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55296820 No.55296820 [Reply] [Original]

Why didn't technology free us?

>> No.55296839

>>55296820
Can you slow down on antisemitism please

>> No.55296862

>>55296820
Because we didnt have a decentralized oracle network.

>> No.55296912

>>55296820
Sorry I only read kosher Twitter posts

>> No.55296920

>>55296820
Because in the end it's just a tool, and while most people use it for good, it only takes a few bad apples to spoil the bunch

>> No.55296934
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>>55296820
because they need houses to keep going up

>> No.55296977

>>55296820
when they talk about efficiency they're talking about the capitalist class's ability to more efficiency extract value from the worker. kind of like how farming is so unprofitable that the government has to subsidize it with tax dollars and allow for unskilled retard brownoid H2-A labor -- but no one except the jewish corporations that own corporate farms are coming out ahead. farmers are poor and consumers are actually paying more inflation-adjusted money for food over time. really makes you think.

>> No.55297073

>>55296820
Because when EVERYBODY in the job market outputs more product, it doesn't make sense to compensate based on productivity. Just like when everybody is rich, then nobody is rich.

>> No.55297076

>>55296820
The elite gaslight the public that they are evil and need to give up their “gluttonous” standard of living because they are destroying the planet and are the reason for the suffering of the 3rd world and that we are obligated for the sake of equality, equity and reparations to increase their standards of living at the cost of our own.

>> No.55297098
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55297098

>>55296820

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>>55296820
better question is, why NVDIA's market cap is double what it is while we haven't even achieved AGI to justify it's price. Are we in a bubble?

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Why doesn't everyone just stop working? If the population isn't happy with things, revolt. It's literally that easy.

>> No.55297177

>>55297136
>Are we in a bubble?
Yes and no. Demand has increased because of AI. Look at all the subsets that have popped up in the last two years, not just image, text, video, and music generation, but companies trying to use it to automate drive-trus, etc. However, yes because it is also based on speculation that this demand will continue to increase.

>> No.55297242

>he thinks billionaires will add a couple dollars to his paycheck instead of sending another rocket to space
lmao

>> No.55297256

>>55297136
Yes, absolutely yes NVIDIA isn't worth 1 trillion fucking dollars
disregard this >>55297177 nigger

>> No.55297289

>>55297073
>10 people, each can cut trees with axes with the speed of cutting down and working on the tree so it can be used for something so that each gets 1 tree downed and worked on per day
>10 people, each have the best tools imaginable, they can cut down and work on the tree so that each can get 100 trees per day
>somehow the latter group is not richer since "everyone is rich so no one is" even though they now have 10000% larger productivity and can build huge fucking houses in short time
The mentality "if everyone is rich, no one is" only works when you think purely in terms of fiat money. If there are 100 people and you have 100 dollars, the small things cost 1 cent. If you have 100 people and 10000 dollars, the small things cost 1 dollar.The reality is that the people owning the factories are getting the profit and also the financial "industry" is fucking stealing from everyone constantly so that the 1% gets everything and the rest get shit. If the nation is more productive then the nation should get more products. If they don't, that means someone else is stealing the fruits of the labour. Now of course just being productive aka making hamburgers very fast or waiting tables very fast is different than having real industry.

>> No.55297307

>>55297256
If demand continues to increase and practical applications of AI continue to expand. no u, disregard you.

>> No.55297312

>>55297256
>>55297177
exactly. I do say, it is fair to give NVDA maybe 500m-750m. I rather would see actual money being sent to actual AI and robotics companies, which I've checked haven't been pumping that much.
But what I've noticed are companies just name dropping the AI meme. I've been seeing the most unrelated crap saying "we use AI, but our stock!!" It's like the IoT bubble, where every fucking device has to be connected to the internet.

>> No.55297322

>>55296820
There's a lot of criminals, welfare dependents, and bullshit government jobs soaking up the increased productivity.

>> No.55297333

>>55297307
even if AI demand does grow exponentially that doesn't make NVIDIA worth 1 trillion dollars, not even close.
The AI mania was perhaps the easiest bubble to spot in a while.

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>>55297098
Now let's see that on the log scale.

>> No.55297990

>>55297289
>The mentality "if everyone is rich, no one is" only works when you think purely in terms of fiat money

No. Even in a deflationary money system, nobody has the capital edge if everybody has the same amount of money. On the other hand, everybody's purchasing power is getting stronger because of the deflationary system. Thus, our services will get us less amount of money.
If I get a new machine to cut hair, which boosts productivity, and everybody gets one too, our output and income will not budge since the demand remains stagnant. The only thing that will advance our business is if other companies stay behind and lose customers.

>> No.55298164

>>55296820
Because the theory that we will eventually reach some point where the benefits of technology outweigh the negatives is a mistaken one. For every problem solved by a new technology, multiple others are created. Technology enforces slavery.

The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

>> No.55298191

>>55298164
With every bit of technology comes 1000 Indian call centers using it to to scam elders and retards.
Either nuke India or get rid of boomers

>> No.55298370

>>55298191
You have no idea how much worse it's going to get in the coming decades. There are entire countries just now getting widespread internet and smartphone access and many more that don't have it yet but will later this century. If you think the internet is bad now, just wait until another billion third worlders get dropped into it.

>> No.55298641

>>55296820

Technology is deflationary. It makes goods and services easier and faster to produce, and makes them higher quality. This is why poor people in America today have goods and services beyond the wildest dreams of the wealthy of 100 years ago, not to mention why obesity is what kills poor people instead of starvation. So yes, technology should have reduced the need for work for everyone.

Some claim this is offset by the fact that everyone is comparatively richer, but that's not accurate. Again, poor people today have access to food in quantities beyond the dreams of the middle class of a century ago. You can obtain more stuff with less effort, which should have a deflationary effect.

Truth is that constant money printing has offset that deflation, while unsustainable population growth (mostly from immigration, though the same would have happened with zero immigration if people had continued to have 5 or 6 kids each) have driven up the demand for certain goods that are difficult to make more of: namely, prestigious positions, ownership of prestigious land, and prestigious degrees. Basically exclusive luxury goods. Sure, hypothetically everyone can get a top-flight education online for free, but the *prestige* still belongs to limited-space universities. Hypothetically we could turn swamp into nice neighborhoods, but there's only *one* Beverly Hills. So those prices climb inexorably up, while money printing makes everything else climb up, too.

>> No.55298665

Consumption creep is a real thing. If you make 5K a year you adapt to a 5K a year consumption pattern. once you make 10K you switch and you simply buy more expensive versions of the things you used to before. Better clothes, better sodas, better shoes, etc. That keeps going all the way to when you're so rich that you can buy anything you want. You'll eventually be rich enough to afford a lambo but then you just compare it to vintage lambos or custom tuned lambos and so on. The you can afford yachts and then you start thinking about getting big yachts with bigger pools and then a helipad and so on.

for fuck sake I'm currently in the process of hawving to talk myself out of buying a silver plated copper cooking set that'll runt me 1000 dollars or so even though all that's really wrong with the stuff I have right now is that the handles on my sauce pans are a bit lose.

>> No.55298670
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SHUT IT DOWN MOD!!

>> No.55298771

>>55298641
wrong
people just like bitching

>> No.55299321

>>55296820
Mr Zagarskas is literally denying holocaust. Better start choosing a jail location

>> No.55299345

>>55297782
Making the x axis a log scale doesn't make any sense.

>> No.55299353

>>55296820
They forgot to adopt molten salt reactors.

>> No.55299373

>>55296820
Because a small group of dickheads decided that they want to hoard all of the resources and enslave humanity just because they can't think of anything better to do other than treat their wealth like a high score.

>> No.55299389

>>55298665
Speak for yourself consoomer. In 2018 I was making $14,000 a year street perfoming and wheatpasting concert posters. Now I'm making $143k as a software engineer. I didn't get into dev work to buy a silver plated cooking set, though. I got into it to stack cash and investments. And now, about 3 years into it, I've increased my savings from $16k to $152k and am saving about 71% of my post tax income. I still live poor. Not quiet as poor as when I was only making $14k a year, but pretty damn close. I'd much rather flex a big investment portfolio than cookware.

>> No.55299408

>>55296820
Because of greedy fuckers

>> No.55299409

>>55296820
Technology creates more goods faster. The problem we have is that with that increased supply our population grows faster meaning any sort of supply benefit gained (having to work less) is completely lost because now there is more demand. Basically people need to stop having so many children, but they won't because 90% of them are sub 100 iq retards who can't go 5 seconds without thinking with their genitals.

>> No.55299437

>>55296820
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnMjoitdRRM

>> No.55299513
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>>55297289
Progress and Poverty, by Henry George.
Read it or stay in the dark, IDGAF.

>> No.55299591

>>55299389
>I'd much rather flex a big investment portfolio than cookware.
Of course you do, because you're a flexer. You couldn't add to the discussion so you made it about how much of a better person you are than me an dhow you make a lot of money and how your flexes are better than mine. Because you don't even consider the fact that the reason I'd buy the cookware is because I just want to have good quality cookware that'll help me cook food better, all you see is someone trying to flex and taking it as a chance to flex even harder.

>> No.55299885

Competition still exists between nations and empires committed to diametrically opposed worldviews, and these institutions require you to want to win in order to keep the game going and get ahead. Please get back to work

>> No.55299955

>>55299591
Absolutely based and accurate. Hope that other guy does some reflecting

>> No.55300155

>>55296820
has this guy heard of GDP growth and living standards?

>> No.55300172

>>55300155
> Used to have a single modest income to afford a home
Oh here comes the growth!
> Shared housing
Fuck your GDP bullshit.

>> No.55300189

>>55296820
Cool it with the antisemitism buddy

>> No.55300210

>>55300172
>fuck your GDP bullshit
ah here comes the degrowther. Shave off 20% off of your current income, you don't need it, goy.

>> No.55300235

>>55300210
> Housing up 20%
That's 20% off my income right there.
There's been no growth, just more credit.

>> No.55300244

>>55300235
>There's been no growth, just more credit.
We agree on this at least.

>> No.55300270

human beings are instinctually hardwired to want to see that number go up forever, especially sociopaths (all billionaires)

>> No.55300279

>>55296820
I live in a europoor shithole and the only way you can starve/freeze to death is getting lost in the woods. I know plenty of people that don't even work 40h a week and are doing just fine. His problem is he has to pay for a metric ton of useless consoomer shit every month to cope withhis traumas. Or maybe he is a protestant and feels dirty if he isn't working himself to death.

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>>55296820
Um niggers, spics, and white trash already get everything for free and work zero hours per week.

>> No.55301127

>>55297175
Too comfy with goyflix and vidya

>> No.55301746

>>55296820
50 years ago 97% of world's wealth and luxury was concentrated in white countries.
now the developing world is onboard, you have chinks and poos and niggers getting huge investments and have astronomically rising standard of living because industry loves globalization and paying lower wages.
and it will get MUCH worse when poos and chinks finally manage to disrub the dollar.

>> No.55301764

>>55296820
It did free us, but people still "need" to work, creating all these useless jobs, its more of a daycare than work

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>>55296820
The crypto realm can be a wild ride with its fair share of moonshots and facepalms. But hey, don't let the FUD get to you! While there are flops out there, don't forget there are hidden gems too. Stay sharp and keep an eye out for those IoT projects that have the potential to shine.

>> No.55302397

The bit about "needing to work 60 hours a wee just so we don't starve and freeze to death" is patently false and ridiculous, so the rest of this shit can just be dismissed out of hand.

>> No.55302408

>>55296820
Capitalism was unironically a mistake

>> No.55302415

Because there's overpopulation

inb4 some emotional reaction because the topic makes you uncomfortable

>> No.55302429

>>55296820
The technology is getting there, but we still don't have the resources. Everything is still limited, especially luxuries, and especially when you consider there are more and more people being lifted out of poverty in Asia and Africa and they all want luxuries/Western lifestyle too. Supply is simply not keeping up with demand, so so we have to work to pay the premium to get the stuff we want.

>> No.55302430

>>55302415
it doesn't make me uncomfortable, it's simply not true that there's overpopulation in any sense of the word

>> No.55302436

>>55296820
Because human beings are purpose built for slavery.

>> No.55302468

>>55299591
No. You're just a retard who probably thinks the more money he spends on kitchen appliances the better of a cook he'll be. You have no clue how to get same or better experiences with less. Lack creativity I reckon.

>> No.55302500

>>55296820
Hmm I wonder in the age of scarcity why we need poor people working their asses off to provide us food and heating... Can't quiet put my finger on it...

>> No.55302764

>>55302430
You are aware of overfishing, wars, pandemic, food ingredients

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>>55302408
Capitalism has been around for quite some time, and it's proven to be quite resilient. DePINs can definitely challenge traditional structures and provide alternative avenues for wealth creation and distribution. Ask me how?

>> No.55302812

>>55296820
Ted tried to warn us.

>> No.55302969

>>55302795
Peaq provides increased data automation and optimization capabilities for DePIN. Don't f***inh lie on biz.

>> No.55302987

>>55296820
Because any slight change from what we have now is literally communism.

>> No.55302991

>>55302383
There's major breakthrough in interoperability as Polka and cosmos are revolutionizing the way dApps and DePINs operate, Faggot.

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>>55296820
Because your life is inextricably linked to technology,OP. Normies will soon be harnessing technology to build dApps and physical infrastructure networks that provide value for everyone.

>> No.55303312

>>55299513
This but unironically

>> No.55303580

>>55297990
With ease and more free time, tools can be applied to more industries for profit, I use my hair cutting machine for pets hair and ASMR videos.

>> No.55303606

>>55297098
Who was keeping record of 2000 bce? Your rape product grandma? After popping many chuddies out like rats

>> No.55303607

>>55296820
it has though i spend 5 hours a day maybe tip tapping occasionally on the keyboard and have a comfy life

>> No.55303629

>>55303607
you're missing the point, retard.

>> No.55303701

>>55297782
you realise that doesn't make any sense?

>> No.55303710

>other people have been doing great things
>why isn't anyone paying for my existence yet?

can we just throw all of these kinds of people into a lake somewhere

>> No.55304147

>>55299345
>>55299345
>t. literal retards

>> No.55304221

>>55297175
Hypnosis and mind control. Watch "THX-1138" for a dystopian future or "The Road" for a humane future. That's where we're going.
>protip
These futures happen simultaneously

>> No.55304270

>>55299373
Basically hyperniggers (Neanderthaloids)

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>>55296820
Very Anti-Semetic picrel, OP.

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I'm going to hijack OP's thread but I need some help

>wife gets news job
>everything going well for 3-6 months
>suddenly, layoffs occur and half her team is cut leaving only 2 developers and 1 QA analyst
>the manager says, "fuck it" and quits
>gets new Russian 'girl boss' manager who is completely inept
>micromanages to the extreme and is now outright bullying her employees
>overschedules the entire team with meetings and ad hoc discussions and can't comprehend why development isn't moving at a blazing pace
>cannot 'manage up' and is simply taking orders to try and please her boss
>no plans or timelines -- everything is an emergency and needs to get done ASAP.
>wife is miserable but her team is slowly turning against new manager

Is there anything that can be done here besides quitting? Her entire team hates this boss so I'm wondering if there is some HR strategy to play here. Could they collectively just submit complaints to HR to get her fired?

So tired of women managers. Never again.

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>>55296934
Zoomers are complaining about the price of cars now - I just saw a news report on television about how the Massachusetts registration of Motor Vehicles is swamped with drivers license appointments by illegal immigrants. This was my face when I saw the television

>> No.55306388

Cuck

>> No.55306405

>>55296820
It did. Bitcoin was only 6 cents in 2009. Why didn't you buy it? There was nothing stopping you. A $3 investment would've made you a millionaire in only 8 years. Maybe you should stop being lazy.

>> No.55306416

>>55302408

No it isn't. If you're happy with a tiny shack, no modern utilities and luxuries, basic food, entertaining yourself with nature, you can quite literally live off of $1k per month. Everybody else is working hard to live richly and modernly you don't get to have that just for existing.

>> No.55306444

>>55306405
Scratch tickets are only 2 bucks a piece!!

>> No.55306487

>>55296820
>he fell for the meme

>> No.55306882

>>55302795
by this metric, feudalism, slavery, barbarism, tribalism, total monarchies are more successful, also, this post resumes pretty well: >>55296977 this shitty system dont compensate hard work nor "smart" work, only nepotism and treachery works
>>55306416
>technology is tied to an economical system
rope yourself
>entertaining yourself with nature
whats wrong about this?
>you can quite literally live off of $1k per month
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH maybe if you quit to some third world country, but you need to keep, somehow, your job in US
>nooo, go an live like a hobo
really? this is your best excuse for your pathetic system?
>Everybody else is working hard to live richly and modernly
Everybody else is working hard to live FFY
Also, we arent even considering fourth worlders that literally being slavery work force mantains this shitty system and they cant enjoy this "muh richly and modernly" live that this jewlicker is talking about.

>> No.55307269

>>55296820
because you have no useful technical skills

>> No.55307280

>>55296820
He's right

>> No.55307876

>>55296862
We still don't.

>> No.55308595

>>55299513
>>55303312
Reading it right now. Pretty interesting ngl.

>> No.55308610

>>55296820
Because jews saw the potential to weaponize it to enslave us

>> No.55308716

>>55296820
Technology has undoubtedly brought significant progress and convenience. It has enhanced communication, expanded access to information, and improved efficiency in many areas. However, the extent to which technology can bring freedom is influenced by how it is harnessed and utilized by society.

One reason why technology may not have led to absolute freedom is that it often reflects and amplifies existing social, economic, and political structures. In other words, technology itself is not inherently liberating or oppressive; its impact depends on how it is integrated into our lives and the systems in which we operate.

Moreover, the unequal distribution of technology and digital access remains a significant challenge. While many people in developed countries have benefited from technological advancements, there are still significant disparities worldwide. Economic inequalities, lack of infrastructure, and limited access to education hinder the realization of technology's potential as a tool for liberation.

Additionally, technological progress can have unintended consequences. Issues such as privacy concerns, increased surveillance, and the influence of powerful corporations highlight the need for responsible and ethical development and use of technology. Balancing technological innovation with ethical considerations is essential to ensure that advancements are aligned with the principles of freedom and well-being.

Ultimately, achieving freedom is a complex endeavor that involves societal, cultural, and political dimensions. Technology can be a powerful tool in this pursuit, but it must be accompanied by efforts to address systemic issues and promote inclusivity, equality, and justice. By critically examining and actively shaping the societal impact of technology, we have the potential to unlock greater freedom and positive transformation in the future.

>> No.55309864

>>55303312
No irony, read it you filthy biz bastards.

>> No.55309974

>>55308716
Fuck you chatgpt

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Not one Ted post. 4chun u are dissapoint

>> No.55310898

>>55298641
>not to mention why obesity is what kills poor people instead of starvation
Its because the food is made out of cardboard and goysyrup you mentally retarded faggot. When half the population in America is fed on a diet of chicken-flavored goybean oil with beak and shit particles mixed in it's not because we live in a society of excess.

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>>55296820
Technology will "free" us. If you don't want to work, the CDBC will automatically dispense UBI gibs to you! Play vidya, smoke, paint, hike, do whatever you want.

***Caveat is that I'll still have more, and you will resent it. Human nature has not and will not change. Your UBI gibs will prevent you from freezing and starving to death, but it won't matter when you see me in 911 with a D cup cutie. Even though you got what you wanted, you'll still want to burn the system down. Human nature has not and will not change. Make the most of it.

>> No.55310969

>>55310954
>prevent you from freezing and starving to death
>you got what you wanted
i seem to be in the wrong queue

>> No.55310971

>>55296820
Turns out it was never supposed to

>> No.55310984

>>55310969
That's what the nigga in OP's pic wanted.

>> No.55310987

>>55297098
>tfw didn't buy a house in 10,000 BC

>> No.55311001

>>55310954
>D cup cutie
Pft have fun in sag town, I'll still be in perky B-C ville years later. Given link ever fucking moves, of course.

>> No.55311029

>>55311001
Hoping for a graceful, elegant sag. Good luck with your Link.

>> No.55311108

>>55296820
Why shorten working hours if you can keep the productivity gain from new tech and the long working hours + not raise wages + increase immigration to cheapen labor even more?

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>>55296820
>we imported the third world
>why did we become the third world?

>> No.55311134

>>55310954
Imagine being so arrogant and short sighted you make a deal with the insatiable devil system, thinking he will spare you just because you were a good sycophant, study sadomasochists and you will find they hate your pathetic groveling ass more than the lowest serfs with a spine

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Look if you have to work 60 hours a week to not starve or freeze, you are retarded. I'm sorry but there is no other answer. If you can't contribute something meaningful to society in a few hours a day, they you probably don't have anything meaningful to contribute at all, and only have a pity job.

>> No.55311165

>>55297098
Imagine believing globohomo propaganda meant to debase and snuff you out in time for the brainchipped new slave class, die college indoctrinated dumb faggot/glowie

>> No.55311203

>>55311152
These prideful slaves are nice, can’t compete with the new brainchipped slave class though, as weak and pitiful and domesticated you are, you may actually wake up and grow a pair of balls before you cartoon watching faggot man ass dies after a 100% insignificant and meaningless life. Is it a prerequisite to have a deformed baby cock before you post cartoon little girls as a man?

>> No.55311308

>>55296820
The answer to your questions are

1. MONEY and it’s byproducts, greed and misery. Think planned obsolescence. Soldiers for hire.

2. A well crafted and thorough indoctrination/entertainment system that’s used the knowledge of sciences over thousands of years to control and influence humans. By pushing an egocentric and materialistic culture on the people.

>> No.55311321

>>55302408
no i love working my ass off and giving the majority of my labor value to someone with unimaginable wealth. capitalism is fine, it's the communists who are ruining the lives of the working class

>> No.55311379

>>55311321
Why to you cling to the ideas of others isms ? Have you ever thought of a way of life for yourself? Do you know the western “ capitalist” bankers that funded Marx and the creation of this ideology you promote? Aware they also setup Mao and Stalin? Do you understand how control through limited options keeps you stuck?

>> No.55311414

>>55296820
>Surely in age of rocks that do very cool things, we are working too hard for the amount of bread we get. The goblins must be stealing all our bread.
What a fucking retard.

>> No.55311416

>>55311321
Isn’t china communist? Their working class looks miserable… it’s time for some new ideas

>> No.55311439

>>55311414
He is saying we shouldn’t be working for bread period, you pussy retard

>> No.55311458

>>55311414
>what a retard for wanting technology to actually free us and not have a giant leech class harvesting on us all, then my spineless worm ass couldn’t pretend to be valuable against a true chad

>> No.55311480

>>55296820

This is because humans self organize into competition-based hierarchies, a behavior we developed as we evolved. We form tiered social structures and provide exponential rewards for valuable work/behaviors. The outcome of this is an elite class forms, some who rise up with social skill and others through merit-based skill, who together gain outsized resources. This is advantageous because we want those with valuable productive skills to continue exercising those skills, and we want those with social skills to continue using them to reduce conflict and keep the tribe oriented on goals and collective purpose.

In the modern era we've gone from tribal elders and skilled craftsmen having multiple wives and plenty to eat to uber-billionares who are serial philanderers and have more money than they could spend in multiple lifetimes but the concept is the same.

Everyone is most definitely unequal. This isn't because of capitalism, it's because we're human. The same thing happens in communism, or in socialism, or any other ideological structure. Humans will game whatever system is imposed in them as best they can and they will form a hierarchy. There will always be insiders and outsiders, elites and common folk, and anyone who thinks they can legislate or legalize away these fundamental structures is a complete idiot.

Capitalism is full of flaws, injustices, and inefficiencies, but it best channels our natural behaviors in a way that best raises the standard for everyone and provides the most opportunity for advancement while doing the least damage to individuals.

>> No.55311507

>>55311439
>>55311458
Well then he's stupid. None of those things are related.
>Dude invented cool rock
>Therefore I should never have to work again
Why do these people throw out these moronic words like "Supercomputers" and "smart robotics" like they're magic wands you can wave to make problems go away? Supercomputers are big fancy rocks. Smart robots are big fancy rocks. A supercomputer doesn't identify and figure out how to solve problems in a vacuum. It requires someone to deploy and maintain the supercomputer, and that person needs food.

Wanting technology to free you from labor has literally NOTHING to do with whether or not technology can free you from labor, just like me wanting a cute big tiddie goth girlfriend has no logical connection to whether or not I will get a cute big tiddie goth girlfriend. Sitting on twitter bitching and moaning about how you shouldn't have to work is idiotic. The technology exists. You are still required to work. QED these are not technologies that eliminate the necessity of work.

In fact, the likely and logical conclusion of this observation, as this anon >>55311480 points out, is that we will probably NEVER eliminate the need or desire for labor because the requirement for people to labor has literally nothing to do with resource access. It has to do with competition and status hierarchies.

Think about it logically. By sheer GDP, we can ALL afford to live at the standard of a 12th century peasant. We choose not to do so, and have instead prioritized certain modes of living and products that are needed to preserve those modes of living. Even the existence of fucking insulation in homes is a bizarre modern luxury compared to the historical practice of using wall rugs, fires, and heavy clothing to maintain warmth in the winter. We have collectively experienced lifestyle creep and now when we're told to live on our means like we did 100 years ago we whine about oppression.

>> No.55311508

>>55311480
Chatty gpt

>> No.55311510

>>>>55311480
You disregard that in tribal times the leaders did not have the invention of money which now can be used to hire standing armies and paid liars on tv . This did not exist in ancient times with local leaders.

You seem thoughtful and should try to have new ideas instead of pushing the same miserable dogshit system that has been shit and can only be shit.

Your logic is this dogshit is the best shit so let’s stick with it.

Grow up man quit defending the greedy psychopathic control freaks and their disgusting sycophant opportunists

>> No.55311518

>>55311510
Money is so old that it features in the Illiad. And if we count things like favors and debt as money it's as old as Sumeria.
You're an idiot.

>> No.55311523

>>55311507
Why should the fucking guy who invented anything get rich for eternity and dominate the universe while most suffer, you people suck balls man wake up

>> No.55311530

>>55311523
Are you a bot? That has nothing to do with what I posted.

>> No.55311534

>>55311518
Suck interest dick until your bloodline perishes, worm

Get educated into extinction you dumb educated fool

>> No.55311559

>>55311480
This guy blames the fact that bill gates HAD to profit 20 billion on a “plandemic” and we should just get used to it because “ that’s human and money was in an old book”

>> No.55311571

>>55311510

I don't know what to say other than that money is not a new invention, and neither is control of information and propaganda.

What is your alternative?

>>55311523

Because the company that mass marketed and produced smartphones gave us all the ability to carry computers constantly connected to the internet without wires in our pockets. You focus obsessively on the concentration or wealth, but you ignore the enormous benefits in livelihood and productivity created for the masses as if that company pointed a gun at everyone's head and forced them to buy phones.

>> No.55311589

>>55311507
You point out many advances we have made but use no imagination on what we could be without a pack of psychopathic control freaks leech class that designed this system to be in.

How about those world wars past hundred years very advanced and “civilized” right? You proud of your leaders huh?

>> No.55311593

>>55296820
We are addicted to it, that's why.

The first step to solving a problem, is observing it.

> Try doing nothing for a little bit, let your mind think freely about whatever you want.
> Don't suppress your thoughts, but let them fade away naturally.
> If you have a fear or worry, disassociate from it. Step back, and look at it like an object.
> Ask it why it's there. Give it a voice, pretend it has something to say.
> Separate the good from the bad, the practical from the useless, and the truth from the lies.
> Embrace double think, and find the intersect of truth.
> Let the impractical beliefs fade away naturally, no longer relevant.

You will see two things:
One is a more accurate truth, a more reasonable idea to believe.
The other, is who has been lying to you.

Be aware of how long we look through our black mirrors, and who controls the reflections.
Cure yourself of this media induced schizophrenia.
And make sure you take your real reflection into account.

When everyone is acting irrational, it is everybody's responsibility to rationalize each other.
Game theory requires rational actors.

Embrace the chaotic mind and settle it.
Become a shadow priest.

Shine a light for others, to uncover those covert hands.
Cast your own shadows, and conjure your own beasts.
Show the true nature of those shadow puppets.

Manifest an ego for the public consciousness, then balance it carefully.
Too much, and destroy yourself.
Too little, and be destroyed.

I got carried away. I might be terminally online.

>> No.55311600

>>55311571
Well your advice seems to be bend over and get used to it, not sure what to tell you, worm boy

>> No.55311603

>>55296820
Because get to work wagie.

>> No.55311610

>>55296912
That's an Olive Nigga, dummy.

>> No.55311613

>>55311593
Stop talking to me, I don’t talk to trannies or faggots, thanks punk

>> No.55311622

>>55297782
why would population be logarithmic?

>> No.55311629

>>55311571
Why don’t you address my comment on bill gates profiting 20 billion on the plandemic? Can’t defend that you spineless worm?

>> No.55311637

>>55311600

I'll repeat myself, what does your alternative system/society look like? I'll wait, let's hear your full thoughts on the subject.

>> No.55311647

>>55311613
It's okay I'm into it, please snuff out a cigar with my forehead. <3

>> No.55311650

>>55311637
I just mentally obliterated you, fuck off agent

>> No.55311664

>>55311637
See that’s the problem, you can’t think for yourself

You want me or bill gates to create your world

>> No.55311676

>>55311134
I don't like the system. I like hard work. Imagine being so arrogant and short sighted you completely ignore human nature. Even when you have a Space Car1000 or some shit, you'll still be pissed someone else has a Space Car2000. Then that system will have be destroyed too.

>> No.55311679

>>55311650
>>55311664

Lol

>> No.55311707

>>55311679
Anything other than a system where a billionaire like hell gates makes another 20 billion off a plandemic and people like you champion that, I’ll take any other system for 100 alex

>> No.55311731

>>55311707

Thanks for your detailed and thoughtful analysis anon I'll definitely take this under consideration after I take Mr. Gates big throbbing cock tonight

>> No.55311770

>>55311731
It’s all jokes to an unaware peon like you, sad man you might like real life as a man discovering truth…but most likely you’d crumble so I’ll spare you from more wisdom

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>>55296820
>Why didn't technology free us?
Remember the Jetsons? Economists in the 1960's knew advances in productivity due to automation / computers would save billions of dollars. They assumed this money would get passed on to employees, but Bezos, Gates, and Musk kept all the wealth for themselves.

>> No.55311841

>>55296820
https://youtu.be/LdogID589Mk?t=253

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#4chan the Crypto currency is about to explode, it is fully community driven and the community recently raised $20k to allow #4chan to complete its first dex listing. fomo has not even started yet, this #4chan token will make people a fortune.

>> No.55311874

>>55296820
https://youtu.be/251qoGOqpdk

They only give us enough technology that they can maintain control over.

We may have the internet now to speak, but they are harvesting data and learning us better as well , while everyone gets hooked on it they’ll spring the trap at the right time

>> No.55311902

>>55311571
The focus is on the massive concentration of wealth because it’s NOT necessary for innovation AND breeds greedy psychopathic control freaks with too much power

>> No.55312235

You guys ever think about how a nation can create a group, that's main purpose is to cast shadows in front of influential people with a large audience?

You don't have to persuade the whole country, just persuade the loudest people with the most connections.
Spam an idea in the comments.
Find the games they play and post that idea in the chat.
Even try to show up on their streams and plant a seed in their head.

How could a bot farm manipulate the algorithm, to get certain types of people to see certain content?

Could a bitmap image be created with Photoshop, that inflicts "brain damage" on the viewer?

Food for thought. Ideas can be contagious. Ideological small pox blankets.
Read Snow Crash. Rationalize this idea out of the Sci-Fi realm.
Not everybody realizes this.

>> No.55312253

>>55312235
So like Plato’s cave

>> No.55312272

>>55296820
Fiat is inflationary and works against technology, which is deflationary. That's why you should own bitcoin, as the price of everything will fall against it.

>> No.55312314

>>55312235
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/01/29/armys-information-warfare-unit-monitored-covid-lockdown-critics/
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/inside-the-77th-brigade-britains-information-warfare-military

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/31/british-army-facebook-warriors-77th-brigade

Like this? On top of incentivizing/threatening professionals

>> No.55312548

>>55312314
>>55312253
Yes. Exactly like these things.

That is why you should focus on things nearby, and do what you can locally to influence people.

Leave trails of information for people to educate themselves on what you believe online, small seeds for your ideology.
Take seeds from things you want to consider, toss them if they end up being weeds.

If you hate the "What is a boy/girl" argument, try and twist logic around to rationalize the other side.
If you have strong opinions about orange man, see if you can play devils advocate for the opposing view.

You can consider everything you see without believing it.
Just like how you can believe the "Nigerian Prince" up until they ask you to do something or give up your information.

Keep in mind, people can figure things out about you through side channel.
Keep good opsec, but everyone goes to the doctor and has that one relative who posts everything online.
Every data dump is connected to you in some way.
We're gonna have to deal with being borderline naked when it comes to privacy for the rest of our lives.

The best defense I can think of, is to spam a bunch of fake and misleading information about yourself to muddy the water, but even then that can be used against you somehow.

Start clicking on things you aren't actually interested in?
Visit sites you normally wouldn't?

Idk.

>> No.55312589

>>55296820
It's because we have giant governments we can't afford lmao. How is this not the standard view btw?

>> No.55312595

>>55296820
We are not working to have an ez life
You are working to give your boss and slightly advantage above my boss

And there's always that guy in the school who enjoys working extra hours therefore the human will always be enslaved by the boss abd the bitches

>> No.55312602

>>55312589
Man. If only we had smaller pieces of the country that could focus on a select area, instead of a giant federal one that tries to control more than it can handle. Maybe we could break those up into smaller ones too.

What are those called again?

>> No.55312603

>>55296820
we keep importing people to more than offset any population decrease while our natural resources decline. nothing computers can do about that

>> No.55312636

>>55296820
Why can’t I just live in a pod and eat bugs? Why do I have to fucking DO STUFF

>> No.55312663

>>55298641
>Technology is deflationary. It makes goods and services easier and faster to produce, and makes them higher quality
Have you even bought a normal pack of tomatoes from your generic food chain store? It is unflavored, hormones-pumped garbage.

>> No.55312703

>>55311770
a true schizo showed up on biz huh. shouldnt you be spamming in your xrp containment thread or /pol/? communism would spread that money to maybe a few leaders of the only (not one of two) ruling political party and also without family and good friends you would starve because the system doesnt allow freely making money, thats what capitalist pigs do

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>> No.55312959

>>55296820
You don't need to work to not starve and freeze to death.
/thread

>> No.55313192

>>55310898
food for common people has always been watered down, water in the beer, chalk in the flour etc. a little potassium sorbate is a historical high point in median food quality

>> No.55313295

It wasn't meant to free you

>> No.55313323

>>55297098
fake numbers, it's 1.5 billion max

>> No.55313594

>>55296820
Because AI will always be wielded not by those with knowledge, intellect or skills, but those with power or money.

>> No.55314222

>>55296820
The problem is not technology, or no technology. It's wage labor.
Thinking technology will free people, instead of changing the relationship of production.