/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>55013567
>15 years of day in day out use, culminating to me taking 400-500 mg of edibles a day
That's like permanent brain damage at that point.

>>55013626
less damage than eating at mcdees
factually correct and self-verified anecdotal observationally exclusive studies confirm this

>>55013567
>weed smoker
>reddit spacing
just kys.

>>55013567
>culminating to me taking 400-500 mg of edibles a day
I don't believe you. you need a fourth of that max. shit, an 80mg brownie lasts me multiple days

>>55013567
>God please help me
God is the only one Who can help you. You can do it through, with His help. I was a huge pot head for 20 years. Smoked an ounce a week at my worst. Clean now for over 2 months. I got 8 months clean last year but fucked up and relapsed for several months again. Showed me I can’t do that again. I won’t do it again. Fuck weed it is not harmless. It is fucking up your brain, your immune system, your digestion. It is harmful and addictive. I believe in you anon. God loves you and so do I.

>>55013644
>less damage than eating at mcdees
Saidly you're not wrong. Cannabinoids have their benefits to an extent, in moderation. Same with alcohol. But 0.5G of THC a day seems like a permanent burn out that can't be recovered from.

>>55013567
I'm in the same boat brother. I wish I had something insightful to say, but I'm approaching 20 years of green jew and it doesn't get any easier to kick.
Part of the problem is succeeding in spite of it; if you rolled high enough for your character you can just coast by your whole life in dope mode and still outperform every normie around you. I've often suspected keeping more competitive company might be impetus to quit, but it's hard to find overachievers that want to hang out with a stoner.

just stop buying weed you weak willed cucks
>boo hoo but then i'll be depressed
seek therapy

>>55013567
look at those troll thumbs

>>55013733
>20 years of green jew and it doesn't get any easier to kick
Switch to a non-psychoactive cannabinoid. CBD is probably the best, but CBG is better for daytime use. I dry herb vape CBG bud casually, eventually the cravings got under control and I stopped for a while. Now I smoke socially, but alcohol cravings and dependency are far worse. I'd rather smoke weed every day than drink every day.

>>55013804
I know how I would quit, if I wanted to. The problem isn't a lack of information on my affliction, but the lack of motivation or drive to deal with it.
Life's too comfy perhaps.

>>55013567
lmao your brain already is partly destroyed anyways, have fun being a retard for the rest of your miserable life.

>Switch to a non-psychoactive cannabinoid. CBD is probably the best, but CBG is better for daytime use. I dry herb vape CBG bud casually, eventually the cravings got under control and I stopped for a while. Now I smoke socially, but alcohol cravings and dependency are far worse. I'd rather smoke weed every day than drink every day.

>>55013567
start smoking meth instead, its like the anti-weed

>>55014035
>he doesn't smoke to improve trading skills
NGMI faggot.

>>55013626
I Def got brain damage but shrooms counteract it. I'm able to be a high level engineer for a satellite company with the brain damage which is why I'm saying I can get rich if I just quit
>>55013644
Probably yhe same
>>55013673
I should huh?
>>55013693
Tolerance...
>>55013696
God has actually helped em a lot in life but didn't do a dent in my addiction. Same with shrooms
>>55013710
Good thing I am smart and got iq points to spare. It bascially tend em into a normie. The brain can recover though. Btw I never drink alcohol so I got as much brain damage as the average weekend beer enjoyed
>>55013733
I stopped haning out with sooner freinds. I might be a stoner but I still read and watch documentaries and think..
>>55013771
There is no therapy for chemical depression
>>55013804
See I end up taking so many hits of the cbd that I got a headache
>>55014041
I smoked it a few times. I need weed to come down off it


Anyways today is day 1. I got sum kolonopin to fall asleep. Wish me luck..

>>55013733
>>55013804
>>55013868
have you tried just not smoking weed?

>>55013868
>the lack of motivation or drive
I wonder where that comes from.

>>55014096
CBD =/= THC. Big pharma wishes they

that's the final bottom, hope your ready bobo ;) (screen cap this)

>>55014087

Klonopin is literally 10,000x worse. You think you are addicted to WEED??? Klonopin will DESTROY you.

>>55013567
Based anon. I was also smoking all day for about 15 years... I am now over 1 month sober, and plan to stay that way.
WAGMI anon.

>>55014196
Did you get the dreams and night sweats?

Im in the middle of quitting now. I have an edible once in a while but damn i am SOAKED every night i dont smoke from the dreams and sweats lmao

>t. 9 years of 0.5g-1g a day of top shelf + edibles and dabs

>>55014190
I had a bottle with like 20 mg sitting in my room for over a year now. I only take it when in emergency situations when I need to sleep. I wasn't addicted to weed fiest 7 years of smoking it and thought it wasn't addicting so I kept smoking. I know k-pins are addicting so I won't do them more than once in a while

>>55014303
Yup, same, night sweats and intense dreams(for the 4-5 hours I can actually sleep). The hardest part is the mood swings and no appetite though

>>55014196
At what point did it start to get better mentally? At what point were u able to sleep? At what point did ur attention span come back enough for u to read???

I smoke 3.5g of good shit daily

I dont have any issues if I cease for a week(happens a couple times a year, lol)

Retarded larp/troll thread. Weed literally does nothing to you.

>>55013673
this
fuck redditors

>>55013567thats a heavy fucking daily dose. Ive been smoking for 14 years but on probably a 3 days a week single bong hit. I wouldnt be able to function on 400mg a day

>>55013567
Good job. Keep going and remember to meditate or relax with a deep breath when you get stressed

>>55014303
>night sweats?
your body is going through withdrawal symptoms

hit the sauna, it'll take a week of quitting cold turkey til it's out of your system
won't feel the brain fog clear for 10-14 days (the brain fog is something that is always there if youre a heavy smoker)

t. quit the devil's lettuce a couple months ago

>>55014087
>God has actually helped em a lot in life but didn't do a dent in my addiction
God cannot help weak vessels, demons like stoners because being high literally opens up doorways.

Repent, fast (no food) for 24 hours, live as closely as you can to the 10 commandments. God can clear any addiction but you need to meet him halfway

>>55014087
visit /x/cdf or you're a pussy

>>55014087
>kolonopin
you're either a retard or a white hating jew shill. if the former stick to weed and stay tf away from benzos. you have been warned

>>55015045
>the brain fog is something that is always there if youre a heavy smoker
Checkout psilocybin shrooms, lions mane and niacin. Those work wonders for brain fog but the shrooms by themselves will do the job too.
My mom started microdosing both lions mane and a cubensis variety I grew. She said she felt her brain fog get better within days, especially once she combined the lions mane. She’s been smoking weed since the 70’s

>>55014693
Yeah, wtf is this thread? I've been smoking daily, (off and on, but much more on) for 20 years. I've quit completely for months at a time several times and never experienced any of these negative effects. Currently I've cut way back to like 0.1g once a month or so, and have been that way for several years.
I'm not gonna say it's good for you, or that it's not addictive at all, but it's definitely less addictive than literally every other recreational drug including caffeine.
The not dreaming (or at least not remembering dreams) when you smoke is real, and I can believe some people could have reduced appetite when quitting, (I never had that problem) but other than that, the only "withdrawal" symptom I can believe would be just a mild boredom or apathy for a few weeks.

>>55017060
Correction: Its less addictive than every other recreational drug besides psychedelics. I don't consider those to be recreational or addictive at all.

>>55013567
quit weed retard. dont faze it out dont think about it, DO IT NOW FAGGOt

Weed is gay and boring and for niggers, it makes you comfortable with mediocrity. Abuse uppers and alcohol like a white man should.
t. 29 yr old owner of a multimillion dollar business

>>55017508
Why did you feel the need to add your age and that you own a business? You some sort of woman?

>>55013567
I'm 2 months sober yesterday. Best thing you can do is get rid of your paraphernalia. Don't have it around. I assume you smoke it, so transition to edibles or tincture for a few weeks to stave off any sort of sleeping/eating issues. The key is to taper down steadily. I won't lie, it takes willpower and dedication, but you could say the same for everything worth having in life.

Journal your thoughts and reflect on them. It does get easier after a couple weeks. What helped me was reading recent studies on the effects of THC on the brain. Modern weed has such high levels that it's like a different drug compared to what our parents smoked. The CBD levels are also lower, depending on what you're buying. CBD counteract a lot of the I'll effects of THC so you could also start there. Read about the effects of smoking on the lungs, too. Scare yourself into quitting.

I have intermittent tinnitus in my right ear since I quit smoking. It comes and goes. I dealt with some pretty severe anxiety for a while after quitting too, but it's largely gone. This is coming from a guy who never believed anxiety was really a "thing." I will say that while most issues have lessened or gone completely, I do still experience issues with remembering words. I quit for 10 months a few years ago and that issue went away in that time, so I'm hopeful it will go away this time too.

I suggest quitting caffeine while you get off the green jew. I found I was much more sensitive to it and it made me anxious. If you don't already, dive into exercise. You will need something to take up the free time you're going to regain by quitting.

Good luck and I wish you well. To everybody saying weed doesn't do anything, you're just plain wrong. Smoke enough and you will see.

I never understood people who packa gram of weed in a joint.
Such a waste and for what?
I used to amoke 2g in a week and thought that was plenty.
Moved abroad where it's illegal and so have not smoked in 4 months now. Don't plan on doing it while living here.
Smoked for around 10 years and it is a cure against boredom in a bad way.

You need to abandon all your friends who smoke. You need to go to a new place where you can't get weed. You need to cut out all your weed related hobbies like listening to Music, Vidya and other drugs.

It is doable. You probably won't sleep well for a week and whatever sleep you do have will be filled with insanely vivid and occasionally disturbing dreams.

Everything will be slightly worse. Movies will be boring. Music will sound shit. Old friends will be annoying.

The worst part is that when you are off weed you will never be able to shake the nagging thought that weed has rendered you slightly irreparably retarded.

Good luck.

Blaming weed instead of yourself for being a faggot is pathetic cope. If you're a loser with weed you're going to be a loser without it unless you can accept this fact. Otherwise you're jutt going to blame your mom, dad, the Jews (they deserved it tho) or whatever else is convenient.

Just literally don't smoke. It's that easy.

>>55018328
….has the weed rendered us slightly irreparably retarded or are we tripping?

smoke hella lot for 4 years straight then quit after the the good old psychedelic bitch slap

>>55017060
>>55017086
Literally every retard that says dumb shit like this is how stoners become stoners.
>bro it’s not addicting you can stop at any point
>why don’t you guys just like not get addicted lmao?
Yeah no shit it’s not like a benzo or alcohol addiction but you can still smoke long enough frequently enough to develop dependency on it, and I’ve had the same withdrawal symptoms a lot of these anons mention when I quit way back.

>>55018357
The thing is you will never know how brilliant you would have been without wasting years on the couch indulging in circular philosophical musings and listening to music searching for a deeper meaning that simply isn't there.

The idea that you could have been better is so hard to bear, so many experiences not lived, so many opportunities forsaken. I now look at stoners with disgust. Best not to think about it too much.

Ultimately I am happy with where I am at now.

>>55018425
Fair enough. No point to let the past drag us down. There’s only forward.

>>55014502
> I can quit any time, bro

>>55014087
>chemical depression
Depression isn't real, just quit that shit already. Your life is probably dull and lacking of inspiration, so you rely on weed/psilocybin to give it colors instead.

>Btw I never drink alcohol so I got as much brain damage as the average weekend beer enjoyed
weed is worse than alcohol

>>55014381
It's a very slow process, but it will get better with time. Exercise, good food ration, positive activities will speed up the process

>>55013567
Nooooooo

Keep getting high. Take a week off and go back to getting stoned. Weed is good for you.

>>55016674
>bro take another drug to get off x drug
You'd be better of getting coffee and some nicotine with otherwise normie lifestyle than ingesting more substances that radically change your brain chemistry. Your brain is trying to normalise to the baseline after years/months of abuse and instead you want to deprive it off that with some new drug.
Lions Mane is ultimately best supplement for brain, but it's not optimal to just hop on another pill for life

>>55018328
>>55018189
These are the type of people who gamble their house away and drink until they have 0 cents in their pockets. Don't follow this advice unless you're some brainlet that can't stop himself from running to your dealer 24/7

>>55018336
>Just don't say the n word, it's that easy
But I enjoy it and will continue to in appropriate situations, nigger

>>55018376
Reading comprehension. Work on it.

>>55014087
You dont need to sleep. Like just be awake untill you drop of exhaustion. It like you fucking faggots in here dont know hardship

>>55014381
At two weeks I started sleeping better and no more night sweats. It’s a long slow process. I’m sober now for 2.5 months and that’s after a three month relapse following 8 months clean. Still not normal. Still irritable and depressed sometimes, but I also have moments now where I feel real joy and happiness and I’m mentally present to experience it. I was really addicted to this shit for over 20 years, so for me I know the time frame to be “normal” again is years not months.

>>55020728
I'd like to ask all you guys who are reporting night sweats and anxiety if you had been using these newfangled vaporizers. I have a working hypothesis that perhaps these are more addictive than smoking or eating. My personal experience makes it seem like they are more like "hard drugs," with something almost similar to a "hangover." phase."

Does anyone just smoke on a Friday night after a hard week?
Seems to be either people make it their lifestyle or completely against it, no in-between.

>>55020978
many but they are not vocal attention seeking fags because you do not cry about drinking on weekend after work

>>55020978
That's what I do. Except even less than once per week.
To clarify my opinion that I stated earlier, I think it can be psychologically addictive if it is used enough, often enough. But I don't believe smoking natural weed is physiologically addictive like alcohol or opiates, where a physcial change in your body due to withdrawal can be measured. Such effects have never been clinically documented.
I am not advocating anyone use it. I just think it is less dangerous and deleterious to your health than say alcohol or cigarettes.
I know that people who used to smoke a lot and just quit can be surprised at remembering dreams again. But I think if quitting gives you "night sweats," it is because the weed was covering up some other psychological distress, not because its a symptom of "weed withdrawal." I think its just your brain is telling you that you need to fix something else in your life.
But even natural weed does seem to affect different people very differently though, and there are also significant differences between different strains and different growers, so your mileage may vary.
Like I just mentioned, I am quite suspicious of these new vape things. I wouldn't be surprised if something else gets put in those to make them more addictive.

>>55017060
zoomers treat quitting weed like its heroin withdrawal or something.

>>55020951
I didn’t use vapes all that much, but I have used them. They are way more addictive than plain weed. I agree with your hypothesis.

OP is a faggot jew shilling. Nothing about weed is jewish. The jews hate that the white man is a the true cultivator of great weed and they can't control it.

Best they can do is FUD it because they can't control the growth of it.

I smoke weed at least 7 times a day and made 500k last year.

If your already depressed, you should not be smoking trees.

>>55020714
Being less retarded, work on it.

>>55013567
weed is the loser's drug
coke is the winner's drug

>>55020951
No, flower is just as potent these days. I had all the physical withdrawal symptoms and I only smoked flower

I got severe cancer, and weeds literally the only thing that keeps me from an heroing daily.
The amount of drugs I take on a daily basis absolutely murders my stomach, without weed I couldn't even post here.

>>55013567
>I was able to make it to 6 figures being braindead and depressed and spending all my extra cash on top shelf.
So you bought a shitcoin and got lucky during a period of bull markets?
Wow what an achievement buddy! You're surely going to be 8 figs soon.
Kys unironically.
anyone smoking this shit for so long is as good as dead desu. You got jewed by the drug dealers iq test failed

>>55022115
Incorrect and you're a shill faggot

>>55022209
You're a real faggot with a small brain.
And I bet you're a Jewish faggot from Israel working for the JIDF

>>55022240
I'm unironically smoking some really good stuff called The Biz.

>>55013733
>>55013567
>I wish I had something insightful to say, but I'm approaching 20 years of green jew and it doesn't get any easier to kick.
What you need to do is get a change of scenery.

I'm nearing 30 and I was smoking half a gram of dabs a day or more. I've been a pretty regular smoker for most of the last decade. This was during school and I passed my courses, high functioning stoner like you guys are talking about. Now I'm back in a different place for the summer and I've been mostly sober. Lil hoot here and there but it's been easier. What you need is to get over the initial few days for the grumpiness to fade (because there ARE detox side effects, you'll be pretty pissed off about random shit) then get over a couple weeks for the habit to fade, and then it gets easier. But the easiest way to get over those couple weeks would be to get a change of scenery and not bring the weed.

You'll be like "man I am sober as FUCK". and that's actually great for you, because that's the change of pace you need. Then a couple days after, feeling sober as FUCK won't feel as weird. You won't even feel like mentioning it.

Then it becomes normal again. You'll be tempted to just have a hoot but your tolerance will still be huge and it will NOT be worth it. Try to wait at least three weeks before you touch ANY weed, but your tolerance won't shoot up, so you can try a hoot once a week type thing to see what the difference is, you'll notice your self get higher off less each time.

You got this my dudes, honestly. Both of you. If you have the money, take a vacation, go on a hike, go axe throwing, go skidooing in the arctic, go to a resort. do whatever you need to do for the change of scenery to get you over the hump and then the rest actually gets easier.

>>55022123
Keep smoking the ganja friend. If you need a crutch there's nothing wrong with having one. I love you.

>>55022387
Love you too buddy, I did some drugs when I was a young kid, I know what real drugs are and weed isn't one of them.
It's simply a medicine to me that allows to me to try and enjoy some parts of being alive.
I just commented because I saw all the negative shit about weed and pro prescriptions ignore the faggots, there's pharma shills who lurk here, unironically the same sacks of shit that made this place unbearable but that's ending, real anons are returning.

>>55022240
what's wrong?
don't like when people point out reality?
weed smokers are absolute losers.
15 years of daily drug use is not something your body will ever fully recover from.
dilate.

>>55013567
You can do it anon. I quit recently too. Still going strong.

>>55022366
>take a vacation

Thanks for the advice senpai I smoke daily and need to quit the green jew as I am apathetic to everything.

Appreciate you man

I smoked for the last 7 years daily, 23 yo now and am slowly leaving it in the past, took some of the most important years of my life and simply ruined it, but It was fun at times. drug culture is unironically a cancer to society and our future generations

>>55018189
>calls me a woman
>talks about journaling his thought and feeling
Just accept you have an addictive personality and avuse uppers pussy. You'll be amazed and what you can accomplish

>>55013567
Weed fucked me for years. I can feel you bro. Tried hundreds of times to quit. Never gave up and made it. There is no big thing about it than simply not doing it. Never. No not just on *not situation* or *state*. If you want to smoke you need to not want to smoke instead. Tell that yourself. And find reasons why. Like i dont want to smoke it will feel worse in the end, i just want to smoke one, but then i dont enjoy being high. If you believe you dont want to smoke youve made it. Always remeber what it took from you, you can even hate it, no problem

>>55018376
>>55022099
>>55022099
Everything in moderation. I smoke a few times a week but stop for 6 months or after about a year of using. Retards will counter and say
>bro it's not addicting you can stop at any point
but not realize the fact that its much harder to accomplish intermittent use of alcohol.
Cannabis doesn't have to be used as a cheap vacation and I think that just because many do abuse it doesn't mean the substance itself is as shitty as others. This is what pisses me off about fuckers like you straw-manning arguments when it comes to weed v. alcohol because your entire argument is just disingenuous.

>>55022592
Silly dumb jew. You're cognitive dissonce is strong.

>>55024547
How have you been smoking since 16? Who is even selling to underage people?

>>55025736
Are you retarded? Or a glownigger

>>55016674
I have been growing shrooms for 4 years now, I once ate 1/4 of enigma.. They didn't help with my addiction. Can't imagine it helping me with Brian fog, I already take corycepts and lions mane. I don't get brain fog though. I get really harsh existential crisis and bad thoughts and hopelessness. Never had trouble with brain fog, brain starts working better form day 1. It's the insomnia which kills me..
>>55017060
Mild bordome and intesne apathy for me. I'm such a lil bitch that's too much for me.. like I said though I also get existential crisis like my dog and grandma getting old..
>>55017414
Failed yesterday, trying again today. Right now I can say I don't want to relpase and I can hold it for most of the day then at some point all of a sudden this wave of feinding comes over me. It's never satisfying getting high. Inhaling the smoke is but being high is never what I think it will be before I relpase. Love the smoke though.. It's something to do..
>>55017508
Trying to find an Adderall connect. Can't get a perscription cuz security clearance
>>55018189
Trust me I don't need caffine if I'm sober. Energy out the ass, can do 3 hour gym session and not be tired at all. On weed it hurts going up 1 flight of stairs..
>>55018252
U inhale butane if u smoke out of a pipe. Also it's not about the thc ingested. The act of smoking itself is addicting. There would be no nicotine addicts if it wasn't avaliable in smokable form. Fried said smoking activates the same parts of ur brain as masturbating..
>>55018332
I'm at 6 figures with weed so I figure without it I will be at 8 since I can't think or read..
>>55019138
Weed is not worse than alcohol. After alcohol I can't go to the gym for the next day. Weed doesn't do that to me.
>>55019153
Okay moshi
>>55020728
Fml dude, years of pain is a loy to handle especially when u have already been living in pain..
>>55020978
I wish I could do that.
>>55022112
All coke has fet in it

>>55022366
My problem is I dotn care about getting more high, I like the act of smoking. Video games suck. Fappign drains my energy(even more than weed). I'm in my late 20s so all my freinds are gone... I need something to do. I can't just keep piling on hobbies...
>>55024255
I don't know how to do it
>>55024679
If I'm being honest with myself I do want to smoke. I don't remeber what it's like being sober so I can't say it'll feel worse in the end cuz I have been feeling the same for 15 year

Isn't growing your own supply the most /biz/ answer?

Just quit faggot. I wasted tons of years. My late teens and early 20s were wasted on that vice. Quit for 7 years. Tried it again. 1st time after those seven years was just like the first time I got high. It was however short lived and never like it again. I tried chasing that feeling back but the high was always tedious. I honestly could not wait until the high was over. I felt like it slowed down my mind. I then realized not being in absolute control sucks. When you're high you truly aren't in full control. I tried to get pizza when I was coming out of it but felt like I did not have complete awareness and my reflexes were slow. I vowed to never drive while high again. I tried edibles. While somewhat enjoyable it fucked with my sleep. Those used to knock me out but after the long period of abstinence, they kept my mind awaken. I stood up until 6 am if I took an edible at night. I said well this sucks. Smoked again with an old friend who lived abroad and visited me months after. I was once again completely awake for the night. It stimulates my brain too much.

Its been more then a year. Literary mostly unpleasant and detrimental in one way or another, despite trying multiple times to enjoy it.

>>55013567
Wrong, just stop jerking off. That is literal it. Stop touching yourself and watching porn.

Learn to grow cannabis

>>55013567
>15 years of day in day out use
Similar journey with the devil's lettuce. I got married a few years ago and promised my wife I would quit. To this day, I am frequently searching for words, forgetting things and I have trouble learning new things. It's partly due to getting old, but I'm sure weed lowered my IQ by at least 10 points.

>>55029249
Should have just smoked cigarettes lmao

I like this thread I also want to quit.
Smoked everyday for 20years
Paused 6 months recently but back at it in full force (like 8 joints everday).
I think it has uses so I don't want to quit for good I want to limit myself to like one a week or every two week because this is just too much now. I need to write a plan

Thx for reading my blog

retired cali exec here, all of your problems are caused by the residual chemicals and/or plant retardants they use to get those plants above 30% th. find an organic, non fucking crossbred to oblivion (<10%th) and you'll have none of these modern problems

>>55013567
same
its refreshing
im sharper
its so much easier to do anything, i just have to will myself to not give a shit, its easy
the dependance is real but once you snap out of it, you have no idea why you were coping so hard for so long

and there is absolutely zero chance it will make you trade better, it will make you emotionally react like a little girl

your parents and teachers were right, they just never explained it in terms of low T

Total fucking bot thread.

>>55013567
I'm going on vacation to Spain in two weeks. I have like 12 days to quit lol. Just gotta man up and don't act like a bitch I guess.

>>55032298
Thanks bot faggot

Lol forget about weed for a sec. Let's talk about how some of you fucks are spending 16 hrs a day on YouTube.

>>55025972
>dotn care about getting more high, I like the act of smoking
Yep, same. That's why for the first few days I was having a decent amount of stress about not getting high, and I was sitting there drawing from my thumb closing my eyes to envision the habit, and I swear to god I still got the same endorphin rush. It took the edge off.

>>55033380
LMAO

>>55013673
reddit spacing is a newfag meme. spacing has always been the only way to format posts. check the catalogue from before reddit existed.

>>55013567
get off edibles and on to vaping
still healthier then smoking. but unlike edibles you can only get so high, there's a natural limit. once you're on that it will be much easier to quit maybe then whatever super high level only edibles can get you

>>55033958
but just do the leaf not oils or concentrates

>>55028657
What does that have to do with someone addicted to weed?