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So much for that

I’m down $300 bros…

Second for I’m gay

I bought SOXS at $9.31

>>55677883
>>55677921
>get out now. unironically, this is the top
>this is the moment that the dollar trade has switched; the fundamentals behind the dollar falling just got crushed by ECB
>4605 SPX
>15,728 NQ
>Thursday, July 27 8:40am
>DXY then: 100.872
>DXY now: 102.355
I warned you. You didn’t listen. You never listen.
>inb4 “Just a coincidence!!”
>inb4 “The dollar doesn’t matter!!”
Lol. Ok. You should have listened, anon.
If we break above 4,605 again, rub my face in this post (as well as the first one)
Protip: You won’t be able to for several years

I HAVE
BOIL/KOLD (LIMIT ORDER)/UNG!!!
NEEEGAAARSSS

>>55732741
Economists are a joke. I follow el-Erian and his take on things is often "I don't understand why this is happening".

wtf, stocks can't go down

>>55732741
that sandnigger is the biggest most incorrect jew controlled shill since fucking Jim Cramer
market is fucked if he's saying it's okay, fr fr no cap ong

>>55732741
>trump asked his buddies to crash the market with no survivors when he gets indicted
heh, nothing personal kid

hope you enjoyed melting up for the entire year so far
but thats over now

>>55732741
Yeah I did feel like Biden kinda had a point to be pissed this happened during his watch because it’s basically creditors sending a message to both the democrats and republicans for continually pushing debt negotiations to closer and closer to the last minute in my opinion. A big nothing burger but at the same time “a butterfly flapping its wings can create storms on the other side of the planet” type shit.

And thus ends the great crude oil bull run of 2023. Also lumber is about to make new lows for the year

>>55732732
Love me bonds
Love me credit spreads on SPX
Love me credit spreads on /ZN
Simple as

This prop firm nigga is picking symbols with fucking scrabble tiles and $100k of his company's money
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLgrLIqNt0Y

>>55732815
its better than consciously trying to ever pick anything

now I dun tol' y'all
>stocks in the death zone
I reckon I dun did now
>credit tightening
yep just like I been sayin'
>CRE imploding
y'all don't do it
>consumer slowing
don't go n' git
>YCC tweaked
involved
>AI bubble popping
in all dat

Has anyone looked at CROX? Looks quite juicy around these prices, maybe in the high 90's.

>>55732804
I warned democrats that Trump losing was the best thing that could have happened because the economy was fucked long term and they laughed at me
I was not expecting the Jan 6 autism, but Trump still looks like a martyr to a chunk of the country instead of hitting less than 20 percent approval as the economy crashes under his watch

Holy shit, being a bear is fucking dope! 4/4 nailed every play. I know the next one will blow me up. Tap out. Yeee3
Also, any of you bulls know anything about UP? I have no idea why I own this piece of shit. Seems like a grim outlook.

>>55732761
rofl
I finally humor you with the wall of text that you've dreamed of (see >>55732470), and the best you can do is run and hide out in the next thread.

You. Have. No. Argument.

Oh cool a (((ratings agency))) owned by Hearst suddenly downgrades the US rating and then a representative from the agency goes on TV and references January 6th as part of the reason for the downgrade. Totally organic, nothing to see here folx

>only down 0.45% so far today

ELON GIVE ME BACK MY MONEY

The borrow rate for shorting shares of WING are 0.30%. Lol.

You don't listen.

>>55732775
fuck eeeeeet
just boughted *even moar*
SCARY FUCKIN' SHIT THO
ngl

LITERALLY just bought calls on RIOT before BTC shit the bed

At least I started my emergency savings fund.

>>55732853
I fucked up 3 trades today, I'm done

ill never recover from these past 2 days...

>>55732880
lol. Imagine getting paid to be short a company at >80x earnings, who's primary COGS contributor is about to skyrocket.

>climate scam
>EV scam
>AI scam
>LK99 scam

so whats the next tesla stock to scam taxpayer money from the latest YAS SCIENCE meme? I do want more official fake money.

>>55732732
You were warned you last week. Greedy bulls getting what they deserve.

lmao holy shit Bitcoin just took a FAAAAAAT dump

>>55732804
>big nothingburger
They see you becoming brazil 2.0 and act in advance. When I look for banks I care about their rating. That is a warning and it is grounded in reality cause the US is degenerately building up debt.

>>55732908
>who's primary COGS contributor is about to skyrocket.
WING's primary COGS contributor is about to skyrocket? Wdym? pls respond

>up 11% on the soxs
>still down 86% YTD on the portfolio
massive sufferings

>>55732858
I already told you that I wasn't going to respond to you anymore. >>55732305
I offered you multiple occasions to reply with your argument, you did not give it. >>55731971
Only after I told you that I would not respond to you anymore did you then present your argument.
>Look, see, 10 years from now it is bullish for stock prices!!
>You're just not looking long term! I am looking long term!!
You are relying upon past times where US growth was exploding higher, forcing yields higher. This is not the situation we are in. Yields going up for 'the economy is hot!' reasons is bullish - that the economy is growing so rapidly, that investors demand a higher yield to be compensated for locking their money up. Yields going up due to investors demanding a higher return relative to inflation is not bullish. We are in the latter case.
Again, I'm not going to respond you to anymore, but since you insisted, I did.

>>55732926
Oh sorry, I was thinking of TSLA

I told myself I’d wait for a day when spy was at least -1% before buying. But is this credit news for real? I feel like enough people will FOMO into the dip

>>55732925
Fitch just upgraded Brazil last month you mong. This is hopelessly transparent political maneuvering by a known media manipulator.

2 trendlines on the SPX. The first is clearly broken. The second may hold. There's still a ton of data tomorrow and Friday.

>>55732938
>>55732938
TALK TO ME ABOUT WINGSTOP's COGS VOLATILITY

mumus btfo

plunge protection team comin' in hot!

TODAY
IS GONNA BE THE DAY WHEN IT ALL COMES BACK TO YOU
BY NOW YOU SHOULDA SOMEHOW REALISED WHAT YOU GOTTA DO

>>55732956
Still up 140% for the year, wbu?

What's your excuse this time?

>>55732931
This webm is a perfect visual description of how I felt watching my TLT holding the past months

you're gunna LOVE what happens next

>>55732967
>doesn't take profit
>will continue to hold bags until lose money

>>55732949
The yellow line actually extends to the end of May low and was a well defined trendline.

I want circuit breakers. The sea of pink wojaks is comfy af.

>>55732973
how many times in history has pic rel happened?

Ngl qould be the funniest shit if we end the day flat

>>55732971
post the rest of the chart, it stopped looking like that forever ago
also technically the excuse is fitch is a bunch of jewish niggers who want to crash the world

>>55732971
Wow you really left off like 6 months huh

>>55732976
Bitch I'm going to be up 1000% and still holding because I'm not a shortsighted faggot speculator

>>55732984
double tops are common, but you never know beforehand if it's a double top or just a stepping stone to a new ath.

So what has been everybody's favorite part of Bidenomics?

>>55732989
No one seems to realize the significance of Fitch being owned by Hearst

>>55732972
buddy.. we warned you not to buy TLT at the end of May
>>55120561

someone get a photo of the guy who works at the NYSE blowing bubbles with gum RIGHT NOW!!!

Is it time to buy the dip?

>>55733008
I like the part where nobody but his owners can afford anything.

>>55732973
>WhaleWire

i have an hour and a half of interviews coming help

>>55732931
Based SOXS play. I fucked everything up, even though I was in on SOXS yesterday at $8.30
Sometimes you just gotta walk away from the market and let it do its thing

>>55733008
The sound track
>https://youtu.be/DCkJ5lGPqFs

>>55733012
lol, bought TLT for size today

If I go to sleep everything will be okay when I wake up, right?

I had two mega slim jim's in the "Hot AF" flavor yesterday and my asshole hurts a bunch

blease figs id dim abble

>>55733040
we'll see - you might have timed correctly, due to fear / flight to safety reasons
might get a lot of panic bond buying in the weeks / months to come

>>55733033
>yet another another /smg/ jobfag
wow
you can't find more jobqueers in a jobqueers general thread
be sure to put your best foot forward, dumbass

>>55733043
wen day is dark, alway rember happy day :)

>>55733055
based disabled anon

>>55733055
>jobfag
i genuinely enjoy learning and using my brain to make 6 figures
you can have my tax dollars to stay at home if you want, doesnt bother me

>>55733046
let me fuck it

>>55732936
>You are relying upon past times where US growth was exploding higher, forcing yields higher. This is not the situation we are in.
>This is not the situation we are in.
In other words, lets shift the goalposts to some imaginary future because the empirical evidence goes against your point.

Holy cope. After all that, after multiple hours spamming walls of text, all you can do is call me a retard (again), shift the goalposts (again).
And now that you know your position is completely unsalvageable, you come out with the ultimate cope
>I'm giving you the silent treatment. I win by default!
and then you keep replying anyway..

LMAO. This was great. Thanks. Always good to get some insight into the mind of an absolute schizoposter.

>>55732823
His whole point is that the entry doesn't matter; you long or short with the trend. The thing that really matters is position sizing and when to exit

just keep buying you fucking retards

>>55733088
lol no SP500 closes under 4500

>>55733062
>being extremely antisocial is a disability all of a sudden
>>55733071
Say hi to Dave and Janet for me, homo.
Don't forget to get them cards for their birthdays.

>>55733071
>i genuinely enjoy learning and using my brain to make 6 figures
Genuine question, are you going to learn anything from working at GS? I totally understand the 6 figures part

Shill me your $20 or less stocks in two sentences.

>>55733088
not until people are unemployed and getting thrown out on the street

SPY will close under 200 by the end of the year

That double bottom of 450 was beautiful. SEE YOU FAGS AT ALL TIME HIGHS

>>55733114
trade (clap) futures (clap) you (clap) fucking (clap) goof

>>55733086
well yeah duh
if things are going up go up with it
problem is were in a schizo market with no memory of the last 5 minutes, and options market consistently pricing volatility incorrectly week after week
this is a high cash do nothing market until we actually start to see things go back down to the moving averages

>>55732973
>over 20 Twenty fucking years
Lol

the bond rally has finally begun

>>55733088
is this the bargaining or the anger phase?

>>55732755
Soon you will break even.

>>55732944
Just because they upgraded brazil, doesn't mean you are becoming closer to them. In the end you will meet at the same rating :)

>>55733012
>buddy.. we warned you not to buy TLT at the end
I'm gonna wait until the double top on long end yields to buy more

>>55732092
>Marge: Where'd you get all the money?
>Grampa: The government. I didn't earn it, I don't need it, but if they miss one payment I'll raise hell.

>>55732804
Biden is a nigger and so are you, Sean.

>>55733114
PBR = divie heaven

>>55733105
definitely

>>55733085
Anon, I don't want to respond, and continue arguing with you, because it is shitting up the thread, and is annoying to other people in /smg/ to have two people argue back and forth for hours, rehashing the same points
We have already gone through the argument, you continue to insist that higher interest rates are bullish, that a stronger dollar is bullish. You're retarded.
YOU are the one who has been shifting goal posts this entire discussion. First
>higher yields are bullish
>stronger dollar is bullish
then
>higher yields are bullish...if they are higher for growth reasons!!
>stronger dollar is bullish...on a 10 year timeframe!!
Lmao.
>I win by default!
No, I "win" because you're retarded, and higher interest rates are not bullish for equities, and a stronger dollar is not bullish for equities. You're wrong. That's why I win.
>because the empirical evidence goes against your point.
Lmao. Provide this empirical evidence. Provide evidence that we are in a rapidly expanding economy, that warrants 5%+ interest rates.
Protip: You can't
Now you will object to this post with "Oh, you said you weren't going to respond, why are you still responding??"
You're a faggot who keeps demanding that I respond to you.
I will no longer listen to your demands. Enjoy sulking, alone.

My butthole hurts actually really bad ticker symbol GO for Grocery Outlet I got two mega slim jims for $1 each and they were the Hot AF flavor since im sure no other stores wanted that insanely hot flavor ticker symbol GO please help me i'm indian and supposed to be good with this stuff but my asshole is actually hurting s fucking hard i will never eat this insanely spicy dogshit again my addiction to slim jims must be contained to normal flavors

>>55732925
The treasury should just issue negative rate bonds and clean up the mess they made with the credit rating.

they are trying to start the covid shit again, I hope they get fucking lynched.

>>55733116
Hate to break it to you, but that's not happening under this administration chud.

>>55733175
who is "they?"

>>55733174
who would buy negative rate bonds lmao

>>55733139
day is just day one
go back and look at the charts in 2011
the music is about to stop and every long is going to rush the exits as the selling never.stops
spy to retest 2022 lows by eoy, qqq just goes straight to zero, no more time for computers and ai and all that nerd shit. agriculture takes over as the most important thing in human existence

>>55733185
Jews

>>55733196
the jews of my nation haven't mentioned it at all then

>>55733190
Banks when they're forced to by the government.

>>55733190
Literally all of Germany for many, many years
https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/german-key-yield-back-above-0-heres-what-it-means-2022-01-19/
>Bond markets have just passed a major milestone -- German 10-year yields have shot above 0% for the first time in nearly three years, potentially marking a return to more normal borrowing conditions in Europe.

>>55733190
congress could pass a law so that everybody has to buy some if they want access to the equities markets.

Okay, why is market red today? Is it just a general fear of overvaluation or did something actually happen like crappy inflation report?

>>55732732
>Markets
https://youtu.be/X-f4im0PeUQ

Man unless AMZN and Apple beats their earnings reports, its all gonna get so fucked this week.

>>55733213
downgraded to the nigger tier country that we are

>>55733185

So how big should my wagers be if I'm trading on a $40k account? Currently risk $1.5k per trade.

im seeing sketchy action
i think the cat bounce is over
or plunge protection is going to do a meme pump

>>55733232
Whatever you're comfortable with losing

NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER

Considering market turmoil even though inflation was defeated jpow should lower the rate to 3.5% overnight. Lets get ahead

>>55733232
nigger just go to a casino and bet it all on black, if you win put it all into indexes

I don't feel so good

>>55733235
You're double retarded for misspelling harbinger and also fucking up harbnigger

>>55733243
dudes got a nasty hemorrhoid

https://www.gmx.net/magazine/ratgeber/finanzen-verbraucher/rente-grosser-reform-rolle-aktien-38487534

It's so over. Now germany will goomble retirement savings. Sure it's not so they can pump the bags of politicians with public money.

Who’s buying? Is it shorts covering? I can see a recovery in 2-3 weeks for sure, but why would you slurp a dip that hasn’t even dupped?

>>55733252

>>55733253
its to trigger autists like you lol, easy
>>55733265
its the fed
literally janet yellen manually buying on her robinhood account screaming at her computer

>>55733114
UNG

>>55733139
Neither, it's the "none of you understand how to actually make money" phase.

Market crashing? Great time to buy.
Market doing great? Great time to buy.
market flat? Still a good time to buy.

it's really that simple but you niggers chimp out any time something goes down a single fucking percent. Shut the fuck up and buy. Today, tomorrow, forever.

>>55733211
I meant in the US. I know why they bought bunds in germany
>>55733211
never happen
>>55733208
banks arent "forced" to buy new issuances it just benefits them to hold gov bonds for many reasons

>>55733219
>it didn't have to be this way

the coin is being slurped my bastards

>>55733253
Well he said the market is going to go up or drop, so just i'm thinking this is about where we close today.

>>55733171
Slim Jim’s are all the byproducts of pigs, chickens and beef. If you’re a Hindu then you’re fucking up big time. You’re eating the worst parts of the cow, like cartridge, tripe and sphincter muscle. You’re going to hell, or whatever equally terrible place Hindus have imagined.

WTF FERRARI MISSED? GG

>>55733300
think the selling is gonna start again right about now

incoming!

>>55733291
Yeah I know but I'm not religious and neither is my family really, so I don't mind being a bad Hindu if it means I can eat Slim Jims. I would gladly burn down the Meenakshi Amman temple if it meant I could get a lifetime supply of Slim Jims. Just not the "Hot AF" Flavored ones because those will ruin your day.

What are your favorite stocks for selling covered calls?

>>55733327
SPY

>>55733300
Ferrari has to build Pickups now, to beat Ford as revenge for Le Mans.

>>55733171
Who's the milk breath now?

>>55733040
I just went into TMF as my last play of the day. We'll see if I fucked up by tomorrow morning kek

>>55733327
>worrying about that shit instead of buying BOIL

>>55733285
Just pause all medicare/medicaid/social security payments every other year. Boom, debt solved.

>>55733124
this was a signal
>>55733133
TLT gaps down, reflexive buying is clearly a change of character
>>55733145
chimpification

>>55733344
I'm regretting not buying some treasuries at the daily bottom, but I can't bring myself to chase here. I got burned by treasuries too many times. I nearly had a panic attack last October during that insane yield spike

>>55733285
>president that literally sold the country to china

>>55733168
>Provide this empirical evidence.
Sure. Pic related.
>Provide evidence that we are in a rapidly expanding economy, that warrants 5%+ interest rates
5% is not the real yield. We've been over this.

>Now you will object to this post with "Oh, you said you weren't going to respond, why are you still responding??"
It is true though. Not that I particularly care one way or another. Unfortunately I'm too incompetent to find TIPS yield on tradingview, but I assure you it's also at a decade high right now, sitting around the same 1.7% peak it's been stuck at since last October.
If anything, seeing this real yield decline would be bearish, as witnessed back in late March. A selloff in yields indicates risk off.

>Enjoy sulking, alone.
Trading has always been a solidary activity. When it comes down to it, all you can count on is yourself and your own decision making.
But there are also 60 other posters in this thread, most of whom are more capable of civil discussion and have interest in sharing tangible ideas.
If you like making money buy MANU.

>>55733352
Close. The plan is to keep all of those services alive until the boomers die then cancel them and pull the ladder up behind them. It's the one last "fuck you" from the boomers before they head out. I don't think even a super computer would be able to come up with a plan to perfectly screw over millennials better than boomers did.

>>55733348
I already hold UNG

>>55733364
How did he sell us to China?

>MCF Energy Secures Significant Concession Adjacent to Historic German Gas Discovery

>>55733384
>1x rather than 2x

>>55733219
>entire economy is predicated upon overvalued lying, grifting big tech “beating” earnings only for them to revise a year later to the real earnings in which people don’t care by then and will only look for the new fake earnings
Absolutely disgraceful, this is the modern economy. SQQQ should have pumped 10-20% not 5%. It’s always tqqq that pumps 10% every day based on big bullshit. The superconductor meme if real wont be practical for another decade and yet it will pump tech despite not a single big tech company pivoting to future tech for another 2-3 years.

>>55733327
AMD did me good in 2021, I was getting like 1-2k per month. Then I lost like 20-30k on it in 2022.

>>55733385
WTO let them out of the stone age

>>55733404
That’s because you got lucky at first and you have no clue about real fundamentals and technicals. People like me make the right call but lose because the market is rigged for Jews and people like you get lucky by leeching off the Jewish masters bullshit bull larp.

>>55733326
you should try the "chomp" meat sticks from trader joes, even better than slim jim

>APE

Time to SLURP

>>55733428
I regularly go to Trader Joes and have tried the Chomp sticks. They suck. Compared to Slim Jims. Slim Jims have this sharp, acidic taste. There's a lot of flavor.

Fuck Chomp meat sticks. They don't have any pork. Just beef.

>>55733428
You might want to let him know that as a prerequisite you have to be into dudes to shop at trader Joe's.

>>55733447
>They don't have any pork. Just beef.
What a s(o)y post.

>>55733447
ok you know what ranjeet fuck you
i can deal with the shitcoin scams but this is way over the fucking line

Is Morgan Stanley the only 'good' bank left?

just about the whole Robinhood Top 100 is lookin' mighty rough.

>>55733422
That's cool. I don't really care as long as I can make money.

which company will become the NVDA of superconductors? IBM because muh quantum?

I hope mumus get liquidated and flushed down the toilet badly. They’ve been talking mad shit these last few weeks. Stupid gamblers.

>>55733457
Fuck. Chomp. Meat. Sticks. They are 100% beef which is shit because there's not enough fat or flavor from the meat alone. Then the way they prepare the meat lends way less flavor. It's just a shit flavor compared to Slim Jims, which have this incredible vinegary, acidic, spicy sharpness.
>>55733456
>wanting a mix of beef and pork in a meat stick is s(o)y but wanting beef alone isn't
Okay then

>>55733497
jerky > meat stick (unless you get it directly from a butcher/processor)

>>55733496
We will still be here talking shit even if your big gay crash does come.

>>55733497
>>wanting a mix of beef and pork in a meat stick is s(o)y but wanting beef alone isn't
100% s(o)y post. Absolute faggot and you probably have worms in your anus and intestines. Pork is the goyslop of meat. Literal fat fuck probably. Beef is the only real meat around and similar like bison, elk, deer...

>>55733497
You know something CRBPajeet, this is actually a based opinion for once. Monster sized slim jims are second to none.

>>55733496
today was the top. its over for them
cant wait for the weeks of mumu seethe that's coming

>>55733465
An investment strategy predicated upon memes was a YUGE mistake.

>>55733520
Markets literally can't crash till September, so no this isn't the top. Markets also can't crash till interest rates peak, and we have at least 1 more hike.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>55733508
You sound like one of those Whole Foods granoa faggots. Meat sticks are for people who want to get things done. A meal in a stick. Jerky is for people who hike and eat trail mix

>>55733527
markets crash when america gets downgraded
you're witnessing the end.

>>55733526
however...

>>55733533
Meijer sells an 8 pack of jalapeno cheddar meat sticks for like $3.99. meanwhile 3 ounces of beef jerky costs $1000. I'll always take delicious meat sticks over jerky. Plus my teeth hurt the next day when I eat jerky

>>55733527
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JQS6H2AXdM

>>55733518
Humans have eaten pork for millennia because it is probably the most tasty meat on the planet. The best meat sticks have a concotion of beef for consistency and a bit of gaminess while using pork to impart fat and flavor. Are you Muslim or something?
>>55733519
I actually can't decide if i like Monster sized slim jims or the normal slim jims because the normal slim jims have more of a snap and aren't like a chorizo stick basically. My local GO (Grocery Outlet) sells the regular sized slim jims for $0.20 / stick sometimes and they all get sold off within a day or three ofc

>>55733555
Yeah, not only do meat sticks have way more flavor and a better consistency that doesn't fuck your teeth by putting little chunks in the crevices of your teeth, but it doesn't cost 500 gorillion for one packet

i'm gonna squeeze so many bobos

I'm assuming puts on everything earnings today

>>55733513

>>55733527
Realistically October will be the end of it all

>>55733560
If I buy the normal ones I have to peel them because it's too much casing for the meat. The monster ones are the perfect balance.

>>55733527
>Mumus now expect another hike instead of rate cuts that they were expecting for this year and are pushing forward with every new hike

>>55733560
No I’m not a brown terrorist, and pork isn’t tasty, that’s the worms talking. Pork is the meat with least amount of flavour in combination with other ingredients. It also has the least flavour profile compared to other meats when you just salt it. So you are a literal faggot and poor and have shit taste. You love goyslop

I'm never selling, I will continue to accumulate.

I've regretted selling 90% of the time, I've learned my lesson time and time again.

>>55733613
>sold in October 2022

>>55733603
>I have to peel them because it's too much casing for the meat.
Bit autistic 2bh

>>55733613
buy the dip bro, diamond hands!!!

>>55733555
If you make your own beef jerky it only costs like $50 an ounce.

Oh no....not my red day!

>>55733404
>I was getting like 1-2k per month. Then I lost like 20-30k on it
Pretty typical outcome of selling covered calls, sadly. Your money disappears right as you should be buying the dip.

is there any hope for people with sub-10k savings?

>>55733634
My dude work at mcdonalds for 2 months instead

>>55733649
Stop posting this mordovian slut.

>>55733649
Just keep saving more? Anything you save should be sent to the market to invest it, regardless of how its doing.

>>55733612
Sir this is a goyslop general. You can take your shit opinions and shit taste to the boiled chicken and brown rice general over at /fit/. Don't forget to jack off to other dudes while you're there, seeing as /fit/ is the gayest board on this website.

>>55733649
I would say that debtmaxxers are doing better than people with 10k in savings that depreciates 10% daily due to inflation.

>system thinks your message is spam

markets are pumping now

>>55733612
idk pork is pretty good you sound like a fag who read the nutrition label really close but are still fat asf

>>55733657
Honestly only started investing a year ago. This is me accumulating around $350 a month from about June 2022. Why am I gonna be a wagie at McDicks?

>>55733634
kick ass, BLESSED

>>55733675
savings are good right now, you actually gain money, not lose it
but gaining 5% still isn't enough to outpace losing 90% of your value per second to inflation

>>55733660
>gayest board on this website
sir you're confusing the fitness board for >>>/y/

>>55733658
no

>>55733682
I sold mine yesterday for 15.5 cents

>>55733612
>bacon isn’t tasty

>>55733634

>>55733697
/fit/ makes /y/ look like Don Frye

>>55733697
Nah, /fit/ is still gayer.

>>55733624
>>55733622

I bought the generation low last year, im up 50% - your going to have to do better than that to convince me to sell

>>55733714
Holy shit dude

12 noon was the bottom and now we head back up to ATHs

>>55733190
So you are in a treasury at a large institution. Where are you going to put your money? In a bank? What if the bank goes bust and you lose your deposit? What if you are a bank? Buying negative yielding bonds is still the least risky option for capital preservation for a large number of market participants.

>>55733714

>>55733714
wow. now that's what i call a poor investment!

>>55733714
I pray to God that you at least skimmed a couple 100k off the top to pay off debts and housing for the rest of your life.

>>55733695
Yeah I have 250k in a HYSA @ 4.15%, 140K from the sale of the house last summer and 110k from degenerate gambling in the market. Also 34k in checking from a recent profit taking.55k in my broker but sold 80% of the 55k I had in the market with 8k left in.

I don't like this market.

Alright you gays tell me what your Hail Mary is. You’re riskiest play

>>55733714
Damn

>>55733714
Good fucking god.

>>55733758
>Where are you going to put your money?
If my only option was zero/negative yield I'd just put my wealth in another country, probably. I'm shorting the yen right now for similar reasons.

>>55733714
Christ that's worse than clftranny

>>55733786
I am indeed the riskiest play.
>tweaks nipples

>>55733714

>>55733786
>tell me what your Hail Mary is. You’re riskiest play
To me, the biggest "Hail Mary" would be to be staying long equities, without taking profits, without hedging or investing in more defensives - no matter what AAPL/AMZN earnings are (would not be surprised to see a relief rally due to their earnings later)
To stay long equities going into this Fall is the riskiest play you can make

>>55733714

>>55733714
>2 million dollars in a towel company
Please tell me you stole this from reddit.

>>55733782
>the amount of money that cash could have made in the shit and piss 500 ytd.

Are you a dense boomer? I keep so little cash desu, only like 70k cash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk1A4LV5WNg

>>55732732
New Jeanna video dropped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKHkYinx8ho

>>55733801
>>55733810
get a load of these gays

>>55733815
It's definitely from there. It takes a special combination of retardation to acquire $2 million only to lose it all buying stock in a brick and mortar store that entirely consists of shit nobody needs in one of the worst economies in history.

>>55733815
of course he did, /smg/ doesnt use rh.

>>55733832
I only use RH. WeBull shitskins and Fidelity nerds can kick rocks.

>>55733825

>>55733845
I'll kick your rocks faggot

>>55733832
I use Robinhood. That 4.9%apy is great

>>55733825
investors aren't concerned? they will be

>>55733612
insane opinion from an unhinged man

AMDbros I don't feel so good
>up AH
>ate shit at open

>>55732741
They recognize the patterns of slow descent into turd worldism, moohameed

>>55733758
youre missing that the regulations actually force them to buy that shit.
anyway there is a nonzero amount of foreign debt youre allowed to hold

>>55733786
BOIL

>>55732741
the desperation is palpable
moving averages broke today

>>55733772
>implying this is me

>>55733815
Literally threw the towel

>>55733883
>American politicians shorting their own economy

>>55733863
Bro they do not have the projections. NVDA is just ahead in technology and AMD is a powerful consumer brand that won't catch the first AI cycle.

I had AMD and NVDA until I finally let go.of AMD. Why hold a lesser company even if it is good?

>>55733883
they short america through their policy, why not also actually short it in the financial markets? i'm thinking based

>>55733893
Good call. This is what wsb did lmao

>switched to SQQQ
Wish me luck bros

>>55733883
>Going short right on the cusp of the room temperature semiconductor/AI revolution

>>55733883
To the surprise of nobody. Of course they're shorting the US. It's genuinely baffling how people can look at our national debt and think "yeah we'll find a way out of this". This is the death of an empire unfolding right before our eyes. The politicians know even more than we do.

>>55733893
nvda needs to have revenue bro
their revenue has been trending down in the last several quarters, not up, lmao
you got swindled by the ai jew

>>55733883
>PSQ
pussy

look at SPY fall

>>55733810
>To stay long equities going into this Fall is the riskiest play you can make
Not really. Even if you do lose money, it'll just bounce again to new higher highs in 2024-2025 as inflation continues to erode the value of the US dollar.

Shorting is a much bigger risk. Even hedging risks receiving no compensation for premiums paid as markets march ever higher.

STOP FUCKING SELLING YOU PUSSIES

>>55733893
AMD is a mile off of its ATH when the whole Xilinx merger was going on, feels like there's still a lot of buying to be done in this range

>>55733883
Someone check Pelosi's portfolio

What are we snorting bros?

>>55733931
>it'll bounce again
perhaps - and perhaps also instead of by 2024-2025 it could be similar to a 90s situation for Japan, or a 2000's situation for the US, where someone takes 10 years to break even
but I do agree that a bounce is more likely
I don't think anons have to be short to take advantage of a future dip. They can be taking profits, hedging, and/or allocating more in cash to take advantage of the future sales

>>55733883
>but the pain trade is stocks go higher and everyone gets rich!!!
I still can't believe this was the dominant narrative this year, that stocks going up everyday was somehow the pain trade for the majority of investors.
The pain trade is stocks go down, you buy the dip, and stocks keep going down. Then the Fed starts QE and it doesn't even help, it just makes things worse and leads to a housing market collapse. Then we get full on market panic as people realize that record government stimulus + QE still isn't enough to stop a recession. That's the pain trade and insiders will take full advantage of it

>>55733914
>Going short right on the cusp of the room temperature semiconductor/AI revolution
If by "cusp" you mean another hundred years. Just like mass produced graphene is always right on the cusp.

>>55733934
no

BOIL BURNIN' LOVE
ELVIS ANIME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx_SNvHgXSA

>>55733934
shan't

>>55733958
t. Ian

>>55733883
Would this be considered insider trading? How are government higher ups not privy to what goes on in the market and can actively make plays for the most profit?

>>55733914
This just tells me it will be a dotcom bubble repeat instead of a Great Recession repeat. Except Powell raised rates hard prior unlike Greenspan the jew.

>>55733934
No, sell so the boomers have to liquidate.

>>55733912
>today's return

>>55733929
Apology for poor English.
When were you when SPY dies?
>I was in office eating bugs when phone ring.
>"SPY is kill"
>"no"

>>55733957
its a bear market rally, and the media tells people to ignore the downgrade. the soft landing narrative is getting pushed more and more
were at the top. that's just how this works
it's how it's always worked
the selling is going to get worse after todays slurp shows to be yet another failure

>>55732850
Trump will still lose in 2024 because Arizona and Georgia have turned blue from demographic changes (spics, Californians, nigs and educated white voters).

>>55733983
>>55733985
please use trips so i can filter you more permanent. thank you

>>55733962

You're laughing? Boomers are losing their pensions, and youre laughing?!

Also: FUEL OIL WILL NEVER BE UNDER 3$ AGAIN

>>55733972
Of course it's insider trading, but politicians are above the law so they can do whatever they want. Just like lobbying is allowed. It's literally bribery. But it also could be a head fake. Pelosi does it from time to time so she can say "see I don't always get it right"

>>55733912
gambling faggots
why is it always robinhood

>>55732813
I will fuck OXY with puts until my penis hurts

>>55733994
So what is stopping everyone and their mother to just watch what they do and then immediately follow suit if there is a guarantee it will work in their favor?

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH IT KEEPS FALLING

>>55733958
>mass produced graphene is always right on the cusp.
But that's already happening?

>>55733990
i'm sorry that you can't approach financial market discussion with an open mind
unfortunately, emotional types like you are the ones that get victimized by all of this
i feel bad for you and good luck

>>55733689
5’11 and you?

>>55734002
They have to report what they do but not until like 45 days after. So you don't know what Pelosi is doing, only what she already did.

>>55732741
he is paid to say things
almost should be taken as seriously as Cramer

>>55733990
Shut up reddit! Stick your filters up your ass!

>>55733958
>Hexagons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thOifuHs6eY

>>55732741
yes, let's all listen to mohamed. im sure he has all of the white man's best interests at heart.

>>55733992
sucks, I tried to tell my parents that I wouldn't even have a pension by the time I grow old and they laughed, wellll... hopefully they listened to me even a little bit, they probably didn't though, cause they are BOOMERS after all

>>55733990
>filters
you must be one of those liberals who hate free speech and want to censor everything.

>>55733994
I think lobbying is actually worse than shorting. With a short you aren't actively manipulating the economy, you are just profiting off of it, assuming you aren't actively damaging the economy through your political power.

Lobby bullshit is literal bribery.

oh no im down 1%, now im only up 49% YTD, whatever will I do :<

Seriously though, I hope this market fucking TANKS TO THE GROUND because im like 80% cash and im ready to triple my networth this year

>>55734024
its honestly unreal what a scam this country is, and how everyone is just OK with it

>>55732755
dude thats the sell price
seems like the worst already passed

>>55734022
5'12 and 369 (I love cheeseburgers)

>>55734042
>not filtering baggie
ngmi

active shooter in the senate

I’m so pissed. I took a 1.2k loss on CVNA calls after being shaken out at open but if I just held I would be up 1500…. FUCK

>>55734090
markets gonna end the day mooning on the good news

AMD CHADS. WERE SO BACK. YOU SLURPED RIGHT

>>55734090

>>55733883
>July 13th
This was after a 29 bps drop in the 10 year over four days, but also the final day of the move.

>>55732732
when was that op last updated
is it good advice?

>>55734090
dems making another play on our guns?

well this is it, hope no one got punked out and sold or didn't buy more

Ok since this is obviously recovering tomorrow what are some good techslurps

This is unironically a nothingburger and the dip will be slurped but I'm gonna ride this downtrend balls deep in SQQQ
Hopefully apple won't do too well, I wanna see it SQQQ reach 20+ before I dip and paint myself as a bull again
Fuck bears and fuck bulls. The only way to survive in this dogshit market is to become a chameleon.

>>55734090
rolling for false flag

tik tok jews

My portfolio is recovering

>>55734135
>refuse to ban guns
>gets shot
can't say i didn't see it coming

>>55734096
>>55734090
What's a passive shooter?

>>55734173
sentry in tf2

>>55733917
You need to open the revenue and look at WHAT is down and what is UP, dude. Looking at revenue as just a big number is the smoothest brain move I can ever imagine.

>>55734158
bullish or bearish?

Does anyone know where after hours volume comes from? Hedge funds?Foreign institutions?

>>55734184
why even reply to me if you actually say nothing
you mustve looked at the numbers and said, "damn, this guy's right. oh well ai is the future this guys an idiot"
lol

>>55734173
some one like steph curry, doesn't really drive his way to the basket and passively shoots from behind the 3 point line.

someone please tell me why'd you by bonds at negative yields
tips bonds used to guarantee negative yields
fucking why

>>55734107
Heh
I understood that reference

what's the safest large cap portfolio right now? hard mode: no NVDA

>>55734210
SPY

>>55734199
Tax write off?

>>55734169
>bans guns in spaces
>active shooters seek these spaces because they wont get shot
100% of the time, it works every time.

>cant trade atm
>broke asf
>come to /smg/
>reminded of financial situation
>watching stocks in my watchlist only gain value
>one of them quadrupled in value over the last 5 days
life is pain

>>55734158
bullish, they're going to have to give us a stimmy check to calm us down

>>55734166
kick ass, BLESSED

>>55734227
it's not all about the money bud! I just really like the colours green and red, like... Oh its red today!! teheheheeee, oh my god its green aHHHHHhahaha!! you gotta be in a relationship with the colors

looks the selling resumes
enjoy your 5% down day tomorrow.

>>55732972
>buying TLT in a rising interest rates environment
Why, anon?
Just WHY?

>>55734091
Damn I would have been up over 2k now instead I took a fucking 1.2k loss I feel like such a fucking clown

>>55733832
I...UH.....

>I lose money
>post mumus
>I make money
>post bobos

>>55733942
Past performance is not indicative of future returns bro.

>>55734090
Digits and Fetterman smashes him to a pulp

>>55734199
TIPS were at negative real yield, which is obviously still pretty stupid but they price against other bond which at the time also had negative real yields except also no inflation protection.
You could compare TIPS to other inflation hedges like gold or bitcoin, but in the end it's a similar trade.

>>55734255
imagine thinking we get another hike!

>>55733832
I do, gold pays for itself

oh no SPY going sub 450

>>55734280
you haven't even seen the fear set in yet
its gonna take a few days of this before people really get the message: the market will never go up even a cent ever again

>Bobo's get a hail mary downgrade from Fitch
>SPY doesn't even go below 450
>They're still buying puts and forecasting a crash
lmao this is the bottom for this quarter.

>>55734241
dude im broke
it IS all about the money

>>55734255
Fed controls the short end anon, not the long end. TLT is going back to $150 but it's not easy to time. Can't wait too long to jump in or you'll miss the ride

The last /smg/, I hope you're happy bobos

SPY 449.94

>>55734298
Finally, we can be freed from this

>>55734298
We are entering the age of /bmg/. Bear Market General.

>>55734287
well this aged well
>>55734294
opened first tranche today!

>>55734305
back above 450, but I guess bobo can have is 6 cent gains. congrats on the victory bobo!

>>55734287
Fitch says we have to wait until 4q this year for the recession to start going. Imagine buying RIGHT FUCKING NOW.

>>55734309
I think you mean BOIL MARKET GENERAL

>>55734298
Did I do that??

Ok I am SLIGHTLY worried, but im still not selling

>>55734323
Fitch is going to be a pariah of credit raters after this attention grabbing nonsense, January 6th as a reason for a downgrade? that was 2 and a half years ago. Nothing they've said as a reason for the downgrade was not factored and priced in. Nothing they say matters.

>>55734323
mumu isnt even looking at the yield curve starting to steepen
and if they do they think that means stocks will go up too lol

>>55734290
dude, me too....

>>55734192
No you're literally a moron. Simple as nigger.

FUCKING BAKE ALREADY!!!!!

>>55734348
no you

>>55734309
Bond market general

>>55734290
Based

>>55734361
Look at nvda Financials and see immediately the only falls are in cyclical industries with their main targets over the last 2yrs showing consistent strong growth.

Baking...

>>55734374
>n8jap
The captcha knows

>>55734338
https://www.fitchratings.com/research/sovereigns/fitch-downgrades-united-states-long-term-ratings-to-aa-from-aaa-outlook-stable-01-08-2023
>Ctrl+f "January 6"
>0 results
Yeah... nah. Look at the numbers man, sure some stooge will try to blame it on j 6, but our numbers are still fucked at the moment.

Imagine if the final post count is where SPY will end this year.

>>55734298
>I hope you're happy bobos
Don't quit now mumu, weve only begun.

>>55734398
Check these dubs

the market, it do a little crasherino

Where's that faggot from this morning who said that the market was going to be green. I want to laugh at him.

theres no way the market could ever be green on a black swan day like a fitch downgrade
what an absolute buffoon!

>>55734389
>Downgraded almost entirely because of the national debt retardation from the past 20 years
Even Clinton was allowed to "reduce" the deficit, greedy fucks can't handle us spending even 1% less on defense and gibs

Ah man, I sold at 0.18, did I fuck up?

Sold all my calls and bought SQQQ, bobo is right credit ratings do matter

>>55734227
There’s always opportunities

Lets see if we can keep dumping into AH, what are the predictions my /smg/gers?

>>55734498
It's not even the defense spending or gibs that are the problem. It's these fucking subsidies for retarded shit like off shore windfarms,and solar panels while you got guys like Hunter Biden not even paying their fair share.

>>55733043
>go to bed
>wake up
>"US defaults on debt"
>tfw

>>55733114
that's a man

I JUST BOUGHT PUTS AND NOW THE MARKET IS HEALING AGAIN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>55734277
>>55734294
topcope

Look guys, I know you guys think I'm always wrong, but here's the thing, the boomers don't even know about the credit downgrade thing because they won't find out until 6pm tonight when they watch special report with bret baier. these are the same boomers who remember what happened last time this happened, and they will all be marching down to their guy's office tomorrow to pull everything out. tomorrow is when the real sell off happens, and you're still early if you've got puts open.