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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-02/it-s-getting-a-lot-harder-to-chase-the-stock-rally-from-here-on
https://archive.. ph/6urSm
It’s Getting a Lot Harder to Chase the Stock Rally From Here On
Equities are disconnecting from worsening economic backdrop
Profit warnings, rising rates deal a blow to soft-landing bets
Global equities have decoupled from a worsening economic backdrop after rising about 13% in 2023, prompting warnings from some of the world’s top money managers that chasing the rally from here on is a risky move. Growing corporate profit warnings are also driving home the message.
“Resilience now is sowing the seeds for fragility down the line,” said Andrew McCaffery, global chief investment officer at Fidelity International. “The ‘best-flagged recession in history’ still isn’t upon us. But that recession will come when the lagged effects of policies eventually take hold.”
Almost 99% respondents in a Deutsche Bank AG survey of 400 market professionals said higher rates will likely lead to more global “accidents,” with most of them expecting the moves to bring fresh strain to financial markets.

Where’s the funny image? Buy oil.

Reminder that crypto stocks should be part of your trading strategy while BTC is in a bullrun

>>55465789
Good bot

The market is going to start falling this week, right?

>>55465811
I dont buy tulips

Democratsisters how do we promote younger democrats to pick up after biden? Hes looking weak for 2024 and the economy has been recovering stronger then ever in 2023. I don't want my gains erased by some fat chud like desantis and his backwards florida economics. We need to push the climate change economy harder and promote its job boosting effects. Maybe grassroots /o/ and convince the chuds there to buy EVs.

>Things get worse
>Games Workshop does better and better
>Actively hates its own fanbase and charges extortionate sums for minifigures

How have 40k fans not been marked as the ultimate soibois?

>>55465811
Crypto is a ponzi scheme

>>55465849
Also fuck all the so-called /biz/inessmen who don't have holdings outside the US. Embarrassing.

>>55465846

>gains erased by some fat chud

>gains erased

>under a Republican president

The only thing that gets erased are undeserved benefits for people who didn't try hard enough

>>55465816
>posting bloomberg articles is the act of a bot
Lol ok.

Baking.

So let me get this straight, the Americans have shut the market again for another nigger holiday? Which nigger are they celebrating today?

???

Why is spy still pumping? It's almost back at ath. Just 10% left. This seems disconnected from the present economic fundamentals.

/smg/bros, an important, business-related poll.
>best danmachi girl
https://strawpoll.com/YVyPm6k59nN

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-02/it-s-getting-a-lot-harder-to-chase-the-stock-rally-from-here-on
It’s Getting a Lot Harder to Chase the Stock Rally From Here On
Equities are disconnecting from worsening economic backdrop
Profit warnings, rising rates deal a blow to soft-landing bets
Global equities have decoupled from a worsening economic backdrop after rising about 13% in 2023, prompting warnings from some of the world’s top money managers that chasing the rally from here on is a risky move. Growing corporate profit warnings are also driving home the message.
“Resilience now is sowing the seeds for fragility down the line,” said Andrew McCaffery, global chief investment officer at Fidelity International. “The ‘best-flagged recession in history’ still isn’t upon us. But that recession will come when the lagged effects of policies eventually take hold.”
Almost 99% respondents in a Deutsche Bank AG survey of 400 market professionals said higher rates will likely lead to more global “accidents,” with most of them expecting the moves to bring fresh strain to financial markets.

>>55465892
I have $200k in VTIVX, and $300 in BASFY.

I sold TSLA at $186

>>55465956
It's 4th of July chud

>>55465849
>How have 40k fans not been marked as the ultimate soibois?
What do you mean? Everybody knows how they look.

>>55466074
Is this George Floyd’s day then

>>55466069

You aren't just a clown, you're the whole circus

>>55465989
>not a lot of layoffs
>anyone that is getting laid off can quickly find another job
>market still doesn’t believe Powell when he says he won’t cut rates the second we’re actually in trouble

And most importantly the market makers can do whatever the fuck they want to do, and they want to pump it right now to obliterate bears. The moment bears lose everything, they’ll dump it back down to 350. Unless another black swan blindsides the market, the MMs are pumping everything to crush the bears and steal their money

hi /smg/
any canadafriends here? I have a bit of a problem in that I work for a US company and get US shares from them. I want to sell some of the shares I have received and put them into a US trading account. My current broker charges a decent chunk to trade US stocks.

I want some US stuff to invest in but I can't day trade because the cost of repeat trades is too much for me to keep doing that (and I'm not smart / free enough to day trade). Do you guys have any suggestions?
>Are there relatively safe ETFs I can buy and forget?
>Are there low interest / low risk things I can buy on the market? Like in Canada we have weird ETFs that are basically just high interest savings accounts (4-5% risk free). I wouldn't mind parking my money in something like this until I feel better about taking on more risk.
>Are there barbell ETFs? I am worried about a big pullback in the stock market in the near future, would be cool to look at some with a strategy encouraged by my financial patron saint, ol mr Taleb himself

25500 bitfarms, what do I convert to? Cash and slowly go UPRO or do I go semi retard and go 50% TQQQ 50% VOO?

here is my funny image for murrica day

>>55466020
Price is at resistance I wouldn't do anything here until there's more info for the direction of the next move

CAUSE I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN
WHERE AT LEAST I KNOW I'M FREE
AND I WON'T FORGET THE MEN WHO DIED
WHO GAVE THAT RIGHT TO ME
AND I GLADLY STAND UP NEXT TO YOU
AND DEFEND HER STILL TODAY
CAUSE THERE AIN'T NO DOUBT I LOVE THIS LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND
GOD BLESS THE U.S.AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

>>55466133
do you not feel like bitfarms have more room to run up? why do you want to exit a position into etfs?

>>55466168
I don't know, I won't sell everything at once but feel like have to ladder sell to take profits, I'm+25% now

How do Americans celebrate 4th of July?
In my country for independence day we just have some small military parades, people hang flags outside their windows, and they just stay at home chilling, that's basically it.
Do you guys have some bigger scale events? Or eat something in particular like the turkey for Thanksgiving?

>>55466155
Thanks, Babylon—-I mean america!

>>55466155
>WHERE AT LEAST I KNOW I'M FREE
Not anymore, sadly. Pretending that you're still free and nothing has changed is pretty cringe.

>>55466194
We eat cheeseburgers, hotdogs, wear american flags, and shoot fireworks. Then we sing the national anthem but in spanish

>>55466209
AAAAAY MACARENA

>>55466201
>>55466203
Doomers can blow me. Greatest country in the history of the world, now and for all time.

>>55466277
>i heckin' love the united states of cultural marxism and jew supremacy
>would gladly die for my anti-white masters
ok, dude.

>>55466277
is that smellystone

>>55466020
https://archive.is/6urSm (to circumvent paywall, apparently the ph version is banned!)
>>55466147
watch the yields.. the yields / bonds are telling you the direction, but nobody is watching, nobody is listening to the bond market

happy U S of A day mutts. enjoy eating the slop and shooting the guns. we dont have those luxuries in my commie backwater shithole country. god bless i hate woman

>>55466020
Good bot

>>55466329
>>55466308
yeah, I'm totally a bot. you got me.

>>55466308
Could you explain what the inverted yield curve means to a brainlet?
>The closely-watched spread between the 2-year and 10-year U.S. Treasury note yields hit the widest since 1981 at -109.50 in early trade, a deeper inversion than in March during the U.S. regional banking crisis. The gap was last at -108.30 bp.

Why do I care about ^
I love Volkcer btw, if he were around he would put the money printing lunatics to rights

>>55466351
because the only lens we have through which we can observe the future is through the past and we know what inverted curves have historically signified.

>>55466380
honestly the bond market is super gay though
fuck bonds

>>55466336
Good bot

>>55466351
>Could you explain what the inverted yield curve means to a brainlet?
Sure.
In literal terms, what it means is that short dated bonds are trading with a higher yield than long dated bonds.
For example, look at this website:
https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/bond/tmubmusd02y?countryCode=BX
https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/bond/tmubmusd10y?countrycode=bx
You see how the 2 year bond has a yield of 4.925% and the 10 year has a yield of 3.858%?
This is the yield curve inverted - that a 2 year bond is paying higher interest than a 10 year bond.
Why does this matter / why should you care?
Investors (in general) demand a higher interest rate for a longer time period - if you're going to be locking up your money for 10 years, you want a higher interest rate for your trouble doing so. If you're only having to lock up your money for 2 years, you are more accepting of a lower rate of interest. This is due to a multitude of factors, but primarily due to fears/risks of inflation [10 years from now, there could be higher inflation, the money you get could be worth less - so you demand a higher interest rate]
When the yield curve gets inverted, market participants are expecting that the Fed will cut interest rates - why expect this? Because the economy will get weak (recession) and more banks will blow up due to the higher rates. The bond market expects a recession, there is greater uncertainty about what will happen in the short-run, demand higher interest rates
The real damage from an inverted yield curve has to do with lending and money supply growth. Banks make money "lending long and borrowing short" - what this phrase means is that banks will borrow money on a 1-3 month to 2 year duration, and then will make loans that may last for 10-30 years. When the yield curve is inverted, they are not making (as much, or at all) money - they have to borrow at 4.925% and lend at 3.858% (plus risk premium) Banks kill lending, kill money supply growth, kills economy

>>55466277
hell yeah

>>55466317
greetings from kazakstan

Lots of retarded bobo shills in the thread today, bullish buy signal. Never bet against America.

>>55466203
I use paypal everyday and they provide a great service

>>55465989
>native isekai

>O beautiful for spacious skies,
>For amber waves of grain,
>For purple mountain majesties
>Above the fruited plain!
>America! America!
>God shed His grace on thee
>And crown thy good with brotherhood
>From sea to shining sea!

>>55466501
Is it wrong to pickup girls in dungeons? isn't an isekai, though, newfag.

>>55466478
Refusing to acknowledge the problem will only make it worse.

>tasted my dry rub
>doesn't taste very good
I hope it turns out better after cooking. Adding that onion powder is looking like it was a mistake. Probably needs dry mustard too, but I don't have any of that.

>>55466609
Shouldn't it be pretty easy to just mix up a new batch of dry-rub, or add more of what you already have to balance out the onion powder? Most ingredients for dry rubs are cheap.

>>55466654
yes, but I am going to follow through anyway to see the final product.

>>55466454
So the reason that longer term bonds are paying less right now is that there is a risk of some of these bonds not being honoured for the longer term (on account of the banks issuing them blowing up?)

>>55466696
risk of bonds not being honored would unironically raise the bond yield, long term bonds are pricing in the fed lowering rates eventually.

>gf out of town
>home alone for a few days
>order some sex toys as I'm a massive degen and I want to enjoy my day
>order doesn't ship
>jack off anyway
>postnutclarity.tiff
>no cancel order button
>email them
>no reply
Holy fuck I don't want to call and talk about my order.
Why are the markets not open to distract me from doing this shit.
Fuck.
Where do I even store them if they do arrive.
I cannot even profit from this

>>55466740
>the fed lowering rates eventually

>>55466454
Thank you for the wise post

the writing is on the wall and there's nothing we can do then

>mfw I just wanted to trade today but also love freedom

>be foreignigger
>bad talk the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
>have to trade our stooks because yours shitty country can't into making companies worth trading
>have to do the bad talking on our websites because can't into making websites people go to

>>55466869
I see you are already drinking

>>55466897
never since years ago other than the little bit of wine during eucharistic communion with the LORD GOD Almighty.

happy 4th y'all

>markets closed again.
What the hell/ they were closed just a few weeks ago. AGAIN?

interpret this chart

I pledge allegiance to the Chicago Mercantile Exchange and the futures contracts for which it stands.

>>55466964
>interpret this chart
"you guys are alright
get out of the markets by september"

>AsytaZeneca -8% yesterday
>bounces +1.99% today

Is it really so easy?

>>55466122
Why are Canadians like this? Just get a better broker and look at low-cost index funds.

>>55466609
Add slightly more salt.

>>55466869
It's ok, let them live in their fantasy land. Most the people here shit talking America are either yuropoors who willingly handed over their only means of defending themselves to the government without firing a single shot, or even worse, pajeets. Guns are an afterthought frankly. After working 12 hours in the call center scamming American senior citizens for Google play cards, they collect their $0.12 in wages and go to pick up their thimble full of jasmine rice to feed themselves and their 13 children. That's the easy part. You ever had to walk miles home through knee deep shit? That's what they deal with everyday. It's like walking in quicksand. It's a small price to pay though since toilets are racist. They'll usually spill half their thimble of rice out on the way home to make matters worse. If that was your life, you'd be seething at Americans too. It's not easy to be CRBPajeet.

Why don't we have an index that is open on the weekend? Imagine how much volume you'd get if some non-western country did Thu-Fri as the weekend.

>>55466869
>have to trade our stooks because yours shitty country can't into making companies worth trading

It's literally x3 lower P/E to trade outside the US. Don't come crying to me because you have boring days with your undiversified portfolio.

>>55466984
>Why are Canadians like this?
i dont think any broker except for IB in Canada lets you trade relatively cheaply. IB needs a bunch of stuff including regular account activity so its really for day traders. Plus their application is confusing as fuck, I'm not some bloomberg terminal user trading options or some complicated financial instruments. I am your average caveman that wants to invest and forget.

>>55467025
Don't some Muslim markets close Friday-Saturday?

>>55467027
Less than a minute on bard tells me that Wealthsimple and Justwealth have $0 fees on fund investments. Don't bother with ETFs unless you're moving large sums of money fairly regularly, cheaper mutual funds will exist that just track indices.

Times like this I dream of a day when we have a united latin american stock exchange where we can spend the american holidays gambling away at meme penny stocks ranging from venezuelan black market to brazilian booty to bolivian clandestine rooster fights

when did doombull come back? this better be a summer rally or im fucked.

Goddamnit I just wanted to stay home and play Diablo 2 all day but I got bombarded by my normalfag friends to go out tonight. I wish all my friends were shut in doomers like me.

>>55467027
IB has everything you want though, they list almost every stock around
I like the app, it really grew on me. Yes it's confusing but you can do whatever the fuck you want with it.

>>55467005
kekles!
>>55467025
the only "portfolio" i need is
NATTY GAS STUFF
>NATTY GAS STUFF
NATY GAS STUFF
BOIL
KOLD
BOIL
KOLD
BOIL
all p/es are for queers
all we need are GWDDs (gas weighted degree days).

>>55467052
Yeah they have their weekend start on a Friday the Saudi Stock Exchange runs Sunday-Thursday. Nothing on Saturday though.

>futures

>>55467070
>Wealthsimple and Justwealth have $0 fees on fund investments
I don't think this is right, especially not for USD accounts and trading. Wealthsimple wants $10/mo for usd accounts unless you have $100k.

>>55467070
>using Bard rather than Bing AI
tickers SGY and DGY

>>55467078
i did that recently on a holiday. just stayed home and gamed. good times.

>>55465772
I remember having seen a website that displays export and import data on various countries with extremely good interactive features, displayed in a map stylie simmilar to pic related from https://finviz.com/, but like with individual industry branches like electronics, automobile industry, food products, steel, etc.
and you could directly compare different countries and how much and what they each import and export to each other.
Does anyone remember that website and has a link, I've seen it posted on 4chan before.

>>55467167
I completely over going out and hanging out with people. Probably just depression but I just want to stay home. Normally I'd just say no, but my friends little daughter once her "uncle" to be there to watch the fireworks with her and her family and I'll suck it up to make the kid happy. That's basically my only kryptonite.

>>55466308
Which bond yields do you look at specifically?

>>55467169
Probably the OEC https://oec.world/en/

(aka the guys who make Tradle: https://oec.world/en/tradle/))

>>55467177
its also a personality thing. go late or leave early whatever is better.

>>55467234
Yeah I'll just hang out for an hour or so. I already have to visit my parents this afternoon so I'm going to be socially burned out. Doesn't help my mood that markets are closed.

You bought calls right anon?

>>55467209
all of them
and you should look at / be familiar with foreign ones too, in particular UK, Germany, France, Australia
10 year is benchmark
3 month / 2 year are important for short end

What is it going to take to get this thread populated again?

>>55467353
the smell of easy money

>>55467365
This isn't enough?

holy fuck, lmfao

>>55467383
everybody thought there was going to be a third leg down and missed the rocket ship.

>>55467396
LOL bil pays 5% yoy, they just got caught with their shorts down.

There were explosions outside my house all day long yesterday.

>>55467396
That's really not as bad as you think. Hedge funds are really not that great at generating alpha in most cases. This is why passive funds have ruled.

>>55467426
Many don't want to eat the fees involved in near term trading, or have a prospectus that omits leveraged investments.

>>55467460
That sounds like two strategies most accredited RIA's would remark on in their prospectus and write "hey we're not retarded enough to gamble your money this aggressively"

>>55467467
Then they buy growth with 200p/e at the top instead.

>>55467488
Many such cases. Like Tiger Global. Lol.

What are some good stocks that aren't pumped yet? I'm thinking NET
For penny stocks I like MCOM

>>55467500
Go for dividend traps instead. REITS on sale everyday.

>>55467259
The 10 year yield looks pretty strong in my chart and It seems to just track equities / btc which seems counter intuitive because yields being greater would tell me you're getting a better risk free return but maybe I just don't understand that bond market.

>>55467353
It's the 4th of July (Independence Day) which is kind of an ironic name since US is controlled by the fucking Federal Reserve lmao

>>55467527
But they probably know better than us right?

>>55467405
In reference to bonds I think they were just talking about payouts for the first half of the year in the greater context of the article, so that 3% isn't a yoy number.

https://www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/the-economy-didnt-crater-in-the-first-half-of-2023-and-that-means-wall-street-was-very-wrong-d1f25327

>>55467540
Yes

Thank God we have a smart and talented board of independent economists to legally tamper with monetary policy. This has never caused any issues for the American people.

>>55467577
>Thank God we have a smart and talented board of independent economists to legally tamper with monetary policy
UNIRONICALLY

When did you realize crypto was bullshit?

>>55467648
i haven't seen one compelling product beyond using basic tokens to buy drugs

>>55467500
SQQQ

>>55466209
He's actually celebrating this shit. Lol. Happy Hanukkah you absolute tools, puppets, minions. You are OWNED by god's chosen like livestock.

>>55467648
I always thought it was bullshit failing to realize that in fact everything is bullshit and you should embrace the greater fool. I would be so much wealthier if I did.

>>55467648
When I lost 800 dollar on QuadrigaCX

>>55467669
Goddamn fucking NVDA
I will never second guess normies again.

Day off today. Doing nothing but relaxing till tonight when we're gonna pop off some fireworks. Found out that I'm in line to inherit 100+ acres of land. Which on the one hand sucks cause uh that'd mean someone would be dead. The other hand WTF would I even do with it? By the time this all happens barring something bad, hell I'll be in my 60's at least. I'll be to fucking old to fuck about with taking care of something like that.

>>55467710
i'm sure you'll think of something by then.

>>55466194
If you’re well adjusted, you either do nothing and are happy or you hang out with your buddies/people you like. If you aren’t well adjusted you either do nothing and end up miserable or you hang around a bunch of people you’d literally pay money to not hang around.

>>55466955
This is the last major holiday until Labor day in September. Most American public holidays are concentrated in the autumn/winter. The longest stretch of no holidays is February to May.

>>55467648
bottom signal

>>55467665
Where the fuck do you live chud?

>>55467777
I live in Wyoming and won't be celebrating this Kike Worship holiday. No libertarians like me should be celebrating this crap.

>In economics and finance, a Glownigger Market is said to occur when a country's financial policymakers begin manipulating econometric data for their political benefit. [1] This may be accompanied by organized propaganda campaigns, hidden monetary easing, as well as other forms of financial repression, in order to reinforce the illusion that a nation's troubled economy is sound and resilient. [2, 3] In a Glownigger Market, stocks may seem to rally, even irrationally so, in the face of worsening economic conditions. However, while the goal of a Glownigger Market is to either delay or prevent a politically undesireable financial correction from occurring, the policy actions that led to the Glownigger Market invariably increase the severity of the subsequent financial crisis. By attempting to overpower healthy corrective market forces, a Glownigger Market causes extreme capital misallocation that can turn a minor economic downturn into a severe and protracted economic depression. [4] >https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/glowniggermarket.asp

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>>55467540
Reminder that the "Buy Calls"/Tay/ewhore poster is a literal confirmed glow in the dark federal agent.

>>55467253
>>55467353
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>>55467540
Reminder that the "Buy Calls"/Tay/ewhore poster is a literal confirmed glow in the dark federal agent.

>>55467648
When my mom bought a crypto mining rig for some random shitcoin I never heard of

>>55467786
Listen chud, if it wasn't for this day in 1776 we would still be serving the bongs. We'd be calling cookies biscuits, we'd be calling fries chips, and we'd be calling soccer football. Don't take the United States and all it's glory for granted. Things could be worse. You could be a bong.

>pre-futures

>>55467894
we'd be NOGUNS faggots!
there would be no RGR and SWBI to trade!

>local auth-left goons banned fireworks
>have signs everywhere saying no fireworks allowed
>tons of police patrols handing out $1k+ fines
>these are the same people that openly mock the concept of free speech
>the same people that support the government censoring everyone they disagree with
>the same people that support using the government to arrest anyone who votes against them
>the same people who want to give unlimited power to the alphabet agencies so we can live under their thumb
>the same people who do all of this and call it "democracy"
The 4th used to be my favorite holiday of the whole year, but this year it's become a mockery of itself.

>>55465772
This Duck approached me and said I should buy MCLD.

does tranny jannie get time and a half today?

This week ought be red so say I
>>55468012
double time today.

>>55467894
>You could be a bong.
Any bongs eating mushy peas today?

Is it time to load up on DRV yet?

>>55467986
I had a marmot tell me to double down on my MIC stacks.

Should I kill myself?

>>55468120
Why KYS yourself and miss out on all the comedy/horror of this world?

>>55467976
Barbecuing should be illegal too, it's dangerous and bad for the environment. Alcohol also. Fourth of July should be spent with quiet reflection at home eating pic related.

can someone shill me some iodine stocks?

>>55468120
No, kill your enemies

>>55467976
Same. Grew up in a free state and moved to MA. 4th of July here is shit.

>>55468140
Omg yum!

just had an email from what3words, they're doing another funding round. i chucked £100 at it last year while pissed up at the pub, apparently at some point this will translate into shares (maybe).
thoughts? worth throwing more at it? it's becoming popular in the uk and is the kind of thing some yank yech company would buy out in the future.

>>55468140
We tired that making alcohol illegal thing once and it didn't work too well.

>>55467648
after silkroad got busted.

>>55468193
What's the tl;dr on the how and why they got busted?

>>55468184
>Meme competitor to fucking GPS/Galileo/GLONASS
For what purpose?

>>55468187
That was so gasoline had no competition for a few years since early cars ran on either.

>>55467976
>living in a city
anyone around here making any attempt to ban fireworks would at the very least get the trees in their yard toilet papered. the nearest house to here had pro level fireworks last night but we just go out in the yard and shoot guns whenever we want too.

>>55467710
You could get almost 100 MW of solar power from that

>>55468229
Now THIS is a redpill hole I need to explore. Anyway, I run on ethanol too.

>>55468219
more of a meme competitor to the coordinate system.

>>55468256
I'll meet you at purple monkey dishwasher this evening m8.

>>55468230
>it's okay for your country to turn into an authoritarian third world shithole as long as it's only in the most populated areas where the majority of the population lives

>>55466858
that pure acceptance to just walk away with nothing at the end
just like in my yankee markets

what's a good movie to watch for the 4th

>>55468267
it's actually a place in colarado. the comanche national grassland sounds very romantic m8 ill bring the tins.

>>55468272
Babylon is as Babylon does, I'm no citizen of this world.

>>55468308
I'm more of a Pawnee National Grassland man, but it's nice country.

t. Coloradofag

>>55465836
USD shitcoin is going to zero.

-M2-
1980: $1.5T
2000: $4.5T
2020: $15T
2023 $20.5T

I bought MULN any chance it will go up?

>>55466020
Money printer go brrrrrr

>>55468328
beautiful part of the world. one day id love to just drive around the us for 12 months.

>>55468312
Fuck you, faggot. Some of us actually don't want America to turn into another China.

>>55468219
that is just an unsettlingly high resolution image
full on you can really feel the smothering thickness of vapidity and fraudularity
god i feel filthy

alright, having tasted my dry rub ribs, my verdict is, don't trust food bloggers talking about putting large amounts of brown sugar in your rib rub.

>>55468306
Independence day

Happy 4th to the anon who shilled NEON here before the new year. Marksman hearing this Friday and I’m comfy.

>>55468384
What about a finance related one?

>>55468363
want in one hand and shit in the other, see which one fills up the fastest
what you want and don't want is as consequential as a rat fart

Natural Gas and Bitcoin are going to rip.

Buy BOIL and RIOT / MARA

Boomers and the obese are going to rip.
Buy CURE and RXL

>>55468452
Such an obvious shill LARP.

>>55466020
commenting on the picture alone:
what's the argument?
seems like around 17/18 the "disconnect" was even greater...

>>55467027
Ok, I signed up for an IB account. Anyone know what the most cost effective way to transfer funds from a US broker (etrade) to a Canadian IB account is? I get RSUs in some special etrade US account where I can only sell them. I get two options for proceeds: wire or cheque

Right now what I do is select cheque disbursement and deposit it into a USD savings account I have with a Canadian bank. And I am going to try to use EFT to move that money into IB. However this is cumbersome, and was wondering if anyone had a more time/cost effective way. You Americans are really quite lucky with how easy it is to trade.

>>55468458
what makes you say that natgas is going to go up??

I just love America. That's all. Even if the glowie spammer is right and it all crashes down I'll still love American just as much. Fuck Trump, Fuck Joe Biden, grab a gun and let's go celebrate our freedoms.

>>55468446
Bane

>>55466869
>>55466938
>>55467090
>>55467166
>>55467631
>>55467962
>>55468230
>>55468312
>>55468452
For me, it's claiming to be a pro-American nationalist, and then also telling people to shut up and get back in line when they talk about the government trampling on American ideals.

>>55468548
Stop trying to turn this country into a totalitarian police state and then we'll talk, IP-hopping glownigger.

>>55468548
American will bend the knee. It is only a matter of time your freedoms will undo you. It is inevitable.

Honestly surprised soxl isn't back to $30 yet considering where spy is

>>55468586
>more glownigger samefagging
What fucking freedoms? The president literally said that he doesn't believe in the concept of freedom of speech.

>>55468458
Is it too late to buy these or have they peaked?

>>55468149
But if you kill your enemies, they win!

>>55468603
Greatest economy in US history, greatest and fastest economic recovery in US history. You sound like a butthurt doomer who lost all his money shorting the market.

>>55468661
Falsifying economic data isn't a valid substitute for freedom of speech you braindead fucking shill.

when is Futures 2 coming out?

>>55468683
The data is real, if it was false literally 10s of thousands of workers would all be in on the conspiracy with not a single person leaking it. It's absurd to even suggest that the data is false. You're an angry loser because you recently got laid off and had to take a job making 20% less in a different state.

>>55468069

is this the perfect time to get into WEAT?

>>55468697
what a stupid statement. why would 10s of thousands of workers have to be "in" on the lie? no single worker is going to know about all the other workers to know whether its a lie or not that there are more workers. they would just know that they themselves are unemployed and assume it must be other people with a job and not them.

>>55468558
>telling people to shut up and get back in line when they talk about the government trampling on American ideals
i neither say nor imply any such thing, just stating actual reality as it is. this world has long been destined to end by the culmination of the totality of all human ways and there is no stopping it other than by the hand of the LORD GOD Almighty.

In case anyone ITT had any doubts about this place being infested with literal professional information warfare government shills, they'll follow you around 4chan and build up a profile of you so they can do targeted shilling. See:
>>55468697
>>55468473

Abolish the FBI now.

>>55468768
Because you conspiracy dipshits don't understand that nearly all your conspiracies rely on many people knowing some "secret" with nobody leaking it. Your 9/11 theories are the same way, and now you morons are applying the same twisted logic to the market to justify your bearish delusions. I

>>55468779
Just long the stock market, sit down and shutup. This is your final warning.

Government agents aren't following you. Regular people are trolling you because you're a schizo who schizos out and posts copypasta every time someone says something you dislike and it's funny to push your buttons.

I've been boomer investing lately, but I have a few hundred left over. I don't want to just DCA that... anything worth gambling on coming up?

>>55468337

>>55468867

>>55468824
>>55468829
>>55468835
>America is so great that we need to take all of your rights away, and if you don't like it you're a schizo traitor!!!
I don't even want to imagine the kind of fucked up, amoral "person" that's capable of harboring this level of cognitive dissonance. Glowniggers are inhuman.

>>55468824
You're like , actually a shill. That's crazy . Didn't totally believe in the Glowie, shareblue stuff. But damn, here you are ...

>>55468884
>1pbtid

>WTI: +1.776%
Proving once and for all that oil is the most American investment.

>>55468898
Nobody wants to give out their home IP address because you glowniggers follow people around and harass them. It's some real CCP-tier bullshit.
>>55468697
>>55468473

Watch them try to delete these posts to hide that they got caught following people to do targeted harassment.

>>55468779
goddamn that is crazy. how did he know he was talking to the same person across different threads?

>>55466289
>Freedom was a mistake.

>>55467976
Idk anon. Everyone is popping illegal fireworks in my city? Maybe you need to live in the chad state of California

>>55468824
youre sidestepping what i said. if a president fakes employment data what do the workers have to do with it? is a single worker going to see the data and go "HEY IM UNEMPLOYED THATS NOT TRUE MR PRESIDENT". your average worker has no access to the data or even know how theyre tallied into it. how is a single worker going to know if the president added in more workers? does this average worker have access to data of all the workers in the country? are they all in a discord channel to tally how many are working or not?
im not even debating whether the data is fake or not im criticizing that your argument that its not possible because for economic jobs data somehow there would have to be collusion between all the workers in the data even though they have no part in calculating the data in any way.

>>55469024
All those mods you see on the 4chan IRC server are federal employees. They can see IPs and post histories. Lower tier shills can also track you through filenames and image hashes.

>>55468898
I had nothing to say to anyone else :/

>>55468379
That sucks, confectioner anon. I swear, some people eat so much sweet stuff that they can't tell when something is overly sweet.

>>55469024
the agent that's here on 4channel uses remote viewing to look at the Virginia agent's computer screen with the PRISM dashboard on it and can see that the person who posts the same image on a regular basis in this thread is the same as the one who posted it in the other thread. Since there's no possible way that 2 anons could possibly read the same 2 threads on this one board by pure coincidence, the 4channel agent uses a pendulum to find where the followed target is posting. The pendulum swings clockwise and counterclockwise to give direction, and forms tighter and wider patterns to indicate "warmer" and "colder" respectively. They can't notice the image that the target regularly posts though, because all of this is done in a closed eyed trance state. Verification not required.

>>55469184

>>55469184
Shitty diversion attempt, glownigger. You've been caught.

>>55467857
>combo breaker
>>>>55467396

>>55469225
You haven't caught shit. Unless paranoia is contagious.

>futures

>>55468697
Why bother trying to reason with doomers

>>55469268
Cope.

>>55468379
Too high of heat if it's burning after wrap, you a wrap last hr guy or no? I agree though brown sugar if for bbq sauce.

>>55469184
yea but he didnt post that image in the other thread.

>>55469300
It's a lot harder to astroturf a fake consensus when /biz/ has post IDs, isn't it?

>>55469321

>>55467857
>>55468473

>>55469184
Listen cunt. I've been here long enough to say confidently that you can have multiple iDs post the same photo while being different people . Also the timing on the posts is waaaay too close together for it to be random luck.

>>55469311
I am, I've been putting up with your shit. Tell us about your portfolio, your investing style, or something biz related. I'm a boomer style investor, maxing out my 401 and Roth, praying for an early retirement.

>>55469300
I don't expect to change their minds, I hope to assist innocent bystanders that are new to investing. Many new investors are reading these threads and if we don't counter the bearish bullshit they may fall into the trap of making no money and watching TheMaverickofWallstreet.

>>55469346
>different filenames
Ya dun goofed.

>>55469348
>Listen cunt. I've been here long enough to say confidently that you can have multiple iDs post the same photo while being different people . Also the timing on the posts is waaaay too close together for it to be random luck.

>>55469350
Pure macro strategy since it's stastically improbable to beat the market. Right now the macro environment dictates inverse boomer investing, which is why the current market is so fake and gay.

>>55468989
Your behavior is even more unhinged than normal, schizo. Did your shorts get liquidated last week? I've noticed Maverick has been more butthurt too in his recent videos, his impotent bearish rage is starting to show, it's quite funny.

>>55469375
*statistically

>>55469372
>giving up and just posting incoherent bullshit until other people get tired of responding because you got caught being a shill and lost
Nice one.

>>55469376
Shilling can't change the laws of economics, glownigger. The more you try to manipulate the market, the harder it's going to crash.

>>55469363
you literally linked to it yourself saying that it's (You). i hope for your sake that you're just LARPing as a schizotard for entertainment. i won't respond to anything further because it's pointless pissing in the wind, which i really already knew from past observations, and if i'm going to shit a thread up then i want it to be with
NATTY GAS STUFF
>NATTY GAS STUFF
NATTY GAS STUFF
BOIL BOIL BOIL
KOLD KOLD KOLD
BOIL BOIL BOIL
O
I
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instead.

Anyone here holding private twtr shares? Is it still trading at 54?

>>55469375
At this point i want every macro indicator to be ignored forever. Not quite euphoric but close.
>WILSHIRE/GDP

>>55469415
I've been intentionally rotating my filenames because I know you glowniggers are following me. You shouldn't have been able to link those two posts. You're just digging yourself into a deeper hole.

>>55469375
I should learn more about that (a macro strategy) and how to execute it. But my boomer funds have me both comfy right now, and fearful of what is around the corner.

>>55469439
I am now treating you as satire and i love it.

>>55469469
>get caught shilling
>haha it was all a joke, let's have a laugh XD

>>55469481
Ha ha yea

>>55469485
Abolish the FBI now.

>>55469494
The squeeze hasn't squozed

arent futures out? what are they?

>>55469517

>>55469348
the hashes have to be different, which you can check.

>>55469501
Now you're trying to associate anyone who recognizes the obvious glownigger shilling with the plebbit baggies, in a last ditch attempt to discredit the people calling you out.

>>55469531
>the terrorists jihaded the futures

>>55469517
just search ES on tradingview

>>55469536
slv squoze is a lie too baggie

>>55469588
2 more shill damage control attempts

>>55469595
what is this pattern called?

>>55469615
It's called "I totally fucked up my shilling and made myself look like a total idiot, so now I desperately need to discredit the people who realize I'm an obvious inorganic shill".

Eat some food and take a nap fren, you'll need the energy for tomorrow.

>Beijing imposed export controls on gallium and germanium, two minerals critical to the production of semiconductors.
What does this mean for SOXL? Last time we had a headline like this it was neon from Ukraine and nothing came of it.

>>55469647
Thanks anon, I can't wait to see what the police state will bring me.

>>55469651
i wondered about that too, either it makes it more difficult for them to make things so they lose money, or it jacks their prices up and make more, or perhaps both balance each other out.

these threads suck now.

>-0.05%
It's over Mümü, I have the high ground

>>55469737
They don't suck, you just stayed short.

>>55469737
>best ytd market returns in half a century
>no normie hype, threads deader than the VIX
it's eerie lads

Leaving aside whodunit and /pol/ arguments, a Zaporozhye nuke plant explosion would be bearish for uranium, right? Or bullish because we'd sanction Rosatom or some shit?

>>55469737
That's literally what the shills want. They want to gradually lower the quality of discussion so they can force people to lose interest and migrate onto more easily controlled platforms like reddit. If they were to just shut this place down all at once, people would migrate to a new 4chan equivalent. See also: "Mining the Chans".

>>55469769
Super bearish
>seee look how dangerous nuclear power is close down all the plants

>>55469769

>>55469315

What the fuck how old is this?

I dont see any niggers and everybody looks kike they are having a good time.

>>55469739
>-0.10 now
>literary double negatived in like 10 minute
>spy will be 0 in an hour

>>55469651

Nothingburger

>>55469808
>It will be -102.4% in under 2 hours

I remember when /smg/ was shilling gambling stocks and the general wasn't so damn boring all the time. Do you niggers really expect to beat inflation with oil? Where are the discussions on fun stocks like $APLD, $U, $MTTR, etc? We really peaked in 2021.

>>55469848
only boomer investors are left, all the gamblers got wiped out playing GME and AMC.

>>55469848
>Do you niggers really expect to beat inflation with oil?
I doubled my portfolio size in the last two months by swinging Oil. It's not something you hold for two weeks or more, you buy a dip and sell when it recovers, rinse and repeat.

>>55469854
Sure looks like it. It used to be great here, I remember the early days of 2021 in which every market opening felt like an opportunity, everyone was pumped and shilling the next big thing. Sure most of them were casino stocks but there were gems as well, as long as you remembered to sell. I never see that kind of energy and intel here anymore.

Should I be eating up more Take Two interactive? It's been rising for a year and is at the ath point, and there hasnt even been a trailer for gta6 yet. Imagine the mooning when the trailer comes out, imagine the mooning when the actual game comes out...

>>55469848
HUT > HIVE > MARA > RIOT > WULF > GBTC

That enough gambling tickers for ya?

>>55469879
>main character is a black women
Ya... sure.. to the moon

Bulls always win because we are gay faggots. Take that Bobo! We got the ECG Blackrock score on our side!

>>55469869
Yeah and I was there shilling ARKG constituents that would go up 5%-10% a day for a few days. But now people like me figured out that it's not a good idea to put money in high beta garbage so I turned to commodities and now things aren't silly anymore, I don't even realise losses anymore. I don't get dopamine hits from chasing pumps on retarded stocks, I just make sensible gains from buying low and selling less low. Isn't that a positive development?

>>55469879
just release a new location for gta online, sell trinkets and call it done

The nuke pLnt thing is a nothingburger.

It was very publicly shut down last year and all fuel removed. Russia put this all over TV and IAEA inspectors verified every bit of it.

The buildings could be bombed, there would be near zero radiological issues.

Biggest risk is from the spent feedwater pond..but that flows straight down the Dniepr if its breached. No risk at all.

Glowies are up to something, but it wont be chernobyl 2.0

So in a nutshell, buy every dip regarding this plant

>>55469936
Eh, I'm already balls deep in RIOT and MARA. They've been about half of my portfolio since November or so. BTC might stay crabbing for another year though, so I don't want to put everything on those stocks. There's really no good reasons they're suddenly going up so much considering the crabbing of BTC so investing at these prices might have more downside potential than upside. I'll just sit tight with the amount of stocks I have on miners for now.

>>55469945
There's nothing wrong with maturing in your trading but there are still low cap stocks out there with extreme upside potential and minimal downside. A month ago I traded $AI for example. With the amount of hype around it, there was simply no way it was going below $17 and staying there, I sold at $39. Easiest trade I made in a long while. I'm not saying I'm still willing to throw 10k on whatever $CLOV, $WISH and $NAKD were doing back then but there's a difference between gambling and taking calculated risks.

>>55469848
>penny stock general dead
>/smg/ dead
>my portfolio dead
at this rate to get entertainment im going to have to get into double and triple leveraged etfs since nothing happens any more

Thinking about running to KR to get a lil snack...
Please talk me out of it
I already give them too much money

i have taken far to much cocaine than is sensible for a tuesday evening alone

>>55470007
i just put some oats in peanut butter and am eating it with a spoon, no need to go spend money on fancy shit

>>55469953
QRD on the webm?

TICKER: RUM

>>55470024
Um, based
*ahem*

>>55470029

Not much to say

In 2014 a guy smoked meth and punched a window then bled to death

>>55470040
>troon poster
>being a druggie is based
seek God

>>55470094
It was meant as a play on words regarding cocaine. I meant it to be as, um, on the nose as necessary :(

This comment >>55470115 contains a pun

>>55470094
it would have worked if they specified having smoked it

>>55470135
meant to quote >>55470115

We are settling this once and for all: technical or fundamental analysis?

>>55470216
Feelings. No but seriously, support and resistance. And feelings. And maybe pay attention to volume and RSI but realistically those things don't matter.

Support and resistance is respected by both algos and niggers. I mean humans. Sorry

My puts need Jewkraine to false flag the reactor. Is it over for me?

>>55465772

I just put it all in Sentinel One ticker: S

it's owned by jews and used everywhere. Only $15 share Already up like 20%+ not selling til it gets to triple digits anyway

>>55470216
both and other abstractions

>>55470024
I did 4 grams in one long night once and didn't even realize it ofc this wasn't some nigger street shit either. I gave the rest away bc I didn't want to push my luck

Where is the jew genie on a gay night like this? I mean janitor. I mean Jew Overlord. Shit. I mean brilliant benefactor. Fuck

I mean where is our sour, faggot nigger who always imagines the tiny size of his own penis before deleting threads?

Is he here with us now?

YOU FUCKING COWARD, FAGGOT, NIGGER FUCK.

>>55470216
The momentum premium is the only research validated long term edge over the market. Even Fama acknowledges it as a persistent anomaly. Moving averages and breaks above 52 week high are two popular ways to measure momentum. The problem with fundamental analysis is while it can raise awareness of a market anomaly it doesn't give a relatable enough timeframe to make it profitable to trade e.g. you could easily says stocks are overvalued according to CAPE and of course they are. But what are you gonna do about it? Sell everything? Go short? Good luck with that

Anyone invested in Residue Processing?

>>55470363
Momentum with convex price trajectory as measured by linear regression against the square of time e.g. cup and handle is an excellent visual indicator and has edge

>>55470351
Anon, I must kindly ask that you seek professional help. Please stop shitting up multiple /smg/ threads with schizoposting about God's chosen peoples. Thank you.

>>55470216
Technical analysis on no news, fundamental analysis on news.

>>55470040
I look like this.

>>55470407
>Anyone interested in residue processing
Only if it involves destruction of the illegitimate state of Israel

I hope someone here listened when i told you to buy JOBY

>>55470451
You're a very pretty girl anon

How is it just going up forever? I dont even know what to buy right now or if its better to just wait. Its all so tiresome

>>55470436
Are you mad, gay nerd? Let's keep going with this. Reply to this. Are you as Jewish as I perceive you to be... ?

>>55470436
I'm double-replying to your faggot ass. Definitely have a conversation with me. I would love to see how you react to fact sand knowledge of the stock market.

Faggot.

>>55470556
>>55470556
>>55470556
>>55470556

>>55470525
Market is a bit overextended. We could use a healthy pullback right about now. Please make the sacrifice and go all in at the open, anon. You will be remembered

>>55466351
>if he were around he would put the money printing lunatics to rights
A HUGE part of volcker's "taming" of inflation was just cooking the books hardcore, early 80s is when they started using complete ass-pulls like "owner equivalent rent"

>>55468141
SQM