
I think JPM has a pretty good silver stack.

Any time silver is cheap I feel like its pointless to buy more
Then it goes to $26 and I fomo in
Why do I do this?

>>55827366
disgusting
>>55827605
anonymity obviously. and I don't think for 1 minute everyone here doesn't have something to be ashamed of.
>>55830223
stop, you straights invented that kink but ur selectively chose to forget seeing it until trannies did it. not all of us troonies are faggots.
>>55827826
based

>>55832932
They're going to be one of the only banks to survive the next decade.

Guys why are there trannies here?

Today’s reading.
Also, I’m going to try the boiling water + baking soda + foil method today on some old canadian junk silver. I will let you know how it works out.
>>55832998
He seems to have gone away for the tome being, inshallah.

>>55832936
Just buy now you stupid faggot.
I bought last week when we were still hovering above $23 and l thought that was stupid low.
Little did l know that we were going to go this low into the $22's and now l caught the falling knife.
I literally could have saved $50 on a $1000 purchase and now lm contemplating buying again to get my DCA back down.

Why is there no one making cool rounds that look like pirate gold, or el dorado gold, or knights gold, etc?

>>55833027
Here is the “before” shot. Very dirty.

Something like this

When accounting for how many ounces of silver you have how to you add your junk to the amount? I have 170 hard ounces but also a sack of dimes, quarters, walking liberties and Peace dollars and just assume I'm at about 200oz

>>55833092
>http://coinapps.com/silver/coin/calculator/
Alternatively you can count junk silver by the face value.
>>55832936
Why the fuck are you trying to time one of the least volatile assets of all time just DCA

>>55832936
The BRICS summit is eight days away. The dumping is probably to do with making sure the metal markets don't get an unexpected jolt like the nickel market did when Russia invaded Ukraine.

>>55832201
Nice pic.

>>55832949
>I don't think for 1 minute everyone here doesn't have something to be ashamed of.
Je ne regrette rien!
>>55824076
>>the math
>Was done using picrel. Also refining at home is always an option although not really worth it for coins ever.
Wait? What?>the math
Was done using picrel. Also refining at home is always an option although not really worth it for coins ever.
Let's say you've got a pre97 10DM coin. It's 15.5g of 625Ag (or 9.7g silver content). And I sell it for melt @ the current price of 0.43€/g. So I get 5.7€ for it. But current lowest price to buy the coin is 6.7€. So I lost 15%. Granted, this is better than loosing 19% when I buy 999 and sell that for melt, but it's not the free money you make it sound like, especially when you generally can sell it for a lower spread (though ironically, the first buyback price for said 10DM I found was lower than melt (by 20 cents, but still).
OR does that calcualation fo yours include home refining? I doubt that this is feasible (both from a price and practicability standpoint, but I'd love to be corrected).

>>55833119
Nice, thanks anon

Silver sisters the price went down 7¢ we're not going to WAGMI it's truly over for us.

>>55833220
silver sisters.....

>>55833220
>silver is down, it's over!

Keep it dumping. I've been slurping all month.

>>55833258
no 10oz asahi's?

>>55831958
Look in the last thread, i posted two gold Pokemon artifacts.

>>55832201
Dude, i have 50 silver Britannias in the mail, 25 with the dude, 25 with the dudette. Also 25 silver Maple Leafs with the dudette.

Do we know when they will release their first dude Maples?

>>55833252
Not liek dis... not liek dis...

>>55833258
You like slurping dumps? (^:

>>55833271
Just one

>>55833088
Here are the same two coins after sitting in the boiling water baking soda mix. Nothing abrasive has happened and I didn’t even wipe them off with my fingers or anything. There is still some baking soda on them so I’m going to put them back in for another 20 minutes or so

I came into some numismatics, (mostly sixpence from the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries). I'm interested in converting them into modern silver to focus on weight, since I don't really give a shit about the Brits. What would you guys suggest? Trading them at an LCS? Trying to find a private buyer for them separately? Shilling them online? Open to suggestions.

>>55832542
If we would have $50 by 2025 we would have higher prices now.
Fact is, we don't know. You least of all: thinking you know, rationalizing you know. Both is cope.
Fact is, if it would be higher for absolute sure, the market would price it in now.

>>55832998
Fuckers are everywhere.

>>55833075
Picrel is my short journey.

>>55833164
>BRICS summit

>>55833431
Ebay, single auctions, consider that you have to pay Ebay some cut. Don't do auctions, just name your price and have them listed forever or until some sucker buys.

>>55833431
That's pretty niche so it sounds like any American-centric LCS would offer little.
eBay too would not find many buyers but it's at least an option.
Maybe try some forums online? Sounds like something r/coinsales would eat up

>>55833088
>>55833361
Noice.

>>55833182
I'm not claiming it's free money or even some kind of arbitrage opportunity or anything. I'm just saying that other than the dead weight there is no disadvantage to buying 625 silver given the price is as close to spot as it is. Refining at home might be a bit much but some here do it. It's not that hard, just involves some nasty chemicals, mostly requires nitric acid and gives off toxic fumes. It's not worth it either way because the original coins sell for more than the refined silver content but if you hate copper it's not too difficult if you can read.
tl;dr it's cheap to buy and if you were to sell spread is not worse or maybe even better than bullion

Is a sigma metallics verifier worth it?

>>55833540
Only if you have bars. Coins are very easy to verify by just sound.

>>55833454
Thanks anon. Here’s their final state after another soak, run under cold water, and light drying. The 50c piece turned out spectacularly.

>>55833588
Describe your method then.
Do you have any idea what the brown stuff on the smaller one is? But regardless, her crown is entirely visible now. It's better.

Now what? WD40 to keep it from tarnishing?

>>55833588
tbdesu I would diagnose the 50 cent as cleaned at this point. the other one still looks alrightish

>>55833656
Method was to line a small bowl with foil, shiny side up. I laid about a tablespoon of baking soda on the foil, placed the coin, then covered the coin with another two or so tablespoons. I used a kettle to get water really hot, then poured it in. I left it for ten minutes, rinsed each coin off with cold water, then patted dry. I haven’t a clue what the stain is. It shows up as more of a reddish pinkish colour to the naked eye.
>>55833683
Ironically that 50c piece was in for half the time of the other, and in both cases I made sure not to do any abrasive movement whatsoever. That said 1944 half dollars aren’t worth anything, numismatically speaking.

>>55833761
The other would fool me because there's still crud on it, but the 50c looks unnaturally clean for its level of wear and completely lacks mint luster. Especially referring to the weak spot on the crown and the way light is unnaturally caught and reflected around the legend.

how much do you think this 1859 US half dollar is worth. I'm thinking $300ish

>>55832236
>>55833177
Thank you thank you

>>55832512
Oh neat. Not sure they'll ever be worth much but I still enjoy stacking them anyway.

>>55833278
Those tubes in the back are 50 Britannias with the dude. I'd get more but the silver tax makes it so off-putting...

>>55833473
I heard that anything less than 90% purity is significantly harder to smelt. but i never tried it myself so don't know for sure. either way I hate shit like war nickels, that's for sure.

>>55833825
I'm thinking $150ish unless I'm missing something. Definitely under $175. If it's SF mint a bit more. picrel was $135

>>55833761
not all tarnish is created equal. sometimes it forms in a way that's hard to clean off, sometimes it's easy. it's an organic natural process.

>>55833905
yeah you may be right. I've been thinking about sending it to NGC for grading. could be a fun little thing to do

>>55833928
You would be eating up at least 30% of the value with grading costs. I really wouldn't be surprised if it came back as a details coin. Bit of an odd color. Seated coins are a real tossup for me.

>>55833588
Nice job! But baking soda only removes actual tarnish, not other kinds of staining.

>>55833796
>the way light is unnaturally caught and reflected around the legend.
That also may be that I had it under direct light. It's far duller than that to the eye, but I also appreciate your input.

>>55833997
well the idea is people pay more for slabbed coins, especially older collectible coins that people worry are fake.

>>55834049
Not necessarily. I was referring to prices of raw 1859 seated halved on eBay for my estimate. Still take my advice for seated coins with a grain of salt because that thing could be anywhere from high VF to low AU.

>>55834037
The fact that it's a dull sort of shiny isn't a good thing. Very characteristic of cleaned coins. A coin with natural luster will diffuse the light evenly across the coin, even under direct light.

Here are two coins under a flashlight beam, one natural one cleaned. Even if yours doesn't have the scratches of the cleaned one it still has that dull look that the lustrous one doesn't have.

>>55834134
Cool

>>55833588
>the visible hairline scratch marks on the 50 cent

>>55833540
Just find an lcs that's got one, most do. Odds are they'll let you use it because it brings people into the store. You're probably not gonna be testing a shit ton of things, unless you're buying fuckloads.

>>55834256
This is another thing with removing tarnish. It might reveal marks that were previously obscured even if you're not trying to create new scratches

>>55834285
yeah very good point
i noticed the unsightly scratches too

i'm being to get demoralized by the lack of luster bomb rms being offered

>>55832201
Nice stack :)

>>55832998
It’s a demoralization campaign. Nobody wants to be associated with trannies (see bud light), so funny hats LARP as trannies to make the place cringe.

I held up a magnet to some of my silver (a handheld magnet, I don't have the kind in OP video) and felt a little bit of force from it, barely noticeable. Is that normal? Do I need a stronger magnet like in the linked video to know anything for sure? I tried selling a couple bars today but the guy at the shop tested it with a similar handheld magnet and told me it was fake.

The only way to end the fed is to stop playing the game. Convert your federal reserve notes into real money (gold / silver / honey etc etc). The fed controls the entire digital world. Once enough people stop playing the board gets flipped.

>>55834943
Yes, what you feel are breaking forces only. You want a neodymium magnet. Take apart an old hard disc.

>>55834943
what was the size of the silver?
You'll feel a little bit of resistance, but not enough that it'll stop the magnet from sliding.

>>55834993
a 10oz and 5oz bar.
>>55834980
I figured that would be the case. I should punch that faggot shopkeep for making me go full schizo over my silver

Why isn't anyone talking about BRICS?

>>55835054
>CTRL+F BRICS
>7 results
>WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT BRICS?
we are.

>>55835054
Are you blind.

>>55835054
>BRICS
Because nobody cares. BRICS takes over, I buy silver. BRICS fails miserably, I buy silver. Aliens invade, I buy silver. Did it last week. Gonna do it this week. Repeat.

>>55835076
Yeah, but it should be a pretty big deal, shouldn't it?
Remember back in March when everybody on the board started to lose their shit over SVB? Crazy times.

>>55835094
I heard the aliens only want gold to spray into their atmosphere.

>>55835130
Would explain where all the Gold is going that the US Military stole in the first days of every Country they've invaded the last 50 years.

>Unrelated
Argentine Peso shitting the bed today compared to Gold.

>>55835054
>Why isn't anyone talking about BRICS?
BRICS is a joke, 5 shithole countries that hate eachother and have no entrepreneurial economy in the slightest

of all the things that could bring down our kiked nation, it will never be BRICS

>>55835094
Lizard is sitting on gold however.

>>55835116
Third worlders will get excited, then they will calm down again. They will continue to blame the US and Europe for all their problems and they will continue to fail.
What did you think would happen?

>>55835247
Ah, the BRICS fud appears with insults instead of analysis.

The combined GDP of the BRICS is now about equal to the G7 and the strong trend lines shows BRICS getting stronger while G7 falls behind. The BRICS also have substantial natural resources, land, labor, and gold.

And while they may hate each other, they - and the rest of the world - hate the USA more and will do their best to kick it under the bus.

That they do not trust each other merely makes the better case for a gold-backed currency. Otherwise they will not be able to control inflation. With gold you don't need to trust.

Finally, a BRICS alternative to the LME monopoly will undermine the phony Western metals market.

The American empire and monetary scam is coming to an end and America has only itself to blame.

>>55823425
What is happening with PMs today? We are having a lot more glowies coming out of the woodworks with a lot of fud in the last days. Is something big about to happen?

>>55835416
the FUD machine has been ramped up for awhile
paying some bots and pajeets pennies to fuck up online discussions is nothing to them. they do it a lot. doesn't mean moon is around the corner but we're getting close

>>55835247
>BRICS has like, no entrepreneurial economy
such ameriburger cope kek
you're not special. other countries can "innovate" too, retard

should i? thinking probably

>>55835319
>Finally, a BRICS alternative to the LME monopoly will undermine the phony Western metals market.
this
at the end of the day, every stacker should welcome with open arms some competition to the fucking US fiat dollar. there is no logical reason to oppose it, only emotional "ra ra america great ra ra" nonsense.

>>55835319
>The American empire and monetary scam is coming to an end
Sure kid

>>55835416
>Is something big about to happen?

Not sure but Michael Burry has gone full Burry by betting nearly everything of his funds assets on the stock markets going down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ve7jN7P1B8&ab_channel=NobodySpecialFinance

>>55835520
Name 5 innovations that we all use daily that don't come from the US or Europe.
Protip, begging for food and destroying your environment isn't one of them.

>>55835646
>>55835695
Kys you larping kike.
>Hurrrr durrrr muh American imperialism.
Have you been living under a fuckin rock or something for 50 years? USD isn't worth jack shit anymore, bud.

Most recent purchase. First libertad. Very cozy.

Big dick energy.

>>55835646
Explain how the US survives without cutting spending, raising taxes, and paying down the debt (which would cause massive problems itself)

>>55835658
oh shit

>>55835829
Anon...how much was the premium you paid for a fucking proof libertad

>>55835658
2008 was the real estate bubble
2023 is the everything bubble

>>55835829
what size libertad is that?

>>55835955
1/10 Oz. Wanted to see if liked them before buying more. I usually just stack maples.

>>55835922
Probably more than is justifiable. But let me ask if you think it’s appropriate to store my PMs in this old wood tinder box?

>>55835980
did it come with the capsule? looks pretty nice. i've been wanting to pick up a couple of the proof versions.

>>55835646
Such a powerful argument. I cower before the might of your intellect.

New bread, checked
>>55836077
>>55836077
>>55836077

>>55835980
>appropriate
YES

>>55835695
Nobody ever said America was not great in its day. What does it produce NOW? Because now and the near future is the topic of discussion.

>>55836097
mostly garbage for a nigger-filled world

>>55836066
It did, the premium likely covered it. I buy maples for the most part, but buy PMs with some premium every once in a while to have some fun.