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rip

missed the cheapies, still no pay

i am financially ruined.

>>55403297
Silver's still below 23.
These ARE cheapies. Hurry up.

>>55403332
I HAVE NO CONFETTI FUNNYMONEY LEFTOVER TO BUY MORE SILVER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>55403274

Nice pic OP.

>>55403274
gm sirs

>>55403274

>>55403215

Fellow breeder here, you won’t regret getting the van, we only had a Corolla with 2 kiddos and it was awful lugging a stroller around now with 3 the van is getting full again. Seating is going to max out at 4 if have to take a trip. Hope to trade in for one of those giant Mercedes vans at 5. Will sell a few ounces of gold if I have to! No silver selling until it moons because premiums are so screwed.

>>55403527
Wife and I have 6 white children. We upgraded to a Ford Transit commuter van and love it. Highly recommend the 15 passenger mid roof. Remove the rear row seats for extra cargo space.

>>55403545
good point anon, I've driven those transits before, I'll expand my search to include those

trying to keep my cost below 9oz Au so I don't dig into my better stack pieces

>>55403657
>trying to keep my cost below 9oz Au
Rough market for vans. We got ours new in 2018 for $30k, but they're going for more like $70 now.

>>55403695
>$70k
I’m priced out! Going to have to pack economically for trips instead of riding in luxury. Such is life. 3 years until I need to look anyway. Hopefully gold pops a little between now and then.

>>55403657
With that many kids get the transits, my neighbor has 6 kids and I couldn’t imagine him driving anything else. He has a less costly Nissan Van

My child was born yesterday. Someone to leave my stack to

>>55404025
congratulations anon

Arise cheapies!

>>55404069
It's beautiful...
I am taking ownership of $4900 from a mutual fund. How much should I allocate to CC debt, GME, income shares, and PMs? Already have a nice stack and the CC debt is like 6K.

>>55403657
I take it you are avoiding financing because you'd be beholden to a bank?

>>55404269
Get rid of the debt. Have an emergency fund. Then invest/allocate.

I missed the drop...

>>55404269
>How much should I allocate to CC debt
all of it.

>>55404703
This. Debt is literally slavery. Free yourself and your mind.

>>55404074
So far so good, we haven't been down to comfy levels like this in months.

>>55403274
Postan Gold

>>55403274
>Golden Variety
This photo might be stale by now,. but...

Just don't pay the debt it will fall off in 7 years or become worthless when a loaf of bread is worth $10000.

my collection of dollar symbols so far, eyeing a vintage soviet era one on ebay thats rose gold with tiny diamonds in it, has a tiny hammer and sickle stamped on it too.

>>55403453
that is seriously one of the most beautiful pictures I've ever seen

Bought a house yesterday. Didn't use any of my pm stash for the down payment. Pretty stoked.

>>55404025
Congrats dude!
/pmg/ - 4chan loosers actually procreating
Who would have thought?
My youngest kid's gonna have his first birthday 3 days from now. He's gonna get 1g of gold and an Emu birb silver Oz.
>Vans
I'm more of a station wagon man, so I'm good with 2 of 'em. Holy shit, have vans "mooned", especially the VW ones. Nothing Volks about their prices. You unironically can get a Mercedes for cheaper.

>>55403453
I even had to give it my own flair

>>55404025
Congrats anon. If its a boy, leave it all. If it's a girl, leave it to the husband if she gets married in the future. Woman can't be trusted with this shit.

To be fair, I only started stacking when I had my first boy, so I could leave him something while everyone else fights over other assets.

New arrival... She seems well-fed.

>>55405535
I have a couple sets and some weight for each child set aside, no paperwork, when they have their first child I’ll hand it over. All girls so far. Kek.
>>55405101
Yes us losers are getting to be that age.

>>55405628
Excellent choice.

>>55405628
New arrival... derpy face, but nice coin these are 50mm.

>>55405682
ty Sir

metallic

got an email saying my package was signed for - by me while i was at work. i live alone. sweating on the drive home but luckily it was left in my secured mailbox. still irritated the postman signed for me.

>>55404722
debt is only not slavery if you use it to mortgage a rental property that will pay for itself

Newly acquired coins. The $20 USD I found on my lawn 2 years ago after it went through my mower. Still haven't deposited it yet, but it's mostly there so the bank will take it.

Also does anyone autistically leave their silver purchases on their night stand for a few days before putting it with the rest of the stack? It's almost like welcoming it home to me.

>>55405773
>$266 for feet and boobs
There's got to be a cheaper option for erotic rounds

>>55405905
I politely disagree. If you're indebted to a bank for payments, you're not thinking in the same way a free man does. A free man has a different view of the world. A slave has an incentive to keep a corrupt system propped up and in place to avoid his own destruction due to not really owning the things he tricks himself into thinking he owns. A free man knows that a note on a car, house, or property means it's not theirs until it's paid off.

>>55406040
>feet and boobs
Based footfag.

I did it. I sold my crypto. You guys were right. I am ready to buy silver and gold but I only have 12k. Where should I buy in bulk? Online or in person? Should I buy platinum and palladium too?

>>55406060
>I sold my crypto
Hell yeah brother. Mine was well spent. No major loss when I converted everything to BTC and spent all my crypto, <7% over a year at most. The idea of BTC is appealing, but now that BlackRock is involved I think hard assets is the best long term investment.

>>55406060
Monument metals has the best prices.

>>55406040
Kek - $210, but yeah.
Wasn't really going for the boobs though.

>>55406039
>does anyone autistically leave their silver purchases on
the desk by my keyboard, yes. Gotta admire them before squirreling away.

So, regarding 'cheapies', I think we should create a fun tier list like the stacker guide we have here. What are people's suggestions?

1oz gold cheapie =
1oz silver cheapie =

My 20oz worth of maples came in the mail today - can’t wait to get home

Canadian and English silver is so much nicer and somehow cheaper? US mint should be ashamed of itself

>>55405535
#notallwomen

>>55406306
Gold eagle
Wiener

>>55406564
No you plonker, I'm on about cheapie price.

Was about to do a standard $200 silver purchase this weekend but splurged on ammo again. Wish I had slurped some up but range time is just to addicting. Hope some of you snagged up the mid 22's when they were there.

>>55406579
U first then
I suppose I did post value picks

>>55406600
Spot price gold cheapie for me is around £1,470 with a spot price silver cheapie being £16. I dunno what the cheapies would be in Dollars or Euros as I have no interest in their value.

>>55406306
1oz gold cheapie= $1800 max $80 premium
1oz silver cheapie= $21.50 max $3 premium
1$ junk silver= 19fv

>>55404307
>I take it you are avoiding financing because you'd be beholden to a bank?
i'm buying used, but no i have no intention of being beholden to (((bankers))) any more than i can avoid it from now until i die

>>55403274

>>55406838
forgot pic

>>55406586
nice gat and kino bar, anon

Does Nevada Copper look like a serious company? I ask because I might have a job offer there.

I can only afford 10oz a paycheck am I going to make it? I only have one oz of gold and 24oz of silver and some pay dirt I paid 100 dollars for

>>55406940
>afford 10oz a paycheck
>am I going to make it
If that's 4 or 2 times a month, keep on stacking fren. It's not a race, it's a journey.

>>55403215

how are you supposed to pay in non-5¢ increments? Cut your dimes/quarters in half?

Where are my Roman chads at?

>>55406094
I’ve been ogling defythegrid.com recently, their prices look excellent

Never bought from them before but they have an A+ rating on “””BBB”””

>>55406561
Make sure you don't cover the tits

>>55406940
I'm more interested in gold so it'll take me a while to get a full ounce at a time

Any dealers that will let me buy PMs with eth? I have some from forever ago and I’d rather have more shiny.

Only vendor I know about is the Scottsdale mint but was hoping there were more options out there

>>55407168
>BBB A+
Means absolutely nothing. Actually, it’s makes it worse.
>>55407364
Convert to BTC shouldn’t cost more than $6 per ETH, then you can shop just about anywhere.

My 2 gram gold bar came in. Still waiting on other crap to come.

>>55407417
Their prices look really good. But not so good that it seems scammy. They’re also a featured distributor of goldbacks so presumably that counts for something.

If any anons have experience w/them I’m all ears

So I haven't really been on /pmg/ for the past several months. What's been happening lately in the world of gold and silver? The only thing I've noticed is that I can finally find 90% for 20x or lower. I wish I hadn't panic bought a bunch at 22x back in January

new rocks

>>55407692
Yep now is the time to buy

>>55407692
also why is the thread so slow? Did I pick a bad day to look at the thread?

>>55407165
>Where are my Roman chads at?

Just got done chatting with the Third Horseman of the Apocalypse, and he confirmed that only denarii chads are GMI when Famine sweeps the world.

>>55408066
Honestly it's awkwardly slower than usual..

Say wut!

https://www.zerohedge.com/crypto/jpmorgan-bank-deploys-jpm-coin-euro-denominated-payments

Man, even the evilest of banks is making their own shitcoin, we're really in a wild west of currency creation.

>>55408066
>>55408163
Some of the retards who didn't listen to the master smartly gave up.

You bought the highs? Lmao. Ngl it's kind of funny how IQDELET made you guys buy silver at ATHs by simply telling you that paying huge premiums was dumb so you doubled down bought more and bought at ATHs to prove him wrong. Then he ragequit leaving you no reason or money to buy more silver, the prices crashed, leaving you holding a huge bag and a 60% loss. You should hire him to keep shilling for the federal reserve otherwise silver will fall back to $6. Never forget silver was over $26 (you paid $51)((YUGE premiums to ur enemies, lmao)) when he surrendered to your bullying you shot yourself in the foot with a silver bullet. Lmao at least that bullet was worthless. Lmao and here you are wondering why you are all alone. Lmao

>>55408204
who tf is IQDELET? I have been buying on and off for like 10 years and just so happened to get my annual bonus at that time of year. Also, ATH was $50 not $25.

>>55408204
ur so cute iqdelet

>>55408221
>who tf is IQDELET?
A troll poster who had the ironically appropriate 4Chan ID that was iqdelet or something similar.
His posts had the suspiciously similar tone and timbre as HLXSaNT9's.

>>55408328
>Everyone who laughs at retards who pays 88% premiums to their enemies for worthless millenial rocks is the same person

Lmao the tards who lose all their money on shitcoins really are that retarded

>>55408357
You're reading more into what I posted than is there and came to your own conclusions, but okay, enjoy.

>>55408381
I forgot how retarded some of the shills on /pmg/ are. I definitely didn't miss that during my 5 month break

>>55403274
Check out this chart boyos.

>>55408397
Yeah - the new thing is IP switching. Shitposters have figured out how to leverage VPNs and alternate connections to change IDs and larp and samefag. This makes filtering less effective and trolling more attractive.

>>55408204
Jokes on you I bought gold.

Yall have any comfy stack youtubers you watch

>>55408565
Wow....so it's this slow huh

why does spot on platinum and palladium go up and down a lot more than gold and silver spot does

>>55408397
A retard who has lost most of his investment over 10 years to inflation on boomer rocks and gave up easy 1000% returns in the stock market calls a guy a retard for not paying a 100% premium on a scam. Incredible

>>55408487
True. There's only one person here saying buy silver, it's smart to pay huge premiums, give your money to your enemy and you win but they use 27 vpns and backdoor darkness to astroturf. Glad you figured it out and won't get scammed buying outdated metal from the Feds mountain of garbage

>>55407168
I don't trust dealers easily. I've done hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of business with monumentmetals. Never had a problem. They have some of the cheapest per oz over spot.

>>55408671
Smaller market, fewer sales, each has a bigger influence.

>>55408397
>I forgot how retarded some of the shills on /pmg/ are

In case you hadn't figured it out, HLXSaNT9, N/Q087wS and fZyazpRc are all IQDELET being an obvious samefag. He was trolling hard in April and May racking up 30+ PBTID every thread, repeating retarded nonsense about how stackers all pay gigantic premiums and always lose money while he shorts silver ETFs and buys lambos and takes trips to Vail with the proceeds. Very annoying little retard who never posted any proof of anything at all so we suspect he's an impoverished Pole or Sri Lankan or equivalent butthurt poorfag.

>>55408842
desu it's just sad that there's someone out there who has nothing better to do than to troll a thread about something he doesn't like.

>>55408072
cant wait to buy with a silvered Antoninus. retards will be scammed, land will be acquired. glory to Probus

>>55408892
He's our very own Andy Log.

>>55408842
Lmao here's another retard pretending that he's happy to pay 80% premiums and lose money. We all know no one is that dumb not even a junk metal stacker. This clown is IQDELET mocking the premium pay piggies

>>55408892
This clown is a coin dealer AKA premium grabber always filter these shills out

Remember, coin dealers scam newbs over $80,000,000 per day in excess premiums (yes I know we are happy to pay them on hopes we won't be incels someday) but it's still a scam, we (you) will never get that back ( yes I know it's smart to pay huge premiums I ((you)) get it) while our (((your))) enemies will use armored cars to take our money to their bank)

>hate America
>know America is collapsing in 2 weeks
>buy a commodity to get rich and not be incel
>pay an 88% premium to have America logo
>brag on pmg that you lost 88%
>wait 2 weeks
> still an incel
>cry

Made a cheapie tier list in a financial collapsed world.

I came into a bunch of 1967 1 oz kuggerands. Do I just take them to a coin dealer or is there a better way to get rid of them?

>>55408902
Based and merchant pilled

>>55408565
I watch Rafi. He's a Jew but calls out the corrupt elite bankers, just barely not calling them a bunch of pedophile kikes. I like his sense of humor and he's pretty knowledgeable. Check out his his epic interview with a retarded IMF/Wall Street Keynesian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsUbV0McYXM

>>55405202
>>55405018
thanks, and nicely done anon!

I want to sluuuuuuurp, though seeing the numbers in my bank account decrease hurts. How do I get over this? How do I break the conditioning?

>>55409834
The number of ounces I have going up makes me more happy than the number in my bank account going down causes me pain. Much more so. I don't even think of govbux as money at all any more. It's just funny numbers that I can exchange for real hard currency for some reason.

>>55408066
A lot of people got banned a week or two ago, most came back but I wouldn’t be surprised if more active posters got banned. The thread is ridiculously slow

>>55409252
Don’t do it all at once, many dealers will try to lowball you if you come in with a bunch at once. Also any sale amount over 10k gets reported to the feds.

Never accept anything under spot, go to/call multiple dealers. And/or look into selling them to online dealers, they’re less likely to try to screw you on pricing.

>>55409946
Why do you expect all the people you scammed to keep coming here to brag about how much they lost to your scam. Lmao they lost 87% on a surefire investment that you guaranteed would moon in 2 weeks. It's ogre go find a new scam scammer

>>55409965
Lmao you are advising this guy to break federal law. You scammers have no shame

>>55407749
Very nice, you stepped up big time on the slurp. Luv me some kilos
>>55409252
Those are first year, there's probably a nice premium on them
>>55409834
Have a well funded emergency account.

>>55408842
>In case you hadn't figured it out, HLXSaNT9, N/Q087wS and fZyazpRc are all IQDELET being an obvious samefag.

He's back??? Thank goodness. You know what that means. It's time to buy!

>>55407159
How do you think it worked in 1963? You get change in copper pennies.

>>55410248
Losing 68% to your enemies worked out so well for you last time?

>>55410316
That's some common core math right there

Hey guys, serious question -- who am I supposed to sell all my silver to when squeeze?

Started stacking 2 years ago -- I am a futures trader and began buying silver/gold as an insurance policy rather than an inveestment, but then my FIL did some talking and I fell down the rabbit hole, so here I am trading my fake paper money into real money lol.

In the last 2 years I have bought from people on discord and some people on marketplace, the thought of paying tax for this and shipping fees makes me say FUCK that. Did some selling too to some local old head who works at walmart, but he is not enough liquidity for me to offload my entire bags when the squeeze happens.

So where are you guys gonna sell or what are you gonna do if liquidity is an issue?

>>55409976
Nice try, I’m just trying to save him paperwork and undue scrutiny.

He could sell under the 10k amount over a 10 year period for all I care. Never said “don’t do your taxes fren”. Selling bullion isn’t illegal, and neither is structuring your sales to avoid government paperwork. I’d say the same thing about depositing cash.

>>55410698
He's just being a faggot. They're trying everything they can to shit up the thread.
>infiltrating a janitor role
>posting 50 times in /pmg/ about how bad an investment silver is
It's literally the 2023 equivalent of shareblue. Notice how they follow an 8 hour posting block.

>>55409252
You can sell them to SD for 'bid price' + 75 cents.
https://sdbullion.com/sell
It's not a bad deal, but not great either. Use that as your floor.

>>55409252
I’d buy them for $2 over spot and pay for shipping, anyway we can anonymously contract?

>>55410815
God no
It's +15 for gold krugs
67 krugs go for 25oo or more tho, they're pretty rare. So don't sell for spot like a regular modern krug. If they're cherry, they should get graded. Probably a larp tho

>>55410848
Deleted because my dumbass thought there were 67 silver krugs

>>55406094
i've bought many products, mostly goldbacks, from defythegrid.
never had an issue with them and never been charged taxes by them.

>>55410631
>So where are you guys gonna sell or what are you gonna do if liquidity is an issue?

I've sold on eBay occasionally with no problems and without having to wait long to get the "Buy-It-Now" price I'm asking (to make sure that after fees I'm still pocketing over spot). There is also a pretty cool LCS/pawn/trading post shop that pays surprisingly well, I called them and when Silver was at $23.18 they were paying $24.25/oz in cash for generic silvertowne 10oz bars, more than $1/oz over. I thought that was awesome and sold a few so I could go buy a bunch of valuable stuff from a cash-only estate sale to flip. Liquidating physical assets will never be as streamlined and simple as clicking your mouse and cashing out of your digital/paper options, but in my experience as an antique/collectible picker and flipper things like silver and gold are about as liquid as tangible assets get.

>>55410631
>who am I supposed to sell all my silver to when squeeze?
If it's just a shortage of silver and the price soars, you should be able to sell it to almost any bullion dealer.

>>55410848
Smart I didn’t even think of their numismatic value, all the krugs I’ve seen at coin shows from the 80s were pretty reasonable but I imagine the OG ones are worth a lot

>>55410793

Yeah it’s pretty impressive how hard they’re fucking with this thread, they let everyone argue about crypto and stocks and bonds but can’t let <100 autists sperg out about shiny rocks. Really makes you think…

>>55406094
I was skeptical, but they are killing it in the rounds according to findbullionprices.com. On coins, not so much.
Also, don't trust FBP. They have MM as cheaper than Bullion Exchanges, but the price on BE's web site is less than MM.

>>55411499
Sorry, I omitted that I was comparing the price of Silver Maples on MM and BE and BE was cheaper.

>>55411512
bullion exchanges is cheaper but only at like 100 maples and above

>>55407590
Nice trinket box, anon. Tactile and comfy looking

>>55410248
>You get change in copper pennies

If they're not cartwheel pennies I'll be taking my business elsewhere

>>55409946
what'd they get banned for? Were they being retards like fZyazpRc?

>>55410248
so I can pay at this place using my copper pennies instead of silver? Great, I'll get that 100 pieces of fried chicken for $15 in copper

DAAAAMMMN

i was going to get a roll of coins but maybe i want to start collecting these. does apmex actually have the best price?

>>55412041
>does apmex actually have the best price?

>>55412057
i wasn't expecting it but i think they have the lowest price at $173 for the wyoming 50

>>55411936
Copper penny was only valuable because it was ultimately redeemable in silver wouldn’t work today because it can be redeemed for silver

>>55412100
I stand corrected. It does indeed look like the sale price is genuinely low.

>>55412041
Bros.. bottom right corner. Wtf.

>>55412177
this cant be real

>>55412177
>the people responsible for the goldback, an item with 100% premiums over spot, are associated with jews
Pottery. I inherently knew to stay far away from those. It makes sense that Apmex is the lowest price on them too, given they love nothing more than fucking their customers.

>>55412104
Yes I know but this food joint was advertising prices if paid in pre-64 silver and yet they had prices that couldn't be paid using pre-64 silver (ie 7¢.) How do they expect you to pay? Do they just round the price up?

>>55412177
>>55412210
I don't see anything

>>55412237
Just start a ledger. So you want a hamburger and pay 2 Mercury Dimes, well save .8cents on your account so next time you pay one Mercury Dime and have 6 cents in change, next 4, next 2, then you are zeroed out.

>>55412177
A "shield" is all you'll get out of Goldback, Inc.

>>55409247
This is fantastic!
LMAO at Lara Croft tier.

How do I avoid paying taxes and getting the IRS involved when selling silver in the US? From what I understand, as long as I sell in increments less than $10k, it does not get reported to the IRS? So if I needed 50k, I would just do multiple sales, all under 10k, and be good? Or do I have this wrong? I'd be selling to big dealers like APMEX, JM, SD, etc., since it's bulk and I only need spot at this point (I am only selling my generic bullion, but really making any profit since I DCA every month, I use metals as my bank, profit is not the point for me).
>t. Another baby on the way, going to just go ahead and pay off my mortgage, only owe 50k more and have enough metal to do so, so why not

>>55412341
*not really making any profit. Sorry, phonefagging

>>55412341
If you're not making profit, you have to prove it - come with your receipts to show how much you paid. Subtract that from what the dealer pays you. The difference is what you would owe taxes on fro capital gains.
If you are receiving more than $10k in cash, it is incumbent upon the store to report the transaction, because the gov't wants to know what's going on with its fiat. You don't do that. It is also more likely that the store will give you a check. That would be the smart way to do it.

>>55412394
>come with your receipts
Sorry - I mean, keep your puchase and sales receipts in case the IRS audits you (highly, extremely unlikely).

>>55412309
i vill not be buying ze goldbachs

>>55412394
>>55412409
Good information, thank you fren. I do have all my purchase receipts so I would be fully auditable in that event (assuming I save all my sales receipts). I did some rough math and with my DCA between 17 and 26, selling around 22-23 will give me minimal to 0 capital gains, so if they even audit me I'll either pay nothing or very little. I'll just make sure to keep each transaction under 10k so the stores don't need to report it (I assume this helps minimize my chances of getting audited)

>>55407165
from 27bc to 148ad i could party like a
princeps for a hour

>>55412566
forgor foto

>>55412296
Does stuff like that actually still happen? Can you really open a tab at food places still?

I'm just saying this as a kindly, non-FUD fren who has gone through his precious metals phase - until you are wealthy enough to not have to actually worry about monthly finances, invest your money in standard strategic market practices and try to actually return an income on it. We're getting the shit kicked out of ourselves from inflation and I'm really tired of the cope my family keeps pumping into eachother about 'WHEN DA WORL ENDS WE GON HAVE MUNNY TO BARTER WIT'.

If the world literally does end, nobody will barter with fucking bullion. Money will stop mattering. Make your money work for you and try to turn a profit on it. If you are poor, you will not get rich from precious metals.

>>55409247
Elizabeth would have been better than Lara croft

>>55412638
The valuable and rare material that we expend ungodly amounts of energy and manpower will be capital that will allow you to buy back into whatever system comes to replace what we have now. Forget the hyperbole about bartering, the reality is really quite simple. The number of claims to wealth far exceed actual wealth and capital by a large margin. The U.S. bond market is twice the size of the U.S. GDP. This impossible scenario will manifest itself as higher prices as things become more scarce. This is why you buy valuable materials is so you can escape the "claims" and own the "commodity".
I have plenty of PMs as the foundation of my portfolio and I have no qualms about making trades in order to secure profits and income.

>>55412592
The local grocery store has an account, people kids will go there and charge it to the account rather than taking cash or card in. I live in a very small town.
>>55412309
>>55412439
I didn’t know Christians were behind these notes. Makes sense they would venerate Judaism since they practice it in part. Or is it something more sinister?

Here is some stuff to dig into later:

https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/48333/shields-of-judah

>>55412677
Crypto must at-least be tried. There’s been too much fuss about. Then comes PMs or maybe they occur along side each other. Thoughts?

>>55406039
Wait what? Are those Norwegian crowns actually silver?

>>55412725
Pro-Judaism Christianity is not the mainstream for Christianity (at least outside the US.) It started as a uniquely Protestant thing that has unfortunately infected the minds of many well intentioned Christians worldwide. Not sure how people can be so naive though. Modern day Judaism has less in common with ancient Judaism than Christianity does.

>>55412409
>keep your purchase and sales receipts
I think you mean throw away all the receipts to ensure that whatever you claim as the purchase price is the only proof.

Who am I to say that the particular silver ounce I trade in for fiat today was the one I bought 20 years ago or yesterday? I can only presume that I bought them all yesterday and traded them in today for $0 gain.

>>55412742
The financial and economic woes we have are a function of real-world scarcity. Although I do have some crypto, I don't see how adjusting the unit of account will solve the problem of scarcity. As JPMorgan said, gold is money and everything else is credit. This is a profound statement that alludes to the fact that every other store of value we have is a function of bank credit. You trust that your broker has your shares and you trust that someone else will buy them from you at an inflated cost when we all know everything is already leveraged up to the gills.
I don't think anyone is going to be wanting or trusting crypto because it will be just another asset of intangible value that people will be liquidating to buy essentials. And any purchasing power that survives a crash will be transferred out of crypto and into blue-chips and PMs. Money will be changing hands as the market looks for a solution and the ultimate winner will be thus: QUALITY.
Superfluous businesses, investments, marginal investors in real estate will all be liquidated.

>>55412742
Many here believe, rightly so, that most crypto is a Trojan Horse for surveillance and monetary control. Please keep the discussion out of /pmg/.

Lots of us have xmr stacks as well though.

>>55412742
What is crypto? At the end of the day an ounce of gold is a pure ounce of the element Au. What is a bitcoin? A space on a digital 'ledger'

>>55412836
>I think you mean
You do you.

>>55412677
Dude this is the same logic that Martin Fucking Armstrong has used to justify peddling his fake software for decades. 'Isn't this all crazy?? This whole thing is crazy!!! Look at how much debt there is!!! Look at how over-leveraged the whole system is!!! World ending soon! Financial collapse now! System error!'

The tangible nature of precious metals only applies in an economy where those things are tangibly useful. Lithium and cobalt are better analogs for tangible assets at this point, gold and silver don't have a practical value to the average person besides niggers loving they jurlry. A better post-collapse asset utility would be a gridless comms network you can sell to mexican families so they can continue selling phone minutes to their families back in Guadalajara.

>>55412537
>10k so the stores don't need to report
If it's not cash (or any of the other forms of cash per Line 32 of the attached form that you don't have any reason to deal with), there's no filing of this form by the store either.

cheapies acquired.

>>55412915
>The tangible nature of precious metals only applies in an economy where those things are tangibly useful.
it didnt need to be the best conductor when it was used as money but now it has that as a bonus

>>55412762
Top-right one is 90% Ag of the total 20g.
Dunno for the others.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces24336.html

>>55412915
The problem with the system is the exponential nature of debt. To prevent a catastophic default and depression the system requires an exponential amount of spending. And under no circumstances can the economy produce goods and services as fast. You are just too fucking stupid to be anything other than a troll.

>>55412899
>>I think you mean
>You do you.
do you do

China is also losing silver.

>>55412996
the economy was better when money meant something, lots of notes now still have the original writing all bank notes where just a promise to give you silver or gold, now that there's no gold/silver standard the money you have means nothing.

>>55412762
Norway has released a few commemorative silver coins over the years. The top right one and the rest with the lion are the same type of coin. 10 kroner from 1964, 20g 90% silver. You can usually get them from facebook groups/norwegian eBay for spot or under spot. Even some dealers sell them for spot.
The PM market in norway is abit fucked. You can also quite easily find gold regularly for 90-95% of spot if you buy it on FB groups.
A little tip for fellow norwegian stackers: Dont buy silver rounds/medals. Dealers dont buy them back for anything close to spot, and theyre hard to sell privately aswell. I had to sell mine to a Polish guy who refines them in Poland. .999 goverment bullion is easily the best type of silver to stack, along with junk. Only buy rounds/medals if you get them 20% or more under spot.

>>55403274
Any Crusader news?

>>55413353
he ded
rugged

crypto nerds will seethe

>the tranny janny has awakened
Back to the bunker.

Bros I waited on the phone with my bank for FORTY minutes just to see if they would answer the phone. No dial menus, nothing. Except once in a while, they stated some money trivia. One is that the facilities that print our money use 18 thousand pounds of ink every day. The other was that the rights to print currency were extended for collectible coins to be issued and fundraise for infrastructure and buildings, and through special minted coins, the government has raised over 500 million. What to make of this?

Guten Abend.
What is your silver to gold ratio?
Why is 1:1 the best?

>>55412326
I'm glad someone got a laugh out of it. I was beginning to think I missed the mark.

>>55413789
>print fiat money
>sell your printed fiat money for a markup
>profit :p

>>55413929
my plan was 100:1 but getting a quarter of an oz is a little boring..

when should i buy gold and is the best coin the britannia 1oz because of it's security features?

>>55413248
Ah yeah, I actually have a lot of these from my great gramps, (rest in peace ol busser) and I thought they were just non-pm so that's really cool to hear - thanks anon

>>55403274
how can i check if my gold is real without the scanner tool? the seller said I can put it in milk and toothpaste, is that true?

New cheapies dropped.

>>55414294
Who even sells to these banks at these terrible prices anyway

why do they have to put the Klondike coins in a stupid assay.

jannies, instead of banning me, couldn't you convince some of your liberal pals to come meet in person when i post where i'll be? i'm going to be at fletchers again on friday. 6pm again. there actually was a guy who came in, lane next to me, looked at me a bit, shot a mag, and then left. thought that was odd.

>>55409247
ok but how many oz to make it??

also, mintanon is still alive. my desk mat just shipped a couple of days ago

>>55414424

>>55414433
Now he just needs to update his website

>>55414312
I think the banks (mostly jpm) buy high and sell low.

>>55414469
>year after year jpm accumulates
>year after year jpm is the largest holder

anon, they don't become the biggest holder by selling

>>55414439
I don't get it. How can 5 oz be a retirement when that's only $10k

>>55414548
I think historically rome would retire their generals by giving them 500oz silver. That’s where that tier comes from

>>55414548
10k is worth a lot more than 10k when 10k becomes worthless

>>55414439
How accurate is that chart, in non-meme terms?

Gold dipped just below 1.5k today, buy now

>>55414548
The value of gold and silver is heavily suppressed by paper derivatives. In other world, paper representations of gold and silver are put on the market to lower the price. Thing is, the actual metals do not exist, so draining the registered vaults pulls the curtain back on the scam, moon shooting the value of the metals.

>>55414576
i can't buy till thursday. going to get a somali elephant

>>55414572
It's mainly done for fun, but in terms of accuracy it would sort you out for decades. Watch this video to see for yourself how small of a piece of gold is needed for shopping.

>>55414606
Would it be worth buying a combi bar or two

Our boy is going full accelerationist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2UkEsZy7XI

>>55414698
A what now?

>>55414160
it can depend where you are, britannias are so popular in the uk because they aren't taxed

>>55414730
the bars that are like 100, 1 gram pieces. you can split them up into small pieces so it's easier to spend

>>55414757
I'm in the usa

>>55414769
they're probably well known in the us too although eagles might be better, really they're pretty similar and you can pick either for whatever design you like or whatever is cheapest to buy

Did anyone order any of these coins and receive them? They said pre-ordering would end June 9, so figured I'd hear something then or a little after but haven't had any change in order status or e-mail from "BFAC". Did I just lose $117 and dox myself in the process?

>>55414837
why did you pay so much for it

>>55414785
Do eagles have security features?

>>55414915
I wanted the coin. They're $55 each.>>55414785

Sup silver sisters. Took a break from the threads to go shitcoining for a while. If I make it I’m buying a fuckton of silver. Idc if it goes to zero I just love holding it in my hands although sometimes it burns my skin a little. Anyone have an idea why that might be happening?

>>55414932
damn silver is only like 17.90 atm, i thought paying £34.50 for a nadir ounce was bad. If eagles are a similar price to here get them since they're only £30

>>55413929
Austria anon your kino pics inspired me to stack Coronas, have 13 atm

>>55414940
You’re a parasite experiencing the oligodynamic effect of silver.
>>55414768
I say it’s a must if you are a prepped stacker, I’ve believed that but never bought it. If I come into some money, I will. But I’m tapped on gold for a while, silver for the rest of the year atleast.

>>55414944
Those nadir are over priced but I do really like them and I don’t know why, might be because it’s silver in assay and serialized as a 1 over which is so odd. But I like it.

>>55414837
>dox myself
I wouldn't worry about it

>>55414972
it's quite a bit more expensive cause of 20% sales tax on silver, but it is a nice presentation desu

>>55414768
Oh I know what you're on about now. You can do, but I image you will be paying hefty premiums to get them. I personally wouldn't because in a theoretical collapse, people will be using weight scales and XRF thermo machines. Another factor is that people will trust coins more than random pieces of coins, plus the 22k versions are designed for circulation. It's because of these points that the full sovereign is so popular. At 22mm and a quarter ounce of gold, it's simply one of the best to use in fiat fucked world. For your smaller denominations, that's what silver is used for (then copper and nickel if things get really desperate).

>>55414769
Eagle
The answer is always eagles

>>55415029
Do they have a security feature or more than one?

>>55415041
Where the fuck are you buying your coins? From some crackhead in Kensington?

>>55415051
No but I wanted it just if I ever tried to sell it they wouldn't jew me and say it's not legit, I have a bunch of britannias for that reason

>>55415056
Eagles have better resell value and are in higher demand, things you should be interested in when you sell. Security features are cope. And fuck the queen

>>55415063
Thanks anon, will buy a couple tomorrow maybe

>>55415063
the Britannias now have king charles on

>>55415078
Fuck the king too btw.

>>55414729
Rafi trying to get billionaires murdered. This is how your private jet flies into the side of a mountain.

>>55415106
fuck biden

>>55406060
Silver and gold first. Platinum and Pauladium later if you have enough gold and silver to diversify..

>>55415078
>Britannias now have king charles on
Pedocoin

>>55415141
someone should get a jimmy savile coin minted

>>55415141
>Pedo
That would be Andrew

>>55415945
They’re all disgusting looking Britt pedos and that silver ounce will be selling at spot soon. Why do they keep inbreeding when they have horrible genetics?

>>55412997
>>55413248
>>55414252
They're all https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces24336.html

Frens, how to I get the gold out of this old bottle of plating solution I found while doing a garage cleanout? It appears to contain potassium cyanide and some sort of gold cyanide complex, my inner rabbi wants to recover the shiny shekels but is also scared of releasing hydrogen cyanide and getting zyklon'd. Wat do?

>>55416273
Read what it says just above the phone number

>>55414729
>going full retard on physical silver
That's a stupid move.
I'm also 100% on silver, so whatever.

>>55416278
>Read what it says just above the phone number

It appears to say that it's a favorite secret ingredient in Kiddush wine, do you think I should make a stealthy donation to the local synagogue?

>>55416273
breathe deeply through your nose, you'll be fine.

I've re-entered my sperg form which means I'm currently mentally flailing about looking for a way to invest my money. I haven't been in this phase for about a year or two. The last time I went through this cycle I landed on PM's, and as I survey the lay of the land again it seems PM's remain the only logical option as of now.

Stock's are scams
real-estate is too expensive to move in unless you drown yourself In debt
Crypto is all funny money casino ponzi scheme's
Other physical assets seem worse in comparison

However it's hard to stay the course when all of the normies cast aspersions, even more so as I've been trying to go out more and meet more people. The temptation to deviate not only from my investment strategy, but every belief I have becomes greater and greater by the day, and yet I know I must continue on the path I've decided on because to fall in line with the lemmings would mean financial ruin.

>>55416359
>breathe deeply through your nose, you'll be fine.

Sorry anon but for some reason my nose has been pretty stuffed up lately

>>55416451
>The Jew fears the Chad Ag snorter
I can tell you are a gentleman of status, evidenced by your very tiny silver spoon.

>>55416451
whered you get that tiny spoon and where can i get one?

>>55414918

An extra thick reed.

>>55416653
Not him, but they’re used in ammunition reloading

>page 10 bump

>>55414273
Scratch it good with a flathead screwdriver. If it's still gold colored underneath, you're alright.

>>55416741
The chinks are already sending over fakes with the missing reed. Buyer beware.

Bird coins

>>55414958
13x 100 Kronen gold?
if so, well done.

>>55416441
You are correct. Develop ways to disengage from normie discussions about things they don't understand. Just shut your mouth. It is a good spiritual exercise. If they corner you and demand an opinion about something they think they know something about say "I endeavor to follow the path of Marcus Aurelius and not concern myself with matters outside my sphere of influence." Then continue stacking in solitude.

Gday cunts

>>55416653
>whered you get that tiny spoon and where can i get one?

It is from a rare custom sterling silver set made in 1978 by Leonore Doskow, a little silversmithing workshop. You can find small (not quite this small tho) sterling "salt spoons" that are 2"-2.5" long for sale pretty easily.

I see the anti-pm shills and bots have gotten worse since last I visited pmg. For anyone browsing pmg for the first time, please don't take the shills at face value when theyvsay ridiculous stuff like "gold has lost all its value over the past 30 years" or w/e. Gold has outperformed the stock market. Ask yourself why there are so many shills/bots posting blatant lies about precious metals. What would the powers that be have to gain from you not having pm's? That's all I have.

Hello, greetings from s.korea

>>55409247
based

>>55415111
checked

does anyone want this cleaned rm? i didn't realize it was cleaned from the pics

Fresh OC

>>55419679
Very nicely set up and shot, Anon.

>>55419122
That may be all you have, but it is all we need.

>>55406231
>>55406039
Are you me?

>>55414439
It's a long haul from coinvivor to salamander.

>>55419740
Thanks fren

>>55414768
that's what silver is for.
ESPECIALLY at 85:1

Friends, my local Volksbank went cashless.

I was listening to the radio and I heard an advertisement for a company that helps people buy gold and silver.

If that's not a major sell signal I dont know what is

Which of you faggots stole my Reichsmarks?
This vendor is the only one who has them for close to reasonable prices and one of you assholes slurped them all up.
Fuck youuuuuu

>>55420134
Silver isn’t a stock or a shot coin. The same rules don’t apply. At the end of the day, you’ll have not only a valuable industrial commodity but also real sound money, they make money off transactions, you know what else is a scam in your scenario? Any advertisement to purchase something. I saw a commercial for Lysol earlier, they’re trying to dump their Lysol bags on the public.

>>55420134
What is up with the rise of < 3 pbtid anons either telling other anons NOT to buy
PM or nudging anons to sell PM they have already brought... since a few weeks?

You shills do not get to shit up my generals like you do with threads and themes that go against the powers that should'd be.

God, mind, body, soul, self-mastery, precious metals, land, network, fungible cryptos, discernment and similar things.... you run ops against them.. I. Will. Out. You.

For lurkers, PMs are one of the key stones in the foundation for a self-reliant life. Try to posses a few when you can..

As for shills railing against non-paper gold and silver...I see you.

Puts

Oh wrong general

>>55415969
Isn't Charles 3/4th German?

>>55420167
i'm annoyed that they haven't added any more nice ones after i bought all the current offerings. i need more nice rms

>>55420237
The English are a Germanic tribe.

>>55420167
this guy has a bunch for low teens. also a bunch of paper inflation notes and a couple erikas too

https://www.ma-shops.com/berger/

>>55420187
All I'm saying is that major cheapies are on the horizon. Best to save your goybucks for now

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-rules-online-stalker-convicted-making-true-threats-rcna90463

hey jannies, cut your fucking eyes out of your heads

>>55420318
That's the boring ones (not even picrel) and not enough. I wanted to buy big(ger). The guy I wanted to buy from still had 60 2 days ago. Now they're gone. I hope he still has more and just not listed on ebay.

>>55420167
MFW I got most of Trampy's stack on ebay last year.

>80% of all dollars created in the last 4 years
>Real nominal rates
>Bonds rising
>Yields falling
>brics plotting
>China selling American treasuries
>UK inflation rising
Convince me. Why isn't the dollar going to experience a 25ish percent correction?

>>55420966
Because the "correction" will be ten times 25%. There are only two exits from the burning Fun House: massive inflation or massive debt default. Massive inflation keeps the party going longer for those who profit, so I am betting on that one.

>>55420586
>the boring ones
you aren't getting any free ones fren

>>55420966
>China selling American treasuries
Japan is the bigger player there
>usd attractive
>other countries want dollar
>japan/china sell us bonds to get usd
>us bonds do shit
>us companies that got propped up in 2008/09 with bonds start to lose value
>companies increase prices of their goods
I might be wrong about the bond stuff, but if not we're gonna have both deflation and price increases. So a slow boil to a great depression.

>>55421112
What do you mean free? I just want them for ~20% over spot like I paid for the rest of what I bought. Stop buying them. You are literally stealing supply from me.

>>55421211
i've been buying all the real nice ones i can find and was going to give away some after a bit.

>>55419311
as an example. i'll send that one to someone if they want it.

>>55421230
I'm not interested in buying individual coins. I buy dozens at a time. I have literally hundreds of Reichsmarks. I have been stacking nothing but Reichsmarks for quite a while. Why wouldn't I when they're cheap, readily available and based? Sadly, the first two are becoming less true as time goes on. Other Jews are stealing them from me. Fuck.

>>55421122
Japan is interesting. They are dramatically increasing defense spending and that means USD in the pockets of US defense contractors. That is probably the only way Japan can unload its USD holdings with Washington approval. If I were Japan that is how I would do it. Get the Defense lobby working on your side in Congress. Unload those dollars.

hello everyone

>>55421211

>>55421356
>buying
>>55421211
>what do you mean free
...

>>55421356
>other jews are stealing them from me
ope

>>55421552
Hello fren. I had wondered where you had gone. Any new coins?

>>55420966
The world wanted $, the fed gave it to them
Meaningless word
Elevated yields over the past quarters
LMAO
They need the dollars to pay for shit.
Sucks to suck

>>55410793

Got to hustle for those shekels.

>>55420473
You get a bonus point for that quip, but you loose them all because you just outed yourself by using that pic.
Also stop outsourcing your projects to shitty spanish universities trying do push memes without creativity. GreenWhispers (though expensive to hire) was doing a hell of a job.. you pseudokike cheapos.

>>55421848
Yes, actually

>>55421654
Very nice coin, anon. I need to check how many of mine do that. I'm guessing not many.
>>55421707
Reeeee~

>>55422297
well...i could send you one lmao

>>55421415
that might also be a way to hide them trying to pump their own markets with the cash

>>55422465
Not really worth doxxing myself for just one. I'm good, thanks.

>>55422489
By buying yen with USD?

>>55422659
they did print the shit out of their own currency, so yeah

>>55422814
That would make sense for them to do, although not sure Washington would like it. I would love to see Japan get out from under the American boot.

>>55422814
One of the virtues of the Japanese people is that they hate personal debt. Why they have allowed the Japanese government to swallow so much of it is a mystery to me.

bump limit reached, new bread
>>55422902
>>55422902
>>55422902

>>55422851
If they do they'd end up under China's, due to their heavy reliance of Chinese imports. It might just be them hopping out of the pot onto the frying pan.
>>55422881
the average person of each country doesn't pay attention to anything economical or political till it happens to cause a problem, the reason of it getting as bad as it is now is because the bank of japan's actions in the 80's and 90's

>>55414757
>>55416741
>>55418241
Got an eagle with the reed, thanks boys