/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>55450001
but post scarcity is the only way to eliminate the pursuit of money as a concept
but i believe that would bring us another set of problem unless we would find an external conflict to struggle against

>>55450001
You're basically asking if everyone is ok with going on a Zelda item fetching quest every time a merchant has something they want but nothing the merchant will except as payment.

And the answer is no.

>>55450001
>we all know that money, or rather the pursuit of, is the root of all evil in the world
I have this theory that socialists never watched a wildlife documentary or been outside their whole life, because it baffles me that 90% of what comes out of their mouths is rethoric bullshit.

>>55450029
so maybe thats why theyre pushing ayy lmaos so hard
>>55450034
no money, no merchant. oblivion fetch quests will be optional
>>55450038
im not sure what point youre trying to make, but it sounds like a very weak ad hominem

>>55450001
>bring every Asset on chain
>have the entire economy be tracked by decentralized oracles and managed by smart contracts
>have a trained AI to monitor each person in the world and their consumption habits but also make it do the math if a person consumes too little or too much and use this knowledge to plan the economy around that
>you only get to consume if you do what the AI tells you (like doing your job) but you dont actually get paid
>if the AI decides you are useless it locks you out of everything and alarms police officers to your location so you can be transported to disposal site
>AI overlords now manage the entire world and keep everything in balance
>hidden features make the AI allocate more resourcs to the elites

do you like my idea?

>>55450076
cant say i care for it. crypto was a fun experiment but its ended up taking the same course as fiat: an intangible commodity that people will do anything to obtain. in the real world, its worthless.

>>55450001
never as long as humans exist. money is a societal illusion, not an object that can be disproved.

>>55450085
thats the endgame tho, have AI monitor everyone and plan the economy around that, make predictions and build around that.
that way the economy would always remain in balance, there would be no boom and bust cycles.
the AI decides everything for you.

so if you are a good goyim you get a nice house and good food, if you are a bad goyim you get nothing.

>>55450087
how did money start? was it always gold or was it things people could actually use? was it like sumeria or whatever where they had little rocks that counted as i.o.u's? i dont think going back to precious metals is feasible at all, because its just another thing to hoard. i dont know what the answer is outside of billions must die etc etc
>>55450094
i know the end game, thats why i said i dont care for it. having some perfect machine model handle all of the fine print just takes the fun out of life. people live, people die, thats how the story goes. but some people live better than others, even though they still die in the end.

You are retarded and have a mental block called low IQ that prevents you from understanding basic economics. Money solves double coincidence of wants, I have an apple and I want a banana, what are the chances of finding a guy who has bananas and wants apples in exchange? See how retarded you are for attacking what solves this fundamental issue with bartering? We need money, it is a tool. The root of all evil is humans because they are scum, that's why we have law, which is also garbage because state dictates it instead of free market.

This is not something you can get around as long as scarcity exist which it always will. Your best bet is taking the courts from the hand of the government to lower crimes that occur over the pursuit of money, state dirties everything it touches, this is the realistic approach. Abolishing money is you and your ilk's pea brain fantasy.

>>55450076
You just described the Anti-Christ. Congrats, Anon.

we could all use BTC for everything

>>55450187
SN is the anti-christ

>>55450187
your pic is what ive got my fingers crossed for

>>55450158
It’s not humans themselves that are the root of all evil, but rather the human ego. If humans could conqueror their egos aka Satan, things could be groovy. No ego maniacs and psychos in any position of power. No real pay for those jobs/positions. AI “drafts” the best candidates for leadership positions.

we could just do barter

>>55450207
You will never fix people, hence we have courts. There will always be niggers, we just need effective measures to prevent them from getting too niggery and punish them to prevent niggers from causing too much crime.

>>55450213
Those are zelda-tier fetch quests and are highly verboten
>>55450225
So is that a soft admission that the global society has failed? That some strange form of civnat balkanization is the answer? Do I need to return to the clan, is the question I'm really getting at here

>>55450240
>Those are zelda-tier fetch quests and are highly verboten

sending packages around the country isn't all that expensive

it's just a matter of connecting people who want to trade

This is retarded, money is a symptom of human desires being whimsical and as long as we have Imagination or Creativity then there will be scarcity, even if only artificial. People will always bandwagon on trends and social forces conspire with our biological desires to make this always true.

Until humans are all cyborgs that transcend our 'feelings' then money will be useful to those who want to exercise their urges. Once we're cyborgs we'll still have electricity and ultimately entropy as a unit of currency.

>>55450254
Sounds like we need to return to the bicameral mind era

>>55450278

>>55450116
>people live, people die
its not really that much about the individual but the entire world economy.
we dont have unlimited resources to support exponential human growth, as population goes up the quality of life will go down and thats a very simple truth, if we have to divide the resources across more people everyone will have less and eventually you have nothing and famines and riots and wars follow.
Its a funny paradox in this world, you keep promoting healthy families you will make this whole exponential problem worse but if you are promoting the destruction of the family and total control over reproduction and other human misery then you can make a sustainable profit. That paradox tells us everything we can expect from the AI.
>>55450199
wait til you find out what the Great Reset really is.

>>55450001
>we all know that money, or rather the pursuit of, is the root of all evil in the world.
we know that midwits say that
you have to go back

>>55450296
You seem like you know what’s up is the whole carrington event part 2 gonna be real? Do the elites know what’s coming?

>>55450297
go back to where? since 2009 this is the only place ive been. my internet experience was ED, 4chan, arfcom, wikipaedo, and a few more inane places that dont need to be mentioned. please tell me where i should go back to so my dissent can be silenced like youre trying to do right now. you have no argument.
>>55450296
tell me what the end times will bring. im rather curious

>>55450376
and you're still a faggot, 14 years and you're still gay

>>55450403
No father figure, no arguments. Many such cases

>>55450001
the problem isn't money really the problem is the monetary system. If we had sound money that government and bankers couldn't just inflate whenever they wanted to so they can scam us then things wouldn't be so bad.

>>55450498
Nice projection, self-evident retard.

>>55450001
It would never work because human reproduction is based on haves and have nots, you need some system of accounting with social classes so women can judge wether a male is worthy of reproduction or not

>>55450001
People who exploit others for profit should just get the death penalty.
No sitting in prison waiting for a trail or some shit just execute them in a public place. Anyone who opposes gets the same fate.
We'd get rid of undesirables overnight.

>>55450076
>bring every Asset on chain
and i am supposed to trust whoever is responsible for doing this?

>>55450690
you need to remove women and you fix everything
kid-in-a-bag is the next big thing

>>55450073
>no money, no merchant. oblivion fetch quests will be optional

Not without money they won't. This anon >>55450158 is correct. Bartering sucks.
And the main problem isn't "money". It's money that has no opportunity costs attached to its creation, aka fiat aka goybucks

>>55450116
first "money" was just numbers in a ledger. specie came later

>>55450001
Thinking money is the cause of evil or even evil itself is absolutely retarded. Money solves the double coincidence of wants. It's a tool. It is incapable of evil, much less being the root of all evil.

Money is a medium to exchange things. If you removed it, people would just use a different medium. Sometimes they would trade people. Does that sound better to you? Life is always going to have an unequal distribution of access to resources. People will always desire resources. These two statements are enough to show that life is going to be unequal ad infinitum. If you want equality, get a religion that has that as part of the afterlife.

>>55450001
>money is the root of all evil in the world
Have you ever taken an IQ test? You could erase money and all knowledge of it and you would still have people hurting, killing and deceiving each other for various reasons. Only thing you would achieve is a simpler economy with barter for a while before people invented money again.

>>55450001
>we all know that money, or rather the pursuit of, is the root of all evil in the world.
I reject this premise as a diversion from the truth.
It is the pursuit of reputation, which has always existed independent of money, which is the root of all "evil" in the world.
Reputation translates to trust, which is the power to be believed.
>tl;dr power > money

>>55450085
Nah, man, those who claim crypto is worthless in the real world got it all wrong. We've witnessed real-life applications even with BTC, for real. And let's not forget how the metaverse and cryptocurrencies are straight-up revolutionizing our everyday lives. Just check out what Apple is up to with its sick AR tech or what holoride is doing with mind-blowing VR experiences. These ventures ain't worthless at all, they're paving the way for a whole new existence.