/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>55240575
I machine gun parts. Business is great.
Drop shipping faggots can rope, lmao.

>>55240575
ideally you'd have something worth selling. learn a skill and sell your expertise. even better: learn a skill that requires special equipment and sell your services.

>>55240591
>Drop shipping faggots can rope, lmao.
I don't drop ship. I make my own custom homemade items.

Not even a single sale after putting $20 into advertising.

My product isn't even expensive It's like $10.

>>55240610
>Cumboxes
Geez, tell what you're selling already

>>55240610
>My product
>all your eggs in one product
You don't have what it takes. Get in your wage cage.

>>55240610
Just give up, pussy
You're not built for this

>>55241106
>>55241240
I don't just have one. I said items. I have multiple.
No one wants to buy.

Literally no one will spend any money anymore

>>55241301
What are your custom homemade items anon? Pottery? Furniture? What do you do to produce value that I can’t realize from going to goymart?

>>55241301
>I'm not the problem
>everyone else is the problem
Right. Without even knowing what it is you sell, I can tell you either your marketing sucks, or your goods/services suck. You're not going to figure out which one it is by REEEposting on a mountain top alpaca grazing forum.

Starting a business is a scam.
It's all niggers who want shit for free, on the cheap, try to con you in various ways, want you to worship the ground they walk on, or run your name through the dirt for the most minor inconvenience.
I spent more time dealing with the above bullshit than anything else so gave it up.

>>55240610
>$20 into advertising

What is that, like 100 views?
Conversion rates are like a fraction of a percent
Make better ads and spend more (or market organically)

>>55241323
Custom cases for video games with custom artwork for a collection in high quality saturated colors that I upscale and then some custom sticker packs for like $10.

Also I want to get into selling alcohol that I make myself and bottle, but I don't know how I would do that online.

These aren't things you can buy on amazon, or aliexpress at least the designs I'm selling and I'm in the USA. I might get on etsy but if that doesn't work out then I'll just have to come up with something else.

>>55241301
>>55241354
Furthermore (and this is the only spoon-feeding I'll give you), look into SCORE, and use their free mentorship program. They'll help you figure out if it's one or the other, or both:

https://www.score.org/find-mentor

Also, if you're not creative enough to develop an organic marketing campaign, you're going to need to spend a lot more than 20 fucking dollars kek.

>>55241387
>What is that, like 100 views?
No I advertised on 4chan and my ad got like 700 clicks and over 400,000 impressions , still nothing

>>55241409
If you the Etsy route, also start your own website. If you want any sort of visibility on Etsy, be prepared to lose about 40% of your sales in them nickel-and-diming you. Set your Etsy shop up in a way that makes it more appealing to go through your website instead (limited/selective services versus full range of services through your site).

Etsy is a good place to be able to route customers to your own website, but it's a terrible basket to throw all of your eggs into.

>>55241436
Why the fuck are you beating around the bush? What is your product?

>>55240610
>$20
Did you put like 10 paper signs on your nearest telephone poles? Above or below the lost cat ones?

>>55241520
I already setup a website with my ad, Nobody bought anything. My website got over 1500 visits in the first week, not a single purchase at $10 asking price tag.

Guess $10 is to expensive, maybe I should just fucking sell at $5 and make $1 profit margin LMAO.

>>55241536
See >>55241409
retard

>>55241553
If you have your own site, then start an etsy shop, and probably an ebay store. Just develop them in a way that makes it more appealing to go through your site so you can pay less in fees, without actually violating their fee-avoidance policies.

Sounds like a sort of niche thing, so you won't likely go brick and mortar, but even with e-comm you need to go to where your customers are. If your marketing strategy is to spend a couple of dollars on message board ads, you're just not going to see the kind of conversions you're hoping for

>>55241553
Bro you are selling artistic stuff with no reputation, what did you expect?
Even most the greatest artist of history lived next to poverty. Starting a business (even outside the art category) can take years to slowly ramp up and become profitable. You really out here bitching because you didn’t become an over night billionaire by spending $20 on advertising?

>>55241626
>You really out here bitching because you didn’t become an over night billionaire by spending $20 on advertising?

No I'm bitching that I didn't even get a chance to sell my products and send them out.

NOT A SINGLE SALE IN OVER A MONTH OF ADVERTISING, NOT ONE $10 PAYMENT.

Businesses are scams, It's all fucking FAKE. You can have the most attention, the most clicks but nobody can fucking afford $10.
It's all a scam

>>55241409
>I sell crap
I think I found the problem.
Look up:
Value Proposition
Competitive Advantage
Product - Market Fit

Post back and tell me what you found.

>>55241663
>equating fidget spinners to my products
>to custom cases and stickers I photoshop and design myself that you can't find anywhere else on the internet except some chinks on aliexpress that MAYBE will make a halfway custom product for you in 2 months of shipping time

Fuck you

>>55241693
Cry harder faggot. Have you considered that noone wants your shit because it is shit? Of course you haven't. You are so so special and the whole world is just misunderstanding your unique genius.
Deepthroat a shotgun and be a good sport and do not forget to stream.

>>55241746
>starting a business is easy it just works
>also your products suck and you should kill yourself

wow great, I really believe you have a thriving business and it isn't all just cope from some psyop.

>>55241626
>bro selling is easy just take my cope advice
>actually is takes a quadrillion decades and takes more luck than the lottery

>>55241693
But how many people are in the market for what you are selling?
How many people are already doing what you are doing? (These people are your compilation and if they have been doing it longer then they have already built up a customer base that is less inclined to look elsewhere).
You are complaining about this being unfair, sure feel however you have to feel, but you are pitching to a tiny market with lots of competitors.
If you want to succeed then you are in for the long grind to gain recognition and reputation, especially with anything in the art world. It is what it is dude, either keep pushing forward and eating shit till you get somewhere, or ease off, relax and just work a job.

>>55241773
>But how many people are in the market for what you are selling?
None that I've seen.

Yea there's people that make cases for video games as in recreation, but there isn't anyone that I've found that is making cases for indie PC games that have no big box release.

it's all a cope though I spent so much time, $200 and still no one will even make a single purchase of $10 even with 400,000 impression, 1500 views on my website.

It's over. The only people who have businesses that work are money launderers, chinese factories on amazon or scammers.

Businesses can be profitable, but with the following conditions:
> Thou shalt need marketing skills, PERIOD.
> Thou shalt NOT fall for the following meme business models parroted on YouTube: Dropshipping, Print on Demand, Affiliate Marketing, Social Media Marketing Agency, "Digital Real Estate bro", Ebay, Amazon FBA, "muh amazon killers like bonanza, mercari, etc."

I've also tried a few businesses and failed each of them - all of them because I fell for a meme business model + didn't know jackshit about marketing.

Also, your marketing budget needs to be massive + you need long term planning (at least 1-2 years) before turning a profit. You'll be losing a lot of money before then, you just need to hang in there with a soul crushing 9 to 5 until you start turning livable profits with your side business.

>>55241766
Starting a business is easy. Any idiot can have an idea and register a business and launch a website.

Whether or not that company is ultimately successful depends on much, MUCH more than just your passion for whatever goods and services you are trying to sell.

>>55241815
>all of them because I fell for a meme business mode

I didn't follow any of these.
I've used ebay and I know because they take fees out the ass on expensive items.

I decided to make my own website, still nothing.
I would've been happy with a single purchase, just one to show that I could sell at least something on my own.

NOT A SINGLE PURCHASE.
How are businesses supposed to make money again.

And yknow for a board called "business and finance"

I'm hearing some shitty business advice.
Businesses are a scam, Fuck you all.

>>55241845
Remember what I said about marketing budget.

One reason is because EVERYONE and their dog wants to (and probably already has) run a side business because YouTube + tiktok told them to do so while they were locked away at home during the pandemic.

In order to beat those schmucks, your marketing budget needs to be massive to drown them out. Not only that, but your marketing skills need to be ON POINT to stand above the extreme saturation online.

Before any of you counter me with, "but if it's a side business like trades bro, who cares about those onlinepreneurs bro?" - understand that you still need beastly online marketing skills to succeed with a service based business in the trades. It's simply the cruel reality of today's labor world. You need to live and breathe social media to succeed.

Now, back to your issue. You also made a website without a single purchase - I also suffered this same fate with one of my businesses. The problem is that you aren't driving much traffic to your website to begin with (an issue with lack of advertising/marketing skills) and as with any ecommerce thing, conversion rates are always going to be low no matter how good the product + marketing. Hell, even a 5-10% conversion rate is quite good.

Ecommerce is brutal, even more so these days thanks to the pandemic.

>>55241792
I’m an accountant, I’ve worked in practices. So I’ve seen behind the scenes on a ridiculous amount of business, I’m telling you that what you are experiencing is about standard especially when you are starting out. If you want to make your business into something valuable you are almost certainly going to have to eat a stupid amount of shit before it ever even shows promise of paying off.
I’ve seen people that run small art businesses limp along for years before ever seeing a profit.
If you aren’t starting a business because it is some inalienable drive within you to build and own something of your own then I can honestly say just get a job, work reasonably hard, invest some of your earnings and have a chill life.
There is no hate from me dude, I’m just speaking from what I know to be true in most cases.
(On a side note, I’d say follow the beer/alcohol path if you have any skill with it. It’s a much easier sell, start at small markets and only move online as people start to recognise your branding).

>>55241859
Hey, I actually gave you sound advice, nigger. Once your autism calms down, re-read my posts, and let them marinate.

>>55241859
You are seething so fucking hard. If you're getting zero sales on a niche but fairly inexpensive product it's because your either targeting your advertising wrong or nobody really wants it.
And for the record, I and probably many other anons have had the same idea before since we all grew up seeing loose cartridges and those Gamestop generic label boxes and thinking how shitty they are and wishing there was a way to supplement case-less games, but at the end of the day I don't care quite enough. I think there's some promise to it though.

>>55240575
Have you tried putting your ass money into an index investment platform like AstraDAO? Stop this bullshit of a noise.

>>55241569
Says the retard who makes custom game cases when people buy all their shit digitally. Maybe if you opened shop in 2005 you'd be successful.

>>55241965
>AstraDAO
HELLO SERS ONE DAL MAKHANI 2 GO WITH MANGO LASSI THANK YOU SER

>>55241952
Fuck you

This is why I'm going to continue neeting.
Fuck this gay earth, there is no hope.

America is dead, There is no future.
Can't even make a successful business
Can't succeed anywhere.

>>55241693
Just because you can't find it anywhere else doesn't automatically make it a good product. You can't find shit my own personal ass anywhere else on the planet but that doesn't mean people will buy it.

>>55241986
The first two search results are "customgamecase" and "retrogamecases", are you one of them?

>>55242003
No.

Retro cases are completely different from what I'm doing, and as you can see already saturated.

Businesses are dead, there's no point in trying anymore. Everything that has already been done is already owned by someone.

It's over. Fuck you all.

>>55242022
>as you can see already saturated
No I fucking CANNOT see that. Most consumers can't either. Was the entire premise of your business hinging on the color quality being marginally better than the established players? Did you think writing them off as chinks justified an Amerimutt doing it?

>>55240591
what does your shop look like? must be a big investment, no?

>>55242056
No it was hinging on doing something different from these retroconsoomer retards reselling printed color case art ripped from thecoverproject.net

But sadly unique ideas get you nowhere since businesses are fake and all scams.

>>55241986
>custom game cases in an increasingly digital marketplace
>why is no one buying my products?
This is 100% a niche idea anon. One that could possibly be successful, but your passion for it is clouding any rational judgment you could have about this topic.

Most gamers don't give a fuck about cases, let alone custom ones, but there are some people out there that do care about their collections, and you have to market to them. Your customer base is not going to be the average gamer/consumer.

You are starting off targeting a small percentage of the gamer demographic that would care about such a product, but your position is that the general consumer is the problem?

Circling back to my original premise: either your product sucks, or your marketing does. I gave you a link to a resource to help you figure out which one it is, but if you don't want to follow good advice, then I don't know what to tell you.

>>55241693
>Thinking your stickers are better then fidget spinners

Top kek

>>55242095
>>55242056
I just deleted my website, fuck you all. Fuck this gay earth

>>55242113
Are you fucking retarded cunt? You just put an ad on fucking 4chan, you need to target your ads better if you want to have any success with conversions. These days paying for ads is pretty much not worth it anyway, you have to find ways to do it organically. Start up an Instagram page and a tiktok and start plastering your products up there, watch some yt vids about how to optimise and just learn from experience. A month in this game is nothing faggot, get ready to get kicked in the teeth a whole lot more if you want to see any success.

>>55241986
>America is dead. There is no future.
>Can't even run a successful business.
>Can't succeed anywhere.

It seems like you've experienced significant losses in every business venture you've been involved in. I'm also losing a significant amount of money in a laundry business here. It doesn't make sense to make money from the AstraDAO index investment platform and then lose it all in a modernized laundry business. This world is frustrating.

>>55242145
>It doesn't make sense to make money from the AstraDAO index investment platform
Shut the fuck up nigger

>>55240575
Have you tried making a mobile app? I made $200 off a $0.99 soundboard once.

Op is top tier trolling
Why peeps replying to such obvi bait

If you're so okay with neeting and you're actually selling shit then why not give memecoins a chance? I started doing furry porn but nobody bought my art because i didn't quite enjoy what i was doing and it showed in my artworks. Then, one day i found out about crypto giveaways and started farming them. You wouldn't believe the amount of money you can make with these things, meme competitions, thread competitions, they usually give you like 50 usd but if you make a lot then you could be making almost 1k per day, it's insane.
Last one i did was of $crooge and i won 500 usd on a meme competition. If the market isn't giving you the good eye, try to take advantage of it

>>55241409
>>55241647
>>55241693
>>55241792
>>55241845
>>55241859
>>55241986
>>55242022
>>55242095
>>55242113
>I'm not wrong, the whole earth is wrong
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

>>55240591
Don’t tell me, you 3D print Glock switches?

>>55242598
So nothing is worth anything anymore and everyone should just give up and not even try to sell anything?

That's how you sound.

The truth is nobody wants to pay for shit anymore and are constantly spending on amazon because it has 90% of everything.

The last 10% is already saturated and capitalized on by big third party websites.

It's over.

There's no point in starting a business, It's all a scam

>>55242681
>I can't launch a niche business
>off of $200
>and $20 in 4chan ads
>my takeaway from this experience is all businesses are scams
>not that my marketing sucks
>and definitely not because my product sucks
>just trust me it's super cool and everyone should be as passionate as I am about it out else it's super duper pointless
>don't compare my stickies to fidgie spinnies
>I'll just go back to neeting
I believe I've successfully boiled down the finer points of your posts itt. Be honest, you were never serious about this.

>>55242539
Get the fuck out of this thread you despicable piece of shit , go shill your shitcoin somewhere else.

Thank you OP for this wonderful thread, bait that makes me feel less pathetic of a person is always appreciated. Keep lowering that bar for me, please. My ego can't get enough.

>>55242113
lmao gay ass pussy

>>55240591
you fire a machine gun at various parts?

>>55241693
>No U
>I sell custom boutique artisanal stickers
Again, what is your value proposition, competitive advantage, product -market fit?

OP these people replying don't know what they are talking about. What you are saying is true, a lot of the times people just don't buy things. There is some way to push through, you have to find it I guess because I don't know what that is.

>>55241972
wtf even is a custom game case? for dvds? why would anyone buy that. if you're good at artwork just do commissions there are millions of people, myself included that will buy art if it's good enough.

fuck man, we all work from home now, we are all single men because the women only want to fuck black guys so all we do is jack it and play vidya. we have nothing to spend our money on and it would be nice to have some bespoke art on our walls.

get it done jeez